The thing that scares me about all this is the talking point that there might be a full Intelligence Community purge of the 'disloyal'.
Because once he has an intelligence agency willing to follow his orders, no matter what, that's things get real, real dark.
I need some Hopium here guys and gals.
You might be able to hire some idiot talking head from Fox or rich bastard from Wall Street and put them into an appointed leadership position, but you can't do that in an entire organization of thousands of members who require very specialized skillsets. The FBI/CIA/etc require skills way more complex's than ICE's 'bust down a door and arrest all the brown people', so the only way to really take complete control of an IC agency is if there's already a sizable faction in your camp.
And that may have been true before the election. But I don't see how this won't drive them, and especially the FBI, into a complete rage, and Trump is insane if he actually believes what he tweeted about the rank and file backing him up. At this point a 'purge' of anything more than the top couple guys would require disbanding the entire agency.
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The bright side to all this is that McCabe was literally "two days till retirement" and can only be so far from being "too old for this shit"
President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, John Dowd, told The Daily Beast on Saturday morning that he hopes Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will shut down the Mueller probe.
“I pray that Acting Attorney General Rosenstein will follow the brilliant and courageous example of the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility and Attorney General Jeff Sessions and bring an end to alleged Russia Collusion investigation manufactured by McCabe’s boss James Comey based upon a fraudulent and corrupt Dossier,” Dowd then wrote.
He told The Daily Beast he was speaking on behalf of the president, in his capacity as the president’s attorney.
Dowd also emailed the text below, which is an annotated version of a line from a well-known 20th century play:
“What's that smell in this room[Bureau}? Didn't you notice it, Brick [Jim]? Didn't you notice a powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity in this room[Bureau}?... There ain't nothin' more powerful than the odor of mendacity[corruption]... You can smell it. It smells like death.” Tennessee Williams — ‘Cat on a Hot Tin Roof’
Going from "I am speaking as Trump's lawyer" to "I was just speaking personally and not as Trump's lawyer" kind of requires incompetence at best and lying at worst.
The data analytics firm that worked with Donald Trump’s election team and the winning Brexit campaign harvested millions of Facebook profiles of US voters, in the tech giant’s biggest ever data breach, and used them to build a powerful software program to predict and influence choices at the ballot box.
A whistleblower has revealed to the Observer how Cambridge Analytica – a company owned by the hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer, and headed at the time by Trump’s key adviser Steve Bannon – used personal information taken without authorisation in early 2014 to build a system that could profile individual US voters, in order to target them with personalised political advertisements.
Christopher Wylie, who worked with an academic at Cambridge University to obtain the data, told the Observer: “We exploited Facebook to harvest millions of people’s profiles. And built models to exploit what we knew about them and target their inner demons. That was the basis that the entire company was built on.”
The thing that scares me about all this is the talking point that there might be a full Intelligence Community purge of the 'disloyal'.
Because once he has an intelligence agency willing to follow his orders, no matter what, that's things get real, real dark.
I need some Hopium here guys and gals.
Intelligence agencies are built on internal trust, loyalty and tradition. Without engaging in Stalin levels of purging you simply can't force a change in the optics of organizations like the CIA, FBI or NSA and trying to do so is going to backfire on you hard.
Expect these organizations to start leaking like a screendoor in a hurricane if trump keeps up this stupid shit.
If Sessions did the McCabe firing unprompted, it was probably an effort to keep his job.
Loathsome as he is, Sessions is all that's standing in the way of a Mueller firing. America needs him in place at least until the Democrats take back one of the chambers of congress and can continue the work from there.
The data analytics firm that worked with Donald Trump’s election team and the winning Brexit campaign harvested millions of Facebook profiles of US voters, in the tech giant’s biggest ever data breach, and used them to build a powerful software program to predict and influence choices at the ballot box.
A whistleblower has revealed to the Observer how Cambridge Analytica – a company owned by the hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer, and headed at the time by Trump’s key adviser Steve Bannon – used personal information taken without authorisation in early 2014 to build a system that could profile individual US voters, in order to target them with personalised political advertisements.
Christopher Wylie, who worked with an academic at Cambridge University to obtain the data, told the Observer: “We exploited Facebook to harvest millions of people’s profiles. And built models to exploit what we knew about them and target their inner demons. That was the basis that the entire company was built on.”
I want to feel like this is a big deal, but I also feel like this type of info is out there already?
Obviously obtaining it via breach, and pairing it with breached voter roll data and Russian propaganda isn’t typical, and is a nice stream to go alongside the hacked emails and wiki releases...
If Sessions did the McCabe firing unprompted, it was probably an effort to keep his job.
Loathsome as he is, Sessions is all that's standing in the way of a Mueller firing. America needs him in place at least until the Democrats take back one of the chambers of congress and can continue the work from there.
I can't help but feel this whole thing was some fucked up carrot for Trump. "Look bud, you do x, y and z and you can have McCabe fired 2 days before his retirement." And Trump being the miserable old bastard he is, was all about it.
I can’t help but think that the people who are going to take this news the worst out of everyone are the hard working men and women of the FBI. There’s no way the career employees there aren’t super pissed about this.
What a great way to get lasers focused on literally every thing you've ever done in your life by making enemies of the intelligence agency that works for your own god damned government. If we didn't have some information on Trump because it was hidden away well, we will soon.
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ESPECIALLY if you work in a role where this Administration can dick you.
I do find it ironic that one of the things that started the whole Mueller investigation was, beyond the actual firing, that Comey had taken contemporaneous notes.
And now we find McCabe has done the same thing.
Wonder if Trump or Sessions will try to outlaw the taking of notes about conversations with the President.
I can’t help but think that the people who are going to take this news the worst out of everyone are the hard working men and women of the FBI. There’s no way the career employees there aren’t super pissed about this.
What a great way to get lasers focused on literally every thing you've ever done in your life by making enemies of the intelligence agency that works for your own god damned government. If we didn't have some information on Trump because it was hidden away well, we will soon.
No doubt, but I think his staff is desperate to keep him from completely going insane, and so this was some Faustian bargain to placate him.
I have been involved in DOJ and FBI disciplinary matters since 1994. I have never before seen the type of rush to judgment – and rush to summary punishment – that we have witnessed in the case of Andy McCabe: https://t.co/9XKXoUKqTV
Notice it also happened after all the Friday evening news shows, to minimize it's presence in the news cycle. By Sunday morning something else will probably happen.
That is true regardless of the day it is released on. Something else happening within the next two days to get the media's attention has been true at almost every point in this administration.
I can’t help but think that the people who are going to take this news the worst out of everyone are the hard working men and women of the FBI. There’s no way the career employees there aren’t super pissed about this.
I've mostly heard former and current government employees (at all levels of governments) being pissed at this. Just at essentially stealing a guy's pension out of spite.
That is true regardless of the day it is released on. Something else happening within the next two days to get the media's attention has been true at almost every point in this administration.
True, but Saturday is probably the one day a week where news isn't reported as heavily. During the week you have nightly news on cable and network TV, and Sunday has the morning political shows, but Saturday doesn't really have anything. It will probably make Sunday papers but who reads those anymore?
The data analytics firm that worked with Donald Trump’s election team and the winning Brexit campaign harvested millions of Facebook profiles of US voters, in the tech giant’s biggest ever data breach, and used them to build a powerful software program to predict and influence choices at the ballot box.
A whistleblower has revealed to the Observer how Cambridge Analytica – a company owned by the hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer, and headed at the time by Trump’s key adviser Steve Bannon – used personal information taken without authorisation in early 2014 to build a system that could profile individual US voters, in order to target them with personalised political advertisements.
Christopher Wylie, who worked with an academic at Cambridge University to obtain the data, told the Observer: “We exploited Facebook to harvest millions of people’s profiles. And built models to exploit what we knew about them and target their inner demons. That was the basis that the entire company was built on.”
I want to feel like this is a big deal, but I also feel like this type of info is out there already?
Obviously obtaining it via breach, and pairing it with breached voter roll data and Russian propaganda isn’t typical, and is a nice stream to go alongside the hacked emails and wiki releases...
It's not really a breach. They used bogus quizzes to scrape information from users against FB's terms of service.
Notice it also happened after all the Friday evening news shows, to minimize it's presence in the news cycle. By Sunday morning something else will probably happen.
This is not gonna drop out of the news. Especially if McCabe starts talking about his memos. Press will love that shit.
For those not following:
- Dowd (Trump's lawyer) calls for an end to the Mueller investigation and some light purging, speaking on behalf of the President
- Once they all realise what he's said, he releases a statement saying he totally wasn't speaking on behalf of the President after all
- then it comes out he wrote down he was speaking as Trump's consel
And all of this in comic sans because Dowd isn't just a moron, he's a spectacular moron.
This is pretty much it though, right? Like our worst fears of s trump presidency or our biggest hopes. It's one or the other. Either trump goes down in flames or he successfully takes over the law enforcement arm of the federal government and we get president for life trump.
Right now it certainly seems like it'll go down with the good guys winning but it easily could go the other way.
McCabe was officially fired for talking to the press when he ostensibly wasn’t supposed to (and not being clear enough about that during the investigation?), not because of corruption or being married to a Democrat. But Trump’s conspiracy theory base are who he’s really speaking to here.
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He's only 49, but anyone is too old for this shit.
Legally, his Glover-index was "two days 'till being too old for this shit," and thus eligible for early retirement.
"Leaking" was not the appropriatet term to use, but his thought process here continues to inform pretty much all his actions.
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https://thedailybeast.com/trumps-lawyer-its-time-to-fire-robert-mueller Yay purges.
Edit: NYT reporter:
You get to the bottom of the gold mine and hit silver. You get to the bottom of the silver mine and hit gold again.
When do we hit Balrogs?
Normally I’d think after mithril but I’m not sure this mine isn’t stupid balrogs all the way down
The balrogs are outside telling you to shut down the mine because you'll never find iron.
Revealed: 50 million Facebook profiles harvested for Cambridge Analytica in major data breach
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-analytica-facebook-influence-us-election
And then someone starts throwing gold down the shaft at you.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Intelligence agencies are built on internal trust, loyalty and tradition. Without engaging in Stalin levels of purging you simply can't force a change in the optics of organizations like the CIA, FBI or NSA and trying to do so is going to backfire on you hard.
Expect these organizations to start leaking like a screendoor in a hurricane if trump keeps up this stupid shit.
June 16th, 2015.
Loathsome as he is, Sessions is all that's standing in the way of a Mueller firing. America needs him in place at least until the Democrats take back one of the chambers of congress and can continue the work from there.
I want to feel like this is a big deal, but I also feel like this type of info is out there already?
Obviously obtaining it via breach, and pairing it with breached voter roll data and Russian propaganda isn’t typical, and is a nice stream to go alongside the hacked emails and wiki releases...
I can't help but feel this whole thing was some fucked up carrot for Trump. "Look bud, you do x, y and z and you can have McCabe fired 2 days before his retirement." And Trump being the miserable old bastard he is, was all about it.
It's a novel defence, just keep committing crimes so the investigation can never be wrapped up.
"begone, Flame Of UrDumb!"
What a great way to get lasers focused on literally every thing you've ever done in your life by making enemies of the intelligence agency that works for your own god damned government. If we didn't have some information on Trump because it was hidden away well, we will soon.
Always remember to document everything folks.
I do find it ironic that one of the things that started the whole Mueller investigation was, beyond the actual firing, that Comey had taken contemporaneous notes.
And now we find McCabe has done the same thing.
Wonder if Trump or Sessions will try to outlaw the taking of notes about conversations with the President.
No doubt, but I think his staff is desperate to keep him from completely going insane, and so this was some Faustian bargain to placate him.
This will be a big wrongful termination lawsuit.
True, but Saturday is probably the one day a week where news isn't reported as heavily. During the week you have nightly news on cable and network TV, and Sunday has the morning political shows, but Saturday doesn't really have anything. It will probably make Sunday papers but who reads those anymore?
Trump hires only the worst.
It's not really a breach. They used bogus quizzes to scrape information from users against FB's terms of service.
It's part of a small thread. They used the API against their TOS. Hack is probably the right word, breach is definitely not.
Alex Stamos is the Chief Security Officer at Facebook
This is not gonna drop out of the news. Especially if McCabe starts talking about his memos. Press will love that shit.
Ahh yes, drag McCabe's politics into this. His lawyers will love that shit.
This shit doesn't even register anymore. I've been waiting for it. We all know it was coming. He had to rant about this.
For those not following:
- Dowd (Trump's lawyer) calls for an end to the Mueller investigation and some light purging, speaking on behalf of the President
- Once they all realise what he's said, he releases a statement saying he totally wasn't speaking on behalf of the President after all
- then it comes out he wrote down he was speaking as Trump's consel
And all of this in comic sans because Dowd isn't just a moron, he's a spectacular moron.
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Right now it certainly seems like it'll go down with the good guys winning but it easily could go the other way.
McCabe was officially fired for talking to the press when he ostensibly wasn’t supposed to (and not being clear enough about that during the investigation?), not because of corruption or being married to a Democrat. But Trump’s conspiracy theory base are who he’s really speaking to here.