We were at Chick-fil-A in Knightdale, NC, on August 1, 2012, in support of Truett Cathy's view of biblical marriage when "God Bless America" broke out! Thankful God has blessed our country! Thankful men like Truett Cathy have the freedom to express their beliefs as all other Americans do!
One of the things I realized over the past few years as I slowly distanced myself from evangelical Christianity is that you could probably put a lot of the blame for how modern Anerican Christianity acts at the feet of Paul.
Because when you look at Paul's letters, there's a theme of him telling people how Christians should act (and calling churches out for not being sufficiently Christian). And the stuff about hating gay people? You'll find that in Paul's letters, not the Gospel.
So I eventually just kinda decided that maybe I should put all the letters that came after the gospel in the "do not take too seriously" pile, because that's the point where you it's no longer Jesus' words but supposedly God "inspiring" people to say stuff Jesus totally would have said (but I guess didn't get around to for some reason?).
Of course once you start to question the integrity of the canon you also start to question which, if any, of the gospels are accurate and suddenly you're thinking "maybe agnosticism ain't so bad."
It's interesting that calling a kid Jesus is a thing in Latin America but would seem really strange in most (all?) English speaking countries. If you're introduce to a Mexican guy called Jesus you don't think anything of it, if you met an English guy called Jesus you would immediately infer that his parents were insane.
"joshua" is etymologically related to "jesus", they're both derived from the hebrew name yeshua
english just happened to distinguish jesus and joshua more than other languages
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The letters are basically just really good sermons that got added in as an epilogue and some people treat them as the Gospel sometimes and it's annoying.
Early Church politics is kinda interesting, but it's been a long ass time since I talked to an expert about it.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
One of the things I realized over the past few years as I slowly distanced myself from evangelical Christianity is that you could probably put a lot of the blame for how modern Anerican Christianity acts at the feet of Paul.
Because when you look at Paul's letters, there's a theme of him telling people how Christians should act (and calling churches out for not being sufficiently Christian). And the stuff about hating gay people? You'll find that in Paul's letters, not the Gospel.
So I eventually just kinda decided that maybe I should put all the letters that came after the gospel in the "do not take too seriously" pile, because that's the point where you it's no longer Jesus' words but supposedly God "inspiring" people to say stuff Jesus totally would have said (but I guess didn't get around to for some reason?).
Of course once you start to question the integrity of the canon you also start to question which, if any, of the gospels are accurate and suddenly you're thinking "maybe agnosticism ain't so bad."
It's interesting that calling a kid Jesus is a thing in Latin America but would seem really strange in most (all?) English speaking countries. If you're introduce to a Mexican guy called Jesus you don't think anything of it, if you met an English guy called Jesus you would immediately infer that his parents were insane.
"joshua" is etymologically related to "jesus", they're both derived from the hebrew name yeshua
english just happened to distinguish jesus and joshua more than other languages
On the teachings of Jesus, confusion and the divergence of belief
Luke: What do you think that he meant when he said "This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." Did he mean my generation or your generation?
Matthew: What? We're in the same generation.
Luke: No, I'm, like, ten years younger than you. I'm a Millennial and you're Generation X.
Matthew: I thought I was a Millennial. I grew up at the turn of the millennium!
Luke: No, I'm pretty sure that you're Generation X.
Matthew: That's stupid. I don't want to be Generation X. What does the X even mean?
Luke: Ten, I think. In Roman.
Matthew: Well, I don't want a dumb Roman label!
Luke: Millennial is pretty Roman, as well.
Matthew: Ugh! Well, anyway, he probably means everyone who is currently living.
Luke: So we're all immortal or somethi-- Oh, Jeez! That guy just fell off his horse!
This is my Bible fan fic, please don't steal. Luke is an OC, not the Biblical Luke, please don't steal.
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I feel like that's people praying near a bull statue.
They're literally laying hands on it while they do so.
I'm guessing they're praying to god to have him save the market, herein pictured by the bull. So I'd hazard that's more of a laying on hands thing then a worship thing.
The letters are basically just really good sermons that got added in as an epilogue and some people treat them as the Gospel sometimes and it's annoying.
Early Church politics is kinda interesting, but it's been a long ass time since I talked to an expert about it.
And Acts is weird because it's basically Luke writing fan fiction about the disciples
Also you don't have to call cops sir. Nor are you expected to.
Maybe not where you live. Here you are expected to say "sir" or "Mam" to the police.
I live in a pretty small and well off town, and have worked with the police in the past (when I was a cook at a 24 hour diner they paid an off duty officer to stand around in uniform and help break up fights. He was a cool dude) but even the ones out here scare me. I've been pulled over for matching a description of a suspect and treated like shit by a couple of local cops, who called back up, and made me wait around for about an hour before I was allowed to finish going into work. I've had guns drawn on me 2 times...for no reason. And I had a state trooper call me a "complete and total fuckup. I hope your proud because I guranantee your mama isn't" and another trooped was yelling at me red faced once and called me all kinds of names.
I hate Indiana
I've never had an ISP trooper be a dick (in fact, the 3 I've had to deal with were all super nice to me), but yeah, IN sheriffs and small-city cops (IMPD's a mixed-bag) tend to be massive assoles around here.
Thank god I'm white.
I forgot to address this at the time but it's insane to me that someone would be this shitty with @Bucketman of all people. He's just such a naturally sweet guy, I don't know how some sense of inherent human decency doesn't kick in.
Cherry-picking the parts we like is pretty much par for the course with modern society. I'm sure we all know folks who do or have done drugs, jaywalked or pirated media despite those things being ostensibly illegal. Choosing which parts of the Bible to follow is not much different, especially if you factor in its origins as a rulebook made up by disparate peoples over 2000 years ago. We can consider ourselves part of a nation yet still object to acts committed by our governments and other members of that nation.
'I feel like Christianity has been contradictory to the teachings of Jesus for a really long time' is an opinion so really all one can do is ask why you feel that way? Growing up I found it fairly consistent in its emphasis on charity, humility and faith, though I sat through enough readings and homilies where I thought 'Naw dog that's jacked up' to adhere too rigorously to much beyond 'don't be a dick; if there's a heaven/God and God isn't a dick you'll be fine'. I'm far from observant but I strongly feel that I'm a happier, more optimistic person because of that upbringing.
We were at Chick-fil-A in Knightdale, NC, on August 1, 2012, in support of Truett Cathy's view of biblical marriage when "God Bless America" broke out! Thankful God has blessed our country! Thankful men like Truett Cathy have the freedom to express their beliefs as all other Americans do!
I'm kind of glad that Chick-Fil-A is the one fast food chain to declare overt shitty religious ties, instead of one of the various other places I would actually regret never returning to.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Then again I think Powell is a de facto right wing Democrat at this point.
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God, I love Powell so much. What an awesome dude.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I don't think he'll ever run for office again, which is why he's so clearly in "Do Not Give A Fuck" mode and has been for at least 8 years.
I would conceivably vote Republican for him, depending on who he ran against.
Yeah I think for me, going through and watching a reading a bunch of political stuff that I was too young to care about, the moment I realized the GOP was too far to come back was when Powell swore off public office.
Which is a shame, they need more Republicans like him.
One of the things I realized over the past few years as I slowly distanced myself from evangelical Christianity is that you could probably put a lot of the blame for how modern Anerican Christianity acts at the feet of Paul.
Because when you look at Paul's letters, there's a theme of him telling people how Christians should act (and calling churches out for not being sufficiently Christian). And the stuff about hating gay people? You'll find that in Paul's letters, not the Gospel.
So I eventually just kinda decided that maybe I should put all the letters that came after the gospel in the "do not take too seriously" pile, because that's the point where you it's no longer Jesus' words but supposedly God "inspiring" people to say stuff Jesus totally would have said (but I guess didn't get around to for some reason?).
Of course once you start to question the integrity of the canon you also start to question which, if any, of the gospels are accurate and suddenly you're thinking "maybe agnosticism ain't so bad."
I know! It's nuts that over half the books of the New Testament were written by a guy who didn't convert until after the events of the gospels were completely over and never met the main character in person! Jesus Force-ghosted in on him one time to push him down and be like "Paul, you are verily rustling the jimmies of mine people. Don't be such a dick from now on. Flash grenade!"
And then once Paul's vision was restored by an actual apostle, he basically spent the rest of his life going "Don't be a dick, eh? I think we can reach a reasonable compromise there."
I'm kind of glad that Chick-Fil-A is the one fast food chain to declare overt shitty religious ties, instead of one of the various other places I would actually regret never returning to.
I'm kind of glad that Chick-Fil-A is the one fast food chain to declare overt shitty religious ties, instead of one of the various other places I would actually regret never returning to.
I'm sure the GOP establishment would love to dump the Southern strategy and stop concentrating on social issues and coded racism but they don't have the base for it any more.
The "southern strategy" is why they don't have the base for it any more.
The problem isn't that the GOP doesn't have a base for it, it's that it needs to kick out one part of it's base-- probably by being gifted a populist democratic candidate that's more attractive to white racists
And during the primary season when those people don't vote republican, they float someone up who isn't quite as abhorrent to minorities
A magician gives you a ring that, when worn, will let you see the world as it truly is.
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
I don't see how they kick out that segment of the base without
A. Massively restructuring primaries so that they can pick who votes (which isn't unheard of)
B. Killing a large enough part of their voter base that they submit to thirty years of unbroken Democrat rule
Which maybe they should do! Maybe it's worth it to bring back the party of Lincoln! It's a hard fucking sell for the people in the party though
if only we all agreed on what constituted "being a dick"
Do we need to agree? Wrt religion interpretation is always going to be fairly personal - it's for lawmakers and government to enforce more rigid rules. Separation of church and state is meant to be a thing.
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Islam? I mean they recognize jesus in their religion.
(I dont want to be part of any shit throwing.)
Because when you look at Paul's letters, there's a theme of him telling people how Christians should act (and calling churches out for not being sufficiently Christian). And the stuff about hating gay people? You'll find that in Paul's letters, not the Gospel.
So I eventually just kinda decided that maybe I should put all the letters that came after the gospel in the "do not take too seriously" pile, because that's the point where you it's no longer Jesus' words but supposedly God "inspiring" people to say stuff Jesus totally would have said (but I guess didn't get around to for some reason?).
Of course once you start to question the integrity of the canon you also start to question which, if any, of the gospels are accurate and suddenly you're thinking "maybe agnosticism ain't so bad."
They're literally laying hands on it while they do so.
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"joshua" is etymologically related to "jesus", they're both derived from the hebrew name yeshua
english just happened to distinguish jesus and joshua more than other languages
Early Church politics is kinda interesting, but it's been a long ass time since I talked to an expert about it.
Paul was a sexist fuck.
I learned a new thing today, thanks!
Matthew: What? We're in the same generation.
Luke: No, I'm, like, ten years younger than you. I'm a Millennial and you're Generation X.
Matthew: I thought I was a Millennial. I grew up at the turn of the millennium!
Luke: No, I'm pretty sure that you're Generation X.
Matthew: That's stupid. I don't want to be Generation X. What does the X even mean?
Luke: Ten, I think. In Roman.
Matthew: Well, I don't want a dumb Roman label!
Luke: Millennial is pretty Roman, as well.
Matthew: Ugh! Well, anyway, he probably means everyone who is currently living.
Luke: So we're all immortal or somethi-- Oh, Jeez! That guy just fell off his horse!
This is my Bible fan fic, please don't steal. Luke is an OC, not the Biblical Luke, please don't steal.
Very, very near to it.
I'm guessing they're praying to god to have him save the market, herein pictured by the bull. So I'd hazard that's more of a laying on hands thing then a worship thing.
Still off tho.
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And Acts is weird because it's basically Luke writing fan fiction about the disciples
I forgot to address this at the time but it's insane to me that someone would be this shitty with @Bucketman of all people. He's just such a naturally sweet guy, I don't know how some sense of inherent human decency doesn't kick in.
'I feel like Christianity has been contradictory to the teachings of Jesus for a really long time' is an opinion so really all one can do is ask why you feel that way? Growing up I found it fairly consistent in its emphasis on charity, humility and faith, though I sat through enough readings and homilies where I thought 'Naw dog that's jacked up' to adhere too rigorously to much beyond 'don't be a dick; if there's a heaven/God and God isn't a dick you'll be fine'. I'm far from observant but I strongly feel that I'm a happier, more optimistic person because of that upbringing.
I'm kind of glad that Chick-Fil-A is the one fast food chain to declare overt shitty religious ties, instead of one of the various other places I would actually regret never returning to.
No one ever prays the to Bear Market statue
Suckers worship gold. You want to go Platinum aka the S-Rank idol
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Well, except for Chicago fans and look what that got em.
I would conceivably vote Republican for him, depending on who he ran against.
The Church of Bayonetta has pretty wild sermons
Hmm... I wonder what he's up to now...
http://www.thedp.com/article/2016/05/jon-huntsman-jr-trump-endorsement
Crap.
I'm not convinced anymore.
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Yeah I think for me, going through and watching a reading a bunch of political stuff that I was too young to care about, the moment I realized the GOP was too far to come back was when Powell swore off public office.
Which is a shame, they need more Republicans like him.
I know! It's nuts that over half the books of the New Testament were written by a guy who didn't convert until after the events of the gospels were completely over and never met the main character in person! Jesus Force-ghosted in on him one time to push him down and be like "Paul, you are verily rustling the jimmies of mine people. Don't be such a dick from now on. Flash grenade!"
And then once Paul's vision was restored by an actual apostle, he basically spent the rest of his life going "Don't be a dick, eh? I think we can reach a reasonable compromise there."
what
no
don't do this to me
lslam recognizes Jesus as a prophet, but not the messiah
so they're more like... different jesus christianity
edit: wait no they do believe Jesus is the messiah but not the son of God? im not a theologist
The problem isn't that the GOP doesn't have a base for it, it's that it needs to kick out one part of it's base-- probably by being gifted a populist democratic candidate that's more attractive to white racists
And during the primary season when those people don't vote republican, they float someone up who isn't quite as abhorrent to minorities
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
A. Massively restructuring primaries so that they can pick who votes (which isn't unheard of)
B. Killing a large enough part of their voter base that they submit to thirty years of unbroken Democrat rule
Which maybe they should do! Maybe it's worth it to bring back the party of Lincoln! It's a hard fucking sell for the people in the party though
Do we need to agree? Wrt religion interpretation is always going to be fairly personal - it's for lawmakers and government to enforce more rigid rules. Separation of church and state is meant to be a thing.
they believe jesus was a prophet but was not divine