Popular media have suggested that zombies tend to be attracted to noise or otherwise follow other zombies, which means that they will accumulate into hordes over time in addition to wandering around mindlessly.
All the better to napalm, then.
That puts us back in traditional military response territory. Carpet bombing a huge herd of zombies would be pretty effective.
I suppose tactics really depend on where you're living. Here in central Illinois fly over country, there isn't much topography to speak of, just farm land and woods.
I guess digging the whole trench would be back breaking. Especially with my crappy back.
I'm sticking with the shopping cart ring though. (there is a walmart right on the edge of town across from a huge empty space of farm land. Thats probably why its stuck in my head)
However, trying to come up with a plan for, say...Houston (where i'm from) is a much different problem.....although ammo would be more prevalent.
the big problem of fortifying in a rural area is, sure..the zombie pop is low now
But eventually you are going to have a huge as fuck herd wander in and you'll be unprepared to deal with it and might even respond to it lazily because you expect just another small group wandering by.
I cant for the life of me remember the word that describes this.. Where your guard is low cause you are not expecting whats to come to be as bad as it is.. This is driving me mad.
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the big problem of fortifying in a rural area is, sure..the zombie pop is low now
But eventually you are going to have a huge as fuck herd wander in and you'll be unprepared to deal with it and might even respond to it lazily because you expect just another small group wandering by.
I cant for the life of me remember the word that describes this.. Where your guard is low cause you are not expecting whats to come to be as bad as it is.. This is driving me mad.
the big problem of fortifying in a rural area is, sure..the zombie pop is low now
But eventually you are going to have a huge as fuck herd wander in and you'll be unprepared to deal with it and might even respond to it lazily because you expect just another small group wandering by.
I cant for the life of me remember the word that describes this.. Where your guard is low cause you are not expecting whats to come to be as bad as it is.. This is driving me mad.
the big problem of fortifying in a rural area is, sure..the zombie pop is low now
But eventually you are going to have a huge as fuck herd wander in and you'll be unprepared to deal with it and might even respond to it lazily because you expect just another small group wandering by.
I cant for the life of me remember the word that describes this.. Where your guard is low cause you are not expecting whats to come to be as bad as it is.. This is driving me mad.
Why would a herd wander in? These are mindless shamblers. Theres no mechanism for a herd to form (especially without tearing itself up)
the big problem of fortifying in a rural area is, sure..the zombie pop is low now
But eventually you are going to have a huge as fuck herd wander in and you'll be unprepared to deal with it and might even respond to it lazily because you expect just another small group wandering by.
I cant for the life of me remember the word that describes this.. Where your guard is low cause you are not expecting whats to come to be as bad as it is.. This is driving me mad.
Why would a herd wander in? These are mindless shamblers. Theres no mechanism for a herd to form (especially without tearing itself up)
If you accept that random movement will result in, essentially, diffusion of zombies, and also that zombies react somewhat to stimuli like sound, it makes sense that they will herd and that those herds will eventually either become evenly distributed throughout the traversable land mass or will become very few giant herds that sweep over giant swaths of land.
I think the issue is one I already remarked on in one of my previous posts: natural obstacles. Every lake, every mountain, every open hole or cave will have zombies being taken out of the equation as they become trapped. Grand Canyon alone would probably be the end of a couple hundred thousand at the very least.
My "plan" is likely deeply stupid, but whatever, I'll toss it out there: the Internet is designed to be robust in the face of failures (as much as it seems not to be sometimes), and I suspect it would take a short while before all the redundancies built into the infrastructure failed. According to the parameters given, the power is still on for a short amount of time, and I suspect that it will take some time for the zombification to propagate. Therefore, for at least a few hours as the situation begins, I'd be on my computer looking for a web site that still works, possibly seeing if I could still register a new profile on Facebook to look for the "Everyone Is Turning Into Zombies, But I'm Still Alive" Facebook group and attempt to establish contact and possibly a meeting place.
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My "plan" is likely deeply stupid, but whatever, I'll toss it out there: the Internet is designed to be robust in the face of failures (as much as it seems not to be sometimes), and I suspect it would take a short while before all the redundancies built into the infrastructure failed. According to the parameters given, the power is still on for a short amount of time, and I suspect that it will take some time for the zombification to propagate. Therefore, for at least a few hours as the situation begins, I'd be on my computer looking for a web site that still works, possibly seeing if I could still register a new profile on Facebook to look for the "Everyone Is Turning Into Zombies, But I'm Still Alive" Facebook group and attempt to establish contact and possibly a meeting place.
My "plan" is likely deeply stupid, but whatever, I'll toss it out there: the Internet is designed to be robust in the face of failures (as much as it seems not to be sometimes), and I suspect it would take a short while before all the redundancies built into the infrastructure failed. According to the parameters given, the power is still on for a short amount of time, and I suspect that it will take some time for the zombification to propagate. Therefore, for at least a few hours as the situation begins, I'd be on my computer looking for a web site that still works, possibly seeing if I could still register a new profile on Facebook to look for the "Everyone Is Turning Into Zombies, But I'm Still Alive" Facebook group and attempt to establish contact and possibly a meeting place.
Alternatively, download all the porn you can for future use.
I wonder if crows could eat a mashed zombie. If they can I am betting that in no time at all they will have figured out how to lure zombies off cliffs. Even if they can't they might do it anyway because it's funny.
I wonder if crows could eat a mashed zombie. If they can I am betting that in no time at all they will have figured out how to lure zombies off cliffs. Even if they can't they might do it anyway because it's funny.
This is..a very alluring train of thought. Corvids are amazingly, astoundingly intelligent, and if they figure out they can eat the walking corpses..
THey could very well lure herds to living humans to let the humans kill them, or off cliffs as you suggested, though there aren't many cliffs comparatively..
Post zombie apocalypse internet would be a ham radio and some solar panels
I don't want to imagine what Ham Radio porn would be like.
"Okay, we're looking at a chick with really big tits. She's leaning forward and wiggling. Also, she totally is Anne Hathaway, it's not just Anne Hathaway's head on someone else's body."
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Post zombie apocalypse internet would be a ham radio and some solar panels
I don't want to imagine what Ham Radio porn would be like.
"Love Machine, this is Big Momma, over.""
"Big Momma, this is Love Machine, go ahead."
"I am wearing red panties right now. - Break - Now I am taking them off. - Break - I'm only in my socks, over."
(continues)
Post zombie apocalypse internet would be a ham radio and some solar panels
I don't want to imagine what Ham Radio porn would be like.
"Okay, we're looking at a chick with really big tits. She's leaning forward and wiggling. Also, she totally is Anne Hathaway, it's not just Anne Hathaway's head on someone else's body."
I kind of imagined like an old timey radio adventure show, like from Up.
I live in a city on a major river, so I would stick near that as a water source. I'm not a hunter, but I've fired a bow and a gun and been reasonably decent with each, so if I could get some supplies from a local gun shop, I could probably survive for a bit off that. There are also a fair amount of crops around here, depending on time of year that I could take advantage of short term.
Longer term, I have family who are of a hunting and survival sort a few hundred miles north. I'd probably try to get up there and see if any of them survived. It's all mountainous forest area, not as person dense, so probably promising.
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I wonder if crows could eat a mashed zombie. If they can I am betting that in no time at all they will have figured out how to lure zombies off cliffs. Even if they can't they might do it anyway because it's funny.
This is..a very alluring train of thought. Corvids are amazingly, astoundingly intelligent, and if they figure out they can eat the walking corpses..
THey could very well lure herds to living humans to let the humans kill them, or off cliffs as you suggested, though there aren't many cliffs comparatively..
I would not want to 'survive' an apocalypse that kills 99% of society and presumably will cause everything to fall apart due to lack of maintenance if nothing else.
I'm not social at all, and I'd probably still go so nuts that'd I'd eventually die trying in futility to make friends with the zombies.
Step 1) Raid the local motorcycle shop. There is one within a mile. Deck myself out in layered biker gear. Something with removable inner layers depending on the temperature and weather. Very tough, very durable, and fairly comfortable, considering the level of protection it gives.
1a) After getting the biker gear, disassemble my tent poles, and bind them to the forearms of the jacket to use as arm guards. These are lightweight, very sturdy and should be near impossible for a zombie to bite through.
Step 2) Hit up the local archery club (about 10 miles away) for extra bows, string and arrows if they are available. Since we're talking an absolute minuscule fraction of all people surviving, the odds of other survivors knowing of the club, being proficient enough to use the weaponry, and being close enough to beat me there are very, very small. This will give me a good stock of high quality weapons, ammo and tools to maintain them. This would also probably become my new base of operations, since it is on the second floor with a single exterior staircase access that I know of. Easily fortified, and with strong impact resistant glass because it holds weapons. Having to break the door down would be unfortunate, and would create a new weak point, but I may get lucky and have it be unlocked depending on when the apocalypse hit.
Step 3) Raid the storage facility next door for anything/everything useful. If necessary, it can be converted into housing/holding cells if other survivors show up.
Step 4) Raid every eye clinic near bye for all of the contacts in my prescription.
General Rules:
No bladed weapons. The risk of being dumb and cutting yourself is too great. Even a minor accident would be a death sentence.
No melee weapon longer than my fore arm. If I'm hand to hand with zombies, something has already gone wrong and anything bigger is going to be more of a hindrance than a help.
They are shamblers. Shoot at 15 yards, and keep moving steadily. Maintain area awareness. They aren't going to catch you unless you do something stupid.
Surgical mask, goggles, and a ski cap that covers my ears are required at all times. No it won't be comfortable, no it won't help as much as a helmet. But it will let me maintain all of my senses without issue.
Supplies that take priority - Water and disinfectant (especially wet wipes, since showering/bathing will be very limited).
Since I'm in Seattle, there are going to be a lot of supplies available, with the very large metro population (3.6 million or so for Sea-Tac and Bellevue, with about 18,000 survivors) while still having a very low population density (about 590 per sq/mile). That means, especially up on the north end of the area where I will be, I will have a manageable number of zombies to deal with, while being isolated from the larger potential hordes by Lake Washington and Lake Union.
I can easily and effectively hunt zombies during the day, since my weapon of choice is near silent, and the targets may as well be stationary. I'll never be able to fully eliminate the zombie threat from the area by myself, but I would be able to seriously thin the immediate threats very quickly, taking only about 10 days if I averaged 50 zombies a day (assuming 2-3 hours hunting/supply searching per day) to clear a square mile around my base of operations.
Winters would be mild, which would be a blessing and a curse. The zombies would never really truly freeze, but I also don't have to worry about maintaining as intense supply levels, as I would likely never be snowed in.
So I live in Alabama, home of those Rednecks. I'm figuring that with all the gun nuts around, Alabama will be business as usual in about a week or so.
I live on a dirt road with 15 foot cliffs to either side at the start of my road, the sides being fenced off because I'm surrounded by cow fields. I can block that off with a gate to stop the hordes from getting close to my house. I also live in a trailer that's off the ground so I can keep the walkers out pretty easily. My biggest problem will be the end of the road. It opens up to a large, open field, which leads to a railroad track that will be just like a highway for the dead. I might have to fence it up somehow. Other than that, it's a decent base.
Question: Assuming that the zombies rot at the rate a normal body does, wouldn't the bulk of the apocalypse be over in 5-8 years? I think a zombie apocalypse would be a nicer one than say nuclear, robots, or aliens.
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I would be dead from kidney failure in under a month.
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Nah, I'd starve to death pretty soon. I've been a farm-boy, but I don't usually keep a farm on me, and those things take time to set up. Starving time.
Shouldn't take super long to reach a lake or something, though.
I've operated electric generators, but I can't fix anything. I use tape and screwdrivers to fix things, and that's about it.
Beating on slow people shouldn't be a problem, though. I've been in dumb fights before. Just need to keep some big sticks and furniture around so I don't have to touch anything. I have thick gloves and coats and junk.
And the doors around here aren't made of cardboard or anything; zambambos can't deal with that.
I guess my relative usefulness goes up when there aren't many people left, though, so maybe I'll get along with somebody.
It would suck to be back in hicksville when the whole world becomes hicksville, but on the bright side I don't value my life that much.
So I live in Alabama, home of those Rednecks. I'm figuring that with all the gun nuts around, Alabama will be business as usual in about a week or so.
I live on a dirt road with 15 foot cliffs to either side at the start of my road, the sides being fenced off because I'm surrounded by cow fields. I can block that off with a gate to stop the hordes from getting close to my house. I also live in a trailer that's off the ground so I can keep the walkers out pretty easily. My biggest problem will be the end of the road. It opens up to a large, open field, which leads to a railroad track that will be just like a highway for the dead. I might have to fence it up somehow. Other than that, it's a decent base.
Question: Assuming that the zombies rot at the rate a normal body does, wouldn't the bulk of the apocalypse be over in 5-8 years? I think a zombie apocalypse would be a nicer one than say nuclear, robots, or aliens.
That would be my hope. The crisis ends, or at least ebbs, while I am young and healthy, and the world starts to rebuild while the survivors still have enough existing supplies to live a decent life scavenging from the old world. Zombies either completely deteriorate or become a manageable threat, since their biggest threats are the initial surprise of the outbreak and the subsequent overwhelming numbers.
Considering the horrible effects of population and overpopulation, and the subsequent increase in conventional war and weapons of mass destruction use, the grandchildren of the zombie apocalypse survivors would probably be better off than our grandchildren.
I wonder if crows could eat a mashed zombie. If they can I am betting that in no time at all they will have figured out how to lure zombies off cliffs. Even if they can't they might do it anyway because it's funny.
Oh yeah, even if bugs don't like the freshness, plenty of animals only care about whether they physically can put you in their mouths.
And birds can already be assholes to humans. Picking on the even slower ones ought to be tempting.
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They've been around for awhile and are horrifyingly lethal. They're the main reason it is extremely dangerous to go swimming in freshwater farm runoff ponds.
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They've been around for awhile and are horrifyingly lethal. They're the main reason it is extremely dangerous to go swimming in freshwater farm runoff ponds.
They are also the reason using Neti pots with anything but distilled water is fucking dangerous.
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That puts us back in traditional military response territory. Carpet bombing a huge herd of zombies would be pretty effective.
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I guess digging the whole trench would be back breaking. Especially with my crappy back.
I'm sticking with the shopping cart ring though.
However, trying to come up with a plan for, say...Houston (where i'm from) is a much different problem.....although ammo would be more prevalent.
But eventually you are going to have a huge as fuck herd wander in and you'll be unprepared to deal with it and might even respond to it lazily because you expect just another small group wandering by.
Complacent?
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It was driving me insane.
Why would a herd wander in? These are mindless shamblers. Theres no mechanism for a herd to form (especially without tearing itself up)
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If you accept that random movement will result in, essentially, diffusion of zombies, and also that zombies react somewhat to stimuli like sound, it makes sense that they will herd and that those herds will eventually either become evenly distributed throughout the traversable land mass or will become very few giant herds that sweep over giant swaths of land.
Equip yourself with a radio of communication.
Alternatively, download all the porn you can for future use.
I don't want to imagine what Ham Radio porn would be like.
This is..a very alluring train of thought. Corvids are amazingly, astoundingly intelligent, and if they figure out they can eat the walking corpses..
THey could very well lure herds to living humans to let the humans kill them, or off cliffs as you suggested, though there aren't many cliffs comparatively..
"Okay, we're looking at a chick with really big tits. She's leaning forward and wiggling. Also, she totally is Anne Hathaway, it's not just Anne Hathaway's head on someone else's body."
"Love Machine, this is Big Momma, over.""
"Big Momma, this is Love Machine, go ahead."
"I am wearing red panties right now. - Break - Now I am taking them off. - Break - I'm only in my socks, over."
(continues)
I kind of imagined like an old timey radio adventure show, like from Up.
"Fornication is out there!"
Friends don't let friends dress as zombies during the Zombie apocalypse.
Please, learn from Bill's mistake. Woody Harrelson, and anyone sporting a number 3 on the side of their car, is not your friend.
Rednecks are not your friend, however they are more like an end game boss with epic loot.
It'd probably be enough to feed you for a day, barely. You'll probably want the marrow.
Note to everyone, if you're hunting food, eat bone marrow.
Longer term, I have family who are of a hunting and survival sort a few hundred miles north. I'd probably try to get up there and see if any of them survived. It's all mountainous forest area, not as person dense, so probably promising.
I'm not social at all, and I'd probably still go so nuts that'd I'd eventually die trying in futility to make friends with the zombies.
1a) After getting the biker gear, disassemble my tent poles, and bind them to the forearms of the jacket to use as arm guards. These are lightweight, very sturdy and should be near impossible for a zombie to bite through.
Step 2) Hit up the local archery club (about 10 miles away) for extra bows, string and arrows if they are available. Since we're talking an absolute minuscule fraction of all people surviving, the odds of other survivors knowing of the club, being proficient enough to use the weaponry, and being close enough to beat me there are very, very small. This will give me a good stock of high quality weapons, ammo and tools to maintain them. This would also probably become my new base of operations, since it is on the second floor with a single exterior staircase access that I know of. Easily fortified, and with strong impact resistant glass because it holds weapons. Having to break the door down would be unfortunate, and would create a new weak point, but I may get lucky and have it be unlocked depending on when the apocalypse hit.
Step 3) Raid the storage facility next door for anything/everything useful. If necessary, it can be converted into housing/holding cells if other survivors show up.
Step 4) Raid every eye clinic near bye for all of the contacts in my prescription.
General Rules:
Since I'm in Seattle, there are going to be a lot of supplies available, with the very large metro population (3.6 million or so for Sea-Tac and Bellevue, with about 18,000 survivors) while still having a very low population density (about 590 per sq/mile). That means, especially up on the north end of the area where I will be, I will have a manageable number of zombies to deal with, while being isolated from the larger potential hordes by Lake Washington and Lake Union.
I can easily and effectively hunt zombies during the day, since my weapon of choice is near silent, and the targets may as well be stationary. I'll never be able to fully eliminate the zombie threat from the area by myself, but I would be able to seriously thin the immediate threats very quickly, taking only about 10 days if I averaged 50 zombies a day (assuming 2-3 hours hunting/supply searching per day) to clear a square mile around my base of operations.
Winters would be mild, which would be a blessing and a curse. The zombies would never really truly freeze, but I also don't have to worry about maintaining as intense supply levels, as I would likely never be snowed in.
I live on a dirt road with 15 foot cliffs to either side at the start of my road, the sides being fenced off because I'm surrounded by cow fields. I can block that off with a gate to stop the hordes from getting close to my house. I also live in a trailer that's off the ground so I can keep the walkers out pretty easily. My biggest problem will be the end of the road. It opens up to a large, open field, which leads to a railroad track that will be just like a highway for the dead. I might have to fence it up somehow. Other than that, it's a decent base.
Question: Assuming that the zombies rot at the rate a normal body does, wouldn't the bulk of the apocalypse be over in 5-8 years? I think a zombie apocalypse would be a nicer one than say nuclear, robots, or aliens.
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Shouldn't take super long to reach a lake or something, though.
I've operated electric generators, but I can't fix anything. I use tape and screwdrivers to fix things, and that's about it.
Beating on slow people shouldn't be a problem, though. I've been in dumb fights before. Just need to keep some big sticks and furniture around so I don't have to touch anything. I have thick gloves and coats and junk.
And the doors around here aren't made of cardboard or anything; zambambos can't deal with that.
I guess my relative usefulness goes up when there aren't many people left, though, so maybe I'll get along with somebody.
It would suck to be back in hicksville when the whole world becomes hicksville, but on the bright side I don't value my life that much.
That would be my hope. The crisis ends, or at least ebbs, while I am young and healthy, and the world starts to rebuild while the survivors still have enough existing supplies to live a decent life scavenging from the old world. Zombies either completely deteriorate or become a manageable threat, since their biggest threats are the initial surprise of the outbreak and the subsequent overwhelming numbers.
Considering the horrible effects of population and overpopulation, and the subsequent increase in conventional war and weapons of mass destruction use, the grandchildren of the zombie apocalypse survivors would probably be better off than our grandchildren.
Oh yeah, even if bugs don't like the freshness, plenty of animals only care about whether they physically can put you in their mouths.
And birds can already be assholes to humans. Picking on the even slower ones ought to be tempting.
So they apparently found brain eating amoeba.
Let's see how the week goes to see if it will relate greatly to this thread.
Edit: I am living near this city
They've been around for awhile and are horrifyingly lethal. They're the main reason it is extremely dangerous to go swimming in freshwater farm runoff ponds.
They are also the reason using Neti pots with anything but distilled water is fucking dangerous.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Make sure to let it cool sufficiently.