Tomorrow:
"Enterprise, four to beam up. Obama out." shhhhhng
Oh hells no. You can't leave me with these fuckers Obama, take me with you!
Obama - "My twelve year mission to study human life on this planet to see if you are ready for integration into the galactic community has come to an end. Unfortunately you have proved yourself to be a crude and brutish people capable of inflicting pain for no purpose and only motivated by greed. As such you have been designated a class zero or toxic intelligence and will be exterminated in three weeks. Obama out!"
Trump - "I told you that birth certificate was a fake! I was right all along!"
OBUMMER GONNA ABOLISH THEM CONSTITUTIONS, BECOME EMPEROR OF AMERICA AND BAN GUNS FOREVER JUST AS I KNEW HE WOULD
Yeah, alright. I'm down.
The Emperor protects.
Trump has a Golden Throne.
It's the best throne. You wouldn't believe it. The people who made it, they're top people.
And it's better than Obama's throne.
I have this dreadful feeling that the 2020 Democratic primary will become a repugnant clown car of political opportunists that kneecaps any enthusiasm for the eventual Democratic nominee.
You know what, even with the given situation, I shouldn't be such a pessimist. Worse comes to worst, I can always become an alcoholic.
Clown car is utterly unimportant. This season proves that anyone can win the election. Trump was a terrible candidate. All we need is any white dude, ideally someone with a good speaking voice and a very short political history. Ideally also handsome.
Yes, I no longer give a crap how good a president they will be. Well just make sure they appoint a strong cabinet.
As for tomorrow, I'm sure it will be a firm statement like this.
Trump knew
Trump was the intended beneficiary
Here is oceans of proof
Russia has attacked us
Vote was legal
Trump is president
Trump should punish Russia for their actions
Ciao
This is a strategy which works on republicans not democrats. Not on that scale.
There is no Democratic Trump. Never will be.
I don't think you realise how weird Trump is as a candidate. It's going to be next to impossible finding the next obama while it is impossible to find our own Trump.
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I am by no means an expert, but that sounds ethically if not legally dubious...
Plush ambassadorships (to say, the Cayman Islands, Jamaica, etc) are traded for favors (usually fundraising) all the time. If not explicitly, it is definitely implied.
Right.
Though this seems like a notably stupid spot to waste political clout.
Not having an A-list act at the innaguration would be Trump's first visible failure as President.
It's an inauguration! A continuation of a mostly considered solemn and sacred duty to perform as the leader of the goddamned country. It's not a fucking concert on the Mall in the middle of summer.
ARGH I hate this man so goddamned much.
"i solemnly swear to only uphold the parts of the constitution that I understand and all that other mumbojumbo, let's bring on Scott Baio and Mitt Romney's Dancing Pony!"
I am by no means an expert, but that sounds ethically if not legally dubious...
Plush ambassadorships (to say, the Cayman Islands, Jamaica, etc) are traded for favors (usually fundraising) all the time. If not explicitly, it is definitely implied.
Right.
Though this seems like a notably stupid spot to waste political clout.
Not having an A-list act at the innaguration would be Trump's first visible failure as President.
It's an inauguration! A continuation of a mostly considered solemn and sacred duty to perform as the leader of the goddamned country. It's not a fucking concert on the Mall in the middle of summer.
ARGH I hate this man so goddamned much.
"i solemnly swear to only uphold the parts of the constitution that I understand and all that other mumbojumbo, let's bring on Scott Baio and Mitt Romney's Dancing Pony!"
Obama had a concert two days before the inauguration. Beyonce, Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, among others played. There was a Bruce/Pete Seeger rendition of "This Land Is Your Land" with the subversive verses, which is why I remember it.
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Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Full pardon for Snowden and just let Trump deal with the aftermath there, caught between his Putin-loving fascist bootlicks and the Republican security establishment who want to see Snowden hanging from the end of a rope.
The twist: Snowden was actually deep cover, and has proof of Trump-Putin collusion.
I have a pretty concise theory about this that's getting posted in the conspiracy thread the second he's out of Russia.
I am by no means an expert, but that sounds ethically if not legally dubious...
Plush ambassadorships (to say, the Cayman Islands, Jamaica, etc) are traded for favors (usually fundraising) all the time. If not explicitly, it is definitely implied.
Right.
Though this seems like a notably stupid spot to waste political clout.
Not having an A-list act at the innaguration would be Trump's first visible failure as President.
It's an inauguration! A continuation of a mostly considered solemn and sacred duty to perform as the leader of the goddamned country. It's not a fucking concert on the Mall in the middle of summer.
ARGH I hate this man so goddamned much.
"i solemnly swear to only uphold the parts of the constitution that I understand and all that other mumbojumbo, let's bring on Scott Baio and Mitt Romney's Dancing Pony!"
That's not true, lonelyahava. Romney's not going to loan him Rafalca.
I am by no means an expert, but that sounds ethically if not legally dubious...
Plush ambassadorships (to say, the Cayman Islands, Jamaica, etc) are traded for favors (usually fundraising) all the time. If not explicitly, it is definitely implied.
Right.
Though this seems like a notably stupid spot to waste political clout.
Not having an A-list act at the innaguration would be Trump's first visible failure as President.
It's an inauguration! A continuation of a mostly considered solemn and sacred duty to perform as the leader of the goddamned country. It's not a fucking concert on the Mall in the middle of summer.
ARGH I hate this man so goddamned much.
"i solemnly swear to only uphold the parts of the constitution that I understand and all that other mumbojumbo, let's bring on Scott Baio and Mitt Romney's Dancing Pony!"
Obama had a concert two days before the inauguration. Beyonce, Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, among others played. There was a Bruce/Pete Seeger rendition of "This Land Is Your Land" with the subversive verses, which is why I remember it.
Everyone knows Hollywood leans Democrat.
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I am by no means an expert, but that sounds ethically if not legally dubious...
Plush ambassadorships (to say, the Cayman Islands, Jamaica, etc) are traded for favors (usually fundraising) all the time. If not explicitly, it is definitely implied.
Right.
Though this seems like a notably stupid spot to waste political clout.
Not having an A-list act at the innaguration would be Trump's first visible failure as President.
It's an inauguration! A continuation of a mostly considered solemn and sacred duty to perform as the leader of the goddamned country. It's not a fucking concert on the Mall in the middle of summer.
ARGH I hate this man so goddamned much.
"i solemnly swear to only uphold the parts of the constitution that I understand and all that other mumbojumbo, let's bring on Scott Baio and Mitt Romney's Dancing Pony!"
Obama had a concert two days before the inauguration. Beyonce, Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, among others played. There was a Bruce/Pete Seeger rendition of "This Land Is Your Land" with the subversive verses, which is why I remember it.
Key phrase there.
Before.
Not the day of.
Look, I'm doing my best to not fall into utter despair by trying to not get too worked up about the larger, more pressing threats.
Let me be cranky about the smaller existential ones.
Concentration camps before 2019. Who's taking my bet?
I refuse to acknowledge this possibility.
That hasn't helped much in 2016
I had a series of words that I am not saying on this forum before the word refuse.
Japanese internment was a large enough blemish on our history. I would hope that there are enough people who would not want to see that happen again. Rhetoric is one thing but direct action is something drastic.
Concentration camps before 2019. Who's taking my bet?
I refuse to acknowledge this possibility.
That hasn't helped much in 2016
I had a series of words that I am not saying on this forum before the word refuse.
Japanese internment was a large enough blemish on our history. I would hope that there are enough people who would not want to see that happen again. Rhetoric is one thing but direct action is something drastic.
Didn't one of Trumps people come out and say, "you know, the japanese internment wasn't a terrible idea"?
Concentration camps before 2019. Who's taking my bet?
I refuse to acknowledge this possibility.
That hasn't helped much in 2016
I had a series of words that I am not saying on this forum before the word refuse.
Japanese internment was a large enough blemish on our history. I would hope that there are enough people who would not want to see that happen again. Rhetoric is one thing but direct action is something drastic.
Didn't one of Trumps people come out and say, "you know, the japanese internment wasn't a terrible idea"?
And Megyn Kelly kinda freaked out about that, yeah.
But with useless media and foreign influenced online discourse, public opinion becomes what the loudest trolls say. If you don't change that, much darker times will be upon us all
Concentration camps before 2019. Who's taking my bet?
I refuse to acknowledge this possibility.
That hasn't helped much in 2016
I had a series of words that I am not saying on this forum before the word refuse.
Japanese internment was a large enough blemish on our history. I would hope that there are enough people who would not want to see that happen again. Rhetoric is one thing but direct action is something drastic.
Didn't one of Trumps people come out and say, "you know, the japanese internment wasn't a terrible idea"?
That was Trump.
"You're increasingly being compared to Hitler," ABC News' George Stephanopoulos said during an interview with Trump on "Good Morning America" Tuesday. "Does that give you any pause at all?"
No," Trump responded, "because what I am doing is no different than what FDR -- FDR's solution for Germans, Italians, Japanese, you know, many years ago."
Stephanopoulos jumped in as Trump kept talking: "So you're for internment camps?"
"This is a president who is highly respected by all," Trump said of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. "He did the same thing -- if you look at what he was doing, it was far worse."
"We are now at war," Trump said. "We have a president that doesn't want to say that, but we are now at war."
"I've got to press you on that, sir,"Stephanopoulos said. "So you're praising FDR there, I take it you're praising the setting up of internment camps for Japanese during World War II?"
Trump then rattled off the numbers of some of the presidential proclamations Roosevelt issued "having to do with alien Germans, alien Italians, alien Japanese."
"They went through a whole list of things -- they couldn't go five miles from their homes, they weren't allowed to use radios, flashlights," Trump said. "Take a look at what FDR did many years ago, and he's one of the most highly respected presidents... They named highways after him."
Stephanopoulos responded: "You want to bring back policies like that?"
After a pause, Trump responded: "No, I don't to bring it back, George. At all. I don't like doing it at all. It's a temporary measure until our representatives, many of whom are grossly incompetent, until our representatives can figure out what's going on.
Who the fuck knows, what's definitely certain is whatever he decides it'll be terrible.
I mean - even W. made the right choice every once and a while, or something that had some positive outcomes. Trump seems to be lining up to every bad thing we thought W. was going to be when he made his true colors known.
I have this dreadful feeling that the 2020 Democratic primary will become a repugnant clown car of political opportunists that kneecaps any enthusiasm for the eventual Democratic nominee.
You know what, even with the given situation, I shouldn't be such a pessimist. Worse comes to worst, I can always become an alcoholic.
Clown car is utterly unimportant. This season proves that anyone can win the election. Trump was a terrible candidate. All we need is any white dude, ideally someone with a good speaking voice and a very short political history. Ideally also handsome.
Yes, I no longer give a crap how good a president they will be. Well just make sure they appoint a strong cabinet.
As for tomorrow, I'm sure it will be a firm statement like this.
Trump knew
Trump was the intended beneficiary
Here is oceans of proof
Russia has attacked us
Vote was legal
Trump is president
Trump should punish Russia for their actions
Ciao
This is a strategy which works on republicans not democrats. Not on that scale.
There is no Democratic Trump. Never will be.
I don't think you realise how weird Trump is as a candidate. It's going to be next to impossible finding the next obama while it is impossible to find our own Trump.
That Obama was a good president doesn't mean that he wasn't elected because he has a nice smile.
"Steve, the conference table was only so big, OK?" GOP strategist and Trump adviser Sean Spicer told MSNBC’s Steve Kornacki in an interview.
“This was not an intentional slight ... there was only so many people that can actually sit around a conference table,” Spicer said on MSNBC.
“So the idea that Twitter is that petty that they’re talking about that I, some press flack, has the authority to decide who Donald Trump will meet with is ridiculous."
A transition team official also told Reuters that Twitter was excluded because “they aren't big enough," citing their market capitalization of $13.85 billion.
The next smallest company with a representative in attendance was Space X, whose rough valuation is $15 billion, however their representative — CEO Elon Musk — is also the CEO of Tesla Motors, whose market capitalization is over $30 billion.
Again, that photo raises the question of how the hell can Trump state that passing his business dealings to his children removes any potential conflicts of interest when the three of them are clearly involved in everything he does as president? Excuse the fact that he's their father, the three of them are sat in a room with the President, Vice President and America's largest tech companies. Unless Trump intends to argue the three of them are somehow 'Tech Titans'...
Again, that photo raises the question of how the hell can Trump state that passing his business dealings to his children removes any potential conflicts of interest when the three of them are clearly involved in everything he does as president? Excuse the fact that he's their father, the three of them are sat in a room with the President, Vice President and America's largest tech companies. Unless Trump intends to argue the three of them are somehow 'Tech Titans'...
Well their presence is either an end run around potential conflicts of interest, or it's, "I alone can fix (plus my kids, because I'm an old man way over my head)." Neither is a good look for him politically.
Honestly it's long overdue if you consider the current middle east conflict compared to previous ones like Vietnam. We'd probably be long since pulled out if had been though. And it's probably political suicide to do it.
If his kids got out of their business I'd be perfectly fine with it. Because collectively they are smarter and saner than their dad. Hell Ivanka would probably be a Hillary voter if her dad hadn't won the primary. Gore made it sound very much like she was the one bringing him in to stop the insane EPA appointment her dad ended up making. But as long as he has a stake in the business he's about equally conflicted whether his kids are there or not.
One dumb thing is this is probably going to give congress huge leverage via blackmail. If medicare repeal or such somehow ends up on Trump's desk and he vetos it, he could be looking at impeachment proceedings in short order.
The irony, of course, being that vetoing something is not a crime, and would in this case merely be the reason to impeach him on any of the many others he's committed.
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If his kids got out of their business I'd be perfectly fine with it. Because collectively they are smarter and saner than their dad. Hell Ivanka would probably be a Hillary voter if her dad hadn't won the primary. Gore made it sound very much like she was the one bringing him in to stop the insane EPA appointment her dad ended up making. But as long as he has a stake in the business he's about equally conflicted whether his kids are there or not.
One dumb thing is this is probably going to give congress huge leverage via blackmail. If medicare repeal or such somehow ends up on Trump's desk and he vetos it, he could be looking at impeachment proceedings in short order.
I can't even imagine the shitshow that would result from a Republican congress attempting impeachment and Trump unleashing his flying monkeys in response.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Honestly it's long overdue if you consider the current middle east conflict compared to previous ones like Vietnam. We'd probably be long since pulled out if had been though. And it's probably political suicide to do it.
The draft is not coming back. Untrained grunts are useless in the modern military. We're way past the point where you can throw someone through basic in a month, give em a rifle and point them at the bad guy.
Hell Ivanka would probably be a Hillary voter if her dad hadn't won the primary.
Maybe, but she needn't go that far ideologically to be sane compared to her father. She could be a neocon and arrive at that conclusion. Either way, she's remarkably good at keeping her opinions out of the public eye.
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Honestly it's long overdue if you consider the current middle east conflict compared to previous ones like Vietnam. We'd probably be long since pulled out if had been though. And it's probably political suicide to do it.
The draft is not coming back. Untrained grunts are useless in the modern military. We're way past the point where you can throw someone through basic in a month, give em a rifle and point them at the bad guy.
In a sane world, yes. We no longer live in a sane world, where decisions are made via facts, reason, evidence, and logic. It does not matter if a decision would be terrible at best and catastrophic at worst if the insane people in charge happened to feel like it at the moment.
We have no idea what will happen in the next few years, but there are many, many more ways to do things badly than to do them correctly.
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Obama - "My twelve year mission to study human life on this planet to see if you are ready for integration into the galactic community has come to an end. Unfortunately you have proved yourself to be a crude and brutish people capable of inflicting pain for no purpose and only motivated by greed. As such you have been designated a class zero or toxic intelligence and will be exterminated in three weeks. Obama out!"
Trump - "I told you that birth certificate was a fake! I was right all along!"
Trump has a Golden Throne.
It's the best throne. You wouldn't believe it. The people who made it, they're top people.
And it's better than Obama's throne.
This is a strategy which works on republicans not democrats. Not on that scale.
There is no Democratic Trump. Never will be.
I don't think you realise how weird Trump is as a candidate. It's going to be next to impossible finding the next obama while it is impossible to find our own Trump.
I mean, I'd be alright with that. CA's state government is pretty together these days and it would mean not moving to Florida so--
It's an inauguration! A continuation of a mostly considered solemn and sacred duty to perform as the leader of the goddamned country. It's not a fucking concert on the Mall in the middle of summer.
ARGH I hate this man so goddamned much.
"i solemnly swear to only uphold the parts of the constitution that I understand and all that other mumbojumbo, let's bring on Scott Baio and Mitt Romney's Dancing Pony!"
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Obama had a concert two days before the inauguration. Beyonce, Springsteen, Stevie Wonder, among others played. There was a Bruce/Pete Seeger rendition of "This Land Is Your Land" with the subversive verses, which is why I remember it.
I have a pretty concise theory about this that's getting posted in the conspiracy thread the second he's out of Russia.
That's not true, lonelyahava. Romney's not going to loan him Rafalca.
Everyone knows Hollywood leans Democrat.
Key phrase there.
Before.
Not the day of.
Look, I'm doing my best to not fall into utter despair by trying to not get too worked up about the larger, more pressing threats.
Let me be cranky about the smaller existential ones.
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Concentration camps before 2019. Who's taking my bet?
I refuse to acknowledge this possibility.
That hasn't helped much in 2016
I had a series of words that I am not saying on this forum before the word refuse.
Japanese internment was a large enough blemish on our history. I would hope that there are enough people who would not want to see that happen again. Rhetoric is one thing but direct action is something drastic.
Didn't one of Trumps people come out and say, "you know, the japanese internment wasn't a terrible idea"?
And Megyn Kelly kinda freaked out about that, yeah.
But with useless media and foreign influenced online discourse, public opinion becomes what the loudest trolls say. If you don't change that, much darker times will be upon us all
That was Trump.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/12/08/donald-trump-says-he-is-not-bothered-by-comparisons-to-hitler/?tid=sm_tw&utm_term=.681791a22667
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It's literally the most criticized decision of his entire administration.
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he's gonna bring the draft back isn't he.
Who the fuck knows, what's definitely certain is whatever he decides it'll be terrible.
I mean - even W. made the right choice every once and a while, or something that had some positive outcomes. Trump seems to be lining up to every bad thing we thought W. was going to be when he made his true colors known.
That Obama was a good president doesn't mean that he wasn't elected because he has a nice smile.
I'm taking your bet, and working out steps to GTFO if needed.
You can't give someone a pirate ship in one game, and then take it back in the next game. It's rude.
Well their presence is either an end run around potential conflicts of interest, or it's, "I alone can fix (plus my kids, because I'm an old man way over my head)." Neither is a good look for him politically.
now he's hiring Bolton one of the Neo-Cons biggest cheerleaders
You know how he flies in the face of like all findings of political science? Includes the one where candidates are basically honest about their goals.
Honestly it's long overdue if you consider the current middle east conflict compared to previous ones like Vietnam. We'd probably be long since pulled out if had been though. And it's probably political suicide to do it.
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One dumb thing is this is probably going to give congress huge leverage via blackmail. If medicare repeal or such somehow ends up on Trump's desk and he vetos it, he could be looking at impeachment proceedings in short order.
I can't even imagine the shitshow that would result from a Republican congress attempting impeachment and Trump unleashing his flying monkeys in response.
The draft is not coming back. Untrained grunts are useless in the modern military. We're way past the point where you can throw someone through basic in a month, give em a rifle and point them at the bad guy.
Maybe, but she needn't go that far ideologically to be sane compared to her father. She could be a neocon and arrive at that conclusion. Either way, she's remarkably good at keeping her opinions out of the public eye.
In a sane world, yes. We no longer live in a sane world, where decisions are made via facts, reason, evidence, and logic. It does not matter if a decision would be terrible at best and catastrophic at worst if the insane people in charge happened to feel like it at the moment.
We have no idea what will happen in the next few years, but there are many, many more ways to do things badly than to do them correctly.