Wouldn't even be hard.
Just bet on the 2016 presidential election.
Oh for sure, but I turned 18 in 2003, so I don't really want to wait that long. I'd have to finish high school out of obligation, but college would be radically different. I doubt I'd graduate.
"i'll only do it if you solve climate change" or some other hippy nonsense
I do wonder how many time travellers get whacked by bookkeepers this way though.
Just a bet on something unlikely spread across multiple vendors for a large amount would be suspect, for either this scenario or just having rigged the bet.
"i'll only do it if you solve climate change" or some other hippy nonsense
Which version of time travel are we talking about? If time loop, sure, it's not like I can change anything if I went, and neither can you. I would have no interest in reliving my life if unable to change anything. If we're talking Back to the Future rules, of course, forget it. Odds are you'll do something to erase me from history, no matter how rich I ended up. Multiverse rules is fine, but in that case, I'm much better off using the ticket myself and amassing my own fortune AND changing history.
And I'm old enough that 18 means 1997. More than enough time to get stinking rich and influence the Bush/Gore election. Change that and you can potentially change everything. No 9/11, no Afghan or Iraq wars, an ideal response to Katrina, and most importantly from a national standpoint, a completely different Supreme Court. That can mean no Citizens United, no Hobby Lobby, no any of the myriad decisions over the last two decades.
You know what? Nanowrimo's cancelled on account of the world is stupid.
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Given the ticket shifts you back into yourself on your 18th birthday, I'd never use it because the uncertainty around where I'd be in life without following the exact path I did, warts and all, is anxiety inducing.
This is absolutely my answer, but I would have to get enough money out of the transaction to not spend the rest of my life second guessing.
Straight up, if I got sent back into my 18 year old self I would IMMEDIATELY make changes that would annihilate the path I ended up on. I have zero doubt of this. From day one I would be in uncharted territory in my personal life. I could make money with some smart investments, but I would spend the rest of my life wondering if I could have done more, or wondering if my first life could have been better. This life is pretty good. With a bunch of money I would be happy and content I think.
This is a trick. Nearly all of my dearest friends I acquired in my 20's and there's basically no way to guarantee that my present-minded but younger self wouldn't fuck up solidifying those friendships -- how would you even get anyone to believe you or if not that, hope to act naturally enough or remember the chance events, that led those people to like you to begin with.
Edit: Hence the firesale price, help yourself I don't want to have it and I would probably pay to give away the ticket.
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I'm glad the ticket would only take me back to 2005 because...
...you know. Still I would be morally obliged to do something about Trump and COVID. I think the strategy there would be to build enough wealth to bankroll a more popular more progressive President, members of congress and probably as many foreign politicians as dark money donations make possible. Then really pressure them to keep an eye stopping the pandemic as soon as it pops up.
I think fair market value is at least enough to retire comfortably. I met my true love around 18 so it’s not a stretch to use it myself, but I would have to live an entire extra decade and it seems like a pain.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
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I’d make sure to invent the slanket, first thing.
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Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
I was thinking about what I would do if I went back to 18 (good, crunchy thought food) and realized I'd have to quit smoking and get in shape AGAIN, which would suck.
At age 18 my body was a complete fucking disaster and my mind was sharply honed, and now the opposite is true, so it would be a very difficult time.
On the other hand, seeing my college friends again back in the day would be rad.
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RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
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I'd take any amount over 50k. Enough to pay off my credit cards and finance some luxury and adventure.
But no way I would use the ticket. Without some pretty substantial superpowers I won't be saving the world and I think the guilt would crush me. Also the one person I feel certain I could save through time travel died when I was fifteen, so no dice.
oh also if I did go back to 18, I literally would be sent back to just a few months before 9/11, just enough time to be able to try and stop it but probably not enough time to succeed
so yeah having to live through that whole era again is definitely a big one for the 'no fucking way' column
"i'll only do it if you solve climate change" or some other hippy nonsense
18 for me would be 2007, so that's already too late to stop 9/11, Patriot Act, and Bush in general. It's right before Obama though, and may be soon enough to jump on various tech stocks to invest in for guaranteed massive gains. I could then try to make use of the eight years of Obama to build up progressives a bit more, give money to flip a few more seats if possible so they're not such edge cases, and get ready to do whatever is necessary to ensure Trump is not on the ballot for 2016 and in fact never gets on the political stage in the first place to potentially influence copycats.
But other than that I don't think there's much I could feasibly do. It's after the biggest events have already happened and too close to the present. Maybe something with the Supreme Court or its nominations?
I'm sorry, I understand how frustrating it can be to create one of these hypotheticals and have everyone poke holes in the premise instead of engaging with the concepts it's intended to provoke thought about, but in this case I really don't feel I can answer without getting into issues I don't feel like committing to public memory, so, please excuse my poking at the premise rather than the underlying philosophical issues.
The fact that access to the machine is granted by way of a "ticket" suggests a commodification of the process that results in non-trivial use by other people. In light of that, can we really trust that knowledge of our own individual future has any utility in the past? How many people have to time travel and make huge incongruous bets on specific stocks before the market is sufficiently disrupted such that the original bet doesn't work?
That line of thought led me in an entirely different direction: I feel like this premise has the potential to serve as the background for a great and/or awful Hollywood rom-com. A (wo)man in a loveless marriage decides to accept a ticket through the time machine to start over from when they were 18, avoiding all the decisions that led them into their current state. But, hilariously, the (wo)man to whom they're married had the exact same idea (or was visited by the same time gremlin with the same offer) and over the course of the plot the two of them realize the hilarious fact that they're both rewriting history, talk through their situation, live through some of the consequences of their new decisions, and wind up back together in the end because it's a great and/or awful Hollywood rom-com.
My favorite musical instrument is the air-raid siren.
I'm sorry, I understand how frustrating it can be to create one of these hypotheticals and have everyone poke holes in the premise instead of engaging with the concepts it's intended to provoke thought about, but in this case I really don't feel I can answer without getting into issues I don't feel like committing to public memory, so, please excuse my poking at the premise rather than the underlying philosophical issues.
The fact that access to the machine is granted by way of a "ticket" suggests a commodification of the process that results in non-trivial use by other people. In light of that, can we really trust that knowledge of our own individual future has any utility in the past? How many people have to time travel and make huge incongruous bets on specific stocks before the market is sufficiently disrupted such that the original bet doesn't work?
That line of thought led me in an entirely different direction: I feel like this premise has the potential to serve as the background for a great and/or awful Hollywood rom-com. A (wo)man in a loveless marriage decides to accept a ticket through the time machine to start over from when they were 18, avoiding all the decisions that led them into their current state. But, hilariously, the (wo)man to whom they're married had the exact same idea (or was visited by the same time gremlin with the same offer) and over the course of the plot the two of them realize the hilarious fact that they're both rewriting history, talk through their situation, live through some of the consequences of their new decisions, and wind up back together in the end because it's a great and/or awful Hollywood rom-com.
Yeah, that's a premise with a lot of potential that then gets shafted in the interest of making a buck by Hollywood. A good sci-fi writer could have some real fun with it though.
Andy JoeWe claim the land for the highlord!The AdirondacksRegistered Userregular
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2004...if I skipped college, got a job straight out of high school, and plowed as much as I could into shorting mortgage-backed securities right before the financial crisis that would probably get me a lot of money, but I don't think in the tens of millions of dollars range.
given the random chance that a child represents, both in the egg that is fertilized and how it is fertilized, there's no way after three kids that I would do this. I wouldn't sell it for less than 10 million dollars, though.
There's things in my life I would kill to change, but I wouldn't kill them to change it.
I'm sorry, I understand how frustrating it can be to create one of these hypotheticals and have everyone poke holes in the premise instead of engaging with the concepts it's intended to provoke thought about, but in this case I really don't feel I can answer without getting into issues I don't feel like committing to public memory, so, please excuse my poking at the premise rather than the underlying philosophical issues.
The fact that access to the machine is granted by way of a "ticket" suggests a commodification of the process that results in non-trivial use by other people. In light of that, can we really trust that knowledge of our own individual future has any utility in the past? How many people have to time travel and make huge incongruous bets on specific stocks before the market is sufficiently disrupted such that the original bet doesn't work?
That line of thought led me in an entirely different direction: I feel like this premise has the potential to serve as the background for a great and/or awful Hollywood rom-com. A (wo)man in a loveless marriage decides to accept a ticket through the time machine to start over from when they were 18, avoiding all the decisions that led them into their current state. But, hilariously, the (wo)man to whom they're married had the exact same idea (or was visited by the same time gremlin with the same offer) and over the course of the plot the two of them realize the hilarious fact that they're both rewriting history, talk through their situation, live through some of the consequences of their new decisions, and wind up back together in the end because it's a great and/or awful Hollywood rom-com.
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no twilight zone nonsense and ALSO no gift of the magi nonsense
The ticket was given to you by a man who looks like John de Lancie and the machine can only ever be used once, in any timeline :P
That is the question as I don't remember my 18th birthday I do remember about that time how the senior counselor in her words Saw to it I would not graduate as i do remember telling her well F you too and walking out of that room
If I am given all the knowledge and life experience on my 18th birthday I am still sadly railroaded into the Corps as I have no money and a no win future ahead of me . I still remember the job I worked then and getting the grand paychecks of 240ish a week because minimum wage just went up to $4.25
It is the dawn of the Dot com boom so I can easily navigate that knowing who lives and dies in that. There are tons of things that I was given two or more bad choices on and I thinking I picked the better one I could change
But I know I would not be doomed to work in the hell known to men.
I think you need to sell me on selling you the ticket.
I mean, being able travel back in time, I could make money. I turned 18 in 1998, so I'd have time to build up a stock portfolio, jump on bitcoin when everyone was laughing at it, then dump it when it goes high enough to set me up for life. I'd be able to alter my personal habits to avoid a number of health issues I'm now living with, maybe make some different decisions in the relationship department.
Maybe with the money I could be a less terrible Elon Musk, buying inventions up and marketing them as my own, except I could focus on stuff that will help the world instead of mail order flamethrowers or boring machines or whatever.
So, really, money isn't going to be sufficient incentive for you to get my ticket.
What are you going to do with a second chance to go back to make the world better?
Also, am I able to bring anything back with me? A thumb drive, a college ruled spiral notebook? Or is it just whatever I can remember?
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"i'll only do it if you solve climate change" or some other hippy nonsense
I think you need to sell me on selling you the ticket.
I mean, being able travel back in time, I could make money. I turned 18 in 1998, so I'd have time to build up a stock portfolio, jump on bitcoin when everyone was laughing at it, then dump it when it goes high enough to set me up for life. I'd be able to alter my personal habits to avoid a number of health issues I'm now living with, maybe make some different decisions in the relationship department.
Maybe with the money I could be a less terrible Elon Musk, buying inventions up and marketing them as my own, except I could focus on stuff that will help the world instead of mail order flamethrowers or boring machines or whatever.
So, really, money isn't going to be sufficient incentive for you to get my ticket.
What are you going to do with a second chance to go back to make the world better?
Also, am I able to bring anything back with me? A thumb drive, a college ruled spiral notebook? Or is it just whatever I can remember?
You’re quantum leaping into your 18-year old self, there’s no physical travel, and thus no way to bring anything. Best bet is to cram hard and then start writing things down the moment you arrive
"i'll only do it if you solve climate change" or some other hippy nonsense
If you're gonna ditch me in this shit ass timeline, you damn well better leave it better off.
Otherwise, the ability to go back, improve my lot in life via investment and/or early diagnosis treatment of things I didn't think I was dealing with is incalculable and while it might affect some relationships I have, the ones that would be worth it to me I'd work to preserve and cultivate and with the added money, be able to alleviate issues and make them less stressful. Wad of cash now could help, but the time is what's really valuable.
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DepressperadoI just wanted to see you laughingin the pizza rainRegistered Userregular
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this is, honestly though, my dream
back to 18 and oh my god I have an opportunity to not fuck my life up because of spite and shitheadery
also shortly after I turned 18 I went to a party and this girl I had a secret love for was there, she was incredible.
she asked me to dance and I was too bashful/sober so I didn't, and she lost interest and moved on and I, for real, think about that moment like once a week and hate myself.
edit: that party was also where I met a coke dealer who referred to me as a "cool cat" and showed me where the chinese food place that sold 40s was at so it wasn't a total loss
Even if after you're shunted back to your 18 year old body you're given the ability to magically use the internet from the time you came from in your brain and you pause time while using it so you can do so in response to a question without needing to worry about looking awkward as you look up the answer, I still wouldn't use the ticket. It'd still remain next to impossible to retain the good things that happened to me while at the same time using that infinite knowledge to change my life (and hopefully the world as a whole) for the better. Even if that magical internet included a second-by-second transcript of my life, as soon as I deviated from it and caused a significant enough change, everything would be off the rails and I'd be flying by the seat of my pants again.
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
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I would use the ticket and would not sell it for less than a hundred million, that'd be enough to secure not just my life but the lives of my immediate children and the lives of all my loved ones as well as a bunch of strangers through charity or whatever
But the ability to go back in time and not even change anything but just getting more time to enjoy my youth and stuff? Hell yeah man no downsides! Even going through the hard stuff again would be easy, knowing what was on the other side
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Just bet on the 2016 presidential election.
Oh for sure, but I turned 18 in 2003, so I don't really want to wait that long. I'd have to finish high school out of obligation, but college would be radically different. I doubt I'd graduate.
Just a bet on something unlikely spread across multiple vendors for a large amount would be suspect, for either this scenario or just having rigged the bet.
And I'm old enough that 18 means 1997. More than enough time to get stinking rich and influence the Bush/Gore election. Change that and you can potentially change everything. No 9/11, no Afghan or Iraq wars, an ideal response to Katrina, and most importantly from a national standpoint, a completely different Supreme Court. That can mean no Citizens United, no Hobby Lobby, no any of the myriad decisions over the last two decades.
This is absolutely my answer, but I would have to get enough money out of the transaction to not spend the rest of my life second guessing.
Straight up, if I got sent back into my 18 year old self I would IMMEDIATELY make changes that would annihilate the path I ended up on. I have zero doubt of this. From day one I would be in uncharted territory in my personal life. I could make money with some smart investments, but I would spend the rest of my life wondering if I could have done more, or wondering if my first life could have been better. This life is pretty good. With a bunch of money I would be happy and content I think.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
Edit: Hence the firesale price, help yourself I don't want to have it and I would probably pay to give away the ticket.
...you know. Still I would be morally obliged to do something about Trump and COVID. I think the strategy there would be to build enough wealth to bankroll a more popular more progressive President, members of congress and probably as many foreign politicians as dark money donations make possible. Then really pressure them to keep an eye stopping the pandemic as soon as it pops up.
I was thinking about what I would do if I went back to 18 (good, crunchy thought food) and realized I'd have to quit smoking and get in shape AGAIN, which would suck.
At age 18 my body was a complete fucking disaster and my mind was sharply honed, and now the opposite is true, so it would be a very difficult time.
On the other hand, seeing my college friends again back in the day would be rad.
But no way I would use the ticket. Without some pretty substantial superpowers I won't be saving the world and I think the guilt would crush me. Also the one person I feel certain I could save through time travel died when I was fifteen, so no dice.
But that's also just, so much work
But like, Bitcoin millionaire and brain spider diagnosis waaay earlier.
so yeah having to live through that whole era again is definitely a big one for the 'no fucking way' column
That's why I picked the non-monetary option!
But other than that I don't think there's much I could feasibly do. It's after the biggest events have already happened and too close to the present. Maybe something with the Supreme Court or its nominations?
The fact that access to the machine is granted by way of a "ticket" suggests a commodification of the process that results in non-trivial use by other people. In light of that, can we really trust that knowledge of our own individual future has any utility in the past? How many people have to time travel and make huge incongruous bets on specific stocks before the market is sufficiently disrupted such that the original bet doesn't work?
That line of thought led me in an entirely different direction: I feel like this premise has the potential to serve as the background for a great and/or awful Hollywood rom-com. A (wo)man in a loveless marriage decides to accept a ticket through the time machine to start over from when they were 18, avoiding all the decisions that led them into their current state. But, hilariously, the (wo)man to whom they're married had the exact same idea (or was visited by the same time gremlin with the same offer) and over the course of the plot the two of them realize the hilarious fact that they're both rewriting history, talk through their situation, live through some of the consequences of their new decisions, and wind up back together in the end because it's a great and/or awful Hollywood rom-com.
Yeah, that's a premise with a lot of potential that then gets shafted in the interest of making a buck by Hollywood. A good sci-fi writer could have some real fun with it though.
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no twilight zone nonsense and ALSO no gift of the magi nonsense
The ticket was given to you by a man who looks like John de Lancie and the machine can only ever be used once, in any timeline :P
I'm gone, you're stuck.
I'm going to live forever.
We are eternal now.
If I am given all the knowledge and life experience on my 18th birthday I am still sadly railroaded into the Corps as I have no money and a no win future ahead of me . I still remember the job I worked then and getting the grand paychecks of 240ish a week because minimum wage just went up to $4.25
It is the dawn of the Dot com boom so I can easily navigate that knowing who lives and dies in that. There are tons of things that I was given two or more bad choices on and I thinking I picked the better one I could change
But I know I would not be doomed to work in the hell known to men.
I mean, being able travel back in time, I could make money. I turned 18 in 1998, so I'd have time to build up a stock portfolio, jump on bitcoin when everyone was laughing at it, then dump it when it goes high enough to set me up for life. I'd be able to alter my personal habits to avoid a number of health issues I'm now living with, maybe make some different decisions in the relationship department.
Maybe with the money I could be a less terrible Elon Musk, buying inventions up and marketing them as my own, except I could focus on stuff that will help the world instead of mail order flamethrowers or boring machines or whatever.
So, really, money isn't going to be sufficient incentive for you to get my ticket.
What are you going to do with a second chance to go back to make the world better?
Also, am I able to bring anything back with me? A thumb drive, a college ruled spiral notebook? Or is it just whatever I can remember?
You’re quantum leaping into your 18-year old self, there’s no physical travel, and thus no way to bring anything. Best bet is to cram hard and then start writing things down the moment you arrive
Otherwise, the ability to go back, improve my lot in life via investment and/or early diagnosis treatment of things I didn't think I was dealing with is incalculable and while it might affect some relationships I have, the ones that would be worth it to me I'd work to preserve and cultivate and with the added money, be able to alleviate issues and make them less stressful. Wad of cash now could help, but the time is what's really valuable.
back to 18 and oh my god I have an opportunity to not fuck my life up because of spite and shitheadery
also shortly after I turned 18 I went to a party and this girl I had a secret love for was there, she was incredible.
she asked me to dance and I was too bashful/sober so I didn't, and she lost interest and moved on and I, for real, think about that moment like once a week and hate myself.
edit: that party was also where I met a coke dealer who referred to me as a "cool cat" and showed me where the chinese food place that sold 40s was at so it wasn't a total loss
But the ability to go back in time and not even change anything but just getting more time to enjoy my youth and stuff? Hell yeah man no downsides! Even going through the hard stuff again would be easy, knowing what was on the other side
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Because you'd have no idea how changing things could impact the future. What if you make it worse? Better to do nothing.
Except making money on the stock market. That's probably fine.