Hey what's the honorific that Kanamori always uses when she refers to Asakusa in Eizoken? It's one that I can't place. I'm pretty sure it's not "director" because I feel like in most Japanese stuff they just use the direct loanword or at least some close transliteration of it.
Hey what's the honorific that Kanamori always uses when she refers to Asakusa in Eizoken? It's one that I can't place. I'm pretty sure it's not "director" because I feel like in most Japanese stuff they just use the direct loanword or at least some close transliteration of it.
'-shi(氏)' which is typically either something only used in formal print stuff/news media or super stereotypical otaku type characters, iirc
Eizouken is so good! It's so charming. The different styles, the way it makes it clear how simultaneously wonderful and awful it is to animate a thing agh it's so cute! I like it. I love how Kanamori walks, too. Just like shoulders forward like a terrible giant.
I've been reading Kaiji, and I was super into it for the first game, then the second one sort of lost me a bit with the whole "if only we could, like, _communicate_ with one another" business, and now it's just been "if I think he thinks what I think he's thinking I'm thinking" for a long time and I dunno how much I can keep track of it all any more.
Plus I know there's a bunch more episodes coming up after the first series, so I know he'll survive, which takes some of the tension out of it.
_and_ because I have too little willpower, I spoiled myself and looked up what the games are going to be in the next story arcs, and I really don't think I can manage an entire story arc or two which are nothing but Kaiji and one other guy and more "if I think he thinks what I'm thinking he thinks" sort of thing, honestly. And it sounds like everyone is just super duper mean and it's all a bit of a downer, honestly.
The E-Card game is pretty great though.
Okay, I got to the end of the first arc(s), and yeah, I liked what he did with the emperor game to add extra layers to it, that was what I liked about the rock-paper-scissors one, too.
And then after that game was done
I guess I shouldn't really have expected this to be all goodness and light, it's not Laid-Back Camp after all, but sheesh, I also wasn't expecting quite that sort of explicit gruesomeness either -- we don't see much, sure, but still, ugggghhh.
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"there are many ways to be gay" by Mieri Hiranishi
@Kana since gender studies across cultures are a big deal for you, I'm really curious about the adoption of gender stereotypes within queer communities in geographically separated cultures that have big differences in cultural/legal/social history. For instance, this manga discusses the butch/femme stereotype and relationship preferences within the context of the Japanese LGBT community of the mangaka's experience, and that's a shared experience for people in the Western world. However, one forum poster points out that in the USA, there was a practical reason for these stereotypes decades ago as a result of the social environment during that time, which I don't imagine was identical in Japan. Some of the forum posters read it as "why do queer communities adopt heteronormative stereotypes?", which is also something I wondered about because I am not informed about the cultural history that surrounded these groups. What does drive the prevalence of these seemingly heteronormative roles in LGBT communities in the things you've studied? Is it just because of the social permeation of those roles (after all, the people were raised and grew up around them)?
@l_g There's kind of a few aspects to this, none of which are like a perfectly clean answer or anything but are worth exploring.
The first is that Japan began a process of (mostly self-driven) westernization starting back in the Meiji Restoration. Among other things this involved adopting a lot from western law codes, including laws against homosexuality. Folks often read this as Japan previously being accepting of homosexuality, but that's kind of an oversimplification. Traditional East Asian legal systems of the time tended to only get involved in serious disputes, and to be brutal enough to discourage anyone but the really pissed off from going to the authorities in the first place. Offenses against local values were usually left to local leaders and family heads to sort out. Certain kinds of same-sex relationships were tolerated for sure, but it was always with the caveat that they didn't challenge gender roles. So like Buddhist monks being lecherous towards boys was a negative stereotype, but one that was usually treated more with amusement than any kind of moral horror. But those monks didn't marry and weren't part of the Confusian family tree. So homosexuality had only a limited and specific role in polite society, and that role was further cut back by the Japanese state adopting western-style legislated morality. The irony is that only a few decades later there'd be an early movement towards queer acceptance and against criminalization in the same countries that Japan had borrowed their laws from. So like later Japanese writers will view the west as much more accepting of people like them than their own conservative home.
Skip ahead to after the war and the American occupation takes an active role in once again rewriting Japanese laws and legislating moral codes. This includes stuff like education and publication standards for children's entertainment, which is something I've talked about before in a different post I think. So like when we're talking about the differences between eastern and western societies, don't forget that Japan had decades of western influence on their attitudes about homosexuality and gender roles, the postwar differences are less stark than you'd think.
On the "things were different" side of the argument, like the classic yuri scenario is pretty different from most western stereotypes at the time. The western stereotype of lesbianism was usually about being man-like, that they had been given male desires and weren't properly like, slotting into their female gender role. And of course at the time ideas about sex, sexuality, gender roles, all of that was only understood strictly in the sense of gender. Whether or not a woman enjoyed sex with her husband, or was in love with him, was beside the point. And same with the husband too of course. So yuri's kind of interesting, as a genre it's directly informed by western writers but it's all about like hyper-feminized same sex attraction. Traditionally they were also usually set in boarding schools, a sort of temporary reprieve from the Confucian Three Obediences. So like having the romance was fine, but only in a temporary setting which didn't actually challenge society's larger gender roles and expectations. Modern Japan is obviously now much more open to differences in gender expression and women not getting married (relatively speaking anyway...) but it's all pretty recent. There's a similar dynamic with the perception of gay men as well. The Japanese stereotype of male homosexuality mostly came from Yukio Mishima, the gay ultranationalist samurai/writer/model, or from campy cross-dressing entertainers, neither of which really look like what we consider the normal stereotypical image of gay men in the west.
Anyway that's all pretty disorganized and overly brief but also it'd be like 5 pages if I went into it with any kind of thoroughness. TL;DR: yeah there's cultural differences but also a whole lot more similarities and influences than people tend to assume, and while Japan didn't really have religious objections to homosexuality they did if it interfered with gender rules.
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I'm reading Watamote chapter 171 and good lord they are really putting a lampshade on the Kuroki Is Gay subtext now aren't they
I feel surprised practically every chapter at how things have gone from subtext to text, except technically there's still no one openly saying anything.
Like it wasn't that long ago that Tomoko's gayness was still very much up for debate among the fandom
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I kinda found hard to believe that a guild that has "free giant flying turtle rides" as a benefit has difficulty getting members. Chat at the end (and didn't noticed until now that red shield guy was on it) addressed it, but man, is still weird.
...Almost as weird as all those posts looking for DPS players. Almost.
Besides that, another very fun episode, that tree house is cute. Also, "Maple Tree" is a great guild name.
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I don't think it's the robot after all. And after reading the side story I'm 100% positive the robot is going to become an ally to Senku when the battlefield moves to space, which is the ultimate end goal I'm seeing for the story.
But, there's something bugging me about the Medusa. Activating it is done with human language, metric measurements. This thing was built either by a human or someone who's lived among them long enough to naturalize.
I kinda found hard to believe that a guild that has "free giant flying turtle rides" as a benefit has difficulty getting members. Chat at the end (and didn't noticed until now that red shield guy was on it) addressed it, but man, is still weird.
...Almost as weird as all those posts looking for DPS players. Almost.
Besides that, another very fun episode, that tree house is cute. Also, "Maple Tree" is a great guild name.
Eh the bosses are all tanky shit. DPS is probabaly really in demand
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So I just watched the new Dragon Quest movie on Netflix
It's pretty good! Though I'm not sure how much someone who hasn't played Dragon Quest V would enjoy it. I was also disappointed they dropped some of the subplots from the game and it takes a sligtly hinted at but VERY WEIRD swerve at the end.
Having it take place inside a vr simulation with the final enemy being a virus subtly put into Nimzo's code is a... Choice. It really makes it feel like they shoehorned in the theme
to be about nostalgia.
Still I like the storytelling device of the player wanting to pick Nera to marry this playthrough but ultimately couldn't because he loves Bianca too much. Because honestly big same.
So I just watched the new Dragon Quest movie on Netflix
It's pretty good! Though I'm not sure how much someone who hasn't played Dragon Quest V would enjoy it. I was also disappointed they dropped some of the subplots from the game and it takes a sligtly hinted at but VERY WEIRD swerve at the end.
Having it take place inside a vr simulation with the final enemy being a virus subtly put into Nimzo's code is a... Choice. It really makes it feel like they shoehorned in the theme
to be about nostalgia.
Still I like the storytelling device of the player wanting to pick Nera to marry this playthrough but ultimately couldn't because he loves Bianca too much. Because honestly big same.
so 8/10 Bianca's the best fight me.
Yeah that swerve at the end is EXTREMELY out there and weird. I wasn’t a huge fan of it, I would have liked the movie to just be a straight up adaptation. Still, I enjoyed it overall!
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chainsawman is increasingly feeling like a series of shaggy dog stories that end with anywhere from 1-10 minor characters you thought might be important dying ignominiously and honestly, i'm here for it
like i knew how the sequence with Kobeni's Brand New Car was going to go from second one, but i still couldn't really believe it until it happened
chainsawman is increasingly feeling like a series of shaggy dog stories that end with anywhere from 1-10 minor characters you thought might be important dying ignominiously and honestly, i'm here for it
like i knew how the sequence with Kobeni's Brand New Car was going to go from second one, but i still couldn't really believe it until it happened
Its surprisingly blunt about what it is and its awesome
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Y'know it's a small thing, but I really love how in Eizouken the girl who's all about adventure and excitement and exploring also happens to be the one who's really shy and afraid of talking to people.
It's just a nice little bit of subtlety to her character that makes her feel much more real
This show is just so lovely
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
chainsawman is increasingly feeling like a series of shaggy dog stories that end with anywhere from 1-10 minor characters you thought might be important dying ignominiously and honestly, i'm here for it
like i knew how the sequence with Kobeni's Brand New Car was going to go from second one, but i still couldn't really believe it until it happened
Its surprisingly blunt about what it is and its awesome
It's one of the only stories where I dislike the characters but still kinda enjoy reading it.
I'm reading Watamote chapter 171 and good lord they are really putting a lampshade on the Kuroki Is Gay subtext now aren't they
Lampshade?
A term for when a work points out a trope that is happening.
Like when someone goes “hey, why are we just sitting around while the hero goes through her transformation animation?”
Usually it's a form of satire or pointing out the trope.
It's like, if there is a big goon in the room and a looney toon isn't paying attention and hangs a lamp-shade on the goon and goes about his buisness.
in this case it's
a classmate commenting that Kuroki's reaction to being caught trying to look up the classmate's skirt is hilarious, she's embarassed "just like how a boy would react!" The only way to make that more obvious is to have Kuroki herself realize it, rather than brush it off as a joke from someone else.
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The cat lives!
Kinda?
This whole arc/fight has been an emotional roller coaster!
Y'know it's a small thing, but I really love how in Eizouken the girl who's all about adventure and excitement and exploring also happens to be the one who's really shy and afraid of talking to people.
It's just a nice little bit of subtlety to her character that makes her feel much more real
This show is just so lovely
I like that her arc is overcoming that because she ultimately needs to be a director and you need to make tough calls. That scene with the art club guy was painful to watch
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I think someone mentioned it a couple of pages back but I have been watching Inspectre and I really dig the mysterious vibe they have going on, it feels kinda unique? Also it's hard not to watch the next episode because of the way they end it with a question or hook. Really strange pacing too.
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this is basically true of all mahjong anime to be fair
either cheating or literal magic and superpowers
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Okay, I got to the end of the first arc(s), and yeah, I liked what he did with the emperor game to add extra layers to it, that was what I liked about the rock-paper-scissors one, too.
And then after that game was done
Mahjong is basically Unnecessarily Overcomplicated Poker. It's one of those old games that make you sad if you're into game design.
@l_g There's kind of a few aspects to this, none of which are like a perfectly clean answer or anything but are worth exploring.
The first is that Japan began a process of (mostly self-driven) westernization starting back in the Meiji Restoration. Among other things this involved adopting a lot from western law codes, including laws against homosexuality. Folks often read this as Japan previously being accepting of homosexuality, but that's kind of an oversimplification. Traditional East Asian legal systems of the time tended to only get involved in serious disputes, and to be brutal enough to discourage anyone but the really pissed off from going to the authorities in the first place. Offenses against local values were usually left to local leaders and family heads to sort out. Certain kinds of same-sex relationships were tolerated for sure, but it was always with the caveat that they didn't challenge gender roles. So like Buddhist monks being lecherous towards boys was a negative stereotype, but one that was usually treated more with amusement than any kind of moral horror. But those monks didn't marry and weren't part of the Confusian family tree. So homosexuality had only a limited and specific role in polite society, and that role was further cut back by the Japanese state adopting western-style legislated morality. The irony is that only a few decades later there'd be an early movement towards queer acceptance and against criminalization in the same countries that Japan had borrowed their laws from. So like later Japanese writers will view the west as much more accepting of people like them than their own conservative home.
Skip ahead to after the war and the American occupation takes an active role in once again rewriting Japanese laws and legislating moral codes. This includes stuff like education and publication standards for children's entertainment, which is something I've talked about before in a different post I think. So like when we're talking about the differences between eastern and western societies, don't forget that Japan had decades of western influence on their attitudes about homosexuality and gender roles, the postwar differences are less stark than you'd think.
On the "things were different" side of the argument, like the classic yuri scenario is pretty different from most western stereotypes at the time. The western stereotype of lesbianism was usually about being man-like, that they had been given male desires and weren't properly like, slotting into their female gender role. And of course at the time ideas about sex, sexuality, gender roles, all of that was only understood strictly in the sense of gender. Whether or not a woman enjoyed sex with her husband, or was in love with him, was beside the point. And same with the husband too of course. So yuri's kind of interesting, as a genre it's directly informed by western writers but it's all about like hyper-feminized same sex attraction. Traditionally they were also usually set in boarding schools, a sort of temporary reprieve from the Confucian Three Obediences. So like having the romance was fine, but only in a temporary setting which didn't actually challenge society's larger gender roles and expectations. Modern Japan is obviously now much more open to differences in gender expression and women not getting married (relatively speaking anyway...) but it's all pretty recent. There's a similar dynamic with the perception of gay men as well. The Japanese stereotype of male homosexuality mostly came from Yukio Mishima, the gay ultranationalist samurai/writer/model, or from campy cross-dressing entertainers, neither of which really look like what we consider the normal stereotypical image of gay men in the west.
Anyway that's all pretty disorganized and overly brief but also it'd be like 5 pages if I went into it with any kind of thoroughness. TL;DR: yeah there's cultural differences but also a whole lot more similarities and influences than people tend to assume, and while Japan didn't really have religious objections to homosexuality they did if it interfered with gender rules.
I thought the rule for mahjong was that it’s not cheating if you don’t get caught
I feel surprised practically every chapter at how things have gone from subtext to text, except technically there's still no one openly saying anything.
Like it wasn't that long ago that Tomoko's gayness was still very much up for debate among the fandom
I wish I could have gone in entirely blind for that show.
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Find a friend who doesn't know anything about it and watch it with them.
...Almost as weird as all those posts looking for DPS players. Almost.
Besides that, another very fun episode, that tree house is cute. Also, "Maple Tree" is a great guild name.
But, there's something bugging me about the Medusa. Activating it is done with human language, metric measurements. This thing was built either by a human or someone who's lived among them long enough to naturalize.
Edit: Oh, there's a whole other chapter to read!
Eh the bosses are all tanky shit. DPS is probabaly really in demand
Got eem
"...only mights and maybes."
It's pretty good! Though I'm not sure how much someone who hasn't played Dragon Quest V would enjoy it. I was also disappointed they dropped some of the subplots from the game and it takes a sligtly hinted at but VERY WEIRD swerve at the end.
to be about nostalgia.
Still I like the storytelling device of the player wanting to pick Nera to marry this playthrough but ultimately couldn't because he loves Bianca too much. Because honestly big same.
so 8/10 Bianca's the best fight me.
Lampshade?
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like i knew how the sequence with Kobeni's Brand New Car was going to go from second one, but i still couldn't really believe it until it happened
A term for when a work points out a trope that is happening.
Like when someone goes “hey, why are we just sitting around while the hero goes through her transformation animation?”
Its surprisingly blunt about what it is and its awesome
Usually it's a form of satire or pointing out the trope.
It's like, if there is a big goon in the room and a looney toon isn't paying attention and hangs a lamp-shade on the goon and goes about his buisness.
It's just a nice little bit of subtlety to her character that makes her feel much more real
This show is just so lovely
It's one of the only stories where I dislike the characters but still kinda enjoy reading it.
in this case it's
Kinda?
This whole arc/fight has been an emotional roller coaster!
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I like that her arc is overcoming that because she ultimately needs to be a director and you need to make tough calls. That scene with the art club guy was painful to watch
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