I want future generations to 1) exist and 2) be able to look back at this as the start of something good
It's really hard for me not to be pessimistic about it, though, I'm so scared we'll look at the past two weeks of incredibly overt police violence (what was the count in that Twitter thread? 261 incidents?) and just...go back to normal
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GustavFriend of GoatsSomewhere in the OzarksRegistered Userregular
Maybe its foolish of me but this is probably the first sparks of optimism to pop off in the corner of my psyche in years
I’m both giddy and terrified by the idea that Minneapolis will be disbanding it’s police force. That seems like potentially a huge forward step. However the cops are already rioting and I can’t imagine being told “you don’t work here anymore” is gonna calm things down. If this really happens their response is probably going to be bad.
I’m both giddy and terrified by the idea that Minneapolis will be disbanding it’s police force. That seems like potentially a huge forward step. However the cops are already rioting and I can’t imagine being told “you don’t work here anymore” is gonna calm things down. If this really happens their response is probably going to be bad.
I don’t know. I’m willing to bet if you take the badge away from most cops they’re just cowards.
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Cops are bullies and without power bullies can’t bully.
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I ZimbraWorst song, played on ugliest guitarRegistered Userregular
there will absolutely be problems with disgruntled former law enforcement but that's definitely not a reason to hesitate to disband the police, if you're not doing it because of fear of retaliation that tells you exactly why they need to have their power removed in the first place.
Cops are bullies and without power bullies can’t bully.
Maybe you’re right. I hope you are. It’s just that there are also a bunch of them together with a bunch of weapons and if they are fired who is going to tell them to go home?
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Cops are bullies and without power bullies can’t bully.
Maybe you’re right. I hope you are. It’s just that there are also a bunch of them together with a bunch of weapons and if they are fired who is going to tell them to go home?
Cops don’t want to get in trouble. The only reason they do the things they do is because they can get away with it. Most cops would piss themselves if they had to go to jail for anything.
Maybe its foolish of me but this is probably the first sparks of optimism to pop off in the corner of my psyche in years
I just feel like I can so clearly see the path towards neoliberalism taking the day and this movement being stopped short in the name of civility
yup. there is always a huge threat from indifferent people who just want to go back to the world where the news could be ignored.
But in a small mostly white liberal (the painfully exhausting kind) town in arkansas we had a protest. Cops kneeled and a national anthem singalong happened. And no violence or escalation. But it felt like a commercial in every insincere way.
The next day though? The larger pull of the town was "wait, the cops didn't promise shit. The just got on their knees a couple times. Also like other officers seemed to be patrolling the neighborhoods with the larger percentage of the black population if they weren't at the protest. Didn't we just fund the building of a new police station? We should revisit that."
Of course it remains to be seen what happens. But it felt affirming that the a large segment of town didnt eat the shit sandwich offered to them completely.
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
Cops are bullies and without power bullies can’t bully.
Maybe you’re right. I hope you are. It’s just that there are also a bunch of them together with a bunch of weapons and if they are fired who is going to tell them to go home?
Cops don’t want to get in trouble. The only reason they do the things they do is because they can get away with it. Most cops would piss themselves if they had to go to jail for anything.
for context here, Nikkita Oliver is a local lawyer and activist who came in third to Durkan in the last mayoral election
this performance and the past several years of organizing probably mean she's got a great shot in next year's election, and though I'll almost certainly vote for her if she runs, I honestly think the office is beneath her
Extremely good thread to point people to or quote from when you see jackasses trying to deflect with things like "what about black on black crime."
Big issues with black on black crime is as follows
[Thick east african accent]
*law abiding citizens' bad experiences with police means no one calls police to deal with criminal elemente
*law abiding citizens that do call police get cuffed by police, allowing criminal elements to get away.
*law abiding citizens helping discourage criminal element randomly arrested or killed by police, validating criminal elements' lifestyles.
[/teaa]
In essence, black on black crime is a thing because police keep fucking things up.
Cops are bullies and without power bullies can’t bully.
Overall I agree
But I don't think that their position of authority is necessarily the only thing that gives cops their power
White people in a white supremacist state have inherent power, people with firearms have some degree of inherent power, and those two absolutely compound upon one another
It might not be the same power, or power to the same degree, and that will deter some folks
But it certainly won't deter all of them
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
people have a natural tendency to submit to perceived authority, and to be complicit to their orders
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Minneapolis city council member, ward 5
(NO I DIDNT TAKE A PIC OF MY SCREEN THAT WOULD BE A HIPAA VIOLATION TECHNICALLY)
It's from 2012. Hunted, a cinemax movie.
https://www.facebook.com/1408254622/posts/10224397990723187/?d=null&vh=i
"Alright, I just finished the 'Barr says order to clear Lafayette Park before Trump photo op not related, just happy coincidence' article."
"Yeah, about that..."
Language and phrases, yes. Beyond that is.......*gesticulates wildly at last 100 years*
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
I want future generations to 1) exist and 2) be able to look back at this as the start of something good
It's really hard for me not to be pessimistic about it, though, I'm so scared we'll look at the past two weeks of incredibly overt police violence (what was the count in that Twitter thread? 261 incidents?) and just...go back to normal
shocking!
Poor Jake Fromm. You aren’t good enough to be racist. Only the true greats get to be racist and keep playing.
I just feel like I can so clearly see the path towards neoliberalism taking the day and this movement being stopped short in the name of civility
Extremely good thread to point people to or quote from when you see jackasses trying to deflect with things like "what about black on black crime."
I don’t know. I’m willing to bet if you take the badge away from most cops they’re just cowards.
I bet Drew Brees is sending him the biggest Edible Arrangement he can find
You can’t be racist unless you’ve met the following criteria
20,000 career passing yards
100 touchdowns
A rating above 85
Or you’ve won a Super Bowl.
You also have to be white.
Maybe you’re right. I hope you are. It’s just that there are also a bunch of them together with a bunch of weapons and if they are fired who is going to tell them to go home?
Cops don’t want to get in trouble. The only reason they do the things they do is because they can get away with it. Most cops would piss themselves if they had to go to jail for anything.
Server maintenance is woke now
You won't, because your leadership are horrific sociopaths.
yup. there is always a huge threat from indifferent people who just want to go back to the world where the news could be ignored.
But in a small mostly white liberal (the painfully exhausting kind) town in arkansas we had a protest. Cops kneeled and a national anthem singalong happened. And no violence or escalation. But it felt like a commercial in every insincere way.
The next day though? The larger pull of the town was "wait, the cops didn't promise shit. The just got on their knees a couple times. Also like other officers seemed to be patrolling the neighborhoods with the larger percentage of the black population if they weren't at the protest. Didn't we just fund the building of a new police station? We should revisit that."
Of course it remains to be seen what happens. But it felt affirming that the a large segment of town didnt eat the shit sandwich offered to them completely.
cops tend to get murdered extremely bad in prison
GTA is the FURTHEST thing from an anarchist or anti-establishment video game. Holy shit it is ironically one of the most Cop Games out there.
Did they ever do anything about all the people doing racist shit in RDR online or nah?
Not that I ever heard.
why would they do a thing that hurts their financials?
I figured I knew the answer, but still had to ask.
for context here, Nikkita Oliver is a local lawyer and activist who came in third to Durkan in the last mayoral election
this performance and the past several years of organizing probably mean she's got a great shot in next year's election, and though I'll almost certainly vote for her if she runs, I honestly think the office is beneath her
Big issues with black on black crime is as follows
[Thick east african accent]
*law abiding citizens' bad experiences with police means no one calls police to deal with criminal elemente
*law abiding citizens that do call police get cuffed by police, allowing criminal elements to get away.
*law abiding citizens helping discourage criminal element randomly arrested or killed by police, validating criminal elements' lifestyles.
[/teaa]
In essence, black on black crime is a thing because police keep fucking things up.
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
Overall I agree
But I don't think that their position of authority is necessarily the only thing that gives cops their power
White people in a white supremacist state have inherent power, people with firearms have some degree of inherent power, and those two absolutely compound upon one another
It might not be the same power, or power to the same degree, and that will deter some folks
But it certainly won't deter all of them