Via Rail says partial passenger train service will not resume this week — as was previously announced — while the company moves to temporarily lay off nearly 1,000 people.
Which sounds different from other layoffs they are doing, mentioned further down the article:
On Tuesday, CN Rail announced that it would lay off around 450 of its workers following hundreds of train cancellations and network suspensions. The national railway announced plans to lay off roughly 1,600 employees last year, citing international trade tensions and slowing economic growth.
It's definitely a mess, but it's something that needs to be sorted out.
Also, you're ALWAYS going to find detractors within a group, like doctors and nurses who don't believe in vaccination or a woman's right to choose. It should surprise nobody that there are people within that group who want the protesters to stop.
It's definitely a mess, but it's something that needs to be sorted out.
Also, you're ALWAYS going to find detractors within a group, like doctors and nurses who don't believe in vaccination or a woman's right to choose. It should surprise nobody that there are people within that group who want the protesters to stop.
Until the legal claim is resolved, this will keep happening. There are people protesting the pipeline because no pipelines. But at the core, what this is really about, is First Nation agency. That's what needs to be sorted out.
It's definitely a mess, but it's something that needs to be sorted out.
Also, you're ALWAYS going to find detractors within a group, like doctors and nurses who don't believe in vaccination or a woman's right to choose. It should surprise nobody that there are people within that group who want the protesters to stop.
Until the legal claim is resolved, this will keep happening. There are people protesting the pipeline because no pipelines. But at the core, what this is really about, is First Nation agency. That's what needs to be sorted out.
The problem is that there is no way to settle this without literally starting over. The treaty/reserve system is fucked to the core.
And there is no politician in Canada that will touch that with a 10' pole.
It's definitely a mess, but it's something that needs to be sorted out.
Also, you're ALWAYS going to find detractors within a group, like doctors and nurses who don't believe in vaccination or a woman's right to choose. It should surprise nobody that there are people within that group who want the protesters to stop.
Until the legal claim is resolved, this will keep happening. There are people protesting the pipeline because no pipelines. But at the core, what this is really about, is First Nation agency. That's what needs to be sorted out.
The problem is that there is no way to settle this without literally starting over. The treaty/reserve system is fucked to the core.
And there is no politician in Canada that will touch that with a 10' pole.
Not disagreeing in general, but going from here to there seems like a reach.
It's not like trans-national pipelines aren't a thing everywhere else in the world. Just because Russian and Germany really want a pipeline through Poland, they don't just invade it and okay bad example but still.
If you want a pipeline through a nation you have to negotiate with them, and they can tell you to fuck off. Then you have to make it longer and go around or what ever not that complicated.
It's definitely a mess, but it's something that needs to be sorted out.
Also, you're ALWAYS going to find detractors within a group, like doctors and nurses who don't believe in vaccination or a woman's right to choose. It should surprise nobody that there are people within that group who want the protesters to stop.
Until the legal claim is resolved, this will keep happening. There are people protesting the pipeline because no pipelines. But at the core, what this is really about, is First Nation agency. That's what needs to be sorted out.
The problem is that there is no way to settle this without literally starting over. The treaty/reserve system is fucked to the core.
And there is no politician in Canada that will touch that with a 10' pole.
Not disagreeing in general, but going from here to there seems like a reach.
It's not like trans-national pipelines aren't a thing everywhere else in the world. Just because Russian and Germany really want a pipeline through Poland, they don't just invade it and okay bad example but still.
If you want a pipeline through a nation you have to negotiate with them, and they can tell you to fuck off. Then you have to make it longer and go around or what ever not that complicated.
The problem is the members of the nations don’t necessarily agree who speaks with authority to agree or reject any deals negotiated.
So having to start from scratch on how Canada recognizes and interacts with First Nations, which is currently hamstrung by both existing legislation and treaties as well as years of bad faith on the part of the Federal and Provincial governments.
It's definitely a mess, but it's something that needs to be sorted out.
Also, you're ALWAYS going to find detractors within a group, like doctors and nurses who don't believe in vaccination or a woman's right to choose. It should surprise nobody that there are people within that group who want the protesters to stop.
Until the legal claim is resolved, this will keep happening. There are people protesting the pipeline because no pipelines. But at the core, what this is really about, is First Nation agency. That's what needs to be sorted out.
The problem is that there is no way to settle this without literally starting over. The treaty/reserve system is fucked to the core.
And there is no politician in Canada that will touch that with a 10' pole.
Not disagreeing in general, but going from here to there seems like a reach.
It's not like trans-national pipelines aren't a thing everywhere else in the world. Just because Russian and Germany really want a pipeline through Poland, they don't just invade it and okay bad example but still.
If you want a pipeline through a nation you have to negotiate with them, and they can tell you to fuck off. Then you have to make it longer and go around or what ever not that complicated.
See, this is where it get's complicated.
They are a nation inside another nation that has zero financial independence, are not self governing 100% of the time and in many cases very limited ways to generate revenue.
Germany does not pay for Poland's healthcare, roads & utilities.
I'm not condoning this just calling it out.
This is what makes every negation a huge deal because we are not dealing with the Native people as we would a foreign nation.
This has to change but can't because we are stuck in the same cycle. To make things fair Canada would need to cede much power/land/money.
It's definitely a mess, but it's something that needs to be sorted out.
Also, you're ALWAYS going to find detractors within a group, like doctors and nurses who don't believe in vaccination or a woman's right to choose. It should surprise nobody that there are people within that group who want the protesters to stop.
Until the legal claim is resolved, this will keep happening. There are people protesting the pipeline because no pipelines. But at the core, what this is really about, is First Nation agency. That's what needs to be sorted out.
The problem is that there is no way to settle this without literally starting over. The treaty/reserve system is fucked to the core.
And there is no politician in Canada that will touch that with a 10' pole.
Not disagreeing in general, but going from here to there seems like a reach.
It's not like trans-national pipelines aren't a thing everywhere else in the world. Just because Russian and Germany really want a pipeline through Poland, they don't just invade it and okay bad example but still.
If you want a pipeline through a nation you have to negotiate with them, and they can tell you to fuck off. Then you have to make it longer and go around or what ever not that complicated.
See, this is where it get's complicated.
They are a nation inside another nation that has zero financial independence, are not self governing 100% of the time and in many cases very limited ways to generate revenue.
Germany does not pay for Poland's healthcare, roads & utilities.
I'm not condoning this just calling it out.
I would also say that the general public, who in a democracy get to vote and all that, basically do not even understand the idea that they represent any sort of independent anything.
It's definitely a mess, but it's something that needs to be sorted out.
Also, you're ALWAYS going to find detractors within a group, like doctors and nurses who don't believe in vaccination or a woman's right to choose. It should surprise nobody that there are people within that group who want the protesters to stop.
Until the legal claim is resolved, this will keep happening. There are people protesting the pipeline because no pipelines. But at the core, what this is really about, is First Nation agency. That's what needs to be sorted out.
The problem is that there is no way to settle this without literally starting over. The treaty/reserve system is fucked to the core.
And there is no politician in Canada that will touch that with a 10' pole.
Not disagreeing in general, but going from here to there seems like a reach.
It's not like trans-national pipelines aren't a thing everywhere else in the world. Just because Russian and Germany really want a pipeline through Poland, they don't just invade it and okay bad example but still.
If you want a pipeline through a nation you have to negotiate with them, and they can tell you to fuck off. Then you have to make it longer and go around or what ever not that complicated.
See, this is where it get's complicated.
They are a nation inside another nation that has zero financial independence, are not self governing 100% of the time and in many cases very limited ways to generate revenue.
Germany does not pay for Poland's healthcare, roads & utilities.
I'm not condoning this just calling it out.
I would also say that the general public, who in a democracy get to vote and all that, basically do not even understand the idea that they represent any sort of independent anything.
This is very true as well.
Hell, bring up healing lodges to the average person and prepare for a rant.
On a somewhat less contentious topic, has anyone in Ontario seen one of those anti-carbon tax gas pump stickers lately? I know they had crappy adhesive and people just peeled them off or covered them up, but I think it's still technically the law that gas stations need to have them, and I haven't seen one anywhere in months.
At least the CBC article on this showed the video of the meeting.
Not exactly an article that does much to convince me that 200 people are all in agreement (a generous number for the attendees too, not ever seat was filled in that auditorium) or that they represent the opinions of the approximately 5000 people of the Wet’suwet’en. That’s not even ~4% of their population if everyone in that room was Wet’suwet’en, which they most assuredly were not which you can see in the video of the meeting.
Their position has been supported by their system of bahlat as well as a survey that was reported to me by Chief Knedebeas (Warner William), as well as Chief Howihkat (Freda Huson), who was on the council of Witset (the largest Wet’suwet’en community) while the survey was being completed. It was conducted by CopperMoon Communications, a company that doesn’t seem to exist anymore. The surveyed stated that 83 per cent of Witset members (its population is 2,000 among the greater Wet’suwet’en population of 5,000) were against the pipeline.
But conversations with those at the centre of the Vancouver events suggests a greater depth of knowledge of the dispute than critics suggest. “In the media coverage thus far, the major outlets have been calling what’s going on a ‘pipeline protest,’” says 25-year-old Kellan Jackson, one of the protesters. “While the action is specifically asking that the Coastal GasLink project not go through, the reason for that is because we are acting in accordance with the Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs.“It’s a movement for Indigenous sovereignty and for respect of Indigenous title. So we’re acting as allies and accomplices in land protection, we’re not protesting a pipeline.”
Doesn't seem right to just throw up our hands and say its too hard for politicians to get near, we have modern treaties already in play that both the BC NDP (Nisga'a) and BC Liberals (Maa-nulth) have received accolades for. Heck, just the other day we were looking at how the Cree Nation and Quebec just got to bragging about their development deal being signed.
I think a mistake commonly being made in these discussions is that it gets ignored that Truth & Reconciliation commitments aren't just promises to First Nations people, but to Canadian's writ large.
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It's pretty disingenuous and offensive to describe the people in that article as akin to fucking antivaxxers or anti-abortionists.
Legitimate political disagreements within communities is not science denial nor is it a fringe perspective.
Ah, sorry, that's not what I meant at all. I meant to suggest that the media never has to look far for a different opinion within any group, not that the supporters are anything akin to the groups I used as examples.
It's pretty disingenuous and offensive to describe the people in that article as akin to fucking antivaxxers or anti-abortionists.
Legitimate political disagreements within communities is not science denial nor is it a fringe perspective.
Ah, sorry, that's not what I meant at all. I was suggesting that the media never has to look far for a different opinion in any group, not that the supporters are anything akin to the groups I used as examples.
That's fair, I do agree the reporting / media seeks out "both sides" narratives but I'd maintain they didn't need to look far at all in this situation given there is significant support for the project.
On a somewhat less contentious topic, has anyone in Ontario seen one of those anti-carbon tax gas pump stickers lately? I know they had crappy adhesive and people just peeled them off or covered them up, but I think it's still technically the law that gas stations need to have them, and I haven't seen one anywhere in months.
I see where a lot used to be, they've either fallen apart or been torn off. I saw a fair number that faded right out.
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On a somewhat less contentious topic, has anyone in Ontario seen one of those anti-carbon tax gas pump stickers lately? I know they had crappy adhesive and people just peeled them off or covered them up, but I think it's still technically the law that gas stations need to have them, and I haven't seen one anywhere in months.
I see where a lot used to be, they've either fallen apart or been torn off. I saw a fair number that faded right out.
Ah, so they used the same manufacturer as the new licence plates.
On a somewhat less contentious topic, has anyone in Ontario seen one of those anti-carbon tax gas pump stickers lately? I know they had crappy adhesive and people just peeled them off or covered them up, but I think it's still technically the law that gas stations need to have them, and I haven't seen one anywhere in months.
I see them regularly in ottawa at multiple gas station. I still believe they have to have them in place.
My wife is a psychiatrist here in Alberta, they just got wind of a memo regarding changes to billing codes in AHS funded sites.
90% of the code my wife bills while she is at these sites is effected. They have new codes that they would have to use but there is no rates posted for these new codes and they may not have the rates determined when the changes go in effect beginning of April.. physicians can still bill those codes but any changes will be retroactively reclaimed once rates are determined.
Tyler Shandro went on the news and was all “oh doctors aren’t willing to negotiate” which is bullshit, UCP dropped it on the doctors lap and said we aren’t honoring the contracts and what we say goes. It then went to arbitration (or was it mediation.. ) which failed for the same reason despite the AMA offering up potential solutions.
UCP are both setting the narrative that oh doctors are greedy they are leaving AHS sites because of Money, and to point and say oh look public health isn’t sustainable we need private.
As it stands we can’t budget we have no idea of what rates are but she is expected to work without knowing how much she makes with the risk of any money she does make getting clawed back. We aren't sure what percentage of a decrease in those codes would be a deal breaker for us either.
On a somewhat less contentious topic, has anyone in Ontario seen one of those anti-carbon tax gas pump stickers lately? I know they had crappy adhesive and people just peeled them off or covered them up, but I think it's still technically the law that gas stations need to have them, and I haven't seen one anywhere in months.
I saw a somewhat similar posting at a local Coop gas station blaming the striking Unifor refinery workers for the gas shortages after it was management that clawed back benefits and refused to negotiate.
But then I saw all the anti union posts about it on Facebook and I had a sad.
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So the pension fund of the province that is very dependent on energy extraction companies is putting its investment funds into energy extraction companies. So when the inevitable downturn hits not only will jobs, salaries, and tax revenue take a hit, but pensions will be negatively impacted too.
This is not a good investment strategy.
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Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
That's a funny dig, sure. But I also think that any halfway decent pension fund manager will ditch oil and gas investments the hot second their fortunes start to tank.
That won't help industry jobs or salaries of workers or the income tax reaping of the province...but the fund managers will quickly act if a winner becomes a loser on the market.
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That's a funny dig, sure. But I also think that any halfway decent pension fund manager will ditch oil and gas investments the hot second their fortunes start to tank.
That won't help industry jobs or salaries of workers or the income tax reaping of the province...but the fund managers will quickly act if a winner becomes a loser on the market.
The relative performance of managed funds to things like index funds or ETFs would indicate otherwise.
Shut up, Mr. Burton! You were not brought upon this world to get it!
Speaking of Alberta, four Albertans MPs have apprently released their "Buffalo Declaration", in which they decry "Western alienation" caused by being sore losers after the last election. It proposed a set of solutions, which all boil down to giving Alberta more power, and includes recognizing Alberta as a distinct people within Canada, revamping our entire democracy to make it an Albertacracy, exempting Alberta from paying federal taxes, and giving "provinces" complete and exclusive control over energy projects (and by "provinces" I assume they mean Alberta, because I don't think they'd like it if BC and Québec had control over energy projects), and threathen Alberta separation if they don't get it. They of course take a sideline to bitch against Pierre Trudeau's NEP, because why the fuck not at this point. And my favourite bit, which was a hard call, is:
“At time of writing, activists with a colonial ideology are breaking laws in blockades of critical industry, for the sake of closing down Alberta industry.”
You heard it from Alberta: the real colonial oppressor in Canada are the First Nations! :rotate:
Speaking of Alberta, four Albertans MPs have apprently released their "Buffalo Declaration", in which they decry "Western alienation" caused by being sore losers after the last election. It proposed a set of solutions, which all boil down to giving Alberta more power, and includes recognizing Alberta as a distinct people within Canada, revamping our entire democracy to make it an Albertacracy, exempting Alberta from paying federal taxes, and giving "provinces" complete and exclusive control over energy projects (and by "provinces" I assume they mean Alberta, because I don't think they'd like it if BC and Québec had control over energy projects), and threathen Alberta separation if they don't get it. They of course take a sideline to bitch against Pierre Trudeau's NEP, because why the fuck not at this point. And my favourite bit, which was a hard call, is:
“At time of writing, activists with a colonial ideology are breaking laws in blockades of critical industry, for the sake of closing down Alberta industry.”
You heard it from Alberta: the real colonial oppressor in Canada are the First Nations! :rotate:
This is the shit I was talking about a few pages ago.
Speaking of Alberta, four Albertans MPs have apprently released their "Buffalo Declaration", in which they decry "Western alienation" caused by being sore losers after the last election. It proposed a set of solutions, which all boil down to giving Alberta more power, and includes recognizing Alberta as a distinct people within Canada, revamping our entire democracy to make it an Albertacracy, exempting Alberta from paying federal taxes, and giving "provinces" complete and exclusive control over energy projects (and by "provinces" I assume they mean Alberta, because I don't think they'd like it if BC and Québec had control over energy projects), and threathen Alberta separation if they don't get it. They of course take a sideline to bitch against Pierre Trudeau's NEP, because why the fuck not at this point. And my favourite bit, which was a hard call, is:
“At time of writing, activists with a colonial ideology are breaking laws in blockades of critical industry, for the sake of closing down Alberta industry.”
You heard it from Alberta: the real colonial oppressor in Canada are the First Nations! :rotate:
This is the shit I was talking about a few pages ago.
They were going to do shit like that whether there was blockades or not.
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I'm not seeing any source quoted there on the more recent announcement so I'm not sure what they are referring to.
While googling for CN layoffs, I found this:
https://globalnews.ca/news/6569418/via-rail-layoffs-service-ontario-quebec/ Which sounds different from other layoffs they are doing, mentioned further down the article:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/rcmp-withdraw-bc-1.5469669
Not sure this is gonna work as it's functionally the same situation as it is today but maybe it'll ratchet down some of the tension.
Also, you're ALWAYS going to find detractors within a group, like doctors and nurses who don't believe in vaccination or a woman's right to choose. It should surprise nobody that there are people within that group who want the protesters to stop.
Perhaps I can interest you in my meager selection of pins?
Until the legal claim is resolved, this will keep happening. There are people protesting the pipeline because no pipelines. But at the core, what this is really about, is First Nation agency. That's what needs to be sorted out.
The problem is that there is no way to settle this without literally starting over. The treaty/reserve system is fucked to the core.
And there is no politician in Canada that will touch that with a 10' pole.
Not disagreeing in general, but going from here to there seems like a reach.
It's not like trans-national pipelines aren't a thing everywhere else in the world. Just because Russian and Germany really want a pipeline through Poland, they don't just invade it and okay bad example but still.
If you want a pipeline through a nation you have to negotiate with them, and they can tell you to fuck off. Then you have to make it longer and go around or what ever not that complicated.
The problem is the members of the nations don’t necessarily agree who speaks with authority to agree or reject any deals negotiated.
So having to start from scratch on how Canada recognizes and interacts with First Nations, which is currently hamstrung by both existing legislation and treaties as well as years of bad faith on the part of the Federal and Provincial governments.
MWO: Adamski
Legitimate political disagreements within communities is not science denial nor is it a fringe perspective.
See, this is where it get's complicated.
They are a nation inside another nation that has zero financial independence, are not self governing 100% of the time and in many cases very limited ways to generate revenue.
Germany does not pay for Poland's healthcare, roads & utilities.
I'm not condoning this just calling it out.
This is what makes every negation a huge deal because we are not dealing with the Native people as we would a foreign nation.
This has to change but can't because we are stuck in the same cycle. To make things fair Canada would need to cede much power/land/money.
And no politician will do this.
I would also say that the general public, who in a democracy get to vote and all that, basically do not even understand the idea that they represent any sort of independent anything.
This is very true as well.
Hell, bring up healing lodges to the average person and prepare for a rant.
At least the CBC article on this showed the video of the meeting.
Not exactly an article that does much to convince me that 200 people are all in agreement (a generous number for the attendees too, not ever seat was filled in that auditorium) or that they represent the opinions of the approximately 5000 people of the Wet’suwet’en. That’s not even ~4% of their population if everyone in that room was Wet’suwet’en, which they most assuredly were not which you can see in the video of the meeting.
Here is the link to the video http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1700355651736/
A modern treaty being a priority before development is everyone’s business.
Here are some handy articles that delve in the issues, and I am surprised this is the case, coming from Maclean's:
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/the-wetsuweten-are-more-united-than-pipeline-backers-want-you-to-think/
https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/these-protestors-know-more-about-indigenous-issues-than-you-think/
Doesn't seem right to just throw up our hands and say its too hard for politicians to get near, we have modern treaties already in play that both the BC NDP (Nisga'a) and BC Liberals (Maa-nulth) have received accolades for. Heck, just the other day we were looking at how the Cree Nation and Quebec just got to bragging about their development deal being signed.
I think a mistake commonly being made in these discussions is that it gets ignored that Truth & Reconciliation commitments aren't just promises to First Nations people, but to Canadian's writ large.
Perhaps I can interest you in my meager selection of pins?
That's fair, I do agree the reporting / media seeks out "both sides" narratives but I'd maintain they didn't need to look far at all in this situation given there is significant support for the project.
I see where a lot used to be, they've either fallen apart or been torn off. I saw a fair number that faded right out.
Ah, so they used the same manufacturer as the new licence plates.
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I see them regularly in ottawa at multiple gas station. I still believe they have to have them in place.
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90% of the code my wife bills while she is at these sites is effected. They have new codes that they would have to use but there is no rates posted for these new codes and they may not have the rates determined when the changes go in effect beginning of April.. physicians can still bill those codes but any changes will be retroactively reclaimed once rates are determined.
Tyler Shandro went on the news and was all “oh doctors aren’t willing to negotiate” which is bullshit, UCP dropped it on the doctors lap and said we aren’t honoring the contracts and what we say goes. It then went to arbitration (or was it mediation.. ) which failed for the same reason despite the AMA offering up potential solutions.
UCP are both setting the narrative that oh doctors are greedy they are leaving AHS sites because of Money, and to point and say oh look public health isn’t sustainable we need private.
As it stands we can’t budget we have no idea of what rates are but she is expected to work without knowing how much she makes with the risk of any money she does make getting clawed back. We aren't sure what percentage of a decrease in those codes would be a deal breaker for us either.
https://www.alberta.ca/assets/documents/health-med-215-bulletin-facility-based-codes.pdf
Was that in regards to the change in pension management companies from internal management over to AIMco?
I saw a somewhat similar posting at a local Coop gas station blaming the striking Unifor refinery workers for the gas shortages after it was management that clawed back benefits and refused to negotiate.
But then I saw all the anti union posts about it on Facebook and I had a sad.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/carbon-risk-alberta-public-pension-1.5469552
This is not a good investment strategy.
I believe this is Alberta's licence-plate motto.
That won't help industry jobs or salaries of workers or the income tax reaping of the province...but the fund managers will quickly act if a winner becomes a loser on the market.
The relative performance of managed funds to things like index funds or ETFs would indicate otherwise.
It's actually :
"When you can't put more stuff in your one basket, buy a bigger basket" .
That's only because KFC sued to prevent them from using the much simpler "Double Down"
Though in this case Triple down, or are we Quadruple down now.. how many boom/busts have we had?
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“At time of writing, activists with a colonial ideology are breaking laws in blockades of critical industry, for the sake of closing down Alberta industry.”
You heard it from Alberta: the real colonial oppressor in Canada are the First Nations! :rotate:
Ugh.. Iceland is looking more and more attractive every passing day.
This is the shit I was talking about a few pages ago.
They were going to do shit like that whether there was blockades or not.