yeah I always think of Lovecraft as more ...conceptually interesting, than an actually compelling writer. The best Lovecraft books are always lovecraft homages by better authors.
yeah I always think of Lovecraft as more ...conceptually interesting, than an actually compelling writer. The best Lovecraft books are always lovecraft homages by better authors.
Do you have any in mind? I'm in the same boat as far as thinking it's conceptually interesting.
Lovecraft's big thing is that he would gesture at some really cool ideas, so if you tend to sit and think about that sort of idea for a while he can resonate you more than he would based on the quality of his writing
When I was a teenager, engaging with those ideas brought me a lot of pleasure, but even then I was like "Geez this is super racist" and I thought he was too preoccupied with the upending of the natural order of things as a metaphor for upper-class Anglo folk losing their places of privilege
I have made all the necessary preparations and warned all my friends that I am going to be just obnoxious about Dark Tower probably until the movie comes out
My mom is a lifelong King diehard, so she already has all the books and has been lending them to me, so I've just got a steady flow of them
If I already enjoyed the Gunslinger, apparently I am in for a treat when it becomes the actual Dark Tower series
yeah I always think of Lovecraft as more ...conceptually interesting, than an actually compelling writer. The best Lovecraft books are always lovecraft homages by better authors.
Do you have any in mind? I'm in the same boat as far as thinking it's conceptually interesting.
Charles Stross and The Laundry Files are good.
Here is a short story from Neil Gaiman in a Sherlock Holmes/Lovecraft mashup
But if you want a pulp author whose writing lives up to the impact of his stories on genre fiction, Robert E Howard. His action scenes sizzle off the page and he evokes his characters and settings with rough but very compelling imagery.
I just finished read the Expanse series by James S.A. Corey. I really enjoyed the setting and was surprised that the Syfy show only covers about half of the first book.
But I mean if you tell me there is a noir detective story set on a space station I am totally picking up what you are putting down.
But if you want a pulp author whose writing lives up to the impact of his stories on genre fiction, Robert E Howard. His action scenes sizzle off the page and he evokes his characters and settings with rough but very compelling imagery.
Couldn't agree more. I always assumed the Conan stories would just be the schlockiest bottom of the barrel garbage that happened to have a compelling character that took a life of his own, but I finally sat and read one and immediately procured and read everything else of his as well.
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Yeah, Lovecraft absolutely is not for everyone. If you want to keep trying, my recommended stories would be as follows:
The Rats in the Walls
The Shadow Over Innsmouth
Pickman's Model
The Hound
Herbert West: Re-Animator (note: this is the schlockiest pulp bullshit, but that's why I love it)
I just finished read the Expanse series by James S.A. Corey. I really enjoyed the setting and was surprised that the Syfy show only covers about half of the first book.
But I mean if you tell me there is a noir detective story set on a space station I am totally picking up what you are putting down.
From what I understand it covers some stuff a little differently from the books. The UN undersecretary appeared in the show in season one, but doesn't show up until book two. Bobbie will be showing up a little early compared to the books, too (not too different if she only ends up showing at the very end of S2 though)
Haven't actually seen it myself yet though.
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yeah I always think of Lovecraft as more ...conceptually interesting, than an actually compelling writer. The best Lovecraft books are always lovecraft homages by better authors.
Do you have any in mind? I'm in the same boat as far as thinking it's conceptually interesting.
Charles Stross and The Laundry Files are good.
Here is a short story from Neil Gaiman in a Sherlock Holmes/Lovecraft mashup
Expanse is pretty great, im waiting impatiently on sixth book, Babylon Ashes.
buuuut... is there anyone who thinks that Nemesis Games isn't as great as most reviewers think it is?
I have not read/watched anything related to the Expanse, but that title makes me hopeful for Space Rastafarians, which have been
woefully absent since Neuromancer. Please tell me there are Space Rastafarians.
yeah I always think of Lovecraft as more ...conceptually interesting, than an actually compelling writer. The best Lovecraft books are always lovecraft homages by better authors.
Do you have any in mind? I'm in the same boat as far as thinking it's conceptually interesting.
Charles Stross and The Laundry Files are good.
Here is a short story from Neil Gaiman in a Sherlock Holmes/Lovecraft mashup
yeah I always think of Lovecraft as more ...conceptually interesting, than an actually compelling writer. The best Lovecraft books are always lovecraft homages by better authors.
Do you have any in mind? I'm in the same boat as far as thinking it's conceptually interesting.
Charles Stross and The Laundry Files are good.
Here is a short story from Neil Gaiman in a Sherlock Holmes/Lovecraft mashup
yeah I always think of Lovecraft as more ...conceptually interesting, than an actually compelling writer. The best Lovecraft books are always lovecraft homages by better authors.
Do you have any in mind? I'm in the same boat as far as thinking it's conceptually interesting.
Charles Stross and The Laundry Files are good.
Here is a short story from Neil Gaiman in a Sherlock Holmes/Lovecraft mashup
Hey Pooro, if uh, you ever get the urge for some reason, don't read any of Jeremy Robert Johnson's short stories
Just trust me on this one, alright
Yeah? I've read Angel Dust Apocalypse and Extinction Journals, and I don't recall hating 'em. It's been many years, though.
There are a couple of rough Native American stories in We Live Inside You
Aw, Jeremy, why
He even did a project with Stephen, I think!
I mean, there definitely a part of the same community, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt with the first one partially because of that,, and maybe you'd get a different read, but
Two different story spoilers
The first one is centered around a man who is possessed by a Native American woman who was murdered by being pushed off a waterfall, so he lures young women up there and kills them that way.
The main character is a woman whose kid brother was killed by this dude in this way, and his ghost helps him out. The ancient Indian curse thing is some bullshit, but like I said, benefit of the doubt - he mentions specific tribes and seems to have actually done some legwork.
The second involves a dude with a mohawk getting attacked by a Indigenous dude with a boxcutter when he stops to go to the bathroom on the reservation land. The injury proceeds to put him into some sort of forced Ghost Dance thing after he ingested mushrooms at Burning Man, and when the hallucination won't go away, he goes back to the reservation to pick a fight, a fight which culminates in him getting scalped.
Yeah, Lovecraft absolutely is not for everyone. If you want to keep trying, my recommended stories would be as follows:
The Rats in the Walls
The Shadow Over Innsmouth
Pickman's Model
The Hound
Herbert West: Re-Animator (note: this is the schlockiest pulp bullshit, but that's why I love it)
I think The Shadow Over Innsmouth is the best straight horror story Lovecraft wrote. It's just a man who goes to a creepy small town and scariness ensues.
Hey Pooro, if uh, you ever get the urge for some reason, don't read any of Jeremy Robert Johnson's short stories
Just trust me on this one, alright
Yeah? I've read Angel Dust Apocalypse and Extinction Journals, and I don't recall hating 'em. It's been many years, though.
There are a couple of rough Native American stories in We Live Inside You
Aw, Jeremy, why
He even did a project with Stephen, I think!
I mean, there definitely a part of the same community, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt with the first one partially because of that,, and maybe you'd get a different read, but
Two different story spoilers
The first one is centered around a man who is possessed by a Native American woman who was murdered by being pushed off a waterfall, so he lures young women up there and kills them that way.
The main character is a woman whose kid brother was killed by this dude in this way, and his ghost helps him out. The ancient Indian curse thing is some bullshit, but like I said, benefit of the doubt - he mentions specific tribes and seems to have actually done some legwork.
The second involves a dude with a mohawk getting attacked by a Indigenous dude with a boxcutter when he stops to go to the bathroom on the reservation land. The injury proceeds to put him into some sort of forced Ghost Dance thing after he ingested mushrooms at Burning Man, and when the hallucination won't go away, he goes back to the reservation to pick a fight, a fight which culminates in him getting scalped.
My brother got me a copy of Alan Moore's Lovecraft inspired comic Providence.
So far there are journal entries, references to the King in Yellow, a handsome gay protagonist, a handsome possibly gay Irish police detective and a scary glowing skull-headed naked lady screaming HOO HOO HOOHOOHOO
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The ironic thing about Lovecraft is that his best stories tend to either also be his most racist or else have no horror elements at all
It's been a long, long time since I read it but I think the best story he ever wrote is still Celephais
lovecraft is important more for the stuff that he inspired others to create than for what he made himself
Also this is a strong visualization
The Man in Black has a Brad Dourif vibe.
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Viggo Mortensen is one of the few people besides Elba who could have made me interested in seeing the series.
Do you have any in mind? I'm in the same boat as far as thinking it's conceptually interesting.
When I was a teenager, engaging with those ideas brought me a lot of pleasure, but even then I was like "Geez this is super racist" and I thought he was too preoccupied with the upending of the natural order of things as a metaphor for upper-class Anglo folk losing their places of privilege
My mom is a lifelong King diehard, so she already has all the books and has been lending them to me, so I've just got a steady flow of them
If I already enjoyed the Gunslinger, apparently I am in for a treat when it becomes the actual Dark Tower series
Charles Stross and The Laundry Files are good.
Here is a short story from Neil Gaiman in a Sherlock Holmes/Lovecraft mashup
http://www.neilgaiman.com/mediafiles/exclusive/shortstories/emerald.pdf
But if you want a pulp author whose writing lives up to the impact of his stories on genre fiction, Robert E Howard. His action scenes sizzle off the page and he evokes his characters and settings with rough but very compelling imagery.
But I mean if you tell me there is a noir detective story set on a space station I am totally picking up what you are putting down.
Couldn't agree more. I always assumed the Conan stories would just be the schlockiest bottom of the barrel garbage that happened to have a compelling character that took a life of his own, but I finally sat and read one and immediately procured and read everything else of his as well.
The Rats in the Walls
The Shadow Over Innsmouth
Pickman's Model
The Hound
Herbert West: Re-Animator (note: this is the schlockiest pulp bullshit, but that's why I love it)
From what I understand it covers some stuff a little differently from the books. The UN undersecretary appeared in the show in season one, but doesn't show up until book two. Bobbie will be showing up a little early compared to the books, too (not too different if she only ends up showing at the very end of S2 though)
Haven't actually seen it myself yet though.
buuuut... is there anyone who thinks that Nemesis Games isn't as great as most reviewers think it is?
I hadn't seen that short story before and it is a delight, thanks!
I have not read/watched anything related to the Expanse, but that title makes me hopeful for Space Rastafarians, which have been
woefully absent since Neuromancer. Please tell me there are Space Rastafarians.
It's in the short story book Shadows Over Baker Street, which I really liked, but it seems to not be a big hit amongst most people.
I mean, some of it is shitty, but I still dig the premise enough to cut it some slack.
I don't remember any story in this except a Study in Emerald, but I do remember liking it overall.
Just trust me on this one, alright
Yeah? I've read Angel Dust Apocalypse and Extinction Journals, and I don't recall hating 'em. It's been many years, though.
That's pretty much how I am, except I'll break it out every couple of years and give it a read and promptly forget it!
Do it so I'm not the only one
I start the second one tomorrow
There are a couple of rough Native American stories in We Live Inside You
I'm working my way through Wolves of Calla now.
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this bit from the perspective of the heroin addict is just a pain to read.
this is the part where people tap out on
including me, my first attempt
I believe in you
Aw, Jeremy, why
He even did a project with Stephen, I think!
I will persevere!
I mean, there definitely a part of the same community, I was giving him the benefit of the doubt with the first one partially because of that,, and maybe you'd get a different read, but
Two different story spoilers
The main character is a woman whose kid brother was killed by this dude in this way, and his ghost helps him out. The ancient Indian curse thing is some bullshit, but like I said, benefit of the doubt - he mentions specific tribes and seems to have actually done some legwork.
I think The Shadow Over Innsmouth is the best straight horror story Lovecraft wrote. It's just a man who goes to a creepy small town and scariness ensues.
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Sheesh, Jeremy.
So far there are journal entries, references to the King in Yellow, a handsome gay protagonist, a handsome possibly gay Irish police detective and a scary glowing skull-headed naked lady screaming HOO HOO HOOHOOHOO
I can apparently rent audibooks digitally from my library and they have a full cast Dune for rent.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades