I guess the question with Infidel is whether mafia Inf or village Inf places their vote on J4 after having damage inexplicably busdriven off them from the then purported vig.
Or if he just lies to get the vig voted off.
Also if Inf is mafia, then you're looking at a successful guard stopping the mafia kill last night, as I don't think the vote record block would stop the kill and Inf was around at vote close.
I'm sorry I've been much busier this weekend than i expected; can you go step by step on that inference to a successful guard from Infidel being around at vote close?
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JaysonFour died green after previously claiming he targeted Infidel with an attack. Infidel said he didn't take any damage.
This is either a lie, which means we vote him out. Or it means he was the target of a busdriver. I got hit for 8 that same night. Did anyone else? If not that means it was busdriven to me (or the person it was busdriven to died that night or the last). I guess it could also mean he was guarded, but the 8 damage I took is coincidental enough to make me think the busdrive over guarding.
If no one else can claim they took 8 damage, then it likely means Infidel was the target of a busdrive onto me.
Adding another layer to this, I was also hit by a heal that same night. I asked in thread for the person to come forward because I assumed that would be a village power (I still mostly do). The person who healed me came forward and said they targeted me. So, this means one of two things:
1) They are telling the truth, which implies the busdrive is a one-way busdrive.
2) They are lying. This would mean they knew about the busdrive and realized they could claim they targeted me because I wouldn't know they knew about the busdrive.
I'm inclined to believe its scenario #1. But in case its scenario #2, that would likely imply both Infidel and the healer are mafia, since in order for the healer to know about the busdrive it would imply they knew about someone else's actions which implies informed minority.
I think Infidel is our best vote today. Busdrivers aren't usually a village ability. And it makes sense the mafia would busdrive off of Infidel, fearing his big name would make him the target of an early hit squad.
I don't think this follows.
It implies that Infidel states the truth about receiving no damage after having the attack busdriven off him by a mafia fellow.
Which.. he has no reason to not just say 'Yeah I took 8 damage' at that point and not expose himself.
I think it's more likely the mafia took 8 damage after being busdriven onto Infidel.
And is now not telling us that they took damage.
And I may be going insane and misremembering someone talking about seeing something they weren't meant to see?
I thought it was in JaysonFour's posts, but I couldn't find it again.
This happened to me the night I took a potshot at LostNinja the night he got killed; I assume this is some kinda SK ability about who he targeted. I also didn't say much that day except to make that point, then I got hammered last night. Might be a connection there.
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I guess the question with Infidel is whether mafia Inf or village Inf places their vote on J4 after having damage inexplicably busdriven off them from the then purported vig.
Or if he just lies to get the vig voted off.
Also if Inf is mafia, then you're looking at a successful guard stopping the mafia kill last night, as I don't think the vote record block would stop the kill and Inf was around at vote close.
I'm sorry I've been much busier this weekend than i expected; can you go step by step on that inference to a successful guard from Infidel being around at vote close?
The mafia kill didn't happen, and Infidel was around at vote close, so the mafia kill wouldn't have been left on J4 and was most likely guarded successfully instead.
We dont know what kind of powers are out there as specials. It doesn't make sense for infidel to lie about taking an 8 point scratch so there is probably more to the story that involves more powers. It feels like disc and obifett are both acting very erratic in a way that forces the their will on the voting and I dont like it.
And I got nothing informing me of any powers either, just confirmation from the host when asking if there was any information I was missing that I was supposed to have.
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On day one, I think if someone has a busdrive they'd use it on themselves. Same with a guard.
On day one, I think if someone has a busdrive they'd use it on themselves. Same with a guard.
Have you played much phalla?
You should know that those powers more often than not do not allow you to use on yourself.
But mafia using it on another mafia member seems like a good strategy. Mess up the seer result if either is targeted. From a numbers perspective that would make a bus driver pair 50/50 mafia which are good odds. I am going by the assumption that it is a two way bus driver.
I do go back to it being the much safer play for Infidel to have agreed with J4's initial claim, rather than refute it if they were mafia. This was pretty much unforced information.
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On day one, I think if someone has a busdrive they'd use it on themselves. Same with a guard.
Have you played much phalla?
You should know that those powers more often than not do not allow you to use on yourself.
But mafia using it on another mafia member seems like a good strategy. Mess up the seer result if either is targeted. From a numbers perspective that would make a bus driver pair 50/50 mafia which are good odds. I am going by the assumption that it is a two way bus driver.
I do go back to it being the much safer play for Infidel to have agreed with J4's initial claim, rather than refute it if they were mafia. This was pretty much unforced information.
As mafia in a battle game, especially as early as day 2, you've gotta tell the truth or else risk it coming back on you. Plus it resulted in more confusion that got J4 voted out.
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Oh, and IF it was a busdriver it can't be two way because I was healed and that didn't get busdriven as evidenced by the healer coming to me in PMs the same day I posted I was healed.
We still have no-one else claiming the 8 damage, which should be able to resolve this if the busdriver is not on Infidel and Obifett.
We also have Obbi claiming 8 damage last night, after J4 died.
So potentially there are other 8 damage attacks.
The alternative being Obbi is lying.
Walk me through how someone else claiming 8 damage resolve anything if there are multiple 8-damage attacks out there?
Like I'm a child.
Obifett is assuming he was busdrove onto because he took 8 damage night one.
Obbi took 8 damage night two, which is either a lie or a second 8 damaging attack.
If there's a busdriver, then someone else could have taken 8 damage aside Obifett night one, which makes it less likely that it's a single-direction busdriver that hurt Obifett but didn't redirect the heal that hit him that night.
Now this is a spider pic (warning for arachnophobes):
These Huntsman spiders are apparently big enough to eat possums (around about a foot in length) and are among the reasons I won't be going on walkabout to Australia anytime soon.
Article I read was pulled from the NYpost so I am not so certain on it's authenticity now. Still big spiders.
We still have no-one else claiming the 8 damage, which should be able to resolve this if the busdriver is not on Infidel and Obifett.
We also have Obbi claiming 8 damage last night, after J4 died.
So potentially there are other 8 damage attacks.
The alternative being Obbi is lying.
Walk me through how someone else claiming 8 damage resolve anything if there are multiple 8-damage attacks out there?
Like I'm a child.
Obifett is assuming he was busdrove onto because he took 8 damage night one.
Obbi took 8 damage night two, which is either a lie or a second 8 damaging attack.
If there's a busdriver, then someone else could have taken 8 damage aside Obifett night one, which makes it less likely that it's a single-direction busdriver that hurt Obifett but didn't redirect the heal that hit him that night.
Limited information that I have, eight damage seems to be the more common amount, which is why obifett taking eight damage on that night is most likely a coincidence and not some weird bus driving thing. It also doesn't have to be a bus driver that stopped the hit, could well have been a guard that just prevents damage.
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We still have no-one else claiming the 8 damage, which should be able to resolve this if the busdriver is not on Infidel and Obifett.
We also have Obbi claiming 8 damage last night, after J4 died.
So potentially there are other 8 damage attacks.
The alternative being Obbi is lying.
Walk me through how someone else claiming 8 damage resolve anything if there are multiple 8-damage attacks out there?
Like I'm a child.
Obifett is assuming he was busdrove onto because he took 8 damage night one.
Obbi took 8 damage night two, which is either a lie or a second 8 damaging attack.
If there's a busdriver, then someone else could have taken 8 damage aside Obifett night one, which makes it less likely that it's a single-direction busdriver that hurt Obifett but didn't redirect the heal that hit him that night.
Limited information that I have, eight damage seems to be the more common amount, which is why obifett taking eight damage on that night is most likely a coincidence and not some weird bus driving thing. It also doesn't have to be a bus driver that stopped the hit, could well have been a guard that just prevents damage.
Fwiw, and From my limited information, 8 damage doesn't seem common at all.
Would expect the guard to block the vig shot entirely though.
But that's up to whether the host made the vig misfire if the original 'tapping' is blocked
For the record, Bluecyan sent me a PM right in between the Invictus / discrider votes, which was fun, instead of responding to me in thread. Weird but honestly I'm not sure shaking the tree here has me feeling anything down the assassin hole, in fact I feel less good about the Bluecyan vote.
ObiFett just talking a lot of shit that doesn't hold up and we have plenty of known missing information from the public view (we don't need to all out ourselves but several villagers will have 8 HP attacks) and the weird thing isn't people being quiet, it's ObiFett being so sure of a bus driver being (a) on me to him (b) a one-way and (c) a mafia bus driver. I don't think the majority here will agree with you on all that with the info at hand.
jdarksun? Bluecyan? Yeah no, leaving vote on ObiFett.
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I'm sorry I've been much busier this weekend than i expected; can you go step by step on that inference to a successful guard from Infidel being around at vote close?
This happened to me the night I took a potshot at LostNinja the night he got killed; I assume this is some kinda SK ability about who he targeted. I also didn't say much that day except to make that point, then I got hammered last night. Might be a connection there.
The mafia kill didn't happen, and Infidel was around at vote close, so the mafia kill wouldn't have been left on J4 and was most likely guarded successfully instead.
I've got nothing from the host so it really seems likely that shenanigans are afoot.
J4 was shady at the time cause he was pretty confident about things that did not happen and wasn't leaving a lot of room open.
He misplayed it and I didn't lie. I also don't really have a lot more to share, other than there are 8 HP attacks that are baseline villager.
This is kinda directed at @Bluecyan
2 votes for jdarksun (Lucedes 1, Obbi 3)
1 vote for davidsdurions (discrider 2)
1 vote for Infidel (Obifett 4)
1 vote for Obifett (Bluecyan 5)
Why did you necro the Pikmin thread
I have a Switch now and it's only for RingFit
This is a personal attack
Time to vote for whoever did that eh?
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I have?
(So say we all.)
Would also get rid of his spider avatar.
Explain how my vote is weak.
You were either blindly guarded, which seems weird. Or you were busdriven off of.
In a battle phalla like this, as early in the game as you were defended, it's more likely it was done as part of an informed minority, imo.
Give me a better trail to follow and I will. But this is the best tree to shake right now.
Your argument is that people wouldn't use powers on Infidel day 1 without coordinating it first?
Yeah, see, that's super weak and most everyone knows that.
Have you played much phalla?
You should know that those powers more often than not do not allow you to use on yourself.
Not true. In the slightest. Especially in battle phallas like this.
But mafia using it on another mafia member seems like a good strategy. Mess up the seer result if either is targeted. From a numbers perspective that would make a bus driver pair 50/50 mafia which are good odds. I am going by the assumption that it is a two way bus driver.
I do go back to it being the much safer play for Infidel to have agreed with J4's initial claim, rather than refute it if they were mafia. This was pretty much unforced information.
As mafia in a battle game, especially as early as day 2, you've gotta tell the truth or else risk it coming back on you. Plus it resulted in more confusion that got J4 voted out.
We also have Obbi claiming 8 damage last night, after J4 died.
So potentially there are other 8 damage attacks.
The alternative being Obbi is lying.
Walk me through how someone else claiming 8 damage resolve anything if there are multiple 8-damage attacks out there?
Like I'm a child.
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Obifett is assuming he was busdrove onto because he took 8 damage night one.
Obbi took 8 damage night two, which is either a lie or a second 8 damaging attack.
If there's a busdriver, then someone else could have taken 8 damage aside Obifett night one, which makes it less likely that it's a single-direction busdriver that hurt Obifett but didn't redirect the heal that hit him that night.
Not a spider but actually a neat insect closer to the cicada family! https://brazilrocket.com/en/meet-the-ball-bearer-leafhopper-the-world-rsquo-s-most-bizarre-bug.
Now this is a spider pic (warning for arachnophobes):
These Huntsman spiders are apparently big enough to eat possums (around about a foot in length) and are among the reasons I won't be going on walkabout to Australia anytime soon.
Article I read was pulled from the NYpost so I am not so certain on it's authenticity now. Still big spiders.
Sugar gliders are tiny.
The article I read said Pygme Possums which are pretty small, but also really cute, so even more reason to dislike those things.
Limited information that I have, eight damage seems to be the more common amount, which is why obifett taking eight damage on that night is most likely a coincidence and not some weird bus driving thing. It also doesn't have to be a bus driver that stopped the hit, could well have been a guard that just prevents damage.
Fwiw, and From my limited information, 8 damage doesn't seem common at all.
But that's up to whether the host made the vig misfire if the original 'tapping' is blocked
It is a mystery.
no self guard is very common.
ObiFett just talking a lot of shit that doesn't hold up and we have plenty of known missing information from the public view (we don't need to all out ourselves but several villagers will have 8 HP attacks) and the weird thing isn't people being quiet, it's ObiFett being so sure of a bus driver being (a) on me to him (b) a one-way and (c) a mafia bus driver. I don't think the majority here will agree with you on all that with the info at hand.
jdarksun? Bluecyan? Yeah no, leaving vote on ObiFett.