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[Healthcare Debate] Graham/Cassidy v. Sanders/Klobuchar town hall on CNN 9P EST

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    Spaten OptimatorSpaten Optimator Smooth Operator Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Aridhol wrote: »
    I'll say it now. The big takeaway from this debate will be that Pharma and Insurance are ripping people off and that helps no one on the right. No one.

    edit: shit Graham just agreed that medicare negotiating power on drugs was a good idea and that he'll think about re-importation.

    He acted like this is some novel concept cooked up for tonight's debate and he had no thoughts on the topic.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    Ugh I'm not going to the presidents twitter feed to see what he vomited about this debate

    I follow a bot that turns every tweet of his into a press release;


    Nothing about the show specifically that I saw.

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    AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Aridhol wrote: »
    I'll say it now. The big takeaway from this debate will be that Pharma and Insurance are ripping people off and that helps no one on the right. No one.

    edit: shit Graham just agreed that medicare negotiating power on drugs was a good idea and that he'll think about re-importation.

    Ron Howard voice :He won't

    Oh for sure he won't but it still feels like Graham and Cassidy are giving ground on lefty ideas.

    Bi-partisan work that attacks insurance profiteering and high cost pharmaceuticals is a win for everyone in the country except those industries.

    Something to work on at least?

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Cassidy and Graham are trying to blame the excesses of the private insurance and pharmaceutical industries on Obamacare. Right up until the end of their argument, they sound like total pinkos.

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    Lindsay Graham to Trump: "Go fuck yourself."

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Graham thinks he can pivot to anti-single payer and grandstanding on John McCain's record without having to talk about his shitburger

    Phew! Made it Lindsey! Good job!

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Ok Bernie. You can sit down now.

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Ok Bernie. You can sit down now.

    Bernie knows he has to gesticulate at full height for maximum effect

    And now he's haranguing graham for having an abortive process in the context of McCain which is pleasing

    And then cut to Cassidy who is honestly just a drag. At least Graham knows how to perform.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Sen Graham, when Bernie Sanders wants to talk about socialized medicine, you'll know. Everyone will know. You literally can't get him to shut up about it.

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    AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Cassidy, you can't make this shit about Single Payer, stop trying.

    Graham & Cassidy completely given up on their own bill.

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    Bill, wanting Democrats to be bipartisan after the last 8 years is the highest bullshit.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Ok Bernie. You can sit down now.

    Bernie knows he has to gesticulate at full height for maximum effect

    And now he's haranguing graham for having an abortive process in the context of McCain which is pleasing

    And then cut to Cassidy who is honestly just a drag. At least Graham knows how to perform.

    I was mostly reacting to him having stood up too early and just sort of standing behind Klobuchar waiting for his turn.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Turned it back on

    "It's the same system, it just has one payer the federal government. It's the Canadian system."

    The Canadian system isn't federal and it's not the same system.

    And now we're on single payer with Bernie claiming it's not socialism with Cassidy talking about God and a homeless man's version of Obama in 04 DNC. What happened I thought we were keeping this on topic

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    Bill, wanting Democrats to be bipartisan after the last 8 years is the highest bullshit.

    The frustration in his voice might actually be real. But it is also completely ridiculous for him to have expected anything different.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    Cassidy, please mansplain PP to us.

    Oh shit, this lady's face is priceless. GIF of the debate.

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    What the fuck Cassidy, yes birth control should be over the counter, but last I checked it wasn't Democrats that were against it.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Cassidy just said that he wanted women to get healthcare they needed, but PP shouldn't be it, somehow

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Ok Bernie. You can sit down now.

    Bernie knows he has to gesticulate at full height for maximum effect

    And now he's haranguing graham for having an abortive process in the context of McCain which is pleasing

    And then cut to Cassidy who is honestly just a drag. At least Graham knows how to perform.

    I was mostly reacting to him having stood up too early and just sort of standing behind Klobuchar waiting for his turn.

    Honestly klobuchar is bernies unwanted wing woman he just wants to roll up his sleeves and go for jugulars

    God I hate listening to Cassidy. He is SUCH a bummer.

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    AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Planned parenthood question to Cassidy.
    Questioner: Planned parenthood allowed me to have kids, why take this away.

    Cassidy: Go somewhere else.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Turned it back on

    "It's the same system, it just has one payer the federal government. It's the Canadian system."

    The Canadian system isn't federal and it's not the same system.

    And now we're on single payer with Bernie claiming it's not socialism with Cassidy talking about God and a homeless man's version of Obama in 04 DNC. What happened I thought we were keeping this on topic

    I was busy tonight.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Hakkekage wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    Ok Bernie. You can sit down now.

    Bernie knows he has to gesticulate at full height for maximum effect

    And now he's haranguing graham for having an abortive process in the context of McCain which is pleasing

    And then cut to Cassidy who is honestly just a drag. At least Graham knows how to perform.

    I was mostly reacting to him having stood up too early and just sort of standing behind Klobuchar waiting for his turn.

    Honestly klobuchar is bernies unwanted wing woman he just wants to roll up his sleeves and go for jugulars

    God I hate listening to Cassidy. He is SUCH a bummer.

    Chaperone is the thing I keep coming back to. They gave him a chaperone that wasn't going to let him get into too much trouble.

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    AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Klobuchar: Don't fucking explain women's healthcare to me you fucks. (paraphrased)

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    PantsB wrote: »
    Turned it back on

    "It's the same system, it just has one payer the federal government. It's the Canadian system."

    The Canadian system isn't federal and it's not the same system.

    And now we're on single payer with Bernie claiming it's not socialism with Cassidy talking about God and a homeless man's version of Obama in 04 DNC. What happened I thought we were keeping this on topic

    I was busy tonight.

    Pretty sure most of the stage would shush you so they could mansplain it until you had to his the Renegade trigger anyway

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    AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    what the fuck Graham brings up the planned parenthood "body parts" video?

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Oh my god graham is trying to backpedal like their crazy proposal got people talking about healthcare because NO ONE was talking about it before THESE HEROES came along!

    The cojones

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Is Graham seriously trying to make a pro-choice pitch for the bill?

    And now he's just lying about the bi-partisan bill.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Bernie is now going after their hypocrisy on choice while defunding PP

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Aridhol wrote: »
    Klobuchar: Don't fucking explain women's healthcare to me you fucks. (paraphrased)

    They're standing up there distinctly ignoring that women will be fucked over under their bill

    But over the counter BC guys!

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    "When we talk about compassion and choice, please do not forget" that they keep trying to defund planned parenthood and throw poor people off insurance.

    Own this argument, people. It's how we win.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Only one option on the exchange question

    Please hammer the public option

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    I'm not real clear on what she just said McCaskill's bill would do.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited September 2017
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I'm not real clear on what she just said McCaskill's bill would do.

    She failed to explain the public option at all unfortunately.

    edit IIRC McCaskill is public option in undeserved areas, Schatz is public option Medicaid

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    AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Bernie has a clearer message on public option but Klobuchar did a good job of bringing up the other bills and options in progress.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    I think I may have a new least favorite Senator after tonight.

    Every time Cassidy talks I start involuntarily headbutting.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I'm not real clear on what she just said McCaskill's bill would do.

    She failed to explain the public option at all unfortunately.

    Ah. That makes sense in context but it didn't come across at all.

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    AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    hahhaha Cassidy: "Google medicare fraud"
    The internet is surely the place for clear and accurate information from that search term. FFS.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Best out of context quote of the night so far;

    "Our job, as the Humane Society" - Sen Sanders (I-Vermont)

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    AridholAridhol Daddliest Catch Registered User regular
    Woo public option!

    Also, this debate is better than I thought it would be. Except Cassidy makes me physically ill when he talks.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    The Sanders reaction shots are great. You can tell he really just wants to be out there arguing.

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    OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Cassidy things we ought to trust Governors to do the work state-by-state.

    He thinks we're all stupid and have the memories of goldfish.

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