I have the opposite opinion- DDS2 showed why Foggy is a shit friend to have in a comic book world. He doesn't want to accept his reality.
Karen was caught in the middle, but moved up, so win there.
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DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
I have the opposite opinion- DDS2 showed why Foggy is a shit friend to have in a comic book world. He doesn't want to accept his reality.
Karen was caught in the middle, but moved up, so win there.
That's not how you spell Matt Murdock.
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Anyone else find it weird to unsettling that Turk is now this funny man criminal who sometimes gets stuff done but is shown to be incompetent other times or just gets punked,
but the motherfucker's entrance was him helping to kidnap women for the sex slave trade then threatening to zap them with a tazer?
DDS2 did a really good job of showing why Matt is one of the shittiest friends in the Marvel U unless you're currently under active ninja attack.
But I can absolutely see how that is also a pacing/execution issue for a television show.
I've said it before but DD S2 was actually pretty solid imo till the third act. Basically when they:
kill the DA and switch over basically completely to the Hand plot and the Punisher ends up on a stupid pointless quest for a new villain they pulled from their asses.
Before that the Hand was weird and mysterious and it worked. Especially since it was mostly a distraction for Matt from the main plot and essentially shows him fucking everything up because he can't let go of his desire to punch people in the face all night long.
DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
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Huh, that Spider-man Homecoming Lego set with the censored minifig has been unveiled. It is a character already shown in the trailer, no big surprise. Weird that they tried hiding it.
Huh, that Spider-man Homecoming Lego set with the censored minifig has been unveiled. It is a character already shown in the trailer, no big surprise. Weird that they tried hiding it.
Turk's always been the idiot punching bag/squealer, even when he gets in with people who are actually competent criminals. The most amazing thing has always been that the underworld hasn't killed him yet. His intro in the Kevin Smith story kind of sums him up perfectly.
DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
It's not like what Foggy and co. were doing wasn't important, too. They are 1) doing their jobs, 2) Matt flaked out on them with no excuses and 3) someone there had to make money for the law firm, Matt can't be DD if he's homeless. They would have understood if he wasn't so bad at communication, especially Foggy.
Foggy was whining for a reason, which was Matt's fault.
DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
Is it? The Hand is something nobody seems to know or care about and that's basically digging big holes right now. Meanwhile the Punisher thing is turning the city into a warzone and his escape from prison had everything on lockdown.
Matt was getting shit all done and flaking on his friends and coworkers despite getting them into that situation in the first place and then continually promising to help them.
Matt wasn't even accomplishing anything by fighting the Hand. He wasn't doing anything to expose them or take down their infrastructure. None of the Hand guys he beat up were arrested. He wasn't stealing their financial records and giving them to law enforcement so their funds can be frozen. Sure, he rescued those kids but he didn't really do anything to their human trafficking operations so they can still kidnap more kids. Plus the Hand got those kids back anyway.
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Can you really blame Foggy, though? Matt convinces him to go in on the case and then basically "pass the ball to me". That was the plan. Foggy executed accordingly; he passed to the empty spot that Matt was supposed to be in.
Can you really blame Foggy, though? Matt convinces him to go in on the case and then basically "pass the ball to me". That was the plan. Foggy executed accordingly; he passed to the empty spot that Matt was supposed to be in.
DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
Is it? The Hand is something nobody seems to know or care about and that's basically digging big holes right now. Meanwhile the Punisher thing is turning the city into a warzone and his escape from prison had everything on lockdown.
Matt was getting shit all done and flaking on his friends and coworkers despite getting them into that situation in the first place and then continually promising to help them.
It kinda is, considering what happened at places like the hospital and prior to that all the people kidnapped for blood rituals and zombification. That it is something no one knows or cares about, that just make them an even bigger threat because it makes it a situation Matt is unlikely to get allies for, even if he could stomach the very real possibility whoever helps him is going to get assassinated, so that's pretty safe to say that he should keep his legal secretary and his partner in law out it if he can help it.
The Hand is the kinda threat that in a city that likes the saying "it never sleeps", things sure get dead quiet on a city block when they start their death squad from the shadows and rooftops. Putting a stop to that is important, even Punisher's bullet addled brain understood that.
DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
Is it? The Hand is something nobody seems to know or care about and that's basically digging big holes right now. Meanwhile the Punisher thing is turning the city into a warzone and his escape from prison had everything on lockdown.
Matt was getting shit all done and flaking on his friends and coworkers despite getting them into that situation in the first place and then continually promising to help them.
It kinda is, considering what happened at places like the hospital and prior to that all the people kidnapped for blood rituals and zombification. That it is something no one knows or cares about, that just make them an even bigger threat because it makes it a situation Matt is unlikely to get allies for, even if he could stomach the very real possibility whoever helps him is going to get assassinated, so that's pretty safe to say that he should keep his legal secretary and his partner in law out it if he can help it.
The Hand is the kinda threat that in a city that likes the saying "it never sleeps", things sure get dead quiet on a city block when they start their death squad from the shadows and rooftops. Putting a stop to that is important, even Punisher's bullet addled brain understood that.
Yet he never explained that to them. Foggy would have understood, they would have had to concoct something plausible to convince Karen.
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Jessica Jones is still a real good series y'all. Rewatched (more listened) to it and besides a slump in third act it's still super enjoyable.
I think I'm warming up to Luke Cage even more than before. I think it's more enjoyable on a rewatch them the first time through where I gave up on episode 6 then took a break and finished it. That final boss costume is still ass though.
DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
Is it? The Hand is something nobody seems to know or care about and that's basically digging big holes right now. Meanwhile the Punisher thing is turning the city into a warzone and his escape from prison had everything on lockdown.
Matt was getting shit all done and flaking on his friends and coworkers despite getting them into that situation in the first place and then continually promising to help them.
It kinda is, considering what happened at places like the hospital and prior to that all the people kidnapped for blood rituals and zombification. That it is something no one knows or cares about, that just make them an even bigger threat because it makes it a situation Matt is unlikely to get allies for, even if he could stomach the very real possibility whoever helps him is going to get assassinated, so that's pretty safe to say that he should keep his legal secretary and his partner in law out it if he can help it.
The Hand is the kinda threat that in a city that likes the saying "it never sleeps", things sure get dead quiet on a city block when they start their death squad from the shadows and rooftops. Putting a stop to that is important, even Punisher's bullet addled brain understood that.
Yet he never explained that to them. Foggy would have understood, they would have had to concoct something plausible to convince Karen.
Even if he's just stopping muggers it's more important then the lawyer stuff. Matt went after the Kingpin and saves lives. Foggy knows this. He's acting like Matt is just beating random people up for funsies or in a fight club or something. Yeah, Matt should have slapped him and explained this flat out since apparently Foggy was being dense for DRAMA, but then we wouldn't have the DRAMA. And something else Foggy overlooks is they were fucked before any this crap started. They we were working for pie.
DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
Is it? The Hand is something nobody seems to know or care about and that's basically digging big holes right now. Meanwhile the Punisher thing is turning the city into a warzone and his escape from prison had everything on lockdown.
Matt was getting shit all done and flaking on his friends and coworkers despite getting them into that situation in the first place and then continually promising to help them.
It kinda is, considering what happened at places like the hospital and prior to that all the people kidnapped for blood rituals and zombification. That it is something no one knows or cares about, that just make them an even bigger threat because it makes it a situation Matt is unlikely to get allies for, even if he could stomach the very real possibility whoever helps him is going to get assassinated, so that's pretty safe to say that he should keep his legal secretary and his partner in law out it if he can help it.
The Hand is the kinda threat that in a city that likes the saying "it never sleeps", things sure get dead quiet on a city block when they start their death squad from the shadows and rooftops. Putting a stop to that is important, even Punisher's bullet addled brain understood that.
Yet he never explained that to them. Foggy would have understood, they would have had to concoct something plausible to convince Karen.
Even if he's just stopping muggers it's more important then the lawyer stuff. Matt went after the Kingpin and saves lives. Foggy knows this. He's acting like Matt is just beating random people up for funsies or in a fight club or something. Yeah, Matt should have slapped him and explained this flat out since apparently Foggy was being dense for DRAMA, but then we wouldn't have the DRAMA. And something else Foggy overlooks is they were fucked before any this crap started. They we were working for pie.
Except Matt doesn't even believe he's doing anything super important at the time, let alone bothers to explain it to Foggy. He's rolling his eyes about the Hand most of the time and only at the very end starts to take them seriously. Foggy isn't being dense, he's being entirely reasonable, especially given the information he actually has.
Matt doesn't fuck everything up because "OMG, the Hand must be stopped or they will kill us all!". He does it because he wants to run around with Elektra beating people up. It's only long after he's imploded his relationships and his legal firm that he realizes the Hand might be a real problem.
His legal firm was imploded when the season started as I pointed out. He had nothing to do with that. So right off the bat the worse he can be accused of his not it making better. And what did he do? Not show up later? So he's a flake. If Foggy could step up it wouldn't be such an issue. That's not entirely on him, but again, it doesn't matter if Matt is only doing it because he wants to beat people up. The fact is he SAVES LIVES. If he gets a kick out of beating people up it's just a bonus for him and everyone's but Foggy's good luck he does.
Matt doesn't buy into the ancient evil magic ninja stuff. He totally buys they are Bad People doing Bad Things. I mean, he's encountered them before. His biggest sin is keeping quiet because of Elektra.
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Matt's night job of punching mans is arguably a net good, sure. The problem is that his day job involves people relying on him too. It's not just Karen and Foggy he's letting down, but their clients too. And he is really letting Karen and Foggy down.
The first episode has Karen drop the news that they are financially fucked, and need money now. Matt's response is "we'll manage. I don't know how, but we will."
And we see how Matt manages; by bailing and leaving it for the other two to fix. And he makes it worse by pressuring them into taking that one case, representing a very public and unapologetic mass murderer, with the DA saying this makes them enemies fo life, and then he doesn't participate in that fucking trial.
If we're ordering pizza and everyone else wants pepperoni, but I want prosciutto even tho the pizza guy doesn't have that on the menu, and then when it arrives I don't pay for it or even eat any, and then I go get KFC with a beautiful ninja, that is a dick move.
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Also, as lawyers, there is probably something inherently unsettling about vigilante justice. At least, there should be.
DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
Is it? The Hand is something nobody seems to know or care about and that's basically digging big holes right now. Meanwhile the Punisher thing is turning the city into a warzone and his escape from prison had everything on lockdown.
Matt was getting shit all done and flaking on his friends and coworkers despite getting them into that situation in the first place and then continually promising to help them.
It kinda is, considering what happened at places like the hospital and prior to that all the people kidnapped for blood rituals and zombification. That it is something no one knows or cares about, that just make them an even bigger threat because it makes it a situation Matt is unlikely to get allies for, even if he could stomach the very real possibility whoever helps him is going to get assassinated, so that's pretty safe to say that he should keep his legal secretary and his partner in law out it if he can help it.
The Hand is the kinda threat that in a city that likes the saying "it never sleeps", things sure get dead quiet on a city block when they start their death squad from the shadows and rooftops. Putting a stop to that is important, even Punisher's bullet addled brain understood that.
Yet he never explained that to them. Foggy would have understood, they would have had to concoct something plausible to convince Karen.
Even if he's just stopping muggers it's more important then the lawyer stuff. Matt went after the Kingpin and saves lives. Foggy knows this. He's acting like Matt is just beating random people up for funsies or in a fight club or something. Yeah, Matt should have slapped him and explained this flat out since apparently Foggy was being dense for DRAMA, but then we wouldn't have the DRAMA. And something else Foggy overlooks is they were fucked before any this crap started. They we were working for pie.
Matt didn't take down Kingpin by himself, he needed the entire group + the press + FBI to do this.
Matt needn't have slapped Foggy before explaining his situation, he's not a barbarian. Foggy isn't being dense, he's acting like a normal person when he's getting ditched by his superior partner in the biggest case in their careers since Kingpin.
There's nothing to overlook on Foggy's side when Matt refuses to explain he's dealing with a Kingpin-like case, the whole reason this went pear shaped is because he deliberately cut off his support from his friends to take on the Hand with Elektra. If he did that shit in S1 the Kingpin would still be free and running the city.
This was a case where they could set themselves up as big time lawyers, they weren't doing this for a random lady who was mugged for literal peanuts.
His legal firm was imploded when the season started as I pointed out. He had nothing to do with that. So right off the bat the worse he can be accused of his not it making better. And what did he do? Not show up later? So he's a flake. If Foggy could step up it wouldn't be such an issue. That's not entirely on him, but again, it doesn't matter if Matt is only doing it because he wants to beat people up. The fact is he SAVES LIVES. If he gets a kick out of beating people up it's just a bonus for him and everyone's but Foggy's good luck he does.
Matt doesn't buy into the ancient evil magic ninja stuff. He totally buys they are Bad People doing Bad Things. I mean, he's encountered them before. His biggest sin is keeping quiet because of Elektra.
Actually, the legal firm imploded at then of the season when he quit. He did a poor job keeping it together and flat out destroyed it to play super-hero 24/7. This isn't entirely Foggy's fault, and Foggy had less responsibility for this.
Matt being a flake at his job was a massive deal, he's not a greeter at a local Target he's their firm's best lawyer, he convinced the firm to take the Punisher case and yeah, Foggy stepped up but they're supposed to be a team. All this was fucking over Frank, his supposed friend and ally, too. When he actually did something he ended up screwing up the case, so he'd worse than flake.
Saving lives isn't a get of jail free card for destroying friendships, lives and their law firm. Especially when he fails to tell the people in the know what he's doing. He doesn't have to buy into the ancient magic stuff to convince Foggy the Hand are bad news worthy of the Kingpin.
This is entirely on him.
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DDS2 just made everyone look awful. Yeah, Matt looked horrible for consistently bailing on his friends to fight ninjas, but Matt's friends were also pretty shitty for always being on his case while he was busy trying to keep the city from getting melted. The case was super-important to the people in Matt's life, but pretty insignificant compared to protecting the city.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
Is it? The Hand is something nobody seems to know or care about and that's basically digging big holes right now. Meanwhile the Punisher thing is turning the city into a warzone and his escape from prison had everything on lockdown.
Matt was getting shit all done and flaking on his friends and coworkers despite getting them into that situation in the first place and then continually promising to help them.
It kinda is, considering what happened at places like the hospital and prior to that all the people kidnapped for blood rituals and zombification. That it is something no one knows or cares about, that just make them an even bigger threat because it makes it a situation Matt is unlikely to get allies for, even if he could stomach the very real possibility whoever helps him is going to get assassinated, so that's pretty safe to say that he should keep his legal secretary and his partner in law out it if he can help it.
The Hand is the kinda threat that in a city that likes the saying "it never sleeps", things sure get dead quiet on a city block when they start their death squad from the shadows and rooftops. Putting a stop to that is important, even Punisher's bullet addled brain understood that.
Yet he never explained that to them. Foggy would have understood, they would have had to concoct something plausible to convince Karen.
Even if he's just stopping muggers it's more important then the lawyer stuff. Matt went after the Kingpin and saves lives. Foggy knows this. He's acting like Matt is just beating random people up for funsies or in a fight club or something. Yeah, Matt should have slapped him and explained this flat out since apparently Foggy was being dense for DRAMA, but then we wouldn't have the DRAMA. And something else Foggy overlooks is they were fucked before any this crap started. They we were working for pie.
They were working for pie because Matt convinced Foggy they should start their own practice right as they were about to make Partner. Then Matt decided to be a vigilante without telling Foggy, torpedoing his ability to be an effective lawyer.
James Gunn, the man behind the movie iteration of Guardians of the Galaxy—and who may one day win an award for being the man most in love with his job, social media, and talking about his job on social media—has announced that he’ll be back for a third Guardians movie.
Gunn made the announcement on his Facebook page, where he goes into detail about the decision and what the press leading up to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 has been like. But in it he says, “So, yes, I’m returning to write and direct Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3.”
Obviously, there are not a lot of details, but Gunn did give some time frame information, saying:
Much of what’s happened in the MCU for the past ten or so years has been leading, in a big way, to the Avengers’ Infinity War. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 will happen after all that. It will conclude the story of this iteration of the Guardians of the Galaxy, and help catapult both old and new Marvel characters into the next ten years and beyond.
There’s not a ton of information here, despite the volume of words, but it seems like Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 will be coming right on the heels of Infinity War. Now, while Gunn says “Infinity War” in his post, I think he means the second movie (previously known as Infinity War Part 2). Captain Marvel and Ant-Man and the Wasp are already slated to go between those, and there isn’t a ton of room for another movie. Plus, he says it will “catapult” things, which sounds like Guardians 3 will launch Phase 4 after that movie comes out in 2019.
This is a good news, but we still have a while to wait before the next movie. And it also sounds like we should be prepping for a whole new team to emerge after that third movie—which seems about right for most of these contracts, with everyone slated to appear in the Guardians movies and Infinity War.
Feel free to speculate wildly—or just loudly suggest—team members for the movie to add.
It would take a horrendous catastrophe with Vol 2 for this not to be a guaranteed purchase for me. I'm talking (BvS*SS)^3 level bad.
Been a big fan of Gunn's writing for a long time. If people haven't seen it, I highly recommend "The Specials" (2000). Gunn wrote and had a mid-sized role in it as the Minute Man. And while there's literally bugger all action (which is the point, it's about a superhero group on their day off), it's incredibly funny in an understated way. With a great cast (Thomas Haden Church, Rob Lowe, and a crapload of others), and the list of cameos, or actors that went on to be big is extensive.
If it wasn't for Mystery Men being released a year earlier, it might have got more play. I consider The Specials to be the superior movie.
You don't have to have only one universe to play in.
Yeah, but kids fixate. I'm definitely not going to only put one out there. We'll see what takes. There's still a couple years before that ask happens, though.
My main point is that even without a star wars resurgence, they'd still have a cool space opera to sort of grow up alongside.
Most of it, sure, but some of it is off the charts crazy town. You really think GotG has what it takes to take on Jedi/Sith/Planet Busting Weapon Platforms?
I mean, this is before watching GotG2, maybe in that they take on that rogue sentient planet or Galacticus and win? Don't think that is in the trailer(s) but I suppose the Marvel comic-verse does have a few things that could give Luke/Darth Vader/Deathstar v3.0 pause.
I'm interested to see how you back that statement up, though a PM may be more appropriate given the thread
Most of it, sure, but some of it is off the charts crazy town. You really think GotG has what it takes to take on Jedi/Sith/Planet Busting Weapon Platforms?
I mean, this is before watching GotG2, maybe in that they take on that rogue sentient planet or Galacticus and win? Don't think that is in the trailer(s) but I suppose the Marvel comic-verse does have a few things that could give Luke/Darth Vader/Deathstar v3.0 pause.
I'm interested to see how you back that statement up, though a PM may be more appropriate given the thread
They already did in the first film. Ronan was a bad Sith who decided he wanted to Death Star up close and personal like. Because he made Sidious look sane.
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Jack Flag alone can kick Han Solo and Luke Skywalker's ass together at the same time.
The force is just some weak ass telekinesis/telepathy knockoff, it's like bad copy of the Inhumans which are already a bad copy of the X-Men.
Rocket could kick Yoda's ass all day erry day.
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Karen was caught in the middle, but moved up, so win there.
It didn't make Matt crappy for prioritizing the ninja threat over one legal trial for one man (though letting his life, and his friends lives, go to shit by following Elektra around made him pretty crappy), but neither was the Murdock Gang great for just irrationally refusing that Matt was in a bigger fight than a courtroom deal.
Loved having the Punisher in the mix, but the trial should've had like 10% of the time it got, and the rest of the time should've gone over to things that were, well, worth something.
That's not how you spell Matt Murdock.
but the motherfucker's entrance was him helping to kidnap women for the sex slave trade then threatening to zap them with a tazer?
I've said it before but DD S2 was actually pretty solid imo till the third act. Basically when they:
Before that the Hand was weird and mysterious and it worked. Especially since it was mostly a distraction for Matt from the main plot and essentially shows him fucking everything up because he can't let go of his desire to punch people in the face all night long.
But Matt isn't doing much important it seems to anyone but him. Even he just rolls his eyes at Stick going on and on about the Hand. The only thing he's prioritising is spending time with Elektra beating people up because he really likes doing that and his obsession with it and her fucks up his whole life.
Hey, it could have been
Even if that's the case for Matt it's STILL more important than anything the lawyers are doing in the show. In universe the Punisher and Daredevil get shit done while Foggy whines.
It's not like what Foggy and co. were doing wasn't important, too. They are 1) doing their jobs, 2) Matt flaked out on them with no excuses and 3) someone there had to make money for the law firm, Matt can't be DD if he's homeless. They would have understood if he wasn't so bad at communication, especially Foggy.
Foggy was whining for a reason, which was Matt's fault.
Is it? The Hand is something nobody seems to know or care about and that's basically digging big holes right now. Meanwhile the Punisher thing is turning the city into a warzone and his escape from prison had everything on lockdown.
Matt was getting shit all done and flaking on his friends and coworkers despite getting them into that situation in the first place and then continually promising to help them.
And whenever Matt did help he made things worse.
It kinda is, considering what happened at places like the hospital and prior to that all the people kidnapped for blood rituals and zombification. That it is something no one knows or cares about, that just make them an even bigger threat because it makes it a situation Matt is unlikely to get allies for, even if he could stomach the very real possibility whoever helps him is going to get assassinated, so that's pretty safe to say that he should keep his legal secretary and his partner in law out it if he can help it.
The Hand is the kinda threat that in a city that likes the saying "it never sleeps", things sure get dead quiet on a city block when they start their death squad from the shadows and rooftops. Putting a stop to that is important, even Punisher's bullet addled brain understood that.
Yet he never explained that to them. Foggy would have understood, they would have had to concoct something plausible to convince Karen.
I think I'm warming up to Luke Cage even more than before. I think it's more enjoyable on a rewatch them the first time through where I gave up on episode 6 then took a break and finished it. That final boss costume is still ass though.
Maybe it's time to give Iron Fist another go
Even if he's just stopping muggers it's more important then the lawyer stuff. Matt went after the Kingpin and saves lives. Foggy knows this. He's acting like Matt is just beating random people up for funsies or in a fight club or something. Yeah, Matt should have slapped him and explained this flat out since apparently Foggy was being dense for DRAMA, but then we wouldn't have the DRAMA. And something else Foggy overlooks is they were fucked before any this crap started. They we were working for pie.
Except Matt doesn't even believe he's doing anything super important at the time, let alone bothers to explain it to Foggy. He's rolling his eyes about the Hand most of the time and only at the very end starts to take them seriously. Foggy isn't being dense, he's being entirely reasonable, especially given the information he actually has.
Matt doesn't fuck everything up because "OMG, the Hand must be stopped or they will kill us all!". He does it because he wants to run around with Elektra beating people up. It's only long after he's imploded his relationships and his legal firm that he realizes the Hand might be a real problem.
Matt doesn't buy into the ancient evil magic ninja stuff. He totally buys they are Bad People doing Bad Things. I mean, he's encountered them before. His biggest sin is keeping quiet because of Elektra.
The first episode has Karen drop the news that they are financially fucked, and need money now. Matt's response is "we'll manage. I don't know how, but we will."
And we see how Matt manages; by bailing and leaving it for the other two to fix. And he makes it worse by pressuring them into taking that one case, representing a very public and unapologetic mass murderer, with the DA saying this makes them enemies fo life, and then he doesn't participate in that fucking trial.
If we're ordering pizza and everyone else wants pepperoni, but I want prosciutto even tho the pizza guy doesn't have that on the menu, and then when it arrives I don't pay for it or even eat any, and then I go get KFC with a beautiful ninja, that is a dick move.
Matt didn't take down Kingpin by himself, he needed the entire group + the press + FBI to do this.
Matt needn't have slapped Foggy before explaining his situation, he's not a barbarian. Foggy isn't being dense, he's acting like a normal person when he's getting ditched by his superior partner in the biggest case in their careers since Kingpin.
There's nothing to overlook on Foggy's side when Matt refuses to explain he's dealing with a Kingpin-like case, the whole reason this went pear shaped is because he deliberately cut off his support from his friends to take on the Hand with Elektra. If he did that shit in S1 the Kingpin would still be free and running the city.
This was a case where they could set themselves up as big time lawyers, they weren't doing this for a random lady who was mugged for literal peanuts.
Actually, the legal firm imploded at then of the season when he quit. He did a poor job keeping it together and flat out destroyed it to play super-hero 24/7. This isn't entirely Foggy's fault, and Foggy had less responsibility for this.
Matt being a flake at his job was a massive deal, he's not a greeter at a local Target he's their firm's best lawyer, he convinced the firm to take the Punisher case and yeah, Foggy stepped up but they're supposed to be a team. All this was fucking over Frank, his supposed friend and ally, too. When he actually did something he ended up screwing up the case, so he'd worse than flake.
Saving lives isn't a get of jail free card for destroying friendships, lives and their law firm. Especially when he fails to tell the people in the know what he's doing. He doesn't have to buy into the ancient magic stuff to convince Foggy the Hand are bad news worthy of the Kingpin.
This is entirely on him.
They were working for pie because Matt convinced Foggy they should start their own practice right as they were about to make Partner. Then Matt decided to be a vigilante without telling Foggy, torpedoing his ability to be an effective lawyer.
Matt is a good hero, but a terrible friend.
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It would take a horrendous catastrophe with Vol 2 for this not to be a guaranteed purchase for me. I'm talking (BvS*SS)^3 level bad.
Been a big fan of Gunn's writing for a long time. If people haven't seen it, I highly recommend "The Specials" (2000). Gunn wrote and had a mid-sized role in it as the Minute Man. And while there's literally bugger all action (which is the point, it's about a superhero group on their day off), it's incredibly funny in an understated way. With a great cast (Thomas Haden Church, Rob Lowe, and a crapload of others), and the list of cameos, or actors that went on to be big is extensive.
If it wasn't for Mystery Men being released a year earlier, it might have got more play. I consider The Specials to be the superior movie.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Yeah, but kids fixate. I'm definitely not going to only put one out there. We'll see what takes. There's still a couple years before that ask happens, though.
My main point is that even without a star wars resurgence, they'd still have a cool space opera to sort of grow up alongside.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Totally... the kids.
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Most of it, sure, but some of it is off the charts crazy town. You really think GotG has what it takes to take on Jedi/Sith/Planet Busting Weapon Platforms?
I mean, this is before watching GotG2, maybe in that they take on that rogue sentient planet or Galacticus and win? Don't think that is in the trailer(s) but I suppose the Marvel comic-verse does have a few things that could give Luke/Darth Vader/Deathstar v3.0 pause.
I'm interested to see how you back that statement up, though a PM may be more appropriate given the thread
They already did in the first film. Ronan was a bad Sith who decided he wanted to Death Star up close and personal like. Because he made Sidious look sane.
The force is just some weak ass telekinesis/telepathy knockoff, it's like bad copy of the Inhumans which are already a bad copy of the X-Men.
Rocket could kick Yoda's ass all day erry day.
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