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A Billion Degrees of [Science]

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    SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Important work is being done on twitter on the classification of animals.

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    D3 Steam #TeamTangent STO
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    BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    That image is from 2014.

    https://imgur.com/gallery/qeDnICz

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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    You are from 2014

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    I saw in the news today that a research team at University College London have made a massive breakthrough in treating Huntington's Disease

    Something like that will change the lives of entire families. Science is the best!

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    tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Solar wrote: »
    I saw in the news today that a research team at University College London have made a massive breakthrough in treating Huntington's Disease

    Something like that will change the lives of entire families. Science is the best!

    One of my friends has a parent with Huntington's (it runs in the family), and a 50% chance of getting it himself, and this is amazing news for him.

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    SharpyVIISharpyVII Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    Emmanuel Macron the President of France is awarding US climate scientists grants to move to France to "Make Our Planet Great Again"
    Eighteen climate scientists from the US and elsewhere have hit the jackpot as France’s president, Emmanuel Macron, awarded them millions of euros in grants to relocate to France for the rest of Donald Trump’s presidential term.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/dec/11/macron-awards-grants-to-us-scientists-to-move-to-france-in-defiance-of-trump?CMP=fb_gu

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Huh, novel if nothing else


    AI-INDUCED EMPATHY


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    Can we use AI to increase empathy for victims of far-away disasters by making our homes appear similar to the homes of victims?

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    ughhhhh no please

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    JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    Better feelings through science!

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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    I'm trying to feel less, not more. Thanks but no thanks

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    welp

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    hahaha WHAT
    I hope they literally just ignore him

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    that is just the fucking plot of a black mirror episode

    what in the world

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Science based.

    Science based.

    Science based.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Faith-based research only please.

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    XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    tide goes in, tides goes out

    you

    can't explain that

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    ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    I remember about ten years ago Neil deGrasse Tyson said he wasn't worried about science education funding in the US, because he knows that the Democrats are generally for funding education, and the one thing he knows for certain about Republicans is, "Republicans do not want to die poor." And that Republicans know that investment in science is one of the best ways to keep the US competitive and innovative in the marketplace.

    Oh, Neil. Making the classic scientist-analyzing-human-behavior blunder: assuming rational actors.

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Wealth is relative, so it doesn't matter how poor the country is so long as they remain in power, and thus relatively wealthy. This move is all about staying in power.

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    KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    It doesn't matter if you're poor, so long as someone else is poorer than you are. - Republicans

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/oumuamua-interstellar-visitor-alien-object-breakthrough-listen-latest-discovery-proof-a8116756.html
    The first ever interstellar visitor to our solar system is wrapped in a layer of organic insulation, scientists have said.

    Oumuamua has enthralled astronomers and the public since it flew through the solar system in October.

    As the first alien rock to travel here from another star, it was immediately recognised as highly unusual – but as scientists learn more about the object, they are discovering how strange it actually is.

    What is "organic insulation"? It sounds cool.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    It's your Mum

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/oumuamua-interstellar-visitor-alien-object-breakthrough-listen-latest-discovery-proof-a8116756.html
    The first ever interstellar visitor to our solar system is wrapped in a layer of organic insulation, scientists have said.

    Oumuamua has enthralled astronomers and the public since it flew through the solar system in October.

    As the first alien rock to travel here from another star, it was immediately recognised as highly unusual – but as scientists learn more about the object, they are discovering how strange it actually is.

    What is "organic insulation"? It sounds cool.

    Molecules containing carbon.

    Just remember that half the people you meet are below average intelligence.
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    PlatyPlaty Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    Ghosted again!

    Carbon

    The good stuff

    aka "the king of the elements"

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/oumuamua-interstellar-visitor-alien-object-breakthrough-listen-latest-discovery-proof-a8116756.html
    The first ever interstellar visitor to our solar system is wrapped in a layer of organic insulation, scientists have said.

    Oumuamua has enthralled astronomers and the public since it flew through the solar system in October.

    As the first alien rock to travel here from another star, it was immediately recognised as highly unusual – but as scientists learn more about the object, they are discovering how strange it actually is.

    What is "organic insulation"? It sounds cool.

    Molecules containing carbon.

    Which, to be fair to Solar, does not preclude it from being yer mum

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    LuvTheMonkeyLuvTheMonkey High Sierra Serenade Registered User regular
    Roasted

    Molten variables hiss and roar. On my mind-forge, I hammer them into the greatsword Epistemology. Many are my foes this night.
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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/oumuamua-interstellar-visitor-alien-object-breakthrough-listen-latest-discovery-proof-a8116756.html
    The first ever interstellar visitor to our solar system is wrapped in a layer of organic insulation, scientists have said.

    Oumuamua has enthralled astronomers and the public since it flew through the solar system in October.

    As the first alien rock to travel here from another star, it was immediately recognised as highly unusual – but as scientists learn more about the object, they are discovering how strange it actually is.

    What is "organic insulation"? It sounds cool.

    Molecules containing carbon.

    Can someone source this?
    Because that article says, paraphrased, 'It's ice but it's not falling apart when it warms up. So... Organic insulation?'
    No mention of carbon.

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    TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/oumuamua-interstellar-visitor-alien-object-breakthrough-listen-latest-discovery-proof-a8116756.html
    The first ever interstellar visitor to our solar system is wrapped in a layer of organic insulation, scientists have said.

    Oumuamua has enthralled astronomers and the public since it flew through the solar system in October.

    As the first alien rock to travel here from another star, it was immediately recognised as highly unusual – but as scientists learn more about the object, they are discovering how strange it actually is.

    What is "organic insulation"? It sounds cool.

    Molecules containing carbon.

    Can someone source this?
    Because that article says, paraphrased, 'It's ice but it's not falling apart when it warms up. So... Organic insulation?'
    No mention of carbon.

    In chemistry, organic = carbon-containing.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    in non-food contexts "organic" means molecules based on carbon atoms
    when you hear the phrase "organic life" it's referring to the fact that life on earth is formed out of carbon molecule structures, DNA and proteins and sugars and etc.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    Sure.
    I think the article is misusing the term however.

    Or at least not providing evidence for using it.

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    TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    That's because the article from The Independent is leaning heavily on crappy pop-sci suggestions to drive lay interest. Here's a better article:

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/11/first-known-interstellar-visitor-is-a-bizarre-cigar-shaped-asteroid/

    Re: carbon and evidence thereof:
    Comets tend to have the most extreme orbits, but imaging revealed that, despite its close approach to the Sun, ‘Oumuamua did not vent any dust or particles as it heated up. Within the limits of our detection, there was 10 million times less matter than you’d expect to see vented by a comet. So, ‘Oumuamua appears to be more of an asteroid. Its reddish tinge is typical of objects with a lot of organic chemicals on their surface.

    Bolding mine. The fact is, carbon is very common. It's the fourth most abundant element in our solar system and is produced by normal stellar fusion in all stars, so an asteroid with a surface containing organic molecules is hardly a crazy logical leap. We see this already in our own solar system (complex organic molecules are responsible for Pluto's reddish tinge, for example).

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited December 2017
    yeah that article (from The Independent) rubs me the wrong way too
    super clickbaity "could it be aliens?" title and more ALIENS?! shit in the beginning of the article, and little or no specifics about what led the quoted scientist to think the object's makeup is a carbon crust around an icy core.

    And this random aside they throw in near the end:
    The object is very thin and very long – just what you’d design for long-distance space travel – and appears to be taking a strange trajectory. Those strange characteristics have led the Breakthrough Listen project, supported by Stephen Hawking, to point telescopes at Oumuamua and see if any radio transmissions can be heard.
    looool

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    And here's a PBS article that goes into more detail about the "insulation" half of "organic insulation":

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/oumuamua-the-alien-asteroid-wears-an-organic-coat-but-whats-inside

    Basically, what you get out in the fringes of the solar system is a lot of dirty ice, where the dirt is a mishmash of carbon-based molecules. Over time, the ice is slowly sublimated by solar wind and cosmic rays, and the dirt stays behind, forming a dry crust. And when this crust gets thick enough, it should protect the inner core of ice, which can be preserved for billions of years without further sublimation.

    It's not something unique to 'Oumuamua, but it does give us some clues as to what kind of object it might be.

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    3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Why is long and thin what you'd design for space travel? If you need to get it out of a gravity well smothered by atmosphere, sure, but it seems more logical to assume that interstellar craft will be constructed entirely in orbit and in vacuum shape and form-factor are irrelevant.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    Why is long and thin what you'd design for space travel? If you need to get it out of a gravity well smothered by atmosphere, sure, but it seems more logical to assume that interstellar craft will be constructed entirely in orbit and in vacuum shape and form-factor are irrelevant.

    You still have to deal with stress from acceleration and deceleration though.

    Also the closer you get to C the more radiation pressure your craft will receive.

    Astrodynamics is still somewhat important, though less so because of turbulence and drag because of an atmosphere but because of a whole host of other problems. Spheres and cylinders are the best.

    But this is all armchair science because I'm not an engineer someone else can correct me there.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    The reddish hydrocarbons in our solar system are collectively called "tholins". They're a mixture of complex organic molecules created when simple hydrocarbons (methane) are illuminated by ultraviolet light. The UV light knocks away electrons and allows those simple molecules to combine into more and more complicated structures. This creates a reddish-brown soot that coats objects in our outer solar system.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tholin

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Look at the facts, people

    Organic material
    Interstellar
    Strange
    Visitor
    Apparently named after ancient hawiaan civilization
    Probable government cover up
    Long and thin, like a surf board
    Obama-era
    PossiblY metallic
    Cosmic

    Based on an evidence-based reading of the facts, it's pretty obvious that OBAMA is the SILVER SURFER, herald of GALACTUS, and his COSMIC SURF BOARD is on its way back to USHER IN THE SNACKTIME OF THE DESTROYER.




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    TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    Clearly an intergalactic dildo.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Tynnan wrote: »
    Clearly an intergalactic dildo.

    Made of Vibranium.

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    TynnanTynnan seldom correct, never unsure Registered User regular
    discrider wrote: »
    Tynnan wrote: »
    Clearly an intergalactic dildo.

    Made of Vibranium.

    Surrounded by yer mum.

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