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[Webcomics]? In this economy?

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Vgcats updated and has a new comic


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    No video games observed

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Vgcats updated and has a new comic


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    No video games observed

    I'm not sure I understand the reference. It is amazing that he managed to post a single 2019 comic, 7 and a half months into 2020.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
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    Gunnerkrigg Court

    Nice to meet you, Whichever.

    Odin is truly a god without mercy

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Vgcats updated and has a new comic


    .....

    No video games observed

    I'm not sure I understand the reference. It is amazing that he managed to post a single 2019 comic, 7 and a half months into 2020.

    I think the reference is that they haven't updated in a while. He's been trapped in the couch, and she's been out looking for work.

    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    edited July 2020
    Is there some equivalency to be made between Tony and Tyr the one handed

    I only know about that dude from Neverwinter Nights so I am not fully versed on the intricacies of norse mythology

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    statlerstatler Registered User regular
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    RaveRave Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    I find comics that went to absolute hell but kept riding through it more interesting than timeless mediocrity.

    Like, Erfworld, even before the gigantic absurd collapse that ended the comic, was just the most amazing premise and first arc and went to absolute hell afterwards. Multiple kickstarters for minor things. Constant falling-outs with artists that resulted in delays and radical art shifts. It's own not-quite-patreom system that was effectively a merch subscription system simultaneously funding the comic worse because of overhead costs and requiring a huge amount of shipping work. Bitcoin mining attached to the forum. Multiple site redesigns, some of which resulted in actual comic updates being pushed off the front page by fanart submissions (only briefly). And the comic itself started to answer every question with "we'll get to that after two side stories with no apparent connection to the current plot at all", resulting in a tight story about an "evil" faction pulling off a win turning into an eight-plot-thread pileup without even the shape of any upcoming plot being clear.

    Like, the comic was failing in arenas other comics would never dream of entering, and it was constantly looking for new ways to fail harder and more uniquely. It truly was the most Webcomics Webcomic of all time.

    O man, Erfworld is a blast from the past. Did it finally end? I stopped reading when it became more of a web novel and less of a webcomic. How did it come to an end?

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Rave wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    I find comics that went to absolute hell but kept riding through it more interesting than timeless mediocrity.

    Like, Erfworld, even before the gigantic absurd collapse that ended the comic, was just the most amazing premise and first arc and went to absolute hell afterwards. Multiple kickstarters for minor things. Constant falling-outs with artists that resulted in delays and radical art shifts. It's own not-quite-patreom system that was effectively a merch subscription system simultaneously funding the comic worse because of overhead costs and requiring a huge amount of shipping work. Bitcoin mining attached to the forum. Multiple site redesigns, some of which resulted in actual comic updates being pushed off the front page by fanart submissions (only briefly). And the comic itself started to answer every question with "we'll get to that after two side stories with no apparent connection to the current plot at all", resulting in a tight story about an "evil" faction pulling off a win turning into an eight-plot-thread pileup without even the shape of any upcoming plot being clear.

    Like, the comic was failing in arenas other comics would never dream of entering, and it was constantly looking for new ways to fail harder and more uniquely. It truly was the most Webcomics Webcomic of all time.

    O man, Erfworld is a blast from the past. Did it finally end? I stopped reading when it became more of a web novel and less of a webcomic. How did it come to an end?
    I think the author had to stop due to a family tragedy and essentially pulled the plug on the comic publicly . They kept part of it going privately for patreon members who had already donated out of obligation.

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    RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    Rave wrote: »
    milski wrote: »
    I find comics that went to absolute hell but kept riding through it more interesting than timeless mediocrity.

    Like, Erfworld, even before the gigantic absurd collapse that ended the comic, was just the most amazing premise and first arc and went to absolute hell afterwards. Multiple kickstarters for minor things. Constant falling-outs with artists that resulted in delays and radical art shifts. It's own not-quite-patreom system that was effectively a merch subscription system simultaneously funding the comic worse because of overhead costs and requiring a huge amount of shipping work. Bitcoin mining attached to the forum. Multiple site redesigns, some of which resulted in actual comic updates being pushed off the front page by fanart submissions (only briefly). And the comic itself started to answer every question with "we'll get to that after two side stories with no apparent connection to the current plot at all", resulting in a tight story about an "evil" faction pulling off a win turning into an eight-plot-thread pileup without even the shape of any upcoming plot being clear.

    Like, the comic was failing in arenas other comics would never dream of entering, and it was constantly looking for new ways to fail harder and more uniquely. It truly was the most Webcomics Webcomic of all time.

    O man, Erfworld is a blast from the past. Did it finally end? I stopped reading when it became more of a web novel and less of a webcomic. How did it come to an end?

    The personal lives of the creators went to shit and they just ended it.

    Content warning for the entire tale, but it's understandable that they stopped when they did.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
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    milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    edited July 2020
    Yeah, Erfworld had some long-term issues with the health of his wife that put a strain on the comic, but it wasn't those or any outcomes of those that ended it. What ended it was... well, they wanted it private and it's pretty awful, but you can find info if you Google.

    To clarify, none of this is why I find Erfworld's collapse or oddities fascinating; all the stuff that made it a bloated, shambling corpse was exciting, but the killing blow was just tragic and totally unrelated to all the mismanagement.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    It was a really decent webcomic that became an absolute sprawling mess, like, mid series wheel of time level pacing issues

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Nobody remembers the singer. The song remains.
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    RaveRave Registered User regular
    milski wrote: »
    Yeah, Erfworld had some long-term issues with the health of his wife that put a strain on the comic, but it wasn't those or any outcomes of those that ended it. What ended it was... well, they wanted it private and it's pretty awful, but you can find info if you Google.

    To clarify, none of this is why I find Erfworld's collapse or oddities fascinating; all the stuff that made it a bloated, shambling corpse was exciting, but the killing blow was just tragic and totally unrelated to all the mismanagement.

    I googled. I really wish I hadn't. Damn

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    HeadCreepsHeadCreeps NOW IS THE TIME FOR DRINKING! Registered User regular


    The start of Tiger, Tiger's second book approaches, complete with ominous exposition

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    HeadCreepsHeadCreeps NOW IS THE TIME FOR DRINKING! Registered User regular
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    GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    edited July 2020
    Those tags are for retailers, not customers!

    It actually makes total sense!

    There was a serious issue with mattress salesmen lying about the mattresses!

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    To what end

    Like what was the grift, cheap knockoff matresses with crappy spot welds

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    edited July 2020
    Hobnail wrote: »
    To what end

    Like what was the grift, cheap knockoff matresses with crappy spot welds

    Yes. Cut corners by putting whatever old shit you have laying around in there. To as bad as taking old mattresses from hospitals, cutting them up and cramming them into new mattresses, and congrats your customer just bought a disease to sleep on.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
    Brolo wrote: »
    Vgcats updated and has a new comic


    .....

    No video games observed

    I'm not sure I understand the reference. It is amazing that he managed to post a single 2019 comic, 7 and a half months into 2020.

    I think the reference is that they haven't updated in a while. He's been trapped in the couch, and she's been out looking for work.

    Also that comic was posted over a month ago and I was sitting on it wondering how long it'd take someone in-thread to notice and post :V

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    DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Aistan wrote: »
    Hobnail wrote: »
    To what end

    Like what was the grift, cheap knockoff matresses with crappy spot welds

    Yes. Cut corners by putting whatever old shit you have laying around in there. To as bad as taking old mattresses from hospitals, cutting them up and cramming them into new mattresses, and congrats your customer just bought a disease to sleep on.

    Amazing to learn that despite mattresses currently being like the most scammy buying experience outside of used cars this is the new, improved and cleaned up version of that industry.

    Nod. Get treat. PSN: Quippish
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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    The last purge movie actually pointed out nobody was killing anyone they were just having raves so they had to bring in kill squads

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    What a scam, I wonder who was the first slimeball to get the brilliant idea to sell counterfeit matresses

    I wonder if anyone tried counterfeiting the tags, "I got a warehouse full of knockoff matresses stuffed with diseased human hair and I gotta move em somehow!!"

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    these 2001-era comics fascinate me

    just plugging along for twenty years, never changing, never once learning how to draw or improving your art in any way. a lifetime of knocking out the most sublimely mediocre content

    like, order of the stick is still going? i remember archive binging that during computer class in high school. oceans have risen and fallen in that time

    Last night in bed I was thinking about comics and I suddenly remembered College Roomies from Hell.

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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    these 2001-era comics fascinate me

    just plugging along for twenty years, never changing, never once learning how to draw or improving your art in any way. a lifetime of knocking out the most sublimely mediocre content

    like, order of the stick is still going? i remember archive binging that during computer class in high school. oceans have risen and fallen in that time

    Last night in bed I was thinking about comics and I suddenly remembered College Roomies from Hell.

    Another "went on hiatus and then came back" one, if memory serves.

    I actually kept it bookmarked through the hiatus, then it started updating again and I went "shit, I remember literally nothing about what's going on here" and stopped reading it.

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    The CRFH author, Maritza Campos, is writing Power Nap now, among other things I think

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    EddyEddy Gengar the Bittersweet Registered User regular
    edited July 2020




    calling it now: won't be no drop of blood because that validates Sol Dave's might-makes-right philosophy; instead White Chain is going to evolve into some new type of angel made out of pure flame that Sol Dave can't touch

    Or maybe WC, Alison, and Cio will triple-fuse like the enantiomorphic diety Talos in Elder Scrolls (who is Hjalti Early-Beard, the Underking, and Zurin Arctus all in one)?

    haha, jk... unless???

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    and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Eddy wrote: »




    calling it now: won't be no drop of blood because that validates Sol Dave's might-makes-right philosophy; instead White Chain is going to evolve into some new type of angel made out of pure flame that Sol Dave can't touch

    Or maybe WC, Alison, and Cio will triple-fuse like the enantiomorphic diety Talos in Elder Scrolls (who is Hjalti Early-Beard, the Underking, and Zurin Arctus all in one)?

    haha, jk... unless???

    I figure White Chain is going to surprise Salami Dave, but still get obliterated. Somehow it will shake SD to his core.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I think that WC does something that makes Solomon Grundy shed a drop of blood but also frustrates him because it won’t be how he wanted it to happen.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    IMO there is no way that White Chain gets a huge power up or something. That goes completely against the themes of this chapter. This isn't about power its about strength of will. The answer to "how does one beat an unstoppable force?" cannot be "just hit him harder".

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    IMO there is no way that White Chain gets a huge power up or something. That goes completely against the themes of this chapter. This isn't about power its about strength of will. The answer to "how does one beat an unstoppable force?" cannot be "just hit him harder".

    Superman solved this. You just becone a luxury sedan

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    IMO there is no way that White Chain gets a huge power up or something. That goes completely against the themes of this chapter. This isn't about power its about strength of will. The answer to "how does one beat an unstoppable force?" cannot be "just hit him harder".

    Right. I don’t think she fights him back. Not directly.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    IMO there is no way that White Chain gets a huge power up or something. That goes completely against the themes of this chapter. This isn't about power its about strength of will. The answer to "how does one beat an unstoppable force?" cannot be "just hit him harder".

    Right. I don’t think she fights him back. Not directly.

    Yeah, she'll fight him with mind games

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    PetesalzlPetesalzl vorpal blade in hand Registered User regular
    anyone been posting drive updates and im just not paying good attention?

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited July 2020
    Is there some equivalency to be made between Tony and Tyr the one handed

    I only know about that dude from Neverwinter Nights so I am not fully versed on the intricacies of norse mythology

    Tyr One-Handed was the Norse god of war. The story of how he lost his hand is a little complicated, but essentially he sacrificed his hand in order to make sure the great wolf Fenrir could be chained up.

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    Dongs GaloreDongs Galore Registered User regular
    edited July 2020
    klemming wrote: »
    Doing any comic is a personal decision, albeit one you commit to and try to keep to a schedule when it becomes your source of income.
    I'm saying that when you compare it to other daily comics (PvP, DoA, Real Life, Skin Horse, QC, any newspaper strip), I'd say that after ten years it was probably near the top, art-wise.

    This is fair tbh. Now that I think about it Schlock also was pretty creative at panel arrangement, which a lot of "newspaper" style daily strips neglect. (for example, I think Sinfest almost never breaks its 4-panel daily format)

    My main gripe with his art is that the backgrounds tended to be extremely sparse (up to and including just a monotone color behind the characters, especially when they're supposed to be indoors), although he also got better at that and could do pretty solid ones when he tried to. It made a lot of the spaceship interiors seem weirdly featureless, in contrast to the level of technical detail in the dialog.

    The author's big strength imo is coming up with interesting sci-fi combat scenarios and letting them play out organically with creative solutions and stuff

    e: I guess what I wanna say is that for a thirty-two-year-old middle manager's first-ever try at drawing a comic, with no prior drawing experience, he did pretty damn good

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