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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

    alright maybe I'll hold off for this then yeah?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

    alright maybe I'll hold off for this then yeah?

    I'm sure it'll give you time to build that small nuclear reactor you'd probably need to drive it.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Who says I need time for that?

    I certainly won't need a furnace for my house though.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Heatwave wrote: »
    Looks like Noctua is finally going to release CPU coolers with black fans included (also blacked heatsinks).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btP1LzbwYB4

    "Hey Kyle, what did we do with that palette of black spray paint?"

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Ebay's having a 20% off everything sale today at 7am PST.

    Assuming it all goes through, looks like I'm picking up that 1060 6gb, a new i-5 8600, some new RAM, and a new mobo.

    Whoops...sorry wallet.

    I wonder if I can put together a lower end ryzen CPU mobo and RAM combo for under $200 maybe $250

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    KarlKarl Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

    alright maybe I'll hold off for this then yeah?

    What would you even need that many threads for?

    I mean, do it because POWER but still

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    This rgb ram is pretty cool. I can make it strobe like the warp core on the Enterprise-D.

    Makes me want two more sticks of ram but that's pretty extravagant right now. Too bad they don't just make dumb ram with the LEDs I can stick in those slots.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    user wrote: »
    3clipse wrote: »
    BlazeFire wrote: »
    Was anyone holding out for new Nvidia GPUs?

    https://www.pcworld.com/article/3278095/components-graphics/no-geforce-gpus-g-sync-bfgds-nvidia.html
    The gamers hoping, wishing, and praying for a new generation of GeForce cards to arrive this week got some bad news from the company’s CEO during a Computex press briefing: The hardware won’t show up for a “long time.”

    Retroactively justifying my decision to purchase a 1080Ti, WHOO.

    Okay so they're going to release these multiple thousands of dollars new Monitors, that do 4K at 144hz while at the same time not releasing GPU architecture that measurably improves on the current 1080 Ti that at its best can only do about half of 144hz. Makes total sense.

    El oh motherfucking el if you're not Tri-SLI-ing overclocked Titan Xps...

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

    alright maybe I'll hold off for this then yeah?

    What would you even need that many threads for?

    I mean, do it because POWER but still

    How fast could that render Toy Story 1?

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    edited June 2018
    Ebay's having a 20% off everything sale today at 7am PST.

    Assuming it all goes through, looks like I'm picking up that 1060 6gb, a new i-5 8600, some new RAM, and a new mobo.

    Whoops...sorry wallet.

    I wonder if I can put together a lower end ryzen CPU mobo and RAM combo for under $200 maybe $250

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($90.98 @ Newegg)
    Total: $235.46
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-06 12:16 EDT-0400

    Bonus points: onboard vega graphics and expandable cas 14 ram.

    LD50 on
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    Kane Red RobeKane Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    This rgb ram is pretty cool. I can make it strobe like the warp core on the Enterprise-D.

    Makes me want two more sticks of ram but that's pretty extravagant right now. Too bad they don't just make dumb ram with the LEDs I can stick in those slots.

    I was able to find a pack made by Gigabyte that was 2x8gb 3200 with LEDs and 2xled dummy ram but I couldn't find them selling just the dummy sticks anywhere sadly.

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    AustinP0027AustinP0027 Registered User regular
    This rgb ram is pretty cool. I can make it strobe like the warp core on the Enterprise-D.

    Makes me want two more sticks of ram but that's pretty extravagant right now. Too bad they don't just make dumb ram with the LEDs I can stick in those slots.

    Gigabyte is coming out with this, but you have to buy their ram to get the light stick ones as well.

    https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/6/5/17425330/gigabyte-color-changing-ram-aorus-rgb-led-ddr4-controllable-computex

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

    alright maybe I'll hold off for this then yeah?

    What would you even need that many threads for?

    I mean, do it because POWER but still

    I do lots of heavy threading things.

    Compiling/encoding/multitasking in general

    I mean I probably don't need 64 of them, but still, why not?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    LD50 wrote: »
    Ebay's having a 20% off everything sale today at 7am PST.

    Assuming it all goes through, looks like I'm picking up that 1060 6gb, a new i-5 8600, some new RAM, and a new mobo.

    Whoops...sorry wallet.

    I wonder if I can put together a lower end ryzen CPU mobo and RAM combo for under $200 maybe $250

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($94.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock - A320M-DGS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($90.98 @ Newegg)
    Total: $235.46
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-06 12:16 EDT-0400

    Bonus points: onboard vega graphics and expandable cas 14 ram.

    Nice, but I was specifically thinking in the Ebay sale. But that makes a good starting point

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    wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

    alright maybe I'll hold off for this then yeah?

    What would you even need that many threads for?

    I mean, do it because POWER but still

    Hey now, I remember when the Pemtium Pro processor with MMX Technology was the pinnacle of computing and would be all anyone ever needed.

    Or being blown away when the Pentium III hit 1GHz. How would I ever need more than 1GHz of processing power?

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    That ram kit with the dummy sticks is a great idea, damn

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Karl wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

    alright maybe I'll hold off for this then yeah?

    What would you even need that many threads for?

    I mean, do it because POWER but still

    Hey now, I remember when the Pemtium Pro processor with MMX Technology was the pinnacle of computing and would be all anyone ever needed.

    Or being blown away when the Pentium III hit 1GHz. How would I ever need more than 1GHz of processing power?

    Those were definitely silly positions to take.

    However, creating a CUP like this that most people don't really need is what you do when you want devs to fill the space which creates a need for it later. It's not necessarily wrong, but neither is saying that we don't need that CPU now.

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    Success! Following the steps at the end of the StoreMI guide I managed to clean the drives and they showed up right away in the windows installer. It is now installing a fresh windows 10.

    Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions!

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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    New Question. Is there some program I should use to check cpu temp and fan speeds and such or should I just use the motherboard utility software

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    RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Cpu-Z and HWInfo are the two I see most commonly used. The software that comes with your motherboard will probably be fine also, but it might not show you as much data as cleanly. Mobo software tends to still be ALL LEET GAMER GRAFIX.

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    HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    New Question. Is there some program I should use to check cpu temp and fan speeds and such or should I just use the motherboard utility software

    speccy is alright as well, made by the ccleaner dudes

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    Cpu-Z and HWInfo are the two I see most commonly used. The software that comes with your motherboard will probably be fine also, but it might not show you as much data as cleanly. Mobo software tends to still be ALL LEET GAMER GRAFIX.

    These are good. I've never used Speccy. The thing is they don't let you adjust fan speeds. The MB software will let you make adjustments without need ing to boot to the BIOS. There may be other third party software that does, too. Corsair's Link utility is one of them. And also, GPU fan speeds typically are only controlled by software made by the cards manufacturer.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Coretemp is another option that's served me well in the past. Also, GPU-Z for gpu info.

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    useruser Registered User regular
    New Question. Is there some program I should use to check cpu temp and fan speeds and such or should I just use the motherboard utility software

    You can use Ryzen Master!!! Haha sorry for the exuberance, but it's unique to our platform, so why not.

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    useruser Registered User regular
    user wrote: »
    3clipse wrote: »
    BlazeFire wrote: »
    Was anyone holding out for new Nvidia GPUs?

    https://www.pcworld.com/article/3278095/components-graphics/no-geforce-gpus-g-sync-bfgds-nvidia.html
    The gamers hoping, wishing, and praying for a new generation of GeForce cards to arrive this week got some bad news from the company’s CEO during a Computex press briefing: The hardware won’t show up for a “long time.”

    Retroactively justifying my decision to purchase a 1080Ti, WHOO.

    Okay so they're going to release these multiple thousands of dollars new Monitors, that do 4K at 144hz while at the same time not releasing GPU architecture that measurably improves on the current 1080 Ti that at its best can only do about half of 144hz. Makes total sense.

    El oh motherfucking el if you're not Tri-SLI-ing overclocked Titan Xps...

    Haha, I know you jest, but so few games actually support nominal 2x GPU SLI these days, with anything to close to 2:1 performance (more like 10-30%). And absolutely no titles do a thing with 3 GPUs, literally some of them have bugs that make playing them with 3 GPUs installed in your system impossible.

    I'm very glad for this development. But I do eye roll hard when I see a youtuber make an SLI build these days.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    It would honestly be fine if unreal supported multigpu. They're the one renderer that does not, but they have such a huge part of the high end gaming market share that the realistic narrative is that 'no games support sli'.

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Ebay sale has me looking at a Ryzen 1600, msi B350 and 8gb cossair vengance for $280

    Little higher than I wanted to go...

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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Stupid Ebay sale is making me look at stupid phones because mine is a stupid ticking time bomb.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

    alright maybe I'll hold off for this then yeah?

    What would you even need that many threads for?

    I mean, do it because POWER but still

    How fast could that render Toy Story 1?

    boy that's an interesting question, could modern regular-ass gaming PCs render Toy Story 1 at real time speeds or faster? I wonder.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    edited June 2018
    Karl wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    wunderbar wrote: »
    Yo Dawgs, I hear you like cores. I got you some cores for your cores.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/5/17432568/amd-threadripper-32-core-processor-gaming-computex-2018

    AMD promising a 32 core threadripper this year. That would have 64 threads.

    alright maybe I'll hold off for this then yeah?

    What would you even need that many threads for?

    I mean, do it because POWER but still

    How fast could that render Toy Story 1?

    boy that's an interesting question, could modern regular-ass gaming PCs render Toy Story 1 at real time speeds or faster? I wonder.

    I think it was something like 4 hours of rendering time a frame. So moore's law could give us a rough estimate, probably close to something like 10 seconds theoretical max? Probably real world more like 2-5 minutes a frame?

    But that's a cluster mainframe setup of 1994(?) vs a cluster mainframe setup of 2018 I guess, consumer level PCs ... I dunno.. maybe an hour a frame again (per core)?

    bowen on
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    there must have been dramatic efficiency improvements to rendering techniques since the 90s as well as simple processing speed increases, musn't there?

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    [Michael][Michael] Registered User regular
    I might finally upgrade one of my development machines. It's from 2012: Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge, 8GB 1200 RAM, and a HDD. Here's what I found:

    Mushkin M.2 2280 250GB NVMe $79 (-20% => $63)
    16GB 3200 RAM $180 (-20% => $144)
    Ryzen 5 2600X $229 (-20% => $183)
    GIGABYTE AB350M-DS3H ($65)

    Getting the first 3 from newegg via eBay and the last one direct from newegg, it's $457. The mobo reviews seeem to indicate I shouldn't run into compatibility issues with the 2600X thanks to updated BIOS on the shipped boards.

    Any recommended changes? I'm pretty barebones about features, I just need performance.

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    LD50LD50 Registered User regular
    Using some napkin math, 1 GTX 1080ti can render a frame of toy story in about 1 second. So if you had 24 of them...

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    there must have been dramatic efficiency improvements to rendering techniques since the 90s as well as simple processing speed increases, musn't there?

    Shit you could probably get an SLI setup that can beat out a mainframe of CPUs.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    So you're saying crypto wouldn't be worth it?

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    GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    32 cores is just so deliciously pointless for all but probably 0.5% of desktop users in the world. Good on you AMD for pushing the boundaries either way.

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    MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Ok, so what eBay stores/accounts are you guys checking out?

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    bloodatonementbloodatonement Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Ok, so what eBay stores/accounts are you guys checking out?

    Sales over, and I didn't pull the trigger in time. But I had looked at Newegg (reports of pricing shenanigans from them) and then just searched for the gear I wanted.

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    Inquisitor77Inquisitor77 2 x Penny Arcade Fight Club Champion A fixed point in space and timeRegistered User regular
    Amazon has the T-Mobile AC-1900 Router available for $48 (refurbished), which is a steal.

    Why?

    Because it is more commonly known as the ASUS RT-AC68U, one of the best wireless routers on the market today.

    If you aren't afraid of some firmware shenanigans, it's an incredibly cheap way to get a $150 router. And for $20 more you can get the non-refurb (just search on Amazon).

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