Overwhelmingly negative is a huge exaggeration. They're pretty mixed, but right now Rotten Tomatoes top critics are at 75% fresh, compared to 81% for season 1.
Tons of people are going to hate season 2 of this show purely because it doesn't feel like season 1. Like, even if season 2 is worse by a small margin compared to season 1, people are going to act like it's complete garbage because season 1 was just so good and had an atmosphere to it that they won't be able to recapture.
Some of the negative reviews I've seen said it's too by the numbers, the characters are too stereotypical, etc., but we'll see.
I've said all along I think season 2 is going to feel more at home with Pizzolatto's novel Galveston than it does with True Detective season 1.
Spends a bit too much time highlighting how Pizzolatto is an asshole, but I have a suspicion that the observations regarding the male leads and their delivery is likely accurate. Nevertheless, the review is relatively positive.
Holy crap, I totally forgot Fukunaga never thanked Pizzolatto at the Emmy's. I guess there was some friction there.
Newspaper critics seemed much more positive towards the screeners, though everyone seems to agree that Vaughn appears torn between adhering to the hyperdramatic script/direction and trying to impose some traditional Vince Vaughn snark onto the character. Lots of praise for McAdams and Farrell though.
The music is outstanding. Good acting performances so far. Feels a bit like Chinatown for the modern age.
I'm not sure but i suspect the missing girl is the bartender in the dive where Frank and Ray meet.
Whatever Black Mountain is, I'd bet it's a big part of the later half of the season.
The only thing I didn't like was it seemed pretty damned convenient that that particular dude found the body.
I don't see how. He had no connection to the other characters at that point did he? That's how he's brought into the story.
More convenient was the one-day family reunion between two different duties (the bust and the foreclosure service).
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Shit, you're right.
I saw someone say the show starts in the last 5 minutes, and the first episode is all the backstory that would normally get uncovered later in the season.
So I didn't even think about how all the obvious main characters get brought into the story.
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This is such a massive downgrade in every way from S1. Not only is the story so far just kind of cliche, but the dialogue is heavy handed, the cinematography bland, the direction not super great. I wasn't expecting the same quality, but it's not even in the same ballpark. At the very least I thought they would carry over the same sense of cinematography, even if they couldn't get Arkapaw again, but they really didn't. It's so painfully serviceable.
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Maybe I misheard it, but I think
the dead dude is the guy Vince Vaughn was expecting to turn up at the event to give the sales pitch
Cluck cluck, gibber gibber, my old man's a mushroom, etc.
When I first started watching season 1 I had the same reaction as this years's pilot, I still have some faith it's going to pick up.
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I'm really hoping as more episodes roll out, this thread can get full of speculation. I really enjoyed that social aspect of season one. I dug this episode though!
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I wanna listen to that lera lynn song over and over why isn't it anywhere yet
I'm really hoping as more episodes roll out, this thread can get full of speculation. I really enjoyed that social aspect of season one. I dug this episode though!
I'm hoping for another glimps of something super natural.
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I'm really hoping as more episodes roll out, this thread can get full of speculation. I really enjoyed that social aspect of season one. I dug this episode though!
I'm hoping for another glimps of something super natural.
I think it's been confirmed that's not gonna happen
I'm really hoping as more episodes roll out, this thread can get full of speculation. I really enjoyed that social aspect of season one. I dug this episode though!
I'm hoping for another glimps of something super natural.
I think it's been confirmed that's not gonna happen
I dunno, Rachel McAdams without pants is otherworldly.
I'm really hoping as more episodes roll out, this thread can get full of speculation. I really enjoyed that social aspect of season one. I dug this episode though!
I'm hoping for another glimps of something super natural.
I think it's been confirmed that's not gonna happen
I dunno, Rachel McAdams without pants is otherworldly.
The speculation will be about just what it was that freaked out that guy in the bedroom.
Also, Farrell was easily the high point of the premiere.
"I'll buttfuck your father next to your Mom's headless corpse on this lawn" is such a fucking insane line, yet he sold it. There were a lot of clunkers, though.
I'm really hoping as more episodes roll out, this thread can get full of speculation. I really enjoyed that social aspect of season one. I dug this episode though!
I'm hoping for another glimps of something super natural.
I think it's been confirmed that's not gonna happen
I dunno, Rachel McAdams without pants is otherworldly.
The speculation will be about just what it was that freaked out that guy in the bedroom.
Butt stuff. It's always butt stuff that freaks out the squares.
That reminds me, is the bike cop supposed to be gay? Was that the takeaway I was meant to get during his long shower, or is he damaged by the war and unable to perform?
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I believe the second, based on the blue pill that he took. Looks like he's also an adrenaline junky, probably based on same trauma.
Also,
based on the picture at the big meeting, dead guy is the City Manager. Guessing his death has to do with the proposed land acquisitions, either as a stumbling block or a guy who knew too much.
Cluck cluck, gibber gibber, my old man's a mushroom, etc.
I'm really hoping as more episodes roll out, this thread can get full of speculation. I really enjoyed that social aspect of season one. I dug this episode though!
I'm hoping for another glimps of something super natural.
I think it's been confirmed that's not gonna happen
Aw, I need it to be something more than just a cop show. I loved all the theories and speculations of everyone on the boards.
@Atlas in Chains He was taking blue pills followed by a long shower, assumed to be Viagra pill and taking a shower to let it kick in. So yeah, something's up with that dude.
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Yea, the ID of the corpse said "Caspere" which is the Casper guy the moneyed interest was looking forward to meeting at the dinner with Vaughn - right before vaughn shattered his glass against the wall.
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
One of the stranger things about this first episode was its expression of time, making it seem like we were either watching a single day that would loop back upon itself or we were watching different moments in a week that were spliced into Vince Vaughn's real estate party (which was the present tense). There was an undertone of surrealism that makes that seem intentional (the pan to a bird mask in the town car, the miniature naked woman in a bowl of milk), but editing/sequencing was more awkward than interesting, like the random closeups of the singer in the bar during Vaughn and Farrell's conversation.
I'm really hoping as more episodes roll out, this thread can get full of speculation. I really enjoyed that social aspect of season one. I dug this episode though!
I'm hoping for another glimps of something super natural.
I think it's been confirmed that's not gonna happen
Aw, I need it to be something more than just a cop show. I loved all the theories and speculations of everyone on the boards.
@Atlas in Chains He was taking blue pills followed by a long shower, assumed to be Viagra pill and taking a shower to let it kick in. So yeah, something's up with that dude.
Thankfully I don't have that hangup. When I saw S1E1, I described it to people I knew as the "crime show that all other crime shows wish they could be". Maybe I'm easily satisfied, but that's enough for me.
Cluck cluck, gibber gibber, my old man's a mushroom, etc.
I think I enjoyed the premier. Was it just that I was really tired or was the dialog...weird? Like I found it really challenging to parse what was being said in a number of scenes (mostly ones involving Vince Vaughn, though only sometimes things he was actually saying). The phrasing seemed weird and it felt like a number of people were just sort of mumbling their way through their lines.
As for supernatural tie-ins:
There may not be a trip to Lost Carcosa this season but in one episode we've got two main characters connected to cults (or at least I assume motorcycle dude is in a cult or a paramilitary thing or something), the reporter (I think?) whose house is full of weird and a city manager dead of uncertain causes with some really bizarre wounds and staging of the body. At the very least it's not going to be a normal cop drama.
I think I enjoyed the premier. Was it just that I was really tired or was the dialog...weird? Like I found it really challenging to parse what was being said in a number of scenes (mostly ones involving Vince Vaughn, though only sometimes things he was actually saying). The phrasing seemed weird and it felt like a number of people were just sort of mumbling their way through their lines.
In the case of Bike Cop's character, the mumbling seemed a part of the character. Otherwise, I didn't find enunciation to be poor, but there was some weird "is this how you want me to say this line?" type of emphasis. Like how McAdams blurted out "prick" at the end of her conversation with her dad.
I think I enjoyed the premier. Was it just that I was really tired or was the dialog...weird? Like I found it really challenging to parse what was being said in a number of scenes (mostly ones involving Vince Vaughn, though only sometimes things he was actually saying). The phrasing seemed weird and it felt like a number of people were just sort of mumbling their way through their lines.
In the case of Bike Cop's character, the mumbling seemed a part of the character. Otherwise, I didn't find enunciation to be poor, but there was some weird "is this how you want me to say this line?" type of emphasis. Like how McAdams blurted out "prick" at the end of her conversation with her dad.
I think it was, for me, Bike Cop, Vaughn's wife, and the guy he was trying to get money out of one-on-one. And then other stuff like the prick line where words just seemed out of place. But I guess it might just be the actors getting used to the writing.
Speaking of Bike Cop:
What was the deal with him being suspended? I guess the woman he pulled over accused him of soliciting a BJ from her in exchange for letting her go? But based on his viagra thing I assume he did not, in fact, get a BJ from her. Which implies that he didn't just let her go. So then why would anyone believe her? And she had an ankle monitor, so how was her parole officer not already alerted that she was out cruising around? Unless she was during her 'allowed out of the house to go to work' hours, I guess? It all seemed rather weird. Maybe I just have a less faith in the willingness of law enforcement agencies to follow up on citizens' complaints about officers' behavior than the writers do.
This looks much closer to Terriers or Chinatown than S1. Not bad but definitely seems like a more standard kind of cop story, but maybe thats just because of the setting.
What was the deal with him being suspended? I guess the woman he pulled over accused him of soliciting a BJ from her in exchange for letting her go? But based on his viagra thing I assume he did not, in fact, get a BJ from her. Which implies that he didn't just let her go. So then why would anyone believe her? And she had an ankle monitor, so how was her parole officer not already alerted that she was out cruising around? Unless she was during her 'allowed out of the house to go to work' hours, I guess? It all seemed rather weird. Maybe I just have a less faith in the willingness of law enforcement agencies to follow up on citizens' complaints about officers' behavior than the writers do.
I think that was supposed to just be another example of corruption:
It was slightly obfuscated by Bike Cop's "blah blah Black Mountain", but I think there some mention of the woman being someone marginally important in Hollywood, with the implication being that there had been a bribe somewhere up the chain.
I think the idea is that she accused him of solicitation when he took her in (because he turned down hers). Depending how much money she has behind her, and what issues he has with the higher ups, that could totally work.
Also, we going open spoilers in here? Thought we did last year.
I think the idea is that she accused him of solicitation when he took her in (because he turned down hers). Depending how much money she has behind her, and what issues he has with the higher ups, that could totally work.
Also, we going open spoilers in here? Thought we did last year.
thread title says current episode spoilers unmarked so yeah
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Tons of people are going to hate season 2 of this show purely because it doesn't feel like season 1. Like, even if season 2 is worse by a small margin compared to season 1, people are going to act like it's complete garbage because season 1 was just so good and had an atmosphere to it that they won't be able to recapture.
Some of the negative reviews I've seen said it's too by the numbers, the characters are too stereotypical, etc., but we'll see.
I've said all along I think season 2 is going to feel more at home with Pizzolatto's novel Galveston than it does with True Detective season 1.
Holy crap, I totally forgot Fukunaga never thanked Pizzolatto at the Emmy's. I guess there was some friction there.
Newspaper critics seemed much more positive towards the screeners, though everyone seems to agree that Vaughn appears torn between adhering to the hyperdramatic script/direction and trying to impose some traditional Vince Vaughn snark onto the character. Lots of praise for McAdams and Farrell though.
The music is outstanding. Good acting performances so far. Feels a bit like Chinatown for the modern age.
I'm not sure but i suspect the missing girl is the bartender in the dive where Frank and Ray meet.
Whatever Black Mountain is, I'd bet it's a big part of the later half of the season.
The only thing I didn't like was it seemed pretty damned convenient that that particular dude found the body.
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But thumbs up for using Leonard Cohen for the opening credits.
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she is neat
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I don't see how. He had no connection to the other characters at that point did he? That's how he's brought into the story.
More convenient was the one-day family reunion between two different duties (the bust and the foreclosure service).
I saw someone say the show starts in the last 5 minutes, and the first episode is all the backstory that would normally get uncovered later in the season.
So I didn't even think about how all the obvious main characters get brought into the story.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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The rest are scheduled to drop in August.
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that's too far I want it now
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I'm hoping for another glimps of something super natural.
I think it's been confirmed that's not gonna happen
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I dunno, Rachel McAdams without pants is otherworldly.
The speculation will be about just what it was that freaked out that guy in the bedroom.
Butt stuff. It's always butt stuff that freaks out the squares.
That reminds me, is the bike cop supposed to be gay? Was that the takeaway I was meant to get during his long shower, or is he damaged by the war and unable to perform?
Also,
Aw, I need it to be something more than just a cop show. I loved all the theories and speculations of everyone on the boards.
@Atlas in Chains He was taking blue pills followed by a long shower, assumed to be Viagra pill and taking a shower to let it kick in. So yeah, something's up with that dude.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
From the iconography in the intro sequence to
I think we may get a sense of surreal dread, without them putting a name to it.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Thankfully I don't have that hangup. When I saw S1E1, I described it to people I knew as the "crime show that all other crime shows wish they could be". Maybe I'm easily satisfied, but that's enough for me.
As for supernatural tie-ins:
In the case of Bike Cop's character, the mumbling seemed a part of the character. Otherwise, I didn't find enunciation to be poor, but there was some weird "is this how you want me to say this line?" type of emphasis. Like how McAdams blurted out "prick" at the end of her conversation with her dad.
Caspere's
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
I think it's his 5-head and that dead-eyed look he's got.
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I think it was, for me, Bike Cop, Vaughn's wife, and the guy he was trying to get money out of one-on-one. And then other stuff like the prick line where words just seemed out of place. But I guess it might just be the actors getting used to the writing.
Speaking of Bike Cop:
I think that was supposed to just be another example of corruption:
Also, we going open spoilers in here? Thought we did last year.
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