cptruggedI think it has something to do with free will.Registered Userregular
For all my love of classic sci-fi. And of William Shatner especially. I've just never really enjoyed ToS. Something about it just rubbed me the wrong way. Probably cause I watched TNG as my first real Star Trek show. So to me, that is default Trek. Guess that would make me a Trekker not a Trekkie.
but that doesn't really seem like it's about systemic oppression as much as it is about war
The discussion around it is--like the character's reason for fighting is that she's part of a subspecies that is only used for building shit to serve the elite class, and isn't permitted to do anything else or even think of themselves as being capable of anything else.
Idk it was just a weird episode that I didn't like, except for the cool character design.
Also, [chat] you should know i am still totally digging Steven Universe and really enjoyed the episode fragment about Peridot and Lapis having a barn full of ridiculous modern art. However, I did not really like the message of the episode about Bismuth and the limitation on acceptable ways of taking down systemic oppression.
what was its opinion on acceptable ways of taking down systemic oppression
It had a weird objection to using lethal weapons in what I thought was an all-out war where the oppressive side was using lethal weapons (but the oppressed side was only using non-lethal weapons?)
Maybe it was just presented without enough context (because the characters are all these immortal-except-killed entities who can be killed or just put into a dormant state. I think the oppressor side just kills and the oppressed side puts them into a dormant state (indefinitely...)?)
When a character comes up with a weapon that kills, the protagonist is super freaked out and puts her into the dormant state, which just seemed kinda fucked up.
I mean on the face of it it's not entirely weird
the fact that others do is not usually a compelling argument to compromise your own morals
Yeah, I mean it makes sense given the characters (like the main dude is a tween empath; he's not going to be ok with killing). It also summoned weird parallels to the discourse on 'acceptable ways for black people to fight the system', which is partially from the show's casting/character design/writing and partially summoned entirely from connections made in my head from being an american person at this point in time.
well
acceptable ways for american black people to fight the system doesn't really include taking up arms and starting with political terrorism, does it?
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While driving on the highway during a heavy thunderstorm I saw an SUV lose control, flipped once and crashed into a ditch. I didn't stop to try and pull over to help because it was raining hard and I would have to cross two lanes to pull over, felt bad about it.
honestly if you aren't trained you run the risk of causing more harm anyway (not saying you're guaranteed to, just)
best to just call 911 and report it
Every first aid instructor I've ever had would disagree with you, at volume
the risk of you making things worse is nothing compared to the likelihood of the benefit of even untrained help
well that's incredibly inconvenient for me
Allegedly a voice of reason.
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For all my love of classic sci-fi. And of William Shatner especially. I've just never really enjoyed ToS. Something about it just rubbed me the wrong way. Probably cause I watched TNG as my first real Star Trek show. So to me, that is default Trek. Guess that would make me a Trekker not a Trekkie.
Sounds like the kind of thing you would get out of anime. Passivity and all that.
I can think of two big examples (Kenshin and Trigun) where that same idea of never resorting to lethal force played a huge part in the resolution of conflict.
If SU were an anime
Steven would ultimately have to end up using the gem-killing device, yes. I will be incredibly surprised if Steven himself chooses that decision in a western animation though.
Also, [chat] you should know i am still totally digging Steven Universe and really enjoyed the episode fragment about Peridot and Lapis having a barn full of ridiculous modern art. However, I did not really like the message of the episode about Bismuth and the limitation on acceptable ways of taking down systemic oppression.
what was its opinion on acceptable ways of taking down systemic oppression
It had a weird objection to using lethal weapons in what I thought was an all-out war where the oppressive side was using lethal weapons (but the oppressed side was only using non-lethal weapons?)
Maybe it was just presented without enough context (because the characters are all these immortal-except-killed entities who can be killed or just put into a dormant state. I think the oppressor side just kills and the oppressed side puts them into a dormant state (indefinitely...)?)
When a character comes up with a weapon that kills, the protagonist is super freaked out and puts her into the dormant state, which just seemed kinda fucked up.
I mean on the face of it it's not entirely weird
the fact that others do is not usually a compelling argument to compromise your own morals
Yeah, I mean it makes sense given the characters (like the main dude is a tween empath; he's not going to be ok with killing). It also summoned weird parallels to the discourse on 'acceptable ways for black people to fight the system', which is partially from the show's casting/character design/writing and partially summoned entirely from connections made in my head from being an american person at this point in time.
well
acceptable ways for american black people to fight the system doesn't really include taking up arms and starting with political terrorism, does it?
A lot of people don't like that approach, no.
idk where I'm going here, really.
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Today is my one year anniversary with the gf! Sadly she is at rehearsal until 10 pm and is leaving for another month on Friday.
She is a non materialistic ascetic so I am going to just give her a bunch of really nice vegan-ish chocolate, which is her only indulgence. Maybe I'll get champagne and peer pressure her into drinking it.
what.....does vegan-ish chocolate even entail
like they don't use milk, sure. are there other common animal products used to make chocolate?
Not that I'm aware of. You can even sub out the milk and make something that tastes almost exactly like milk chocolate using sugar and palm oil.
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when I was pretty little my mom pulled over to help in a really bad accident before first responders got there, she definitely saved some shmuck from bleeding out
my mom is a drama queen and hyper reactionary person just like me, but she's also a competent medical professional who has saved many lives over a long career for shit pay and now thinking about this I'm upset again at how her employer is treating her
While driving on the highway during a heavy thunderstorm I saw an SUV lose control, flipped once and crashed into a ditch. I didn't stop to try and pull over to help because it was raining hard and I would have to cross two lanes to pull over, felt bad about it.
honestly if you aren't trained you run the risk of causing more harm anyway (not saying you're guaranteed to, just)
best to just call 911 and report it
Every first aid instructor I've ever had would disagree with you, at volume
the risk of you making things worse is nothing compared to the likelihood of the benefit of even untrained help
well that's incredibly inconvenient for me
well, yes. Stop and help. If you're worried about not knowing what to do, take a first aid course. The main point of those are that even if you forget most of it, that you'll be like "right I know sorta what to do" and you start to do things
Looking at my mirrors I did see some cars in the lane the SUV was in pull over. I felt it was too risky trying to slow down and cross over a couple of lanes in the rain.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
Yeah, mostly I just thought the bit about the art in the barn is the fucking best and Peridot is also the best. Really pleased to have found a show that elicits this much emotion.
While driving on the highway during a heavy thunderstorm I saw an SUV lose control, flipped once and crashed into a ditch. I didn't stop to try and pull over to help because it was raining hard and I would have to cross two lanes to pull over, felt bad about it.
honestly if you aren't trained you run the risk of causing more harm anyway (not saying you're guaranteed to, just)
best to just call 911 and report it
Every first aid instructor I've ever had would disagree with you, at volume
the risk of you making things worse is nothing compared to the likelihood of the benefit of even untrained help
well that's incredibly inconvenient for me
well, yes. Stop and help. If you're worried about not knowing what to do, take a first aid course. The main point of those are that even if you forget most of it, that you'll be like "right I know sorta what to do" and you start to do things
There are really only two things to know if you're untrained. If there's no danger of them being hurt more, don't move them. If there is danger of them being hurt more, only move them enough to get them out of danger.
most places you can get sued if you try to help and something goes wrong
its okay if you fuck up just shoot the victim and claim you were scared for your life, then they can't sue you
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cptruggedI think it has something to do with free will.Registered Userregular
The odder bit is that that is my opinion of the tv series'.
But when it comes to the movies. Nothing in the TNG stable comes close to Khan or Voyage Home. Hell, I think I like The Motion Picture (With its 15 min of tracking shots filler) more than most of the TNG movies.
most places you can get sued if you try to help and something goes wrong
honestly, I'm not so sure this is actually true
I mean unless you are a bona fide moron and you, I don't know, try to help by defibrillating the man with the broken legs by hooking him up to the mains
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I've never been in such a situation, but i assume if you called 911 you would be put in touch with someone that could like, talk you through basic first aid stuff? obviously knowing basic first aid stuff already would be better
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That passivity - while noble and to an extent keeping the individual blameless - in the face of oppression allows the oppression to continue, and only through action and potentially blame-worthy actions can you end the oppression?
There is an ethical dilemma in teaching children to turn the other cheek and always be the better person, as in the real world this regularly does not come out well for the individual.
...and of course, as always, Kill Hitler.
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Ugh, spoiled for stress + relationship stuff
Despite it feeling early, I've been increasingly wishing I could move in with Querry like, now. We originally talked about it abstractly a few months ago, because my lease ends in late July, so that put it into our heads. We didn't actually bring it up until a bit after that, and the conclusion was basically "yeah, that would've been too early, but next year around then sounds like a good date to shoot for, if things are still going well." We separately came to those conclusions. But the thought of it has been cropping up more lately, for a variety of reasons, and now we both would really like to, even though it doesn't make sense, so we've got another yearish before we can.
But anyway, it's extremely stressful not to, and causes a not small amount of pining. A lot of this is tied to work, which has just kicked up a thousand percent. We both periodically have twelve hour days, and come home too exhausted to really interact with each other in the ways we're used to. There are a lot of times when I just want to eat and then go to bed with her, but I never get that on the days I really need it, and we both have to scavenge or cook for ourselves even when we get home at nine, and the other person always feels weird and wishes they could be there for practical and emotional support.
Basically life is stressful and I wish I could come home to her consistently, and spend exhausted nights snuggling into her and falling asleep, instead of exhaustedly trying to Skype and watch TV and then sleeping alone.
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The discussion around it is--like the character's reason for fighting is that she's part of a subspecies that is only used for building shit to serve the elite class, and isn't permitted to do anything else or even think of themselves as being capable of anything else.
Idk it was just a weird episode that I didn't like, except for the cool character design.
well
acceptable ways for american black people to fight the system doesn't really include taking up arms and starting with political terrorism, does it?
well that's incredibly inconvenient for me
The trick is to eat more
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That's TNG!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing
most places you can get sued if you try to help and something goes wrong
A lot of people don't like that approach, no.
idk where I'm going here, really.
Not that I'm aware of. You can even sub out the milk and make something that tastes almost exactly like milk chocolate using sugar and palm oil.
But those nails ARE fab
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my mom is a drama queen and hyper reactionary person just like me, but she's also a competent medical professional who has saved many lives over a long career for shit pay and now thinking about this I'm upset again at how her employer is treating her
well, yes. Stop and help. If you're worried about not knowing what to do, take a first aid course. The main point of those are that even if you forget most of it, that you'll be like "right I know sorta what to do" and you start to do things
I thought good Samarition laws were pretty common
maybe i'm thinking specifically of when i worked in a restaurant at a nursing home
but yeah, it was drilled into our heads not to help
There are really only two things to know if you're untrained. If there's no danger of them being hurt more, don't move them. If there is danger of them being hurt more, only move them enough to get them out of danger.
its okay if you fuck up just shoot the victim and claim you were scared for your life, then they can't sue you
But when it comes to the movies. Nothing in the TNG stable comes close to Khan or Voyage Home. Hell, I think I like The Motion Picture (With its 15 min of tracking shots filler) more than most of the TNG movies.
To expand on that, in WA state you are legally obligated to stop and help if you have the training to do so.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing
how can you not say this is bes?
honestly, I'm not so sure this is actually true
I mean unless you are a bona fide moron and you, I don't know, try to help by defibrillating the man with the broken legs by hooking him up to the mains
Thankfully she is into dark chocolate, as any right thinking person of taste would be, so it's always mostly cocoa anyway
Fyi this is fake the application job is too perfect for a child and I recognize the product that was actually used
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palm oil is trying its best to match the ecological damage of petroleum oil
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There is an ethical dilemma in teaching children to turn the other cheek and always be the better person, as in the real world this regularly does not come out well for the individual.
32 states so fairly
I am not ready to accept that someone would just lie on the internet!
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it's like you're not even trying p10
But anyway, it's extremely stressful not to, and causes a not small amount of pining. A lot of this is tied to work, which has just kicked up a thousand percent. We both periodically have twelve hour days, and come home too exhausted to really interact with each other in the ways we're used to. There are a lot of times when I just want to eat and then go to bed with her, but I never get that on the days I really need it, and we both have to scavenge or cook for ourselves even when we get home at nine, and the other person always feels weird and wishes they could be there for practical and emotional support.
Basically life is stressful and I wish I could come home to her consistently, and spend exhausted nights snuggling into her and falling asleep, instead of exhaustedly trying to Skype and watch TV and then sleeping alone.
God you guys are real nazis about that kind of thing.
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