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US Government Shutdown 2018/2019 - read mod post on pg 23

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    This is just odd fucking news.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/17/politics/tom-marino-announces-resignation/index.html
    Rep. Tom Marino, a Pennsylvania Republican, announced Thursday he'll resign from Congress to pursue a private sector job, after just starting his fifth term in Congress.

    "As of January 23, 2019, I am officially stepping down from Congress," Marino said in a statement. "Having spent over two decades serving the public, I have chosen to take a position in the private sector where I can use both my legal and business experience to create jobs around the nation."

    Marino thanked his constituents, saying serving in Congress was "one of the greatest honors of my life" and was "confident that the area will continue to thrive."

    Marino won 66% of the vote in November and his district covers a wide swath of northern and central Pennsylvania.
    He was an early Trump supporter among congressional Republicans. He was nominated to be the president's Drug Czar but withdrew after a joint CBS "60 Minutes" and Washington Post report revealed he took nearly $100,000 from pharmaceutical lobbyists.

    Forget TSA agents, even Congressional Reps are leaving government jobs for more stability. Honestly this has the feel of an "I'm about to be indicted" retirement to me, That seat is so safe, it'd be his job for life if he wanted it

    And the Dems margin in the house increased by 1, at least temporarily.



    e: Looked it up, it is a Special Election position.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    Trump thinks he is "winning" this.

    CNN reporter:


    He is going to keep this going forever, isn't he? As a Washington Post reporter has said,

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Trump pays McConnell for preventing votes in the Senate in the most subtle way he can.

    Meridith McGraw of ABC:Inbox: "President Donald J. Trump today announced his intent to designate the Honorable Elaine L. Chao to be Co-Chair of the White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders."

    So I guess this will probably last at least through the sotu and hopefully enough tsa workers strike that super bowl related travel is just a gigantic fiasco.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Cilizza must have been on TV then.

    Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    As an asian american I politely decline any initiatives on my behalf associated with the White House or Chao.

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    I ZimbraI Zimbra Worst song, played on ugliest guitar Registered User regular
    Hevach wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    So of course Trump is fundraising off of this.

    AP reporter

    The Trump 2020 campaign is having a serious problem with the shutdown. They're seeing their base solidify - as they lose everyone else in the process.

    I think he’s beginning to lose some of the base too.

    The last polls I've seen the last couple days aren't exactly something that would worry a normal president - his steel grip on his base is still cast iron and not going anywhere. But Trump isn't a normal president, he's an ego monster who's always had obsession with his poll numbers and attendance counts, so his world might be ending.

    It's also important because Trump has absolutely no margin of error for 2020. Given his terrible splits on independent voters he can't lose any of his base and have a credible path to victory. Given that the purpose of the shutdown is to fire up the base they should be looking to go ahead and pull the ripcord, re-open the government, declare victory and blame everything on the Dems. Doesn't look like they're going that way, though.



    CNN White House reporter

    I believe that they believe they fuckin' nailed it.

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    GyralGyral Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    Trump pays McConnell for preventing votes in the Senate in the most subtle way he can.

    Meridith McGraw of ABC:Inbox: "President Donald J. Trump today announced his intent to designate the Honorable Elaine L. Chao to be Co-Chair of the White House Initiative on Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders."

    So I guess this will probably last at least through the sotu and hopefully enough tsa workers strike that super bowl related travel is just a gigantic fiasco.
    Which would be a bonus for Trump. He gets to stick it to the NFL during their biggest game and oh fuck over them dirty libs as well? I'm sure that would make him happy.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    I Zimbra wrote: »
    Hevach wrote: »
    Marathon wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    So of course Trump is fundraising off of this.

    AP reporter

    The Trump 2020 campaign is having a serious problem with the shutdown. They're seeing their base solidify - as they lose everyone else in the process.

    I think he’s beginning to lose some of the base too.

    The last polls I've seen the last couple days aren't exactly something that would worry a normal president - his steel grip on his base is still cast iron and not going anywhere. But Trump isn't a normal president, he's an ego monster who's always had obsession with his poll numbers and attendance counts, so his world might be ending.

    It's also important because Trump has absolutely no margin of error for 2020. Given his terrible splits on independent voters he can't lose any of his base and have a credible path to victory. Given that the purpose of the shutdown is to fire up the base they should be looking to go ahead and pull the ripcord, re-open the government, declare victory and blame everything on the Dems. Doesn't look like they're going that way, though.



    CNN White House reporter

    I believe that they believe they fuckin' nailed it.

    POTUS asks why Dems look like they have the upper hand? Because they do you dipshit. Over half of the population didn't want the wall to start with, and they extra don't want the government shut down over it.

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    It's a good move for Trump in a weird way. By responding in a petty way, he's made it a tit for tat petty exchange, bringing Pelosi down to his level in a way. The media coverage in seeing headlines that way, too.

    What is this I don't even.
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    Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    CNN just popped up, WH has canceled Davos trip.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    Well one trip is still on....

    Josh Dawsey of Washington Post: Trip for senior White House aides/Cabinet members to Davos is still on, per a senior White House aide.

    Let's cancel a congressional trip at the very last second and breach all kinds of national security protocols by making it public, but White House aides and Cabinet members still get to go hob nob in Davos.

    Follow-up:


    Just in from White House: “President Trump has canceled his Delegation’s trip to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.”

    Josh Dawsey is a reporter for the Washington Post.

    It finally dawned on them how this actually looked. It took what - 3 hours?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    And yet his wife already left, so what little "See we are doing it too" is a god damn lie.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    rahkeesh2000rahkeesh2000 Registered User regular
    The pelosi slapdown won him the next headline and immediately lost the following one, and will continue biting him and the GoP for the rest of the shutdown.

    He’s very good at doing the thing that is best for the next half-hour only.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    And yet his wife already left, so what little "See we are doing it too" is a god damn lie.

    Thought I saw she was going to Florida for donor stuff.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    And yet his wife already left, so what little "See we are doing it too" is a god damn lie.

    Thought I saw she was going to Florida for donor stuff.

    Yeah, she's heading to Mar-A-Lago. Which is yet another unforced error.

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    AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    edited January 2019
    I wonder how Mitch and the other senate Republicans are going to feel now they cant hide in Switzerland? Now there won't be any convenient excuses not to be doing their jobs.

    Edit: It wasn't actually them it turns out but a bunch of White House officials. None the less, nobody is escaping Washington now.

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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    I don't think the Senate Majority leader usually goes to Davos?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    And yet his wife already left, so what little "See we are doing it too" is a god damn lie.

    Thought I saw she was going to Florida for donor stuff.

    Which is worse, even if she was going home it would be hypocritical, but that she's going to do work on behalf of this admin is garbage.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    I don't think the Senate Majority leader usually goes to Davos?

    The Davos trip was for Cabinet/other executive members. GoP ?Senate? members were scheduled to go on an entirely separate retreat this weekend as well. Not sure if the general GoP retreat has been canceled yet.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I wonder how Mitch and the other senate Republicans are going to feel now they cant hide in Switzerland? Now there won't be any convenient excuses not to be doing their jobs.

    Wasn't Mitch at some completely unnecessary anti-abortion rally or something? To stop "taxpayer funded abortions", or something? Which isn't how Planned Parenthood is funded anyways, so it's all theater for the evangelist theofascists.

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    Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    I wonder how Trump’s underlings feel that Trump’s poorly thought out spitefulness has cost them a 10% raise and a free trip to Davos this month alone.

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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    edited January 2019
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I wonder how Mitch and the other senate Republicans are going to feel now they cant hide in Switzerland? Now there won't be any convenient excuses not to be doing their jobs.

    Wasn't Mitch at some completely unnecessary anti-abortion rally or something? To stop "taxpayer funded abortions", or something? Which isn't how Planned Parenthood is funded anyways, so it's all theater for the evangelist theofascists.

    IIRC the taxpayer funded abortions is something to do with providing aid to foreign countries?

    Nvm: It looks like its all just the usual fucking our own women over.

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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    KetBra wrote: »
    I don't think the Senate Majority leader usually goes to Davos?

    The list I saw was Mnuchin, Pompeo, Ross, Lighthizer, and some upper-junior policy dude. I assume the latter was the guy who was actually going to be stuck in the hotel working.

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    AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    Brody wrote: »
    KetBra wrote: »
    I don't think the Senate Majority leader usually goes to Davos?

    The Davos trip was for Cabinet/other executive members. GoP ?Senate? members were scheduled to go on an entirely separate retreat this weekend as well. Not sure if the general GoP retreat has been canceled yet.

    Yeah that's the one I was thinking of.

    I'm trying to find if that's been canceled or not. It does all feel hilariously last minute though, as it seems they didn't realize the optics of canceling the trip while keeping that one. It seems they canceled it very last minute when they realized how bad the optics was.

    At the very least, Trumps base is beginning to crack now and hopefully that continues.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Aegeri wrote: »
    I wonder how Mitch and the other senate Republicans are going to feel now they cant hide in Switzerland? Now there won't be any convenient excuses not to be doing their jobs.

    Wasn't Mitch at some completely unnecessary anti-abortion rally or something? To stop "taxpayer funded abortions", or something? Which isn't how Planned Parenthood is funded anyways, so it's all theater for the evangelist theofascists.

    If by rally you mean in the Senate trying to pass a pointless bill Pelosi would laugh at, then yes.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Trump's advisers trying to calm him down is just going to make everything worse.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-house-officials-discuss-whether-mcconnell-can-invite-trump-for-state-of-the-union-address/
    Senior officials are advising him that Pelosi's suggestion is a sign of weakness -- that Democrats fear he will use the stage to his advantage. It's not known whether that is actually the case, but it is what senior officials are telling him.

    The White House is operating on the assumption that Democrats will break and the GOP will remain unified, and the White House has shown no sign of shifting away from its funding-with-reopening demand.

    It is just sad.

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    wazillawazilla Having a late dinner Registered User regular
    It is only constitutionally mandated he send a letter. If he had shredded less than all the norms then maybe democrats would feel pressure to not do this but whoops

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    Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Alexandria, VARegistered User regular
    wazilla wrote: »
    It is only constitutionally mandated he send a letter. If he had shredded less than all the norms then maybe democrats would feel pressure to not do this but whoops

    Not quite. "[The president] shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient." The method is unspecified. The president must address Congress, but may do so in any manner.

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I would imagine that, technically, he could send a tweet.

    "The state of the union is Sad! I recommend Cryin Chuck and Nancy fund a great and beautiful wall!! (made of steel slats)"

    Oh please let him do this.

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I would imagine that, technically, he could send a tweet.

    "The state of the union is Sad! I recommend Cryin Chuck and Nancy fund a great and beautiful wall!! (made of steel slats)"

    Oh please let him do this.

    I can see it now.

    “My fellow americans, the state of the union is.....(1/47)”

    I wouldn't be surprised if he did this; it would be him thoroughly retreating to his base, where he can claim to have the most retweeted sotu.

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    Houk the NamebringerHouk the Namebringer Nipples The EchidnaRegistered User regular
    It's hard to fathom the amount of self-delusion, or just plain willingness to lie about anything, it would take to stand up in front of the nation and declare that the state of the union is strong in the midst of the longest government shutdown in history. Just the fucking I-don't-give-a-fuck-about-anything stones of it...

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    ElJeffeElJeffe Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I honestly don't think he'll say it's strong, if it winds up happening. I think the state of the union will be Very Bad because of Democrats who love open borders and crime.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I honestly don't think he'll say it's strong, if it winds up happening. I think the state of the union will be Very Bad because of Democrats who love open borders and crime.

    Fascists love to praise their own strength while stoking fears about weakness.

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    ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited January 2019
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I honestly don't think he'll say it's strong, if it winds up happening. I think the state of the union will be Very Bad because of Democrats who love open borders and crime.

    Fascists love to praise their own strength while stoking fears about weakness.

    Embracing this hypocrisy allows his base to both condemn democrats for stopping him, whilst ignoring that he did nothing with all the power of 3 branches for 2 years. With all that strength (and his awesome dealmaking powers) he did shit all, and with all their supposed weakness the democrats are somehow stopping him now

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    GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    It's hard to fathom the amount of self-delusion, or just plain willingness to lie about anything, it would take to stand up in front of the nation and declare that the state of the union is strong in the midst of the longest government shutdown in history. Just the fucking I-don't-give-a-fuck-about-anything stones of it...

    And beyond that, the reason for the shutdown/tantrum is that a 72 year year old man child didn't get funding for a project he demanded at the last possible minute due in no small part to how he couldn't explain how the funds would be spent.

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    I think we'd just get another version of the American Carnage speech only this time it would be closer to being true.

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    SmurphSmurph Registered User regular
    Trump is just going to schedule a Trump Rally somewhere and call it the State of the Union. Honestly his supporters would probably love that.

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    EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Smurph wrote: »
    Trump is just going to schedule a Trump Rally somewhere and call it the State of the Union. Honestly his supporters would probably love that.

    Probably need to remane it state of dixie to really lock it in.

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    cursedkingcursedking Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Trump's advisers trying to calm him down is just going to make everything worse.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-house-officials-discuss-whether-mcconnell-can-invite-trump-for-state-of-the-union-address/
    Senior officials are advising him that Pelosi's suggestion is a sign of weakness -- that Democrats fear he will use the stage to his advantage. It's not known whether that is actually the case, but it is what senior officials are telling him.

    The White House is operating on the assumption that Democrats will break and the GOP will remain unified, and the White House has shown no sign of shifting away from its funding-with-reopening demand.

    It is just sad.

    I think it is absolutely hilarious that their internal position is "ah of course, of course, they fear Donald Trump taking the stage!"

    that's the most fucking "oh please don't throw me into the briar patch" I have ever seen.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    I would imagine that, technically, he could send a tweet.

    "The state of the union is Sad! I recommend Cryin Chuck and Nancy fund a great and beautiful wall!! (made of steel slats)"

    Oh please let him do this.

    I can see it now.

    “My fellow americans, the state of the union is.....(1/47)”

    I wouldn't be surprised if he did this; it would be him thoroughly retreating to his base, where he can claim to have the most retweeted sotu.

    This implies Trump knows how to properly thread his tweets

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