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Yo those guys were at least a full day's distance walk between Jehda city and the hideout if not longer. Maybe another day hyperspace to the research base and another day spent debriefing/ prepping for unoffical assault/real assault
Plus however many days between the end of Rouge One and when Vader gets back to his ship and catching up to Leia.
Also forget you guys I love that cameo.
I am biased since my dad wrote those guys' EU backstory.
he wrote exactly one of the stories and it was by far the silliest
wait, he wrote the IG-88 story, which was one of the best.
(Full disclosure I read the book at a wedding when I was 12 years old.)
edit: Whats silly about IG-88 murdering an entire complex full of his creators then copying his conciousness into a few duplicate bodies? I mean, silly in the context of the Star Wars universe of course.
edit: okok so assimilating himself into the DS2 was silly... but also freakin awesome, and led to one of the all time funniest Star Wars moments. The rest of the story is just stuff from ESB and SoTE.
He spends about four pages blowing a literary load about how quickly IG-88 can think and process and how it will conquer the universe with its droid revolution and then has three copies get blown up by Boba Fett hardly trying.
The story ends with the hilarious Deathstar 2 upload where IG-88A gets into an elevator fight with Palpatine.
I don't really want to be guilty of defending KJA's work, nor that story in particular, but in all fairness I believe that was intended to be a case of unreliable narrator. IIRC, the story is told from IG-88's point(s) of view (more accurately, it's a third person limited perspective colored by IG-88's perception of things). Of course it thinks it's the best thing in the galaxy, and part of the fun of the story is seeing its assumptions of excellence being repeatedly undermined. I mean, the whole thing could pretty easily be read as a kind of shaggy dog story poking fun at the notion of a droid uprising in the Star Wars universe.
I need to recheck the timing on when the droids appear in R1.
If it's right after Jyn's crew leaves for Scarif then how did they know they were going to Scarif? Did they just overhear them saying they'd go? If Threepio could hear them, why didn't anyone else, and why didn't they notify the command staff that there was a rogue group of soldiers heading for a major Imperial installation?
If it's when word comes back and the Rebels send aid to Scarif then the timing is even weirder, because the comms officer that reports to Mon Mothma states that Admiral Raddus is already on his way with the fleet. There's not really time for them to get up to the Tantive IV in that scenario.
Pretty sure they appeared in the first scenario but I honestly can't remember the timing.
I need to recheck the timing on when the droids appear in R1.
If it's right after Jyn's crew leaves for Scarif then how did they know they were going to Scarif? Did they just overhear them saying they'd go? If Threepio could hear them, why didn't anyone else, and why didn't they notify the command staff that there was a rogue group of soldiers heading for a major Imperial installation?
If it's when word comes back and the Rebels send aid to Scarif then the timing is even weirder, because the comms officer that reports to Mon Mothma states that Admiral Raddus is already on his way with the fleet. There's not really time for them to get up to the Tantive IV in that scenario.
Pretty sure they appeared in the first scenario but I honestly can't remember the timing.
Yeah, that's the one thing in Rogue One that bugs me
The team departs on their mission.
Right after that, Bail and Mon Mothma talk about bringing Obi-Wan in. And we hear him start talking to Captain Antilles.
Then Rogue One's assault starts.
Then the fleet leaves. But Raddus already left? And the droids are on the ground. Either way, everyone gets there at the same time, apparently.
So the Tantive was either always with Raddus, which, how'd the droids get on board? Or the Tantive docked with Raddus during the battle, which might make some sense, as a last minute change of plans to get the DS plans off the dead-in-space ship. But then why risk your Jedi recruitment by sending the Tantive to Scarif?
I think, either way, it's fixed by moving the droid cameo to before Rogue One leaves. It would be too jarring to stick them into the climax; it would destroy any emotion the movie's going for.
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Yeah, that's the one thing in Rogue One that bugs me
The team departs on their mission.
Right after that, Bail and Mon Mothma talk about bringing Obi-Wan in. And we hear him start talking to Captain Antilles.
Then Rogue One's assault starts.
Then the fleet leaves. But Raddus already left? And the droids are on the ground. Either way, everyone gets there at the same time, apparently.
So the Tantive was either always with Raddus, which, how'd the droids get on board? Or the Tantive docked with Raddus during the battle, which might make some sense, as a last minute change of plans to get the DS plans off the dead-in-space ship. But then why risk your Jedi recruitment by sending the Tantive to Scarif?
I think, either way, it's fixed by moving the droid cameo to before Rogue One leaves. It would be too jarring to stick them into the climax; it would destroy any emotion the movie's going for.
Why does the blade of a lightsaber stop? Shouldn't it go on forever?
Yeah, that's the one thing in Rogue One that bugs me
The team departs on their mission.
Right after that, Bail and Mon Mothma talk about bringing Obi-Wan in. And we hear him start talking to Captain Antilles.
Then Rogue One's assault starts.
Then the fleet leaves. But Raddus already left? And the droids are on the ground. Either way, everyone gets there at the same time, apparently.
So the Tantive was either always with Raddus, which, how'd the droids get on board? Or the Tantive docked with Raddus during the battle, which might make some sense, as a last minute change of plans to get the DS plans off the dead-in-space ship. But then why risk your Jedi recruitment by sending the Tantive to Scarif?
I think, either way, it's fixed by moving the droid cameo to before Rogue One leaves. It would be too jarring to stick them into the climax; it would destroy any emotion the movie's going for.
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Perhaps the Tantive IV took damage early on and docked to get it checked then Raddus quickly realized they were screwed when Vader showed up and decided to toss them to Leia and let her get the hell out of there since she was ready to go.
Then when Leia has the plans and knows Vader is right on her tail she decides to try and go get this legendary Jedi and General to help since she was going to get him anyway and heads to Tatooine.
No I was whatting the leap from the screwy droid timelime to the lightaber but my post was to slow.
Oh, I'm pretty sure Chris' point was "Who caaaaaaaaaaaaaares?"
But my point was that lightsabers don't go on forever because they're super heated plasma contained in a magnetic bottle, which explains why they can reflect blaster fire and each other, as well as why they have an end point.
the funny part was when the first thing Artoo did after waking up was tell Threepio to get fucked
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Admiral Motti was being a jerk about someone's faith though. I could see HR maybe siding with Vader in that dispute if Vader immediately filed a grievance instead of resorting to violence. As is, HR takes a hard stance on attempted murder of ranks higher than line officers.
Unless HR is also a possible recipient of force strangulation. In that case they totally side with Lord Vader.
the funny part was when the first thing Artoo did after waking up was tell Threepio to get fucked
R2: "Ugh, this is it, I'll have to go into low power mode, I hope they find me. At least I'll never have too seee that daaamn prootoocoool droooi....."
3PO: "Oh R2! You're alive!"
R2: "Mother fucker!"
It takes real sand to deny the veracity of someone's religion when their religion gives them palpable magic powers
Unless that dude is like some sort of Force denier and thinks Vader has I dunno tractor beam gloves or something
To be fair, he just pointed out that Vader's adherence to The Force hadn't helped him track down the missing plans or find the Rebel base.
He wasn't questioning the existence of The Force, just pointing out that it hadn't helped them.
And he wasn't really that incorrect. They only found the droids with the plans by tracking the escape pod's descent to Tattooine, and then murdering jawas to figure out who the droids had been sold too (and then murdering them too).
They only found the Rebel base by bugging the Falcon and tracking it back to Yavin.
Sure, he could have phrased it in a more diplomatic way than "Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels' hidden fort(ress)." But then, Vader had just shut him down hard while he was talking up the Death Stars capabilities, calling them insignificant next to the power of The Force.
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Plus however many days between the end of Rouge One and when Vader gets back to his ship and catching up to Leia.
Also forget you guys I love that cameo.
I am biased since my dad wrote those guys' EU backstory.
The droid's cameo was awful though.
THE WORDS HAVE BEEN SPOKEN!!!
Like if the droids needed to be in it just have them roll past Captain Antilles at the very end as he takes the plans to Leia.
I don't really want to be guilty of defending KJA's work, nor that story in particular, but in all fairness I believe that was intended to be a case of unreliable narrator. IIRC, the story is told from IG-88's point(s) of view (more accurately, it's a third person limited perspective colored by IG-88's perception of things). Of course it thinks it's the best thing in the galaxy, and part of the fun of the story is seeing its assumptions of excellence being repeatedly undermined. I mean, the whole thing could pretty easily be read as a kind of shaggy dog story poking fun at the notion of a droid uprising in the Star Wars universe.
And, to be honest, I'll be sad when we can't have ANY more silly cameos of the real R2 and C-3PO
I mean sure but I dont see how the droid cameo comes off worse. The droids atleast were supposed to be where they were.
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If it's when word comes back and the Rebels send aid to Scarif then the timing is even weirder, because the comms officer that reports to Mon Mothma states that Admiral Raddus is already on his way with the fleet. There's not really time for them to get up to the Tantive IV in that scenario.
Pretty sure they appeared in the first scenario but I honestly can't remember the timing.
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It is the second one when the fleet leaves.
Right after that, Bail and Mon Mothma talk about bringing Obi-Wan in. And we hear him start talking to Captain Antilles.
Then Rogue One's assault starts.
Then the fleet leaves. But Raddus already left? And the droids are on the ground. Either way, everyone gets there at the same time, apparently.
So the Tantive was either always with Raddus, which, how'd the droids get on board? Or the Tantive docked with Raddus during the battle, which might make some sense, as a last minute change of plans to get the DS plans off the dead-in-space ship. But then why risk your Jedi recruitment by sending the Tantive to Scarif?
I think, either way, it's fixed by moving the droid cameo to before Rogue One leaves. It would be too jarring to stick them into the climax; it would destroy any emotion the movie's going for.
Why does the blade of a lightsaber stop? Shouldn't it go on forever?
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Then when Leia has the plans and knows Vader is right on her tail she decides to try and go get this legendary Jedi and General to help since she was going to get him anyway and heads to Tatooine.
are you whatting how a lightsaber works?
No I was whatting the leap from the screwy droid timelime to the lightaber but my post was to slow.
Oh, I'm pretty sure Chris' point was "Who caaaaaaaaaaaaaares?"
But my point was that lightsabers don't go on forever because they're super heated plasma contained in a magnetic bottle, which explains why they can reflect blaster fire and each other, as well as why they have an end point.
Okay, yeah, I'm in.
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the funny part was when the first thing Artoo did after waking up was tell Threepio to get fucked
Unless HR is also a possible recipient of force strangulation. In that case they totally side with Lord Vader.
sort of like how this very board used to have special rules for one of the moderators' behavior in Help & Advice
R2: "Ugh, this is it, I'll have to go into low power mode, I hope they find me. At least I'll never have too seee that daaamn prootoocoool droooi....."
3PO: "Oh R2! You're alive!"
R2: "Mother fucker!"
Unless that dude is like some sort of Force denier and thinks Vader has I dunno tractor beam gloves or something
To be fair, he just pointed out that Vader's adherence to The Force hadn't helped him track down the missing plans or find the Rebel base.
He wasn't questioning the existence of The Force, just pointing out that it hadn't helped them.
And he wasn't really that incorrect. They only found the droids with the plans by tracking the escape pod's descent to Tattooine, and then murdering jawas to figure out who the droids had been sold too (and then murdering them too).
They only found the Rebel base by bugging the Falcon and tracking it back to Yavin.
Sure, he could have phrased it in a more diplomatic way than "Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways, Lord Vader. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes, or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels' hidden fort(ress)." But then, Vader had just shut him down hard while he was talking up the Death Stars capabilities, calling them insignificant next to the power of The Force.
I can't even remember what this was but it sounds like something that happened for sure.
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