They shouldn't have killed Tony. Let him have his happily ever after with the new family. Him retiring, Thor fucking off to space and Steve going back to the past would have been a nice end for the original 3. We already had the grand sacrifice with black widow.
I am just a sucker for happy endings though.
But all in all, an amazing end to the infinity saga. I honestly hope they don't make another avenger's movie. They pulled of something amazing with the material. They should leave it at that.
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I realized I had a massive sense of relief after seeing this movie. I'd been stressed out that they wouldn't land the bird. Like a weight has been lifted.
Steve was totally holding back during the AoU Mjolnir scene, huh?
I can't think of any possible reason he wouldn't have been worthy then but is worthy in Endgame, and Thor yelling I KNEW IT implies he knew Steve was faking it.
Either Steve was not yet worthy, or Steve, being a true patriot, didn't want to be a stupid royal king. Kings are bad. The USA doesn't have kings.
They really cast the most adorable little girl as Tony's daughter, that hurt
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I am bummed that the time jump means we won't get more of that adorable girl who played Scott's daughter in the last two Ant-Man movies. I mean now we get a teenage version who can get into cool mischief with her dad, but still.
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Right now I am entertaining myself thinking about how the separate universe spawned by Loki fleeing via the Space Stone works.
-- Loki isn't imprisoned on Asgard when it is attacked by the Dark Elves, which means he isn't there to offer the villains the suggestion of going the way that leads to his mother being killed. So Frigga is potentially still alive in that universe.
-- Loki isn't involved in any of Thor 2's plot, so Odin is still ruling Asgard.
-- Hella is still imprisoned.
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Steve was totally holding back during the AoU Mjolnir scene, huh?
I can't think of any possible reason he wouldn't have been worthy then but is worthy in Endgame, and Thor yelling I KNEW IT implies he knew Steve was faking it.
Either Steve was not yet worthy, or Steve, being a true patriot, didn't want to be a stupid royal king. Kings are bad. The USA doesn't have kings.
They really cast the most adorable little girl as Tony's daughter, that hurt
She single handedly made me think they would reverse things and cause Tony no end of pain. She is up there with Cassie.
Seeing her after Tony died was almost the second time I teared up, but I fought it superhard. The scenes between them earlier in the film were also plucking my heartstrings really hard.
I've grown soft, folks, it's finally happened.
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Watch them have a scene in the next Ant-Man where it flashes back to Cassie at the snap and we see her mom and step-dad dust and she has to be on her own for five years and all the shit she had to deal with.
But all in all, an amazing end to the infinity saga. I honestly hope they don't make another avenger's movie. They pulled of something amazing with the material. They should leave it at that.
A New Avengers would be pretty much an entirely new cast of heroes compared to the original Avengers
Captain Marvel, Captain Falcon, Black Panther, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Ant-Man, Wasp
I'm excited to see what their team dynamic is like
I realized I had a massive sense of relief after seeing this movie. I'd been stressed out that they wouldn't land the bird. Like a weight has been lifted.
I realized I had a massive sense of relief after seeing this movie. I'd been stressed out that they wouldn't land the bird. Like a weight has been lifted.
You mean land the fish
No, it’s land the bird. Just like landing a plan. You gotta land the plane to be in business.
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I know it’s silly to get hung up on these kinds of things. But how am I going to land a fish? It can’t walk! And if it swam up on shore, and it battled a hawk, who’s gonna win?
These were the moments from the original 2 Ultimates TPBs that I was referring to that I thought they nailed. Pure comic book.
Also someone mentioned the strange color palette during the final battle? I think this is why.
I assumed the color palette was because they were fighting in a war zone / Thanos had just bombed the shit out of the whole area.
Which is true, but that whole final sequence in Ultimates 2 where Thor calls in the Asgardians is done with a very heavy red sky/brown brown earth color scheme as well.
I can't confirm that of course, but it felt like the climaxes of both of those Ultimates' arcs.
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low key one of my favorite things about the (very white) audience I was watching it with was when the portals opened and someone was like
Thought it was fun. They super didn't earn their "girl power" scene and I think the Black Widow stuff was bad but I think all of that was talked about to death.
Cap getting the hammer was great. Cap living was also great, because popular opinion was definitely that he was going to die this time.
I liked that they (I assume intentionally) dropped all pretense of Thanos being some noble warrior trying to save the Galaxy and the second things weren't going his way he just turned into a pissy purple baby.
I also liked that when he got snapped he just sat down and pouted until he disintegrated.
Black Panther got the audience going when he showed. Spider-Man took them to their feet.
Me? I started crying when Tony hugged Peter and then was kinda start and stop until after Tony's final credit.
Great movie, great culmination of everything. I've been falling off ever since Ant-Man; I love bits from the movies and there are some I for sure like more than others, but it's been that warm blanket, a movie I know we'll get a babysitter for so it'll be nice to see something together. And this, I guess, was the warmest of blankets and maybe that means that's it's less a movie and just a feeling but it was great to see that they actually fucking pulled it together.
And now, I'm actually excited for an upcoming Marvel movie instead of just showing up that weekend. Let's go, Asgardians of the Galaxy!
I liked that they (I assume intentionally) dropped all pretense of Thanos being some noble warrior trying to save the Galaxy and the second things weren't going his way he just turned into a pissy purple baby.
I also liked that when he got snapped he just sat down and pouted until he disintegrated.
I think this movie did a good amount of work to completely deflate any semblance of "Thanos was right" that could be walked away with from the last movie
There was no thriving, everything just stagnated under the weight of crippling depression and survivor's guilt
There's no forgiveness for him from his daughters, no concept of him actually loving them, just manipulating and using them to his own selfish purposes, as well as the acknowledgement that they ARE selfish purposes
Can you imagine if you were like 7-years-old when the first Iron Man movie came out and you saw it? You'd be 18 now and have literally grown up with the MCU.
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@spool32 over in D&D helping us all out with an attempt at a visual representation of this film.
Im firmly in the camp of not giving a shit about the rules of time travel and just enjoying the story they told.
This is one of the good things about seeing the movie with my family and not the same sort of pedantic engineers I saw Looper with back in the day
Days of endless discussions on how the time travel process made no sense despite Bruce Willis all but turning to the audience and saying SHUT UP ABOUT TIME TRAVEL
I like time travel. I've even made time travel threads here. Time travel is fiction though, so as long as you don't break any rules you establish (stated or implied) in that particular fiction then it doesn't matter.
Endgame made sense to me with it's established rules. So did Looper, by the way.
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Logan is the only one of that list I would call good personally.
X1 and X2 came out when the comicbook movie landscape was pretty sparse and I don't know how well they'd hold up today. And I think First Class and DoFP were aggressively okay(but I'll concede they both did well at the Box Office).
Having recently rewatched the first X-Men movie, it still holds up fairly well.
But beyond that, it is still a very relevant movie in the themes it discusses:
Magneto: Magnificent, isn't she? Rogue: I've seen it. Magneto: I first saw her in 1949. America was going to be the land of tolerance. Peace. Rogue: Are you going to kill me? Magneto: Yes. Rogue: Why? Magneto: Because there is no land of tolerance. There is no peace. Not here, or anywhere else.
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Oh yeah, that reminds me.
I thought when Cap and Stark were going for another trip after they lose the tesseract and they make a big deal about not having enough Pym Particles, with Ant Man right there, I thought they were going to go, Hey, Scott, what's Hank's address? Fly to San Fransisco, ask for some, and then use those.
I mean the way they did it is far more exciting I guess and you get to de age Micheal Douglas even more, so why wouldn't you, but it seemed an awful lot simpler to me.
I hated hated HATED Gamora's treatment in Infinity War
but
We have now received a replacement Gamora who is not in a pre-established relationship with Quill and in fact seems to despise him, and has a strong rapport with Nebula, my new favorite supporting character.
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It's on there in really tiny writing
I am just a sucker for happy endings though.
But all in all, an amazing end to the infinity saga. I honestly hope they don't make another avenger's movie. They pulled of something amazing with the material. They should leave it at that.
God we hate kings.
-- Loki isn't imprisoned on Asgard when it is attacked by the Dark Elves, which means he isn't there to offer the villains the suggestion of going the way that leads to his mother being killed. So Frigga is potentially still alive in that universe.
-- Loki isn't involved in any of Thor 2's plot, so Odin is still ruling Asgard.
-- Hella is still imprisoned.
She single handedly made me think they would reverse things and cause Tony no end of pain. She is up there with Cassie.
But it does have DAT ASS.
Seeing her after Tony died was almost the second time I teared up, but I fought it superhard. The scenes between them earlier in the film were also plucking my heartstrings really hard.
I've grown soft, folks, it's finally happened.
That would wreck me.
A New Avengers would be pretty much an entirely new cast of heroes compared to the original Avengers
Captain Marvel, Captain Falcon, Black Panther, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange, Ant-Man, Wasp
I'm excited to see what their team dynamic is like
You mean land the fish
No, it’s land the bird. Just like landing a plan. You gotta land the plane to be in business.
Which is true, but that whole final sequence in Ultimates 2 where Thor calls in the Asgardians is done with a very heavy red sky/brown brown earth color scheme as well.
I can't confirm that of course, but it felt like the climaxes of both of those Ultimates' arcs.
OH MY GOD ITS T'CHALLA!
and everyone cheered.
They only ever showed him doing it to the Outriders even, not Chitauri footsoldiers
Thought it was fun. They super didn't earn their "girl power" scene and I think the Black Widow stuff was bad but I think all of that was talked about to death.
Cap getting the hammer was great. Cap living was also great, because popular opinion was definitely that he was going to die this time.
The Skrull leader in Captain Marvel is fucking awesome.
I have heard!
I'll check it out once Disney+ is up and running.
Cassie: "Oh snap we gotta bounce before the po-po get here!"
Paul Rudd, barely not losing his shit: "where did you even hear that???"
I also liked that when he got snapped he just sat down and pouted until he disintegrated.
Me? I started crying when Tony hugged Peter and then was kinda start and stop until after Tony's final credit.
Great movie, great culmination of everything. I've been falling off ever since Ant-Man; I love bits from the movies and there are some I for sure like more than others, but it's been that warm blanket, a movie I know we'll get a babysitter for so it'll be nice to see something together. And this, I guess, was the warmest of blankets and maybe that means that's it's less a movie and just a feeling but it was great to see that they actually fucking pulled it together.
And now, I'm actually excited for an upcoming Marvel movie instead of just showing up that weekend. Let's go, Asgardians of the Galaxy!
I think this movie did a good amount of work to completely deflate any semblance of "Thanos was right" that could be walked away with from the last movie
There was no thriving, everything just stagnated under the weight of crippling depression and survivor's guilt
There's no forgiveness for him from his daughters, no concept of him actually loving them, just manipulating and using them to his own selfish purposes, as well as the acknowledgement that they ARE selfish purposes
This is one of the good things about seeing the movie with my family and not the same sort of pedantic engineers I saw Looper with back in the day
Days of endless discussions on how the time travel process made no sense despite Bruce Willis all but turning to the audience and saying SHUT UP ABOUT TIME TRAVEL
SHUT UP
IT'S A MOVIE
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As mentioned, the real casualty is no more little kid Cassie, the most adorablest kid ever
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It's partially this and partially less Quality Child Parenting from Scott Lang
Now he's gonna have to do Quality Teen Parenting and that's less fun
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Endgame made sense to me with it's established rules. So did Looper, by the way.
Paul Rudd really sells the idea of Scott Lang, more than maybe any other character in the MCU, of being a representative of the common man.
So when he sees this larger than life figure being scared and/or selfish he just calls them out on it.
Having recently rewatched the first X-Men movie, it still holds up fairly well.
But beyond that, it is still a very relevant movie in the themes it discusses:
I thought when Cap and Stark were going for another trip after they lose the tesseract and they make a big deal about not having enough Pym Particles, with Ant Man right there, I thought they were going to go, Hey, Scott, what's Hank's address? Fly to San Fransisco, ask for some, and then use those.
I mean the way they did it is far more exciting I guess and you get to de age Micheal Douglas even more, so why wouldn't you, but it seemed an awful lot simpler to me.
Satans..... hints.....
but
We have now received a replacement Gamora who is not in a pre-established relationship with Quill and in fact seems to despise him, and has a strong rapport with Nebula, my new favorite supporting character.
.......I'll allow it
Chris Evans was saying this movie is intended as the sendoff for him, RDJ, AND Hemsworth
it really felt like Thor was set up that he could be in Guardians 3, but maybe not, maybe he's just done