HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
Let's actually get serious about this.
@Mojo_Jojo@Ketar If both of you agree to give all your votes to Mentak for Minister of Commerce, (1) I will pay you one trade good now, (2) I will give you free commodity refreshes every time I pick trade for the rest of the game (which I promise would be rather frequent), and (3) I will refrain from using pillage against you for the rest of the game.
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It would be pretty outrageous to give this to Mentak. With that second racial you'd be richer than the Hacan.
That said, I'm not really sure where this bombshell can safely be buried. A rich Winnu is one that will just churn out Metacol points, a rich Letnev with a third of the galaxy is crazy, a rich Sardakk would be terrifying, ghosts just got a system boost from the other agenda
I can be bought but all I'm after is avoiding my elimination
Homogeneous distribution of your varieties of amuse-gueule
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@Mojo_Jojo@Ketar If both of you agree to give all your votes to Mentak for Minister of Commerce, (1) I will pay you one trade good now, (2) I will give you free commodity refreshes every time I pick trade for the rest of the game (which I promise would be rather frequent), and (3) I will refrain from using pillage against you for the rest of the game.
Would you be willing to deliver on those 3 points if I helped you win this a different way? @Hedgethorn
It would be pretty outrageous to give this to Mentak. With that second racial you'd be richer than the Hacan.
That said, I'm not really sure where this bombshell can safely be buried. A rich Winnu is one that will just churn out Metacol points, a rich Letnev with a third of the galaxy is crazy, a rich Sardakk would be terrifying, ghosts winnu just got a system boost from the other agenda
I can be bought but all I'm after is avoiding my elimination
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
Mojo_Jojo Ketar If both of you agree to give all your votes to Mentak for Minister of Commerce, (1) I will pay you one trade good now, (2) I will give you free commodity refreshes every time I pick trade for the rest of the game (which I promise would be rather frequent), and (3) I will refrain from using pillage against you for the rest of the game.
Would you be willing to deliver on those 3 points if I helped you win this a different way? Hedgethorn
@Ketar If you're suggesting you'd play a rider to eliminate your votes from contention or the like, I can't absolutely guarantee I'd provide you all of #1-#3, but I'd definitely be in a favorable mood henceforth if I were elected.
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KetarCome on upstairswe're having a partyRegistered Userregular
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A rich Winnu is one that will just churn out Metacol points, a rich Letnev with a third of the galaxy is crazy, a rich Sardakk would be terrifying, ghosts just got a system boost from the other agenda
Huh? Ghosts just blew all their votes last agenda for nothing. Winnu got the boost.
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
No sabotage.
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Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
I feel ever so slightly victimised here
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KetarCome on upstairswe're having a partyRegistered Userregular
Not that it helps, but I feel bad about it.
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KetarCome on upstairswe're having a partyRegistered Userregular
It would be pretty outrageous to give this to Mentak. With that second racial you'd be richer than the Hacan.
That said, I'm not really sure where this bombshell can safely be buried. A rich Winnu is one that will just churn out Metacol points, a rich Letnev with a third of the galaxy is crazy, a rich Sardakk would be terrifying, ghosts just got a system boost from the other agenda
I can be bought but all I'm after is avoiding my elimination
Metacol points are bad.
Everyone else can just play on the secondary and get SOs to keep up.
Or deny me the 8 card completely.
But with the Agenda at hand, probably best to give it to either Mojo_Jojo or I, as we both have resource supply issues and are unlikely to surge ahead due to this.
@Ketar is your plan to play a rider next?
Cause if you played the rider first before the assassinate, then I'd be happy to not even look at sabotaging this second.
But that's not the order that's presented right now.
KetarCome on upstairswe're having a partyRegistered Userregular
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Because my intention was to ask @Hedgethorn to make the same offer to @Preda that he did to Mojo_Jojo and I. With Mojo-Jojo eliminated from voting, and me abstaining to play a rider, Preda's votes would guarantee winning this election. I'd even be willing to sweeten the pot for Preda if Hedgethorn were still willing to honor his original offer to me, since I would be gift wrapping things for him.
That said, I'm open to arguments for why Norr or Winnu should get this instead.
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
Ah, forgot that takes effect immediately.
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
@Preda, anything I can offer for your votes? I'd be happy to make the 1 TG + free refreshes + no pillaging commitment offer I made with Ketar.
Ah, yes. It should indeed by 9 votes for Winnu due to Terraforming Initiative.
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KetarCome on upstairswe're having a partyRegistered Userregular
So, here's how things look to me now: giving this to Mentak is a terribad idea that we probably should not do. They have 8 votes. I have 12. Winnu with 9. N'orr with 6. My preference would be to play a rider, in which case it comes down to N'orr deciding things between Mentak and Winnu. I would think that Preda would prefer Winnu to get it rather than Mentak, but Hedgethorn has offered a more substantial bribe than discrider has, so I can't be sure. @Preda I am also willing to give you free refreshes any time I take Trade if you vote for Winnu. Or, I could give you my racial promissory - given your combat bonuses and the likelihood of acquiring Exotriremes II soon, I suspect glorious battle is in your future. My promissory would help ensure one hell of a first round of combat in a major battle.
On the other hand, if it doesn't look like there is a likely winner and things are up in the air, I'll skip the rider and vote with my 12 votes. If I vote for any of the other 3 voters, they will win - no other combination of 2 would be able to beat us. In which case I'd be inclined to vote for Mentak despite it being a terribad idea, since at least I get something out of it.
I will also give free refreshes to everyone who votes for me. It is like, not a big deal or worth anything.
Otherwise I have no TG to give, and I can't stop Mentak pillaging people so..
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@Mojo_Jojo @Ketar If both of you agree to give all your votes to Mentak for Minister of Commerce, (1) I will pay you one trade good now, (2) I will give you free commodity refreshes every time I pick trade for the rest of the game (which I promise would be rather frequent), and (3) I will refrain from using pillage against you for the rest of the game.
That said, I'm not really sure where this bombshell can safely be buried. A rich Winnu is one that will just churn out Metacol points, a rich Letnev with a third of the galaxy is crazy, a rich Sardakk would be terrifying, ghosts just got a system boost from the other agenda
I can be bought but all I'm after is avoiding my elimination
Would you be willing to deliver on those 3 points if I helped you win this a different way? @Hedgethorn
@Ketar If you're suggesting you'd play a rider to eliminate your votes from contention or the like, I can't absolutely guarantee I'd provide you all of #1-#3, but I'd definitely be in a favorable mood henceforth if I were elected.
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Any sabotage?
Huh? Ghosts just blew all their votes last agenda for nothing. Winnu got the boost.
Sorry, it's what happens when Naalu and Letnev have half the remaining votes. I didn't think I could afford trying to pay off everyone at the table.
Cause I exhausted my two 4 vote planets, and 16 - 8 = 9.
Dubious math aside, sabotage or no?
Metacol points are bad.
Everyone else can just play on the secondary and get SOs to keep up.
Or deny me the 8 card completely.
But with the Agenda at hand, probably best to give it to either Mojo_Jojo or I, as we both have resource supply issues and are unlikely to surge ahead due to this.
If there is one person who should absolutely not win this, it's the Mentak.
For like 4 TG
Cause if you played the rider first before the assassinate, then I'd be happy to not even look at sabotaging this second.
But that's not the order that's presented right now.
Sakulag is untapped and is now 2I
That said, I'm open to arguments for why Norr or Winnu should get this instead.
But an extra Neighboursx2 resources each round doesn't hurt.
On the other hand, if it doesn't look like there is a likely winner and things are up in the air, I'll skip the rider and vote with my 12 votes. If I vote for any of the other 3 voters, they will win - no other combination of 2 would be able to beat us. In which case I'd be inclined to vote for Mentak despite it being a terribad idea, since at least I get something out of it.
Otherwise I have no TG to give, and I can't stop Mentak pillaging people so..