I was in the middle of a long call at work and my nose just started geysering blood out. I'm not allowed to drop a call for any reason, so I had to shove a Purell wipe up my nose to staunch the incarnadine tide (we don't have any Kleenex for whatever reason???). It burned like hell, smelled like cheap vodka, and made me talk like Steve Urkel. I'm mad I had no other options at all.
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You can't drop a call for any reason? Asshats.
I bet you'd probably get into trouble if you hung up on a customer when the fire alarm went off.
I feel like even if I wasn't British I'd celebrate Guy Fawkes night because I feel that the general thrust of the event (blowing up Parliament) is something that we shouldn't forget
I just googled sexy Guy Fawkes costume and there's a sexy lady V for Vendetta costume so I guess I've found why the terrorists hate us and our Western decadence, really
I feel like even if I wasn't British I'd celebrate Guy Fawkes night because I feel that the general thrust of the event (blowing up Parliament) is something that we shouldn't forget
You know, keep the buggers on their toes
He was a monarchist, though.
The "celebrate Guy Fawkes by ignoring that he wanted to instill a monarchy" already exists, it's just on 4Chan and with a bunch of kids who have only ever heard of him via V for Vendetta.
Sometimes I wonder what it must be like learning history in school in Europe and other places.
In America we started basically right at or just before the Revolutionary War era, skipping large sections about early colonialism here. I mean they taught us about that monster Columbus sailing the ocean blue. Then Thanksgiving. Then a bit of the French and Indian wars. Then bam 1776. It's like the earlier stuff just got fast forwarded to get to the USA forming.
But like... Where do you start in the UK for example? Roman times? 1066? 1215?
double edit: originally I made a crack about skipping all of US history, but that's not really true. We just didn't learn much about what happened between Columbus and WWI. The UK might get a bit more, what with the whole King George and revolution thing.
My geography teacher came from Chile, which led to a fairly thorough education on the Mayan, Incan and Aztec civilisations, but ended with "And then the Spanish came and everything went to shit."
Sometimes I wonder what it must be like learning history in school in Europe and other places.
In America we started basically right at or just before the Revolutionary War era, skipping large sections about early colonialism here. I mean they taught us about that monster Columbus sailing the ocean blue. Then Thanksgiving. Then a bit of the French and Indian wars. Then bam 1776. It's like the earlier stuff just got fast forwarded to get to the USA forming.
But like... Where do you start in the UK for example? Roman times? 1066? 1215?
we tend to skip most anything involving America, if that helps.
I figured as much!
We do much of the same, IMO.
Social Studies class smoothed out so much of the rough edges that make history interesting to me.
Sometimes I wonder what it must be like learning history in school in Europe and other places.
In America we started basically right at or just before the Revolutionary War era, skipping large sections about early colonialism here. I mean they taught us about that monster Columbus sailing the ocean blue. Then Thanksgiving. Then a bit of the French and Indian wars. Then bam 1776. It's like the earlier stuff just got fast forwarded to get to the USA forming.
But like... Where do you start in the UK for example? Roman times? 1066? 1215?
Wait..
... What?
We had US history, sure, and it dealt with early colonization and all of that.
And we (my school) also had normal history where you start in Egypt and make your way through all the points in history. 4th and 5th grade dealt with the key points like you had with early US history and 1776, 6th grade was the start of global history up until 10th grade, then in 11th grade we revisited US history again, and in 12th grade we had Economics and PIG (participation in government) where we learned the ins and outs of our congress.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
Sometimes I wonder what it must be like learning history in school in Europe and other places.
In America we started basically right at or just before the Revolutionary War era, skipping large sections about early colonialism here. I mean they taught us about that monster Columbus sailing the ocean blue. Then Thanksgiving. Then a bit of the French and Indian wars. Then bam 1776. It's like the earlier stuff just got fast forwarded to get to the USA forming.
But like... Where do you start in the UK for example? Roman times? 1066? 1215?
Wait..
... What?
We had US history, sure, and it dealt with early colonization and all of that.
And we (my school) also had normal history where you start in Egypt and make your way through all the points in history. 4th and 5th grade dealt with the key points like you had with early US history and 1776, 6th grade was the start of global history up until 10th grade, then in 11th grade we revisited US history again, and in 12th grade we had Economics and PIG (participation in government) where we learned the ins and outs of our congress.
It might be I missed most of the good stuff because of my anxiety around school at that point! So I'm mostly talking about how we started out between 1st and 5th grade. I'm certain they would have went into more interesting stuff later but like I just don't have that experience because I hardly went.
Sometimes I wonder what it must be like learning history in school in Europe and other places.
In America we started basically right at or just before the Revolutionary War era, skipping large sections about early colonialism here. I mean they taught us about that monster Columbus sailing the ocean blue. Then Thanksgiving. Then a bit of the French and Indian wars. Then bam 1776. It's like the earlier stuff just got fast forwarded to get to the USA forming.
But like... Where do you start in the UK for example? Roman times? 1066? 1215?
Wait..
... What?
We had US history, sure, and it dealt with early colonization and all of that.
And we (my school) also had normal history where you start in Egypt and make your way through all the points in history. 4th and 5th grade dealt with the key points like you had with early US history and 1776, 6th grade was the start of global history up until 10th grade, then in 11th grade we revisited US history again, and in 12th grade we had Economics and PIG (participation in government) where we learned the ins and outs of our congress.
It might be I missed most of the good stuff because of my anxiety around school at that point!
Probably relies heavily on where you're from too. Upstate NY has really excellent schools in general (outside of the cities).
If you grew up in like.. the deep backwaters of Missouri... maybe not so much.
6th grade was early Africa and Mesopotamian cultures
7th grade was Meso and South American, later half dealt with imperialism of the British Empire
8th grade was Roman empire related history (and all the cultures going on like China and that), with the later half being 1800 America
9th grade was a heavy focus on medieval Europe (fall of the Roman Empire and the dark ages) and the renaissance
FAST FORWARD 10th grade was WW1 and WW2 history and the early 1900s
11th grade was a deep look into US history
I'm probably a bit off here and there, and I'm sure I'm forgetting like a good chunk of some of them (we didn't go too deep into India and southeast asia, or a lot of the african areas)
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I'm even more sad that I basically stopped going to school in 7th grade now.
I've done a lot of self study about the very basics of world history and stuff since then, because it's fascinating to me, but It would be cool to have actual schooling on it.
Unless you get a very good teacher, history is one of those things that you can learn as well or perhaps even better on your own, by reading widely. So I wouldn't feel too bad about it.
Unless you get a very good teacher, history is one of those things that you can learn as well or perhaps even better on your own, by reading widely. So I wouldn't feel too bad about it.
Or when you like, open up wikipedia to get info on something you're working on and whoops it's 8 hours later and now you're reading about the Roman Legion.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I just finished re-listening to the audiobook of Sarah Vowel's Lafayette in the Somewhat United States so that's what got me thinking about history today.
Granted it's not hard to get my thinking about history, I particularly like her books for example, I have listened to the four of them I own a couple times each now. I think Wordy Shipmates is actually my favorite.
Also the history of Rome podcast was good, but I fell off of listening to the Revolutions one toward the middle of the Haitian Revolution.
I should probably get more history books since I always seem to enjoy them.
Sometimes I wonder what it must be like learning history in school in Europe and other places.
In America we started basically right at or just before the Revolutionary War era, skipping large sections about early colonialism here. I mean they taught us about that monster Columbus sailing the ocean blue. Then Thanksgiving. Then a bit of the French and Indian wars. Then bam 1776. It's like the earlier stuff just got fast forwarded to get to the USA forming.
But like... Where do you start in the UK for example? Roman times? 1066? 1215?
Wait..
... What?
We had US history, sure, and it dealt with early colonization and all of that.
And we (my school) also had normal history where you start in Egypt and make your way through all the points in history. 4th and 5th grade dealt with the key points like you had with early US history and 1776, 6th grade was the start of global history up until 10th grade, then in 11th grade we revisited US history again, and in 12th grade we had Economics and PIG (participation in government) where we learned the ins and outs of our congress.
It might be I missed most of the good stuff because of my anxiety around school at that point! So I'm mostly talking about how we started out between 1st and 5th grade. I'm certain they would have went into more interesting stuff later but like I just don't have that experience because I hardly went.
Your depiction of grade school history classes is pretty much on par with my experience in the US as well. Any classes that started before colonization or included anything outside of the US's direct involvement were few and far between and limited to very brief survey classes that ended up being not really informative or factually correct.
The one World History class was basically "These countries exist, and here's a bunch of stereotypical 'facts' about them". IIRC, the one slide on Ireland depicted children dancing in kilts and didn't even mention the, at the time pre-Good Friday Agreement, conflict with England.
Geography was less about nations than about trying to pack peoples into regional stereotypes.
Like, I finally got the chance to take AP courses later on and got to take European History 1 and Comparative Government classes, but those were also relatively minor.
My experience with the grade school US history curriculum has taught me that you'd learn more about the US from just watching every Ken Burns documentary and Crash Course US History, and more about the rest of the world from watching Crash Course World History on Youtube and PBS documentaries.
But apparently it does vary widely by state. I've heard that in upstate New York you learn actually learn a small bit about the Iroquois Confederation in their state history classes. In Texas there's basically no mention of the plains indians in the history because everything about Texas in US or state history is framed entirely around the US, Spain, and Mexico.
US history in school before college was also heavily whitewashed of things like genocide, racism, and feminism when I attended. Like, we learned about the civil rights movement but in the sense of "and these people were a little irritated at segregation" sort of thing.
Oh yeah we spend a bit going over the Iroquois, but we talk about a lot of the first nations too. Probably not more than a month though. I think it was touched on in the 7th grade one. We went over the First Nations, Navajo, Seminole, Sioux, and the Comanche.
not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
But I can't put them in good places because of cats.
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New Mexico state history class was interesting. Since the Pueblo Indians played such an important role in Spanish New Mexico, and because most of the Pueblo reservations were established on the same land they'd inhabited since before the Columbian exchange, we got a lot more native history than most states. Plus, since Santa Fe is the oldest capital in the United States, there was a whole lot of history to cover. Like, we had to start with the Ancestral Puebloans and then the Spanish were already wrecking shit and building missions by 1540, and the Pueblo Revolt happened in 1680.
Do you know how many Spanish, Mexican, and American governors there were who might show up on a test? A buttload, and the only one I can ever remember is Albino Perez. Because A. his name was "Albino" and B. he was beheaded during yet another uprising and some accounts have the rebels playing soccer with his head in the plaza before placing it on public display.
It's that kind of little historic detail that really captures the imagination of your average seventh grader.
But I can't put them in good places because of cats.
Both ants and cats hate cinnamon
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JedocIn the scupperswith the staggers and jagsRegistered Userregular
Check your label, but most bait stations for ants are perfectly safe for children and pets. The most common active ingredient is borax, which has a lethal dose similar to salt. It's so safe to eat that people use it as a dietary supplement, although I wouldn't recommend it as it can cause nausea and has no proven positive effects.
It kills insects by being abrasive, and their little innards are tiny and delicate enough that it's like putting fragments of glass in their food. Vertebrates are big and tough enough that it doesn't damage our digestive tract in the same way.
I just finished re-listening to the audiobook of Sarah Vowel's Lafayette in the Somewhat United States so that's what got me thinking about history today.
Granted it's not hard to get my thinking about history, I particularly like her books for example, I have listened to the four of them I own a couple times each now. I think Wordy Shipmates is actually my favorite.
Also the history of Rome podcast was good, but I fell off of listening to the Revolutions one toward the middle of the Haitian Revolution.
I should probably get more history books since I always seem to enjoy them.
The Haitian Revolution was just so depressing, I almost gave up listening to it.
In case you're interested, he's finished the South American Revolution, and France's 6 day revolution, as well as some supplemental revolutions, including the Les Miserables one.
LIST OF WHITE EXPLORERS SO BRAVE GOING PLACES WHERE NO MAN HAD EVER GONE
CONFEDERATION
THE CANADIAN PACIFIC RAILROAD WAS BUILT SOME ATROCITIES MAY HAVE OCCURRED DURING ITS CONSTRUCTION
AND EVERYONE LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER
OH WAIT, THE AVRO ARROW
Most of my Canadian History in Manitoba was
LIST OF WHITE EXPLORERS SO BRAVE GOING PLACES WHERE NO MAN HAD EVER GONE
CONFEDERATION
WHITE ANGLOS THREATENED TO CRUSH METIS CULTURE
LOUIS RIEL STARTS REBELLION
THE CANADIAN PACIFIC RAILROAD WAS BUILT ALLOWING ANGLO TROOPS TO QUICKLY BE TRANSPORTED TO THE RED RIVER AREA
LOUIS RIEL FLEES TO AMERICA
LOUIS RIEL RETURNS, CLAIMING HE IS THE SON OF GOD
LOUIS RIEL IS ARRESTED
LOUIS RIEL IS HUNG, FUCK JOHN A. MACDONALD
THE METIS ARE STILL HERE, FUCKERS.
I didn't bother trying to learn Canadian history while I was in Quebec. It would have been like
"Hey, what's the history of Canada?"
*long drag on cigarette*
"I don' know. I never been"
Oh yeah we spend a bit going over the Iroquois, but we talk about a lot of the first nations too. Probably not more than a month though. I think it was touched on in the 7th grade one. We went over the First Nations, Navajo, Seminole, Sioux, and the Comanche.
I think there was a picture of a native american once, off to the side in a painting about the end of the French and Indian war.
Check your label, but most bait stations for ants are perfectly safe for children and pets. The most common active ingredient is borax, which has a lethal dose similar to salt. It's so safe to eat that people use it as a dietary supplement, although I wouldn't recommend it as it can cause nausea and has no proven positive effects.
It kills insects by being abrasive, and their little innards are tiny and delicate enough that it's like putting fragments of glass in their food. Vertebrates are big and tough enough that it doesn't damage our digestive tract in the same way.
I have a line of borax around the perimeter of my porch for this reason. Sprinkling it in the carpet is also a good way to deal with flea infestations.
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The only way this could be worse is if I had asthma.
Down here you can only buy fireworks for the three days leading up to Guy Fawkes day. So the beginning of November.
Most people will buy a metric ton of fireworks and then shoot them off pretty much every night from Guy Fawkes until after New years.
They also tend to keep some around for big rugby games. Or the end of university term. Or Tuesday.
It's.... Frustrating.
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I bet you'd probably get into trouble if you hung up on a customer when the fire alarm went off.
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Australia doesn't know shit about Guy Fawkes. My parents told me about it when I was a kid.
Loud bass rumble all day fireworks all night!
Not to my knowledge!
I guess anti Catholic sentiment burns bright down in middle Earth
You know, keep the buggers on their toes
Guy fucks day?
He was a monarchist, though.
The "celebrate Guy Fawkes by ignoring that he wanted to instill a monarchy" already exists, it's just on 4Chan and with a bunch of kids who have only ever heard of him via V for Vendetta.
In America we started basically right at or just before the Revolutionary War era, skipping large sections about early colonialism here. I mean they taught us about that monster Columbus sailing the ocean blue. Then Thanksgiving. Then a bit of the French and Indian wars. Then bam 1776. It's like the earlier stuff just got fast forwarded to get to the USA forming.
But like... Where do you start in the UK for example? Roman times? 1066? 1215?
why do morning people even exist
My geography teacher came from Chile, which led to a fairly thorough education on the Mayan, Incan and Aztec civilisations, but ended with "And then the Spanish came and everything went to shit."
I figured as much!
We do much of the same, IMO.
Social Studies class smoothed out so much of the rough edges that make history interesting to me.
Wait..
... What?
We had US history, sure, and it dealt with early colonization and all of that.
And we (my school) also had normal history where you start in Egypt and make your way through all the points in history. 4th and 5th grade dealt with the key points like you had with early US history and 1776, 6th grade was the start of global history up until 10th grade, then in 11th grade we revisited US history again, and in 12th grade we had Economics and PIG (participation in government) where we learned the ins and outs of our congress.
It might be I missed most of the good stuff because of my anxiety around school at that point! So I'm mostly talking about how we started out between 1st and 5th grade. I'm certain they would have went into more interesting stuff later but like I just don't have that experience because I hardly went.
Probably relies heavily on where you're from too. Upstate NY has really excellent schools in general (outside of the cities).
If you grew up in like.. the deep backwaters of Missouri... maybe not so much.
6th grade was early Africa and Mesopotamian cultures
7th grade was Meso and South American, later half dealt with imperialism of the British Empire
8th grade was Roman empire related history (and all the cultures going on like China and that), with the later half being 1800 America
9th grade was a heavy focus on medieval Europe (fall of the Roman Empire and the dark ages) and the renaissance
FAST FORWARD 10th grade was WW1 and WW2 history and the early 1900s
11th grade was a deep look into US history
I'm probably a bit off here and there, and I'm sure I'm forgetting like a good chunk of some of them (we didn't go too deep into India and southeast asia, or a lot of the african areas)
I've done a lot of self study about the very basics of world history and stuff since then, because it's fascinating to me, but It would be cool to have actual schooling on it.
Or when you like, open up wikipedia to get info on something you're working on and whoops it's 8 hours later and now you're reading about the Roman Legion.
Granted it's not hard to get my thinking about history, I particularly like her books for example, I have listened to the four of them I own a couple times each now. I think Wordy Shipmates is actually my favorite.
Also the history of Rome podcast was good, but I fell off of listening to the Revolutions one toward the middle of the Haitian Revolution.
I should probably get more history books since I always seem to enjoy them.
That's not how this works.
That's not how any of this works.
Even if it did work like that, volume and economies of scale would mean it'd be a few dozen cents for every few dollars. It's not exactly a 1:1.
Your depiction of grade school history classes is pretty much on par with my experience in the US as well. Any classes that started before colonization or included anything outside of the US's direct involvement were few and far between and limited to very brief survey classes that ended up being not really informative or factually correct.
The one World History class was basically "These countries exist, and here's a bunch of stereotypical 'facts' about them". IIRC, the one slide on Ireland depicted children dancing in kilts and didn't even mention the, at the time pre-Good Friday Agreement, conflict with England.
Geography was less about nations than about trying to pack peoples into regional stereotypes.
Like, I finally got the chance to take AP courses later on and got to take European History 1 and Comparative Government classes, but those were also relatively minor.
My experience with the grade school US history curriculum has taught me that you'd learn more about the US from just watching every Ken Burns documentary and Crash Course US History, and more about the rest of the world from watching Crash Course World History on Youtube and PBS documentaries.
But apparently it does vary widely by state. I've heard that in upstate New York you learn actually learn a small bit about the Iroquois Confederation in their state history classes. In Texas there's basically no mention of the plains indians in the history because everything about Texas in US or state history is framed entirely around the US, Spain, and Mexico.
My ant poison traps aren't working.
But I can't put them in good places because of cats.
Do you know how many Spanish, Mexican, and American governors there were who might show up on a test? A buttload, and the only one I can ever remember is Albino Perez. Because A. his name was "Albino" and B. he was beheaded during yet another uprising and some accounts have the rebels playing soccer with his head in the plaza before placing it on public display.
It's that kind of little historic detail that really captures the imagination of your average seventh grader.
Both ants and cats hate cinnamon
It kills insects by being abrasive, and their little innards are tiny and delicate enough that it's like putting fragments of glass in their food. Vertebrates are big and tough enough that it doesn't damage our digestive tract in the same way.
The Haitian Revolution was just so depressing, I almost gave up listening to it.
In case you're interested, he's finished the South American Revolution, and France's 6 day revolution, as well as some supplemental revolutions, including the Les Miserables one.
WoW
Dear Satan.....
LIST OF WHITE EXPLORERS SO BRAVE GOING PLACES WHERE NO MAN HAD EVER GONE
CONFEDERATION
THE CANADIAN PACIFIC RAILROAD WAS BUILT SOME ATROCITIES MAY HAVE OCCURRED DURING ITS CONSTRUCTION
AND EVERYONE LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER
OH WAIT, THE AVRO ARROW
Most of my Canadian History in Manitoba was
LIST OF WHITE EXPLORERS SO BRAVE GOING PLACES WHERE NO MAN HAD EVER GONE
CONFEDERATION
WHITE ANGLOS THREATENED TO CRUSH METIS CULTURE
LOUIS RIEL STARTS REBELLION
THE CANADIAN PACIFIC RAILROAD WAS BUILT ALLOWING ANGLO TROOPS TO QUICKLY BE TRANSPORTED TO THE RED RIVER AREA
LOUIS RIEL FLEES TO AMERICA
LOUIS RIEL RETURNS, CLAIMING HE IS THE SON OF GOD
LOUIS RIEL IS ARRESTED
LOUIS RIEL IS HUNG, FUCK JOHN A. MACDONALD
THE METIS ARE STILL HERE, FUCKERS.
"Hey, what's the history of Canada?"
*long drag on cigarette*
"I don' know. I never been"
I think there was a picture of a native american once, off to the side in a painting about the end of the French and Indian war.
I have a line of borax around the perimeter of my porch for this reason. Sprinkling it in the carpet is also a good way to deal with flea infestations.