Why on earth did I watch a nearly two hour video on Disney Fastpass? It was very informative and has cemented my desire to never go to the park because I'm in the has no clue about using this dumb system group. The last time I went was years back when my mother's asthma was bad enough to qualify for one of those disabled passes that let you truly skip the lines.
Going to Disney parks sounds like a nightmare in so many ways
I did go to animal kingdom around the turn of the century, it was too hot and humid out and there was like no shade at all even little teen me thought I might die. But at least my mom's cousin got us in free.
Universal studios was more fun on the same trip.
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I disagree with a lot of conclusions in that Defunctland video, but it's still pretty entertaining and doesn't fall into the standard youtuber trap of "increased production values = dumb, unrelated skits"
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I disagree with a lot of conclusions in that Defunctland video, but it's still pretty entertaining and doesn't fall into the standard youtuber trap of "increased production values = dumb, unrelated skits"
I'm curious what specific conclusions you disagree with. Not that I have a stake in it, I'm just curious how the thesis holds up to criticism.
I don't know who saw the original Home Alone with it's giant Chicago suburbs mansion and the scene where the family that's able to afford a few dozen plane tickets to Japan stiffs the delivery guy on a tip and thought "you know, the working poor didn't get it hard enough in this film."
Kevin's Dad actually gives the pizza delivery guy a very generous tip. He literally says "Nice tip, thanks!" Also they fly to Paris, not Japan.
I watch the original Home Alone on Christmas eve every year and it has always seemed to me that the McAlisters were pretty down to earth for obviously well-off folks.
yeah the setup/execution of that joke is that Kevin tips the same guy less than a dollar when he's alone because he doesn't understand tipping and is also working around the audio clip from the movie.
I don't know who saw the original Home Alone with it's giant Chicago suburbs mansion and the scene where the family that's able to afford a few dozen plane tickets to Japan stiffs the delivery guy on a tip and thought "you know, the working poor didn't get it hard enough in this film."
Kevin's Dad actually gives the pizza delivery guy a very generous tip. He literally says "Nice tip, thanks!" Also they fly to Paris, not Japan.
I watch the original Home Alone on Christmas eve every year and it has always seemed to me that the McAlisters were pretty down to earth for obviously well-off folks.
yeah the setup/execution of that joke is that Kevin tips the same guy less than a dollar when he's alone because he doesn't understand tipping and is also working around the audio clip from the movie.
Tipping becomes a running gag in Home Alone 2 with the Rob Schneider character as well.
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I disagree with a lot of conclusions in that Defunctland video, but it's still pretty entertaining and doesn't fall into the standard youtuber trap of "increased production values = dumb, unrelated skits"
I'm curious what specific conclusions you disagree with. Not that I have a stake in it, I'm just curious how the thesis holds up to criticism.
Well, there's at one point when he brings up the shoes and if you charge 200 dollars for person X who really wants the shoes and 30 dollars for person Y, this only passes muster if person X is unaware of person Y. Companies tend to get around this by re-labeling products and services that are either essentially the same thing or literally the same thing.
Further, having more control over your situation often leads people to be happier. If they feel like they have chosen their fate they tend to be more satisfied than those who get it by happenstance.
Finally, he points out the disparity between people who do a lot of research and people who don't, saying there is more equity in the straight up lines than the newer fastpass system. He's not accounting into the fact that there is no option for the people at the park to pre-plan their day (and have control of it) outside of a fastpass type system.
One of his conclusions is that no fastpass system is better than the current system, and I don't think there is enough evidence presented to convince me of that.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
like all metaphor, the shoes thing sort of doesn't make sense if you think about it too much, but if you think about it in terms of time wrt theme parks, which is what he's actually trying to say, it does make sense.
the once in a lifetime trip person who doesn't understand the system is going to ride the ride no matter how much time it takes, and the person who understands the system doesn't really care, but can exploit said system to ride without much time investment at all, so they might as well.
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like all metaphor, the shoes thing sort of doesn't make sense if you think about it too much, but if you think about it in terms of time wrt theme parks, which is what he's actually trying to say, it does make sense.
the once in a lifetime trip person who doesn't understand the system is going to ride the ride no matter how much time it takes, and the person who understands the system doesn't really care, but can exploit said system to ride without much time investment at all, so they might as well.
I am speaking as a once in a lifetime person who went after doing a lot of research with my family about how we should proceed. It was part and parcel of our enjoyment of the experience, and we most certainly couldn't afford to stay at the resort itself to get extra benefits.
EDIT: Again, I enjoyed the video. I just disagree with some of his methods for reaching his conclusion, and I think some was covered by the fast moving text which I didn't pause the video to read.
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It's always good to learn this stuff, if one doesn't already know. Bonus, if they don't currently have the wish that a group of people had starved/frozen to death, this is a good way to achieve that feeling.
like all metaphor, the shoes thing sort of doesn't make sense if you think about it too much, but if you think about it in terms of time wrt theme parks, which is what he's actually trying to say, it does make sense.
the once in a lifetime trip person who doesn't understand the system is going to ride the ride no matter how much time it takes, and the person who understands the system doesn't really care, but can exploit said system to ride without much time investment at all, so they might as well.
I am speaking as a once in a lifetime person who went after doing a lot of research with my family about how we should proceed. It was part and parcel of our enjoyment of the experience, and we most certainly couldn't afford to stay at the resort itself to get extra benefits.
Kevin does mention that the limited FastPass system (as implemented in Disneyland) is a decent compromise that doesn't skew the experience as hard in favor of the people who know the system as FastPlass+ currently does.
Which, personally, is what I would prefer.
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like all metaphor, the shoes thing sort of doesn't make sense if you think about it too much, but if you think about it in terms of time wrt theme parks, which is what he's actually trying to say, it does make sense.
the once in a lifetime trip person who doesn't understand the system is going to ride the ride no matter how much time it takes, and the person who understands the system doesn't really care, but can exploit said system to ride without much time investment at all, so they might as well.
I am speaking as a once in a lifetime person who went after doing a lot of research with my family about how we should proceed. It was part and parcel of our enjoyment of the experience, and we most certainly couldn't afford to stay at the resort itself to get extra benefits.
Kevin does mention that the limited FastPass system (as implemented in Disneyland) is a decent compromise that doesn't skew the experience as hard in favor of the people who know the system as FastPlass+ currently does.
Which, personally, is what I would prefer.
Right, I don't disagree that a limited FastPass system is better than the current system. I disagree that no system is better than the current system.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
like all metaphor, the shoes thing sort of doesn't make sense if you think about it too much, but if you think about it in terms of time wrt theme parks, which is what he's actually trying to say, it does make sense.
the once in a lifetime trip person who doesn't understand the system is going to ride the ride no matter how much time it takes, and the person who understands the system doesn't really care, but can exploit said system to ride without much time investment at all, so they might as well.
I am speaking as a once in a lifetime person who went after doing a lot of research with my family about how we should proceed. It was part and parcel of our enjoyment of the experience, and we most certainly couldn't afford to stay at the resort itself to get extra benefits.
Kevin does mention that the limited FastPass system (as implemented in Disneyland) is a decent compromise that doesn't skew the experience as hard in favor of the people who know the system as FastPlass+ currently does.
Which, personally, is what I would prefer.
Right, I don't disagree that a limited FastPass system is better than the current system. I disagree that no system is better than the current system.
I didn't get that as the conclusion though. Like.. he has tons of evidence that introducing the fastpass system, as originally intended (only for some rides and where it is completely free and available to all) works really well. It's when it got expanded, as well as when knowledge of the system got abused, that things broke down.
And again, it comes back to the class argument in the video. They are artificially adding strata as soon as you introduce a "pay" mechanic into the process. Which is why the original WDW moved away from the ticket book idea.
But that's nitpicking, from my angle. Obviously you can't paint everything with the same brush, and I frankly remember having one of those 1994 unofficial guides to Walt Disney World in the leadup to my once in a lifetime trip.
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Regardless, I think the absolute best part of the video was this:
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Non-Sequitur Tangent which is funny in its unexpectedness
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Jinx you owe me a coke.
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so not a reference to something? It felt like a reference I didn't know
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so not a reference to something? It felt like a reference I didn't know
Well you see when two people say the same thing at the same time, one of them can call a jinx, and what the jinx does varies based on your location. In the South where I grew up, it was over a matter of who said jinx first and the loser would have to buy the winner a coke.
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They both made a post at almost the exact same time that say the same thing
BahamutZERO is playing dumb, as a joke.
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My explanation was also a form of non-sequitur.
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I have never been to any Disney theme park and that video just made it even more likely I will never go.
Like, unless someone pays for it all for me, then I'd go. But paying for it and dealing with all those people? No thank you.
I have never been to any Disney theme park and that video just made it even more likely I will never go.
Like, unless someone pays for it all for me, then I'd go. But paying for it and dealing with all those people? No thank you.
I went as a freshman in highschool and I had a lot of fun, but yea, an actual theme park like 6 flags is where I would rather go these days. Gimme all the roller coasters.
I will say though, that space mountain is an excellent ride. It is so supremely claustrophobic that for a fairly tame roller coaster it does a good job of keeping the thrill up. You never know where you are and the freakin' girders holding up the ride just come out of nowhere. My buddy who I went with was 6'1 and just hunkered in his seat the whole time.
Splash mountain was really good too. We were in a fairly heavily loaded log and were in the back so when we went over the drop we got a bit of airtime.
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After watching that excellent video...
I did go to animal kingdom around the turn of the century, it was too hot and humid out and there was like no shade at all even little teen me thought I might die. But at least my mom's cousin got us in free.
Universal studios was more fun on the same trip.
I'm curious what specific conclusions you disagree with. Not that I have a stake in it, I'm just curious how the thesis holds up to criticism.
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yeah the setup/execution of that joke is that Kevin tips the same guy less than a dollar when he's alone because he doesn't understand tipping and is also working around the audio clip from the movie.
Tipping becomes a running gag in Home Alone 2 with the Rob Schneider character as well.
Well, there's at one point when he brings up the shoes and if you charge 200 dollars for person X who really wants the shoes and 30 dollars for person Y, this only passes muster if person X is unaware of person Y. Companies tend to get around this by re-labeling products and services that are either essentially the same thing or literally the same thing.
Further, having more control over your situation often leads people to be happier. If they feel like they have chosen their fate they tend to be more satisfied than those who get it by happenstance.
Finally, he points out the disparity between people who do a lot of research and people who don't, saying there is more equity in the straight up lines than the newer fastpass system. He's not accounting into the fact that there is no option for the people at the park to pre-plan their day (and have control of it) outside of a fastpass type system.
One of his conclusions is that no fastpass system is better than the current system, and I don't think there is enough evidence presented to convince me of that.
the once in a lifetime trip person who doesn't understand the system is going to ride the ride no matter how much time it takes, and the person who understands the system doesn't really care, but can exploit said system to ride without much time investment at all, so they might as well.
I am speaking as a once in a lifetime person who went after doing a lot of research with my family about how we should proceed. It was part and parcel of our enjoyment of the experience, and we most certainly couldn't afford to stay at the resort itself to get extra benefits.
EDIT: Again, I enjoyed the video. I just disagree with some of his methods for reaching his conclusion, and I think some was covered by the fast moving text which I didn't pause the video to read.
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Kevin does mention that the limited FastPass system (as implemented in Disneyland) is a decent compromise that doesn't skew the experience as hard in favor of the people who know the system as FastPlass+ currently does.
Which, personally, is what I would prefer.
Right, I don't disagree that a limited FastPass system is better than the current system. I disagree that no system is better than the current system.
I didn't get that as the conclusion though. Like.. he has tons of evidence that introducing the fastpass system, as originally intended (only for some rides and where it is completely free and available to all) works really well. It's when it got expanded, as well as when knowledge of the system got abused, that things broke down.
And again, it comes back to the class argument in the video. They are artificially adding strata as soon as you introduce a "pay" mechanic into the process. Which is why the original WDW moved away from the ticket book idea.
But that's nitpicking, from my angle. Obviously you can't paint everything with the same brush, and I frankly remember having one of those 1994 unofficial guides to Walt Disney World in the leadup to my once in a lifetime trip.
Laughed so hard I needed to pause the video.
It's a non-sequitur.
Non-Sequitur Tangent which is funny in its unexpectedness
Well you see when two people say the same thing at the same time, one of them can call a jinx, and what the jinx does varies based on your location. In the South where I grew up, it was over a matter of who said jinx first and the loser would have to buy the winner a coke.
BahamutZERO is playing dumb, as a joke.
Like, unless someone pays for it all for me, then I'd go. But paying for it and dealing with all those people? No thank you.
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Too bad the negative emotions were inside you all along!
while I do do this too much, in this case I just got very confused
I went as a freshman in highschool and I had a lot of fun, but yea, an actual theme park like 6 flags is where I would rather go these days. Gimme all the roller coasters.
I will say though, that space mountain is an excellent ride. It is so supremely claustrophobic that for a fairly tame roller coaster it does a good job of keeping the thrill up. You never know where you are and the freakin' girders holding up the ride just come out of nowhere. My buddy who I went with was 6'1 and just hunkered in his seat the whole time.
Splash mountain was really good too. We were in a fairly heavily loaded log and were in the back so when we went over the drop we got a bit of airtime.
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