I remember when they were like "there won't be anymore oil" and now they pay you to take a barrel of oil because there is so much. And there were times where I was like "they can't make the iphone any nicer. It's so nice already!" but look how nice the iphone 6 is. Science will always give us everything we need without requiring us to ever put in any effort.
Changes in technology allowed access to already known sources of oil that were at the time uneconomical to reach or refine.
It is different from watching water which is an even easier to track resource disappearing without magically untapped reserves based on technology.
t.
Ummm we found water on Mars.
Checkmate, hammer bro
Why would the hammer brothers want us to run out of water? Is it because they never appear in water levels?
If I became King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, the second thing I'd do after changing my title from Finance Minister to King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, would be to ban the phrase "safety first"
If I became King Economics the first thing I would do is appoint Ronya Viceroy of Responsible Economics.
The second thing I would do would be to build a yacht made of solid gold.
You may want to swap the order of those things.
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why don't we use pebble bed reactors aren't they supposed to be super dope
is it because when you say the words nukelear people start crying and then poop themselves
partly. but hippies are exceedingly ineffective at actually getting shit done (or stopping shit from getting done). They just like to take credit.
The real reason we don't have pebble bed reactors or other energy sources is because:
1) It takes many years and billions in up front spending to build a reactor
2) fossil fuels (esp. coal) are stupid cheap because they don't factor in the cost of the environmental damage they do
3) corporations who produce fossil fuels have lots of puppet republicans to help make sure nobody gets any funny ideas about green energy
2 is a big reason that most environmental pushes are based around average costs benefits over the lifetime of the upgrade nowadays.
I remember when they were like "there won't be anymore oil" and now they pay you to take a barrel of oil because there is so much. And there were times where I was like "they can't make the iphone any nicer. It's so nice already!" but look how nice the iphone 6 is. Science will always give us everything we need without requiring us to ever put in any effort.
SKFM the secret there is that actually we put in tons of effort to make those things happen.
Science did it. I didn't change anything. I drive my car just like I used to and the iphone in my pocket it better than the one before it, and I didn't do anything!
Yeah, because we're fucking carrying this team!
Scrublords.
What's this "we" business, Mister?
I'm still a scientist, you can't tell me I'm not
Spend those porn dollars to fund your own science. Possibly for evil.
Also: You're a chicagoan right? Are you free for a beer tomorrow? I'll be somewhere in the loop* and probably pretty jet lagged.
*I have no idea if this is usual information.
Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
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CindersWhose sails were black when it was windyRegistered Userregular
If I became King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, the second thing I'd do after changing my title from Finance Minister to King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, would be to ban the phrase "safety first"
If I became King Economics the first thing I would do is appoint Ronya Viceroy of Responsible Economics.
The second thing I would do would be to build a yacht made of solid gold.
You may want to swap the order of those things.
Just gotta distract him with a tennis ball for a bit
anyway that's why I moved to the pacific northwest because water literally falls from the sky here
it's like printing money
When I first moved here it was right when someone had just peed in one of the reservoirs and they had to drain it. They had some official on the news and he pretty much was like "eh its a ton of water but lol it's not like we're california. We're fine."
If I became King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, the second thing I'd do after changing my title from Finance Minister to King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, would be to ban the phrase "safety first"
If I became King Economics the first thing I would do is appoint Ronya Viceroy of Responsible Economics.
The second thing I would do would be to build a yacht made of solid gold.
You may want to swap the order of those things.
I think he'd be cool with it. If nothing else, it would get me out of the Office of Economy.
Plus, if I did the appointment first, who would be there to facepalm?
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CindersWhose sails were black when it was windyRegistered Userregular
If I became King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, the second thing I'd do after changing my title from Finance Minister to King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, would be to ban the phrase "safety first"
If I became King Economics the first thing I would do is appoint Ronya Viceroy of Responsible Economics.
The second thing I would do would be to build a yacht made of solid gold.
You may want to swap the order of those things.
No, he needs to appoint Ronya first. If he waits till after the yacht, he'll be on the bottom of the sea before he appoints anyone!
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It's both, really. But California has a very irresponsible system of government and ag usage in exchange for the short term dolla dolla bills.
This is the point where a legitimate Federal intervention should be undertaken, though. It'd be smart to have a nationwide agriculture rebalance to deal with the new climate realities we're facing.
why not just ask science to fix it for us and change nothing?
My Lord and Savior Elon Musk has made a good point on this subject.
It's true, we're not gonna run out of oil for a long, long time. But ultimately, it is a non-renewable resource, so we'll have to become independent of it some day. We know that, so we're always making strides towards various sources of renewable energy.
He argues that we should be more insistent on perfecting our renewable energy sources, because right now all we're doing is conducting the world's dumbest science experiment. We can't rely on oil forever, so instead what we're doing is "Hey, I wonder what happens if we pump billions of tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere?"
I mean, we know that can't possibly lead anywhere good.
Now, you're right that, if things got bad enough, there's a very good chance we'd science our way out of it, but man we could save a LOT of money if we didn't have to. You like money, don't you, SKFM?
I'm as confident as you that we can science our way out of basically anything. I believe that almost 100% unironically. But I also know that we'd only do it when things got really, really bad, and I know it would cost a LOT of money.
I'm not an environmentalist because I like fluffy bunnies - I'm an environmentalist because I love efficiency and sustainability.
Sustainability gets me rock hard, frankly.
And that's why we're all gonna watch a rocket do a flip later this afternoon and come back to the goddamn planet so it can be used again, because goddamn that's so efficient that it drives me wild.
But no one is going to use his electric cars until they work so well and so conveniently that it doesn't feel like a change. That's the magic of science. People come up with cool new solutions that would require people to adapt their behavior, but by the time they are mainstream, they slot into our lives basically with no effort at all.
SKFM, I totally agree with you! That's definitely the goal for any more sustainable / efficient alternative to all the things we're currently using / doing / whatever.
All I'm saying is, we can either do this the more direct way (funding sciences right now), or the more indirect way (buying inefficient products from a corporation who slowly make their product more efficient because their inefficient product is unsustainable).
Both ways totally work, in truth. But there's a greater chance of there not being horrible environmental catastrophes if we do the former, rather than the latter.
I mean, there's probably gonna be a lot of horrible environmental catastrophes either way, but you want to arrange them in such a way that your government doesn't feel compelled to spend your tax money on sciencing a solution to the problem.
Science the solution now for a fraction of the price of sciencing the solution in a hurry later, is my point.
Cash rules everything around me, SKFM. I'm on your side.
We should make something like a Patreon but for science, where the general public can directly fund research projects as an alternative to the normal grant process.
Guys, this might legitimately be a good idea.
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lol for real though how stupid is california water is the most plentiful thing on earth just go out there and get some instead of talking about kale salads and hot yoga or w/e it is that californians do
anyway that's why I moved to the pacific northwest because water literally falls from the sky here
it's like printing money
When I first moved here it was right when someone had just peed in one of the reservoirs and they had to drain it. They had some official on the news and he pretty much was like "eh its a ton of water but lol it's not like we're california. We're fine."
PNW throwin shade.
huh? I couldn't hear you over the rushing sound of me pouring all of this water onto the ground
If I became King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, the second thing I'd do after changing my title from Finance Minister to King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, would be to ban the phrase "safety first"
If I became King Economics the first thing I would do is appoint Ronya Viceroy of Responsible Economics.
The second thing I would do would be to build a yacht made of solid gold.
I would suggest launching it over the Mariana trench.
You'll get a lot more enjoyment out of it.
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If I became King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, the second thing I'd do after changing my title from Finance Minister to King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, would be to ban the phrase "safety first"
If I became King Economics the first thing I would do is appoint Ronya Viceroy of Responsible Economics.
The second thing I would do would be to build a yacht made of solid gold.
You may want to swap the order of those things.
No, he needs to appoint Ronya first. If he waits till after the yacht, he'll be on the bottom of the sea before he appoints anyone!
You could totally make a gold yacht which floated.
Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
We should make something like a Patreon but for science, where the general public can directly fund research projects as an alternative to the normal grant process.
Guys, this might legitimately be a good idea.
Yeah but you know once the internet gets its hands on it, we'll largely be funding stuff from Star Wars and new ways to watch porn.
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lol for real though how stupid is california water is the most plentiful thing on earth just go out there and get some instead of talking about kale salads and hot yoga or w/e it is that californians do
I heard they don't even have shoes in California. They just wear sandals.
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anyway that's why I moved to the pacific northwest because water literally falls from the sky here
it's like printing money
When I first moved here it was right when someone had just peed in one of the reservoirs and they had to drain it. They had some official on the news and he pretty much was like "eh its a ton of water but lol it's not like we're california. We're fine."
PNW throwin shade.
huh? I couldn't hear you over the rushing sound of me pouring all of this water onto the ground
My current plan is to fill my suitcases with water and move back to Mad Max desert LA.
I will be their king.
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We should make something like a Patreon but for science, where the general public can directly fund research projects as an alternative to the normal grant process.
Guys, this might legitimately be a good idea.
Only if you really enjoy being disappointed by your fellow man.
I remember when they were like "there won't be anymore oil" and now they pay you to take a barrel of oil because there is so much. And there were times where I was like "they can't make the iphone any nicer. It's so nice already!" but look how nice the iphone 6 is. Science will always give us everything we need without requiring us to ever put in any effort.
SKFM the secret there is that actually we put in tons of effort to make those things happen.
Science did it. I didn't change anything. I drive my car just like I used to and the iphone in my pocket it better than the one before it, and I didn't do anything!
Yeah, because we're fucking carrying this team!
Scrublords.
What's this "we" business, Mister?
I'm still a scientist, you can't tell me I'm not
Spend those porn dollars to fund your own science. Possibly for evil.
Also: You're a chicagoan right? Are you free for a beer tomorrow? I'll be somewhere in the loop* and probably pretty jet lagged.
*I have no idea if this is usual information.
Seriously? That could actually happen, if I'm free! What time do you get in? If you want you can PM me your number.
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If I became King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, the second thing I'd do after changing my title from Finance Minister to King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, would be to ban the phrase "safety first"
If I became King Economics the first thing I would do is appoint Ronya Viceroy of Responsible Economics.
The second thing I would do would be to build a yacht made of solid gold.
You may want to swap the order of those things.
No, he needs to appoint Ronya first. If he waits till after the yacht, he'll be on the bottom of the sea before he appoints anyone!
You could totally make a gold yacht which floated.
That yacht, by definition, would have less gold that it could, so it would be inadequate.
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We should make something like a Patreon but for science, where the general public can directly fund research projects as an alternative to the normal grant process.
Guys, this might legitimately be a good idea.
Yeah but you know once the internet gets its hands on it, we'll largely be funding stuff from Star Wars and new ways to watch porn.
We should make something like a Patreon but for science, where the general public can directly fund research projects as an alternative to the normal grant process.
Guys, this might legitimately be a good idea.
only research into genes named after pokemon and sonic will be funded
lol for real though how stupid is california water is the most plentiful thing on earth just go out there and get some instead of talking about kale salads and hot yoga or w/e it is that californians do
I heard they don't even have shoes in California. They just wear sandals.
lol what
maybe if you had shoes instead of sandals you could get jobs and then just be able to buy water instead of waiting for it to fall out of the sky
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spacekungfumanPoor and minority-filledRegistered User, __BANNED USERSregular
We should make something like a Patreon but for science, where the general public can directly fund research projects as an alternative to the normal grant process.
Guys, this might legitimately be a good idea.
Yeah but you know once the internet gets its hands on it, we'll largely be funding stuff from Star Wars and new ways to watch porn.
Why not both? The first thing funded will be the hologram projector R2D2 has. The next thing funded will be slave leia bikinis.
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I remember when they were like "there won't be anymore oil" and now they pay you to take a barrel of oil because there is so much. And there were times where I was like "they can't make the iphone any nicer. It's so nice already!" but look how nice the iphone 6 is. Science will always give us everything we need without requiring us to ever put in any effort.
SKFM the secret there is that actually we put in tons of effort to make those things happen.
Science did it. I didn't change anything. I drive my car just like I used to and the iphone in my pocket it better than the one before it, and I didn't do anything!
Yeah, because we're fucking carrying this team!
Scrublords.
What's this "we" business, Mister?
I'm still a scientist, you can't tell me I'm not
Spend those porn dollars to fund your own science. Possibly for evil.
Also: You're a chicagoan right? Are you free for a beer tomorrow? I'll be somewhere in the loop* and probably pretty jet lagged.
*I have no idea if this is usual information.
Seriously? That could actually happen, if I'm free! What time do you get in? If you want you can PM me your number.
I land about 5pm. Are there others? Bring those too.
Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
If I became King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, the second thing I'd do after changing my title from Finance Minister to King Economics, Moneyman Supremus, would be to ban the phrase "safety first"
If I became King Economics the first thing I would do is appoint Ronya Viceroy of Responsible Economics.
The second thing I would do would be to build a yacht made of solid gold.
You may want to swap the order of those things.
No, he needs to appoint Ronya first. If he waits till after the yacht, he'll be on the bottom of the sea before he appoints anyone!
You could totally make a gold yacht which floated.
You can make yachts out of concrete
They tend to make people nervous but there is a core of diehards that insist this is a superior shipbuilding method to other materials
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CindersWhose sails were black when it was windyRegistered Userregular
I remember when they were like "there won't be anymore oil" and now they pay you to take a barrel of oil because there is so much. And there were times where I was like "they can't make the iphone any nicer. It's so nice already!" but look how nice the iphone 6 is. Science will always give us everything we need without requiring us to ever put in any effort.
SKFM the secret there is that actually we put in tons of effort to make those things happen.
Science did it. I didn't change anything. I drive my car just like I used to and the iphone in my pocket it better than the one before it, and I didn't do anything!
Yeah, because we're fucking carrying this team!
Scrublords.
What's this "we" business, Mister?
I'm still a scientist, you can't tell me I'm not
Spend those porn dollars to fund your own science. Possibly for evil.
Also: You're a chicagoan right? Are you free for a beer tomorrow? I'll be somewhere in the loop* and probably pretty jet lagged.
*I have no idea if this is usual information.
Seriously? That could actually happen, if I'm free! What time do you get in? If you want you can PM me your number.
I land about 5pm. Are there others? Bring those too.
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1) ???
2) move vegas to mars
3) thanks science!
Why would the hammer brothers want us to run out of water? Is it because they never appear in water levels?
You may want to swap the order of those things.
2 is a big reason that most environmental pushes are based around average costs benefits over the lifetime of the upgrade nowadays.
I'm fucked.
Also: You're a chicagoan right? Are you free for a beer tomorrow? I'll be somewhere in the loop* and probably pretty jet lagged.
*I have no idea if this is usual information.
Just gotta distract him with a tennis ball for a bit
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@skippydumptruck hue hue hue
Maybe science could find a way to make it a word though.
When I first moved here it was right when someone had just peed in one of the reservoirs and they had to drain it. They had some official on the news and he pretty much was like "eh its a ton of water but lol it's not like we're california. We're fine."
PNW throwin shade.
I think he'd be cool with it. If nothing else, it would get me out of the Office of Economy.
Plus, if I did the appointment first, who would be there to facepalm?
That is so tist
No, he needs to appoint Ronya first. If he waits till after the yacht, he'll be on the bottom of the sea before he appoints anyone!
SKFM, I totally agree with you! That's definitely the goal for any more sustainable / efficient alternative to all the things we're currently using / doing / whatever.
All I'm saying is, we can either do this the more direct way (funding sciences right now), or the more indirect way (buying inefficient products from a corporation who slowly make their product more efficient because their inefficient product is unsustainable).
Both ways totally work, in truth. But there's a greater chance of there not being horrible environmental catastrophes if we do the former, rather than the latter.
I mean, there's probably gonna be a lot of horrible environmental catastrophes either way, but you want to arrange them in such a way that your government doesn't feel compelled to spend your tax money on sciencing a solution to the problem.
Science the solution now for a fraction of the price of sciencing the solution in a hurry later, is my point.
Cash rules everything around me, SKFM. I'm on your side.
Guys, this might legitimately be a good idea.
*looks at horns*
*checks skin for any greyness*
free of homestuck influence, this is clear
huh? I couldn't hear you over the rushing sound of me pouring all of this water onto the ground
I would suggest launching it over the Mariana trench.
You'll get a lot more enjoyment out of it.
Yeah but you know once the internet gets its hands on it, we'll largely be funding stuff from Star Wars and new ways to watch porn.
I heard they don't even have shoes in California. They just wear sandals.
I wish I still had that image edit of you talking about the local bar applebees
My current plan is to fill my suitcases with water and move back to Mad Max desert LA.
I will be their king.
Only if you really enjoy being disappointed by your fellow man.
Seriously? That could actually happen, if I'm free! What time do you get in? If you want you can PM me your number.
That yacht, by definition, would have less gold that it could, so it would be inadequate.
maybe i will finally switch to this iphone 5s i have so i can play it
i doubt my 4s would do well
I'll win, just like Tippecanoe (and Tyler, too).
I don't see the problem here.
only research into genes named after pokemon and sonic will be funded
lol what
maybe if you had shoes instead of sandals you could get jobs and then just be able to buy water instead of waiting for it to fall out of the sky
Why not both? The first thing funded will be the hologram projector R2D2 has. The next thing funded will be slave leia bikinis.
I land about 5pm. Are there others? Bring those too.
You can make yachts out of concrete
They tend to make people nervous but there is a core of diehards that insist this is a superior shipbuilding method to other materials
Fly me there too
When you get into a fist fight and you punch someone, would you call your attack a "Canuckle sandwich"?