Just turned on NBC nightly news and the first thing I heard was someone talking about how they see 5,000 migrants a week, and how the military will be a bandage but it isn't a final solution -- the final solution has to come from Congress.
Do... Do people just not stop to think about what that kind of wording means? Or do you think they know 100%
Yeeeeeeah...they've dropped all pretense of dog-whistling their intent and gone straight for tsunami siren.
Facebook is claiming the ad was approved for their platform in error.
How the heck is CNN the one that showed some dignity?
Honestly they probably had a policy to auto-approve any ad from a “trusted” source like one of the two major parties without much review as to content. I am sure there’s a certain amount of trust with repeat content providers and they don’t bother to screen every Toyota ad to make sure it doesn’t have tits in it or whatever.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration discussed using the U.S. military to build facilities to house detained migrants as part of its new mission on the Mexican border but the idea was dropped after the Pentagon expressed doubts about it, U.S. officials said.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration discussed using the U.S. military to build facilities to house detained migrants as part of its new mission on the Mexican border but the idea was dropped after the Pentagon expressed doubts about it, U.S. officials said.
One U.S. official cautioned that a previous Trump administration request dating back to spring for U.S. National Guard troops to build facilities for migrants on U.S. bases was still being deliberated. But, the official noted, that was not expected to be part of Faithful Patriot and the timing of any such future mission was unclear.
The troops deployed to the southern U.S. border to support existing border authorities once a band of Honduran migrants completes its journey from southern Mexico will cost $220 million, CNBC reported, citing two anonymous sources.
There are about 4,000 troops near the border since this weekend and, ultimately a total of 15,000 could be deployed if Trump gets his way. According to documents detailed by Newsweek and the Washington Post, the military itself expects only “a small percentage of the migrants will likely reach the border.” A risk assessment by the Defense Department “found that the caravan did not pose a threat to the United States,” and that “the caravan would take about a month and a half to get to the U.S. border,” according to CNBC.
Forgive me, but does the Pentagon really get any say? I didn't think it was up to them to "allow" anything.
Everyone in the military is legally required to refuse unlawful orders.
Yeah, but go sit on this patch of soil isn't necessarily unlawful.
From the tweet and article that’s not what was requested. DHS was requesting people for law enforcement which the Pentagon rightfully declined.
I thought it was in response to this:
Wait a minute, so the Pentagon is going to allow a multi-million dollar military expedition to our border with Mexico to have US Army members... camp and do nothing else?
Because he can lawfully tell the Pentagon to send ~20k troops to hang out around El Paso and look scary. It's just a stupid thing to do that will waste a lot of money and ruin a lot of Thanksgivings for no reason.
That seems... silly? Why would you think it’s a question to Henroid’s hypothetical and not the article about the Pentagon?
It was definitely a question to Henroid's hypothetical. I'm not American so I was just curious about the way it would all work. Thanks for the reminder about not following illegal orders.
The troops deployed to the southern U.S. border to support existing border authorities once a band of Honduran migrants completes its journey from southern Mexico will cost $220 million, CNBC reported, citing two anonymous sources.
There are about 4,000 troops near the border since this weekend and, ultimately a total of 15,000 could be deployed if Trump gets his way. According to documents detailed by Newsweek and the Washington Post, the military itself expects only “a small percentage of the migrants will likely reach the border.” A risk assessment by the Defense Department “found that the caravan did not pose a threat to the United States,” and that “the caravan would take about a month and a half to get to the U.S. border,” according to CNBC.
Someone in the military is aware that if they slowwalk this past literally tomorrow the proposal will vanish into the ether until *checks watch* half past 2019.
looks like the pentagon is trying to maintain some semblance of posse comitatus, which is why the deployments so far have been logistics/support/PR
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Am glad someone in the chain of command is being rational.
Wonder how long it'll take Trump to organize their reassignment.
He doesn't care, he just wants to sound tough and swing a militaristic dick around.
this sentence ends with "retain the Senate". that's all this is. Even Shep Smith from Fox has said it, on air.
it's 150% politics.
I'm pretty sure he believes his own bullshit when it comes to the border and white supremacy. The concentration camps for Orphans of the State aren't an accident.
Good thing the US military's budget was raised recently, to help account for Trump apparently planning to waste around a quarter billion dollars on a political stunt.
Forar on
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
has there been any indication that Trump is not a white genocide conspiracy theorist
because i'm seeing a lot of evidence for
He frets in the usual roundabout ways about The Jews(tm), considers immigrants from nonwhite countries not to be people coming to the US from their homelands, but rather weapons sent to the US from their homelands with the intent of harming American society, and has openly tied those two fears together.
He might not have actually tweeted the words yet, but the man is absolutely a white genocide conspiracy theorist.
has there been any indication that Trump is not a white genocide conspiracy theorist
because i'm seeing a lot of evidence for
He frets in the usual roundabout ways about The Jews(tm), considers immigrants from nonwhite countries not to be people coming to the US from their homelands, but rather weapons sent to the US from their homelands with the intent of harming American society, and has openly tied those two fears together.
He might not have actually tweeted the words yet, but the man is absolutely a white genocide conspiracy theorist.
I mean, he's a Fox News viewer. He's literally the old white people who watch Fox News, but he's rich and now President. Of course he believes in white genocide. That's what Fox News teaches it's viewers.
Here is something I just caught. In a report about the planning documents for the military border deployment, there is something that caught my eye... (my own emphasis added below)
the military is preparing to defend against an “estimated 200 unregulated armed militia members currently operating along the [Southwest Border]. Reported Incidents of unregulated militias stealing National Guard equipment during deployments. They operate under the guise of citizen patrols supporting [Customs and Border Patrol] primarily between [Points of Entry].”
The term "unregulated militia" super stands out to me... Why, because the second amendment says...
Where the hell does stealing stuff from The Goddamned Army figure into these idiots' self-image?
Honestly it barely even occurs to them that they are committing a very serious crime, or that they may, or should, face consequences for it.
At best in their minds all of their lawlessness, and revolution threats are 100% justifiable while all others are inexcusable.
There is non-zero overlap between militias and groups who don't recognize the legitimacy of the federal government, and I suspect more than a few "minutemen" have some foundational issues with our tax code.
Where they will win, because it's SCOTUS which is stacked now, and because it's SCOTUS it doesn't matter what lower courts think.
Yeah, but that just pushes the SCOTUS further into a credibility crisis. The modern court is well known for pushing cases away because of a very (IMO) "by the book take" on lack of standing and/or jurisdictional issues. It's going to be pretty instructive if they're suddenly gung-ho to take express lane bypassed cases from Justice that buck those standards.
It amazes me all these support the troops ostensibly pro military people are happy to completely ignore the official military assessment in favour of their own paranoid racist fantasies
It amazes me all these support the troops ostensibly pro military people are happy to completely ignore the official military assessment in favour of their own paranoid racist fantasies
It’s military intelligence. Intelligence implies education, education implies liberal, and liberal is synonymous with the GAY ISLAM GLOBALIST CONSPIRACY that HATES AMERICA and brings in ILLEGAL SOROS CARAVANS and WAR ON CHRISTMAS.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
It amazes me all these support the troops ostensibly pro military people are happy to completely ignore the official military assessment in favour of their own paranoid racist fantasies
It’s military intelligence. Intelligence implies education, education implies liberal, and liberal is synonymous with the GAY ISLAM GLOBALIST CONSPIRACY that HATES AMERICA and brings in ILLEGAL SOROS CARAVANS and WAR ON CHRISTMAS.
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NBC went "oopsy" after airing the ad.
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Facebook is claiming the ad was approved for their platform in error.
How the heck is CNN the one that showed some dignity?
Honestly they probably had a policy to auto-approve any ad from a “trusted” source like one of the two major parties without much review as to content. I am sure there’s a certain amount of trust with repeat content providers and they don’t bother to screen every Toyota ad to make sure it doesn’t have tits in it or whatever.
Good thing nobody watches live football on TV on Sundays, otherwise it would have gotten a huge audience.
Why does that sound fucking ominous?
It’s not a very important country most of the time
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Because it sounds better in the original German.
That would be "Operation treuer Patriot"
I legit keep reading it as "Fearful" Patriot.
It was definitely a question to Henroid's hypothetical. I'm not American so I was just curious about the way it would all work. Thanks for the reminder about not following illegal orders.
(Sorry for the delay as well. Thread moved fast.)
this sentence ends with "retain the Senate". that's all this is. Even Shep Smith from Fox has said it, on air.
it's 150% politics.
Someone in the military is aware that if they slowwalk this past literally tomorrow the proposal will vanish into the ether until *checks watch* half past 2019.
I'm pretty sure he believes his own bullshit when it comes to the border and white supremacy. The concentration camps for Orphans of the State aren't an accident.
because i'm seeing a lot of evidence for
The strongest argument that hes not one is that he's not anything in particular. The difference is probably academic and not practical though.
He frets in the usual roundabout ways about The Jews(tm), considers immigrants from nonwhite countries not to be people coming to the US from their homelands, but rather weapons sent to the US from their homelands with the intent of harming American society, and has openly tied those two fears together.
He might not have actually tweeted the words yet, but the man is absolutely a white genocide conspiracy theorist.
He was apparently congratulating Chattanooga last night on their very good genes.
And has repeatedly talked about his own very good genes and talked about people like they're race horses in the past
Dude's a dunning-kruger eugenicist.
man it's amazing how many replies to every political tweet are by accounts under 2 years old that exclusively post right wing slogans as replies
I mean, he's a Fox News viewer. He's literally the old white people who watch Fox News, but he's rich and now President. Of course he believes in white genocide. That's what Fox News teaches it's viewers.
Worth remembering this would put him pretty solidly in the middle of white dudes in their 70s.
The term "unregulated militia" super stands out to me... Why, because the second amendment says...
If something stupid goes down. I can see the court argument of "Well, They were not a regulated militia" from orbit.
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Adding source:
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/10/31/deployed-border-troops-are-preparing-for-militias-stealing-their-gear-protester-violence-documents-show/
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They're trying to skip the appeals process and go straight to SCOTUS.
Where they will win, because it's SCOTUS which is stacked now, and because it's SCOTUS it doesn't matter what lower courts think.
Honestly it barely even occurs to them that they are committing a very serious crime, or that they may, or should, face consequences for it.
At best in their minds all of their lawlessness, and revolution threats are 100% justifiable while all others are inexcusable.
They can't commit a crime because they are sovereign to themself.
There is non-zero overlap between militias and groups who don't recognize the legitimacy of the federal government, and I suspect more than a few "minutemen" have some foundational issues with our tax code.
I mean, they're cosplayers at heart. Gotta get some new costume pieces.
Yeah, but that just pushes the SCOTUS further into a credibility crisis. The modern court is well known for pushing cases away because of a very (IMO) "by the book take" on lack of standing and/or jurisdictional issues. It's going to be pretty instructive if they're suddenly gung-ho to take express lane bypassed cases from Justice that buck those standards.
It’s military intelligence. Intelligence implies education, education implies liberal, and liberal is synonymous with the GAY ISLAM GLOBALIST CONSPIRACY that HATES AMERICA and brings in ILLEGAL SOROS CARAVANS and WAR ON CHRISTMAS.
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It's sad how much Colbert's exaggeration was so completely underselling things.