there's basically two ways to use religion: the first is to go for an outright religious victory, which can actually be really easy if you couple it with a judicious war or two against your main competitors. The second way is to use your pantheon/religion as a another lever for whatever victory condition you're actually pursuing: get bonuses to culture, buy units or the choicest great people, etc
it was the smallest on the list but
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Same, though I knew I'd get it eventually. This seems to have some really interesting new layers so I'll probably look for a deal on both in a few months.
The rumor mills have been swirling on this, and the funny thing is that they’ve all been pretty different on civs/leaders. I wonder if they have been intentionally giving different info to translators and testers to ferret things out.
Inca and Maori/polynesia seem likely from the trailer though.
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I'm 100% tinfoil hatting here, but there was a globe in the background of the stream set that had a little target icon in the mid atlantic, so maybe Atlantis is in.
It's not, for sure. But it would be a wild addition and lean into the sea level stuff in a fun way.
The rumor mills have been swirling on this, and the funny thing is that they’ve all been pretty different on civs/leaders. I wonder if they have been intentionally giving different info to translators and testers to ferret things out.
Inca and Maori/polynesia seem likely from the trailer though.
As far as I can tell, there have been two main guys claiming to be leakers. One had a pretty plausible sounding list of civs, but his other info has all been contradicted by this reveal, exposing him as a fraud. The other guy's info has all been corroborated so far though, and he even has in-game screenshots of three of the leaders, so he appears to be legit.
Golden Gate Bridge wonder
England gets a very different ability. Accumulating coal resources? Bonus to powered buildings.
A god damn build queue!
What looks like a Cahokia wonder. Usually new wonders come with a Civilization, so one of the Mississippians?
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I haven't looked up anything beyond that trailer, but can I assume that they're considering a new Era as in functional Era in the gameplay? Something after Information Age that is.
Edit - Polygon article. Expansion is adding 8 new civs to play as, natural disasters, and man-made climate change will be a factor in the game (and you can research tech in the of prevention / curbing it).
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Yeah that came up in the stream, it's an extra era with 3 new governments, culture and science stuff, looking forward to the 2050ish period with some hypotheticals.
I haven't looked up anything beyond that trailer, but can I assume that they're considering a new Era as in functional Era in the gameplay? Something after Information Age that is.
Edit - Polygon article. Expansion is adding 8 new civs to play as, natural disasters, and man-made climate change will be a factor in the game (and you can research tech in the of prevention / curbing it).
They are, with a random tech tree because we don't know how things will progress.
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This is a pretty substantial expansion. I was wondering why things have been so quiet. And we're just a couple months away from it! AAAAAAA!
Future era is neat, I wonder if they will push back all the ending conditions. There was a nice future era civ5 mod but you had to turn off everything but dom with it if you wanted to see it.
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Oh man, I'm going to need to make sure my PC is fixed in time for this
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I'm trying to think of what the three new governments could possibly be, if they're making an era based on current human history. We already have Communism, Democracy, and Fascism. So what comes after those? Where has humanity gone from those three things? My first two thoughts are Socialism and Capitalism Corporatism.
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I suspect corporatist/libertarian (like Singapore), some kind of cultural/digital liberal system, and technocracy/new industrialism.
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I vote for the Ant overlord govt system. I for one welcome our Ant overlords.
Future era is neat, I wonder if they will push back all the ending conditions. There was a nice future era civ5 mod but you had to turn off everything but dom with it if you wanted to see it.
The devs mentioned in the stream that three of the four existing victory types, military, science, and culture, are being slightly revamped to accommodate the new era. Religious victory is staying the same because it's intended to be an early rush victory type that's possible to achieve way before the others.
The rumor mills have been swirling on this, and the funny thing is that they’ve all been pretty different on civs/leaders. I wonder if they have been intentionally giving different info to translators and testers to ferret things out.
Inca and Maori/polynesia seem likely from the trailer though.
As far as I can tell, there have been two main guys claiming to be leakers. One had a pretty plausible sounding list of civs, but his other info has all been contradicted by this reveal, exposing him as a fraud. The other guy's info has all been corroborated so far though, and he even has in-game screenshots of three of the leaders, so he appears to be legit.
I don’t know, two of the leader pictures shown were previously leaked, so who knows, and one was all but confirmed by the trailer anyway.
I just know that now I am psyched for Mansa Musa and the Ottomans, so if they are fake I’m going to be disappointed.
The rumor mills have been swirling on this, and the funny thing is that they’ve all been pretty different on civs/leaders. I wonder if they have been intentionally giving different info to translators and testers to ferret things out.
Inca and Maori/polynesia seem likely from the trailer though.
As far as I can tell, there have been two main guys claiming to be leakers. One had a pretty plausible sounding list of civs, but his other info has all been contradicted by this reveal, exposing him as a fraud. The other guy's info has all been corroborated so far though, and he even has in-game screenshots of three of the leaders, so he appears to be legit.
I don’t know, two of the leader pictures shown were previously leaked, so who knows, and one was all but confirmed by the trailer anyway.
I just know that now I am psyched for Mansa Musa and the Ottomans, so if they are fake I’m going to be disappointed.
There's a lot more evidence than that of the leaker's legitimacy though.
For one thing, he's been using the alias "Assembling Typhoon" for six months, so he's known the name of the expansion for at least that long.
He also correctly spoiled all the expansion's mechanics, including stuff like electricity yields, both months ago on message boards and right before the trailer went up in YouTube chat.
Aside from the leader/civ list, here are a few things he's leaked that haven't been confirmed yet. Do not look if you would rather wait until this information is revealed officially!
Leaders will now be chosen independently from civs in game setup. There are a few implications here. One is that, in addition to having an option to disallow two players choosing the same leader, you can also disallow two players choosing the same civ. Another is that "elective leaders mode" from Civ 4, which allowed any leader to be paired with any civ, may be returning.
He has also said that Firaxis intends to release another expansion in 2020. They want Civ 6 to have a longer tail than previous games in the series.
The rumor mills have been swirling on this, and the funny thing is that they’ve all been pretty different on civs/leaders. I wonder if they have been intentionally giving different info to translators and testers to ferret things out.
Inca and Maori/polynesia seem likely from the trailer though.
As far as I can tell, there have been two main guys claiming to be leakers. One had a pretty plausible sounding list of civs, but his other info has all been contradicted by this reveal, exposing him as a fraud. The other guy's info has all been corroborated so far though, and he even has in-game screenshots of three of the leaders, so he appears to be legit.
I don’t know, two of the leader pictures shown were previously leaked, so who knows, and one was all but confirmed by the trailer anyway.
I just know that now I am psyched for Mansa Musa and the Ottomans, so if they are fake I’m going to be disappointed.
There's a lot more evidence than that of the leaker's legitimacy though.
For one thing, he's been using the alias "Assembling Typhoon" for six months, so he's known the name of the expansion for at least that long.
He also correctly spoiled all the expansion's mechanics, including stuff like electricity yields, both months ago on message boards and right before the trailer went up in YouTube chat.
Aside from the leader/civ list, here are a few things he's leaked that haven't been confirmed yet. Do not look if you would rather wait until this information is revealed officially!
Leaders will now be chosen independently from civs in game setup. There are a few implications here. One is that, in addition to having an option to disallow two players choosing the same leader, you can also disallow two players choosing the same civ. Another is that "elective leaders mode" from Civ 4, which allowed any leader to be paired with any civ, may be returning.
He has also said that Firaxis intends to release another expansion in 2020. They want Civ 6 to have a longer tail than previous games in the series.
That last bit is great, and might explain some still missing classic civs like Babylon, Portugal, or Byzantines.
The leaked list did seem pretty much like a civ 6 civ list. A few usual suspect returners (ottomans, inca,mali, phoenecia(carthage)), a couple of small countries with interesting histories (Maori, Hungary), a couple of countries that are big markets or fan centers (Canada, Sweden) and an alternate leader from out in left field that makes a lot of sense in retrospect (Elanor d’Aquitaine).
Nothing from asia, but asia is pretty well represented already. Islamic medeival civs were pretty poorly represented so far so having two of them makes sense, phoenicia with dido hits the fertile crescent/ancient civ spot which also has been fairly underrepresented so far, so not bad really especially if more is to come.
The rumor mills have been swirling on this, and the funny thing is that they’ve all been pretty different on civs/leaders. I wonder if they have been intentionally giving different info to translators and testers to ferret things out.
Inca and Maori/polynesia seem likely from the trailer though.
As far as I can tell, there have been two main guys claiming to be leakers. One had a pretty plausible sounding list of civs, but his other info has all been contradicted by this reveal, exposing him as a fraud. The other guy's info has all been corroborated so far though, and he even has in-game screenshots of three of the leaders, so he appears to be legit.
I don’t know, two of the leader pictures shown were previously leaked, so who knows, and one was all but confirmed by the trailer anyway.
I just know that now I am psyched for Mansa Musa and the Ottomans, so if they are fake I’m going to be disappointed.
There's a lot more evidence than that of the leaker's legitimacy though.
For one thing, he's been using the alias "Assembling Typhoon" for six months, so he's known the name of the expansion for at least that long.
He also correctly spoiled all the expansion's mechanics, including stuff like electricity yields, both months ago on message boards and right before the trailer went up in YouTube chat.
Aside from the leader/civ list, here are a few things he's leaked that haven't been confirmed yet. Do not look if you would rather wait until this information is revealed officially!
Leaders will now be chosen independently from civs in game setup. There are a few implications here. One is that, in addition to having an option to disallow two players choosing the same leader, you can also disallow two players choosing the same civ. Another is that "elective leaders mode" from Civ 4, which allowed any leader to be paired with any civ, may be returning.
He has also said that Firaxis intends to release another expansion in 2020. They want Civ 6 to have a longer tail than previous games in the series.
That last bit is great, and might explain some still missing classic civs like Babylon, Portugal, or Byzantines.
The leaked list did seem pretty much like a civ 6 civ list. A few usual suspect returners (ottomans, inca,mali, phoenecia(carthage)), a couple of small countries with interesting histories (Maori, Hungary), a couple of countries that are big markets or fan centers (Canada, Sweden) and an alternate leader from out in left field that makes a lot of sense in retrospect (Elanor d’Aquitaine).
Nothing from asia, but asia is pretty well represented already. Islamic medeival civs were pretty poorly represented so far so having two of them makes sense, phoenicia with dido hits the fertile crescent/ancient civ spot which also has been fairly underrepresented so far, so not bad really especially if more is to come.
Fun bit of trivia:
Now that Canada is getting their own civ, Italy will be the nation with highest population of gamers to have never had one. A potential candidate for the 2020 expansion?
The rumor mills have been swirling on this, and the funny thing is that they’ve all been pretty different on civs/leaders. I wonder if they have been intentionally giving different info to translators and testers to ferret things out.
Inca and Maori/polynesia seem likely from the trailer though.
As far as I can tell, there have been two main guys claiming to be leakers. One had a pretty plausible sounding list of civs, but his other info has all been contradicted by this reveal, exposing him as a fraud. The other guy's info has all been corroborated so far though, and he even has in-game screenshots of three of the leaders, so he appears to be legit.
I don’t know, two of the leader pictures shown were previously leaked, so who knows, and one was all but confirmed by the trailer anyway.
I just know that now I am psyched for Mansa Musa and the Ottomans, so if they are fake I’m going to be disappointed.
There's a lot more evidence than that of the leaker's legitimacy though.
For one thing, he's been using the alias "Assembling Typhoon" for six months, so he's known the name of the expansion for at least that long.
He also correctly spoiled all the expansion's mechanics, including stuff like electricity yields, both months ago on message boards and right before the trailer went up in YouTube chat.
Aside from the leader/civ list, here are a few things he's leaked that haven't been confirmed yet. Do not look if you would rather wait until this information is revealed officially!
Leaders will now be chosen independently from civs in game setup. There are a few implications here. One is that, in addition to having an option to disallow two players choosing the same leader, you can also disallow two players choosing the same civ. Another is that "elective leaders mode" from Civ 4, which allowed any leader to be paired with any civ, may be returning.
He has also said that Firaxis intends to release another expansion in 2020. They want Civ 6 to have a longer tail than previous games in the series.
That last bit is great, and might explain some still missing classic civs like Babylon, Portugal, or Byzantines.
The leaked list did seem pretty much like a civ 6 civ list. A few usual suspect returners (ottomans, inca,mali, phoenecia(carthage)), a couple of small countries with interesting histories (Maori, Hungary), a couple of countries that are big markets or fan centers (Canada, Sweden) and an alternate leader from out in left field that makes a lot of sense in retrospect (Elanor d’Aquitaine).
Nothing from asia, but asia is pretty well represented already. Islamic medeival civs were pretty poorly represented so far so having two of them makes sense, phoenicia with dido hits the fertile crescent/ancient civ spot which also has been fairly underrepresented so far, so not bad really especially if more is to come.
Fun bit of trivia:
Now that Canada is getting their own civ, Italy will be the nation with highest population of gamers to have never had one. A potential candidate for the 2020 expansion?
They have been pretty heavily requested for a while. Would definitely not be surprised if they get into a 4th expansion. The biggest issue is overlap with rome but they have had Byzantines and Ottomans together in civ before, or an Arab civ with Baghdad as a capital and Babylon. Italy ranks right up there with Israel as civs that were hugely influential but never had much civ representation IMHO.
That is unfortunate... Expansion seems right up my alley, but unless they go so far as to include actual rule based landscape evolution it is going to be really hard to justify 2 expansions worth of clumsy AI.
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big, old breakdown here but the bullet points are global warming, natural disasters and diplomatic victory are all in.
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The rumor mills have been swirling on this, and the funny thing is that they’ve all been pretty different on civs/leaders. I wonder if they have been intentionally giving different info to translators and testers to ferret things out.
Inca and Maori/polynesia seem likely from the trailer though.
It's not, for sure. But it would be a wild addition and lean into the sea level stuff in a fun way.
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As far as I can tell, there have been two main guys claiming to be leakers. One had a pretty plausible sounding list of civs, but his other info has all been contradicted by this reveal, exposing him as a fraud. The other guy's info has all been corroborated so far though, and he even has in-game screenshots of three of the leaders, so he appears to be legit.
Golden Gate Bridge wonder
England gets a very different ability. Accumulating coal resources? Bonus to powered buildings.
A god damn build queue!
What looks like a Cahokia wonder. Usually new wonders come with a Civilization, so one of the Mississippians?
Edit - Polygon article. Expansion is adding 8 new civs to play as, natural disasters, and man-made climate change will be a factor in the game (and you can research tech in the of prevention / curbing it).
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They are, with a random tech tree because we don't know how things will progress.
The devs mentioned in the stream that three of the four existing victory types, military, science, and culture, are being slightly revamped to accommodate the new era. Religious victory is staying the same because it's intended to be an early rush victory type that's possible to achieve way before the others.
Firaxis and/or 2K seems to agree with you since it's up for pre-order on steam for $40.
This is the correct opinion.
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I don’t know, two of the leader pictures shown were previously leaked, so who knows, and one was all but confirmed by the trailer anyway.
I just know that now I am psyched for Mansa Musa and the Ottomans, so if they are fake I’m going to be disappointed.
There's a lot more evidence than that of the leaker's legitimacy though.
For one thing, he's been using the alias "Assembling Typhoon" for six months, so he's known the name of the expansion for at least that long.
He also correctly spoiled all the expansion's mechanics, including stuff like electricity yields, both months ago on message boards and right before the trailer went up in YouTube chat.
Aside from the leader/civ list, here are a few things he's leaked that haven't been confirmed yet. Do not look if you would rather wait until this information is revealed officially!
He has also said that Firaxis intends to release another expansion in 2020. They want Civ 6 to have a longer tail than previous games in the series.
The leaked list did seem pretty much like a civ 6 civ list. A few usual suspect returners (ottomans, inca,mali, phoenecia(carthage)), a couple of small countries with interesting histories (Maori, Hungary), a couple of countries that are big markets or fan centers (Canada, Sweden) and an alternate leader from out in left field that makes a lot of sense in retrospect (Elanor d’Aquitaine).
Nothing from asia, but asia is pretty well represented already. Islamic medeival civs were pretty poorly represented so far so having two of them makes sense, phoenicia with dido hits the fertile crescent/ancient civ spot which also has been fairly underrepresented so far, so not bad really especially if more is to come.
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Don't think any expansions have been announced for the switch version. Switch version just came out while Rise and Fall has been out for 9 months.
I am not hopeful on that front.
Is the Switch version equivalent to the new "Gold" one though (i.e. already has R&F built in)
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Everything I've read says no. It has some of the engine improvements and rules tweaks but not the major systems or civs that R&F added.