Mono-G wasn't cutting it in diamond.
Especially since every deck was planeswalkers because Vorniclex counters them right?
Or something.
Anyway BG poison now with Toski:
Still think village rites is too slow when you're drawing into small things, instead of drawing into big. Better to hexproof it, and have it not summoning sicknessed.
Probably should have all the Ajani's intervention in here, but that's rare.
Playing against Tibalt's Trickery, when they pull off their combo and you still beat them feels pretty nice. Giving them a chance to be greedy usually works wonders.
Playing against Tibalt's Trickery, when they pull off their combo and you still beat them feels pretty nice. Giving them a chance to be greedy usually works wonders.
In the recent Historic FNM I had a Trickery player mulligan to 3 and then scoop when I cast Banishing Light on their hit (Prismatic Bridge). I wish all my games that night were so easy.
Playing against Tibalt's Trickery, when they pull off their combo and you still beat them feels pretty nice. Giving them a chance to be greedy usually works wonders.
In the recent Historic FNM I had a Trickery player mulligan to 3 and then scoop when I cast Banishing Light on their hit (Prismatic Bridge). I wish all my games that night were so easy.
In my game, they hit a Koma. I attacked with my two tiny deathtouch critters and they made the mistake of blocking one with their serpent token rather than take 1 damage. Then I could kill their Koma with a Rampage on my other deathtoucher.
Reached Gold rank for the first time ever today, even though I kind of feel like I shouldn't have.
So I'm playing my mono-Green deck against some kind of mono-Black discard deck. I've got 12 Forests, a Beanstalk Giant, no cards in hand, and about 8 Life left. My opponent's still got cards, a Gray Merchant of Asphodel, a Faceless Haven and 24 Life.
It's not looking good, really.
But then my opponent taps out to cast Peer into the Abyss on themselves. So now they've got a bunch of cards, no mana to cast 'em with, and are suddenly down to 12 Life. All I have to do is topdeck a single removal spell and suddenly I've gone from losing this game to winning it.
And I do. I draw Kogla. I cast the Titan Ape, remove the Merchant, swing in with the Giant for the win.
That's the story of how I reached Gold rank. I feel it's a very undeserved win, but a win's a win.
That was definitely a very risky play from their side. People do get better up the ladder, but you'll still see big mistakes in gold. I'm currently trying to get into diamond and right now it's me that's making the mistakes...
Eh...
When I was still playing Vorniclex in diamond I had someone play Kiora into my Vorniclex
And then play the ultimatum and allowed me to pick a second Kiora and a Valki.
They did not win that game.
.. so not sure if the players get better or if that start deliberately playing poorly to troll you when they're losing.
Is it super competitive, am I going to regret my life choices if I spend all my wildcards on a Rin & Seri & Zirda deck.
odds are, you are going to regret it. There's not many people playing and the pool of opponents are Net Decking effective decks like Kinnan, Garuk and Torbin.
Historic commander is a bit better but they don't let you play it regularly.
As for the "is this commander?" meme, it's not. Low life total makes the game a lot faster than regular Commander and lacks Commander damage, there's no multiplayer, the card pool is really limited and the 60 card limit removes a lot of the random aspects of EDH.
I mean, there's a reason why the easiest way to win a Brawl tournament is to just show up and win by default because no one else came.
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Is it super competitive, am I going to regret my life choices if I spend all my wildcards on a Rin & Seri & Zirda deck.
odds are, you are going to regret it. There's not many people playing and the pool of opponents are Net Decking effective decks like Kinnan, Garuk and Torbin.
Historic commander is a bit better but they don't let you play it regularly.
As for the "is this commander?" meme, it's not. Low life total makes the game a lot faster than regular Commander and lacks Commander damage, there's no multiplayer, the card pool is really limited and the 60 card limit removes a lot of the random aspects of EDH.
I mean, there's a reason why the easiest way to win a Brawl tournament is to just show up and win by default because no one else came.
The big issue is that they are super duper slow in banning things in brawl, so you end up with half the decks being the stupid broken god of the tree or nothing but counterspells/removal.
It's the mode I play the most but I wouldn't say it's a ton of fun right now.
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That's about what I expected.
I very much want to do something with Zirda, and I am tickled by the idea of a creatureless equipment deck.
Maybe some token generators and a ton of wrath effects....
Playing against Tibalt's Trickery, when they pull off their combo and you still beat them feels pretty nice. Giving them a chance to be greedy usually works wonders.
I've won against t2/t3 Trickery more times than I've lost against it. Really, as long as they don't hit Genesis Ultimatum, you're fine. I beat a turn 2 Kiora Bests the Sea-God the other day by waiting out the bribery effect and playing a Mire Triton.
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Had a few games today where I got both Doom Foretold and Tergrid to stick and my opponents kept playing into them. Yes thank you please for all the extra stuff I really appreciate it.
Edit: the best moment was when I was up against an opponent playing a heavy mutate midrange deck and they finally sacrificed their big mutate stack creature... and it split apart and I got all the components onto my side of the battlefield. They immediately conceded.
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Set up AntiMicro so I can play with a controller on the TV and had just the best game.
Kept a two land hand because it looked fun, with Charming Prince and Niambi and Heartless Act. Proceeded to miss several land drops while my opponent got a pair of snow bears to double digit powers and an extremely huge Ascendant Spirit. My Heartless Acts turned into bounce spells thanks to Jorn + Kaldring. I pretty quickly went to 1 and had to pull every trick in the deck to stay alive: bouncing Trufflesnout with Niambi to save it and gain even more life, using Woebringer to generate the extra blockers I needed, discarding a spare Koma with Niambi, sacrificing goat tokens to Koma with Maskwood Nexus, grabbing Kaya back with Bala Ged Recovery, putting a ghost counter on Niambi to get her back to the hand and then bouncing Koma to gain 7, every single little synergy and edge case got used. I very, very slowly got to the point where I could spare the resources to get rid of Kaldring and then the tables slooooooowly finished turning.
It's still not consistent enough but when it works it's so much fun.
Well, I suppose everyone netdecking some Prismatic Bridge deck in Brawl is working out since my deck kills them too fast, but still boring to play against for the nth time. But then if I just want wins suppose I shouldn't look at gift horse in the mouth.
Now watch I start losing to it constantly...
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They need to just fuckin ban Prismatic Bridge in brawl because it's so fuckin boring that 90% of the decks in that casual mode are netdecking tryhards.
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Well, shit. Some <censored> by the name of Ericasaaaaa finally got a perfect curve for the Prismatic Bridge brawl deck so I just left before things kicked off. My perfect record blemished, blast!
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Well, shit. Some brain dead by the name of Ericasaaaaa finally got a perfect curve for the Prismatic Bridge brawl deck so I just left before things kicked off. My perfect record blemished, blast!
I think the rando probably knew what they were about with that username and created the account for that purpose.
Probably shouldn't decry usernames though in case the person is a forumer.
(Final fight was vs Vorniclex/Garruk.
Two Garruks lost to Blightfang later, Vorniclex came down into an immediate Garruk emblem and a world snake.
Had just enough board presence and a clutch Locthwaine draw into a Vengeful Reaper, to trigger enough Blightfang procs and haste over the top to win.)
There are games where I'm so angry I'm stuck in Platinum.
And then there are games where I realize I've missed lethal two turns running and am like, "And that's why you're stuck in plat."
See, I can always just tell myself that I simply don't have the cards (or deckbuilding skills) I need to build a decent meta deck.
Oh, sure, I've got enough Wildcards to netdeck a Dimir Rogues or mono-Blue Mill list, but... I don't wanna. I've decided to save my Wildcards for a Werewolf deck.
Although with Kaldheim here, I'm wondering if there's a decent enough Orzhov or mono-White Angel deck that I could craft.
What are the odds Tibalt's gets banned? There are other deck types that annoy me more, but usually they seem to not favor cards that are like "flip a coin, win or lose now."
What are the odds Tibalt's gets banned? There are other deck types that annoy me more, but usually they seem to not favor cards that are like "flip a coin, win or lose now."
I don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of the Magic community or anything, but the grumbling about Tibalt's Trickery seems to have died down. Unlike with Oko or Omnath, where the grumbling was pretty much non-stop. I'm guessing Trickery decks aren't consistent enough.
It won't kill me for it to continue to exist, but it's one of those decks where I'm like, "Let's just flip a coin rather than play this and if you win you win."
I scoop to turn 2/3 Tibalt into Genesis Ultimatum/Prismatic Bridge, but that's about it. While it is coinflippy, as long as they don't get the combo in their opening (full) hand, they realistically get one threat onto the field and then are topdecking land/7 mana threats. If they mulligan to 4/5 cards, they realistically get one spin at the wheel and then do nothing for what, seven turns? If you hold up mana for Jwari or Heartless Act, you can typically get them to surrender. I wouldn't mind a ban, but mostly because it's boring to play out.
@WotanAnubis I would probably invest in Clerics over Angels for the time being. I imagine Strixhaven and Forgotten Realms to be light on angels, but if we're going back to Innistrad, we're bound to get blown up with them. I've had fairly good results with Orzhov clerics, but it still suffers from W/B's current card advantage dilemma.
Sideboard
4 Bloodchief's Thirst (ZNR) 94
3 Cling to Dust (THB) 87
4 Fight as One (IKO) 12
3 Disenchant (ZNR) 10
1 Runed Halo (M21) 32
For F2P players, I recommend everyone craft a playset of Faceless Haven, as it's pretty fantastic. Taborax and Orah can be played in any quantities of either that you have, you can also replace them with 4x Renegade Reaper +1 CotDD.
There are games where I'm so angry I'm stuck in Platinum.
And then there are games where I realize I've missed lethal two turns running and am like, "And that's why you're stuck in plat."
See, I can always just tell myself that I simply don't have the cards (or deckbuilding skills) I need to build a decent meta deck.
Oh, sure, I've got enough Wildcards to netdeck a Dimir Rogues or mono-Blue Mill list, but... I don't wanna. I've decided to save my Wildcards for a Werewolf deck.
Although with Kaldheim here, I'm wondering if there's a decent enough Orzhov or mono-White Angel deck that I could craft.
Here's the Historic angels list I have been brewing and having fun with. It really doesn't feel like it should be an aggro deck but it actually plays out like one most of the time.
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Gotta say I've really been enjoying this "pre-rotation" festival this weekend. No Eldraine, no TBD, no Ikoria. Enemy Temples still legal thanks to M21. Eldraine especially casts such a shadow over the normal format that it's a completely different world.
Oddly I haven't run into any Rogues decks? Not sure if something extra was banned there or if the loss of Drown was that crippling.
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Gotta say I've really been enjoying this "pre-rotation" festival this weekend. No Eldraine, no TBD, no Ikoria. Enemy Temples still legal thanks to M21. Eldraine especially casts such a shadow over the normal format that it's a completely different world.
Oddly I haven't run into any Rogues decks? Not sure if something extra was banned there or if the loss of Drown was that crippling.
I used a rogue deck and went 4/0 it's still strong, just no drown in the loch.
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Gotta say I've really been enjoying this "pre-rotation" festival this weekend. No Eldraine, no TBD, no Ikoria. Enemy Temples still legal thanks to M21. Eldraine especially casts such a shadow over the normal format that it's a completely different world.
Oddly I haven't run into any Rogues decks? Not sure if something extra was banned there or if the loss of Drown was that crippling.
I used a rogue deck and went 4/0 it's still strong, just no drown in the loch.
I definitely modified my normal BW control deck thinking Rogues would still be around. What I hit instead was a lot of monogreen snow, white(/blue) aggro, and a red/green Dragons thing.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Gotta say I've really been enjoying this "pre-rotation" festival this weekend. No Eldraine, no TBD, no Ikoria. Enemy Temples still legal thanks to M21. Eldraine especially casts such a shadow over the normal format that it's a completely different world.
Oddly I haven't run into any Rogues decks? Not sure if something extra was banned there or if the loss of Drown was that crippling.
I used a rogue deck and went 4/0 it's still strong, just no drown in the loch.
I definitely modified my normal BW control deck thinking Rogues would still be around. What I hit instead was a lot of monogreen snow, white(/blue) aggro, and a red/green Dragons thing.
I literally just used my bog standard rogues deck except I replaced the drown in the loch with other counterspells/removal.
Drown in the loch is insanely useful but rogues survives pretty easily without it. Especially since my flavor doesn't use Into the Story at all.
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Arena does a bunch of hidden mulliganing before it shows you hands to keep, right? To make it much more likely you have a few lands but not too many and maybe even to make it more likely you have early turn plays? I hardly ever seem to get mana flooded or starved in opening hands compared to shuffling in paper magic and I don't think I'm suddenly magically better at deckbuilding now than I was in paper.
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Sounds like someone had the 750g “kill X creatures” quest.
Especially since every deck was planeswalkers because Vorniclex counters them right?
Or something.
Anyway BG poison now with Toski:
3 Fynn, the Fangbearer (KHM) 170
8 Snow-Covered Forest (KHM) 285
4 Foulmire Knight (ELD) 90
4 Raise the Draugr (KHM) 105
3 Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire (KHM) 115
3 Hooded Blightfang (M21) 104
4 Moss Viper (THB) 179
1 Temple of Malady (M21) 253
2 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241
1 Darkbore Pathway (KHM) 254
4 Blizzard Brawl (KHM) 162
2 Woodland Chasm (KHM) 274
7 Snow-Covered Swamp (KHM) 281
3 Khalni Ambush (ZNR) 192
3 Toski, Bearer of Secrets (KHM) 197
1 Mire Triton (JMP) 257
4 Snakeskin Veil (KHM) 194
3 Mire Triton (THB) 105
Probably should have all the Ajani's intervention in here, but that's rare.
In the recent Historic FNM I had a Trickery player mulligan to 3 and then scoop when I cast Banishing Light on their hit (Prismatic Bridge). I wish all my games that night were so easy.
In my game, they hit a Koma. I attacked with my two tiny deathtouch critters and they made the mistake of blocking one with their serpent token rather than take 1 damage. Then I could kill their Koma with a Rampage on my other deathtoucher.
So I'm playing my mono-Green deck against some kind of mono-Black discard deck. I've got 12 Forests, a Beanstalk Giant, no cards in hand, and about 8 Life left. My opponent's still got cards, a Gray Merchant of Asphodel, a Faceless Haven and 24 Life.
It's not looking good, really.
But then my opponent taps out to cast Peer into the Abyss on themselves. So now they've got a bunch of cards, no mana to cast 'em with, and are suddenly down to 12 Life. All I have to do is topdeck a single removal spell and suddenly I've gone from losing this game to winning it.
And I do. I draw Kogla. I cast the Titan Ape, remove the Merchant, swing in with the Giant for the win.
That's the story of how I reached Gold rank. I feel it's a very undeserved win, but a win's a win.
When I was still playing Vorniclex in diamond I had someone play Kiora into my Vorniclex
And then play the ultimatum and allowed me to pick a second Kiora and a Valki.
They did not win that game.
.. so not sure if the players get better or if that start deliberately playing poorly to troll you when they're losing.
Is it super competitive, am I going to regret my life choices if I spend all my wildcards on a Rin & Seri & Zirda deck.
odds are, you are going to regret it. There's not many people playing and the pool of opponents are Net Decking effective decks like Kinnan, Garuk and Torbin.
Historic commander is a bit better but they don't let you play it regularly.
As for the "is this commander?" meme, it's not. Low life total makes the game a lot faster than regular Commander and lacks Commander damage, there's no multiplayer, the card pool is really limited and the 60 card limit removes a lot of the random aspects of EDH.
I mean, there's a reason why the easiest way to win a Brawl tournament is to just show up and win by default because no one else came.
The big issue is that they are super duper slow in banning things in brawl, so you end up with half the decks being the stupid broken god of the tree or nothing but counterspells/removal.
It's the mode I play the most but I wouldn't say it's a ton of fun right now.
I very much want to do something with Zirda, and I am tickled by the idea of a creatureless equipment deck.
Maybe some token generators and a ton of wrath effects....
I've won against t2/t3 Trickery more times than I've lost against it. Really, as long as they don't hit Genesis Ultimatum, you're fine. I beat a turn 2 Kiora Bests the Sea-God the other day by waiting out the bribery effect and playing a Mire Triton.
Edit: the best moment was when I was up against an opponent playing a heavy mutate midrange deck and they finally sacrificed their big mutate stack creature... and it split apart and I got all the components onto my side of the battlefield. They immediately conceded.
Kept a two land hand because it looked fun, with Charming Prince and Niambi and Heartless Act. Proceeded to miss several land drops while my opponent got a pair of snow bears to double digit powers and an extremely huge Ascendant Spirit. My Heartless Acts turned into bounce spells thanks to Jorn + Kaldring. I pretty quickly went to 1 and had to pull every trick in the deck to stay alive: bouncing Trufflesnout with Niambi to save it and gain even more life, using Woebringer to generate the extra blockers I needed, discarding a spare Koma with Niambi, sacrificing goat tokens to Koma with Maskwood Nexus, grabbing Kaya back with Bala Ged Recovery, putting a ghost counter on Niambi to get her back to the hand and then bouncing Koma to gain 7, every single little synergy and edge case got used. I very, very slowly got to the point where I could spare the resources to get rid of Kaldring and then the tables slooooooowly finished turning.
It's still not consistent enough but when it works it's so much fun.
Now watch I start losing to it constantly...
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Probably shouldn't decry usernames though in case the person is a forumer.
Otherwise we'd have all been banned sometime in the last 4 years, heh
4 Fynn, the Fangbearer (KHM) 170
7 Snow-Covered Forest (KHM) 285
4 Foulmire Knight (ELD) 90
4 Raise the Draugr (KHM) 105
2 Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire (KHM) 115
4 Hooded Blightfang (M21) 104
4 Moss Viper (THB) 179
2 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241
4 Blizzard Brawl (KHM) 162
4 Woodland Chasm (KHM) 274
7 Snow-Covered Swamp (KHM) 281
4 Khalni Ambush (ZNR) 192
3 Toski, Bearer of Secrets (KHM) 197
4 Vengeful Reaper (KHM) 116
3 Ram Through (IKO) 170
...
It's jank time
(Final fight was vs Vorniclex/Garruk.
Two Garruks lost to Blightfang later, Vorniclex came down into an immediate Garruk emblem and a world snake.
Had just enough board presence and a clutch Locthwaine draw into a Vengeful Reaper, to trigger enough Blightfang procs and haste over the top to win.)
And then there are games where I realize I've missed lethal two turns running and am like, "And that's why you're stuck in plat."
See, I can always just tell myself that I simply don't have the cards (or deckbuilding skills) I need to build a decent meta deck.
Oh, sure, I've got enough Wildcards to netdeck a Dimir Rogues or mono-Blue Mill list, but... I don't wanna. I've decided to save my Wildcards for a Werewolf deck.
Although with Kaldheim here, I'm wondering if there's a decent enough Orzhov or mono-White Angel deck that I could craft.
I don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of the Magic community or anything, but the grumbling about Tibalt's Trickery seems to have died down. Unlike with Oko or Omnath, where the grumbling was pretty much non-stop. I'm guessing Trickery decks aren't consistent enough.
So... I think the odds are low.
Then again I'd like to see any Wish effect suffer the same fate. Not fair that those cards get to use sideboards but the rest of us don't.
@WotanAnubis I would probably invest in Clerics over Angels for the time being. I imagine Strixhaven and Forgotten Realms to be light on angels, but if we're going back to Innistrad, we're bound to get blown up with them. I've had fairly good results with Orzhov clerics, but it still suffers from W/B's current card advantage dilemma.
4 Archfiend's Vessel (M21) 88
4 Cleric of Life's Bond (ZNR) 222
4 Priest of the Haunted Edge (KHM) 104
4 Demon's Disciple (ZNR) 97
2 Taborax, Hope's Demise (ZNR) 129
4 Righteous Valkyrie (KHM) 24
3 Orah, Skyclave Hierophant (ZNR) 233
4 Village Rites (KHM) 117
3 Call of the Death-Dweller (IKO) 78
4 Snowfield Sinkhole (KHM) 269
4 Snow-Covered Swamp (KHM) 281
4 Snow-Covered Plains (KHM) 277
4 Brightclimb Pathway (ZNR) 259
4 Faceless Haven (KHM) 255
4 Snow-Covered Swamp (KHM) 280
Sideboard
4 Bloodchief's Thirst (ZNR) 94
3 Cling to Dust (THB) 87
4 Fight as One (IKO) 12
3 Disenchant (ZNR) 10
1 Runed Halo (M21) 32
For F2P players, I recommend everyone craft a playset of Faceless Haven, as it's pretty fantastic. Taborax and Orah can be played in any quantities of either that you have, you can also replace them with 4x Renegade Reaper +1 CotDD.
Here's the Historic angels list I have been brewing and having fun with. It really doesn't feel like it should be an aggro deck but it actually plays out like one most of the time.
Deck Image:
3 Seraph of the Scales (RNA) 205
4 Swamp (SLD) 105
7 Plains (SLD) 101
2 Starnheim Unleashed (KHM) 33
4 Youthful Valkyrie (KHM) 382
2 Lyra Dawnbringer (DAR) 26
4 Angel of Grace (RNA) 1
4 Righteous Valkyrie (KHM) 24
2 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241
3 Resplendent Angel (M19) 34
4 Heartless Act (IKO) 91
2 Kaya the Inexorable (KHM) 218
4 Firja's Retribution (KHM) 210
4 Godless Shrine (RNA) 248
4 Isolated Chapel (DAR) 241
1 Legion Angel (ZNR) 23
2 Banishing Light (THB) 4
4 Concealed Courtyard (KLR) 282
Sideboard
3 Legion Angel (ZNR) 23
2 Banishing Light (THB) 4
Currently got:
3 Glorious Protector (KHM) 12
7 Plains (ANB) 115
4 Saw It Coming (KHM) 76
10 Island (ANB) 113
2 Augury Raven (KHM) 44
4 Cosmos Charger (KHM) 51
1 Alrund's Epiphany (KHM) 41
4 Behold the Multiverse (KHM) 46
1 Hengegate Pathway (KHM) 260
3 Niko Defies Destiny (KHM) 226
2 Negate (M20) 69
4 Watcher of the Spheres (M21) 227
1 The Raven's Warning (KHM) 227
4 Jubilant Skybonder (IKO) 223
3 Vega, the Watcher (KHM) 233
2 Gates of Istfell (KHM) 256
3 Temple of Enlightenment (THB) 246
1 Negate (ZNR) 71
1 Negate (RIX) 44
Sideboard (because raven's warning idk)
2 Invoke the Divine (DAR) 22
2 Swift Response (M21) 40
2 Realm-Cloaked Giant (ELD) 26
2 Shark Typhoon (IKO) 67
1 Kiora Bests the Sea God (THB) 52
1 Ugin, the Spirit Dragon (M21) 1
1 Spoils of Adventure (ZNR) 237
1 The Magic Mirror (ELD) 51
1 Doomskar (KHM) 9
2 Daybreak Chimera (THB) 10
Took three turns in a row to win
Oddly I haven't run into any Rogues decks? Not sure if something extra was banned there or if the loss of Drown was that crippling.
I used a rogue deck and went 4/0 it's still strong, just no drown in the loch.
I definitely modified my normal BW control deck thinking Rogues would still be around. What I hit instead was a lot of monogreen snow, white(/blue) aggro, and a red/green Dragons thing.
I literally just used my bog standard rogues deck except I replaced the drown in the loch with other counterspells/removal.
Drown in the loch is insanely useful but rogues survives pretty easily without it. Especially since my flavor doesn't use Into the Story at all.