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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    expendable wrote: »
    One day I'll be able to play in a TTRPG as a Garak inspired character.

    I tend to make characters that are similar to Garak when I do RPGs anyway, before I knew Garak's deal.

    Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
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    Librarian's ghostLibrarian's ghost Librarian, Ghostbuster, and TimSpork Registered User regular
    I'm going to be honest. I've never been able to read a stacked bar graph. My mind is incapable of understanding how it works.

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Protip for interviewing: Don't end it by asking me how you did. That's a real putting me on the spot move, and if I was already a bit unsure, now I'm unsure how to tell you that too and woof bud. Feel free to solicit feedback after acceptance or rejection, that's good and healthy. But in the moment is a lot dude.

    I've almost always been asked that, and I always respond:

    "Good. We'll get back to you within a week with our decision."

    I was too taken aback to be that quick sadly. I also hesitate to say "good" when maybe it wasn't. I want to give helpful feedback but that aint the time ;_;

    tbf "ask about it after the interview" is also kind of crap because the overwhelming majority of jobs do not give any feedback beyond, "sorry no" if they even tell you that much. I've never actually gotten a formal rejection email from the actual hiring manager, and that includes when I applied for internal promotions. They just are too busy to care about someone they didn't hire.

    So it's tricky either way, is I guess what I'm saying.

    Twitter! | Dilige, et quod vis fac
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    FlarneFlarne Registered User regular
    I once got a rejection letter two years after applying for a job

    Took me a while to remember what it was even about

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    QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    Tox wrote: »
    Heffling wrote: »
    Protip for interviewing: Don't end it by asking me how you did. That's a real putting me on the spot move, and if I was already a bit unsure, now I'm unsure how to tell you that too and woof bud. Feel free to solicit feedback after acceptance or rejection, that's good and healthy. But in the moment is a lot dude.

    I've almost always been asked that, and I always respond:

    "Good. We'll get back to you within a week with our decision."

    I was too taken aback to be that quick sadly. I also hesitate to say "good" when maybe it wasn't. I want to give helpful feedback but that aint the time ;_;

    tbf "ask about it after the interview" is also kind of crap because the overwhelming majority of jobs do not give any feedback beyond, "sorry no" if they even tell you that much. I've never actually gotten a formal rejection email from the actual hiring manager, and that includes when I applied for internal promotions. They just are too busy to care about someone they didn't hire.

    So it's tricky either way, is I guess what I'm saying.

    Yeah but in that case you weren't getting the feedback anyway. And I understand a lot of HR has the policy of "no talking" just to avoid any liability around discrimination. And it's right and good to want feedback to improve. But putting the interviewer on the spot in that way is...a bold power play, and if they love you, it'll be great, but short of that it's probably shooting yourself in the foot as far as getting that job. Interviewing sucks and I'm not defending the opacity of the process.

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    DixonDixon Screwed...possibly doomed CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Not sure if anyone else felt the disturbance in the force...I'm on a meeting where someone said 'Democratize the Data' which meant show the daily data on screens around the office.

    Dixon on
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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    I got Dax.

    But at least I got the cool Dax.

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    LeperMessiahLeperMessiah Registered User regular
    I think I need to start looking for a new job, I am burning out. How have full time work from home jobs worked out for you all that have them?

    Skills, not sure if job hunting is appropriate for this thread?
    I have been in IT since 1999, IT manager at 2 financial institutions and I just want something in not as critical of a role. I have administered Windows servers since NT 4.0, Redhat Linux server up to Fedora core 3 (long time ago I know). Mostly windows workstations since Win 3.11 (yay for mostly working WS networking). Basic scripting in Python, Perl, PowerShell, small Foxpro programs. eCommerce programming, Ariba, Oracle and other smaller eCommerce solutions/integrations. Firewalls, switches, cloud solutions, basically everything a one person IT shop in a business would need you learn, but really can't master.

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    ToxTox I kill threads he/himRegistered User regular
    I always like to end with, "what's our next steps?" As it's open enough for them to give feedback either openly or subtly, it's a legitimate question, and throwing in the "we" feels like I'm doing some weird psych thing

    Twitter! | Dilige, et quod vis fac
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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Headpussy McLizardface

    Wow, speciest much?

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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    Heffling wrote: »
    Protip for interviewing: Don't end it by asking me how you did. That's a real putting me on the spot move, and if I was already a bit unsure, now I'm unsure how to tell you that too and woof bud. Feel free to solicit feedback after acceptance or rejection, that's good and healthy. But in the moment is a lot dude.

    I've almost always been asked that, and I always respond:

    "Good. We'll get back to you within a week with our decision."

    I was too taken aback to be that quick sadly. I also hesitate to say "good" when maybe it wasn't. I want to give helpful feedback but that aint the time ;_;

    Good is always a nice, neutral, non-contentious response. I use it even when it's not true.

    How was your day? Good.
    How is work? Good.

    It's much better than spending the next hour+ telling them about all the shit I wrote up in the OP about.

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    Dixon wrote: »
    Not sure if anyone else felt the disturbance in the force...I'm on a meeting where someone said 'Democratize the Data' which meant show the daily data on screens around the office.

    So that was what that was. It kinda felt like someone brought a salami sandwich with them on the train.

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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    I think I need to start looking for a new job, I am burning out. How have full time work from home jobs worked out for you all that have them?

    Skills, not sure if job hunting is appropriate for this thread?
    I have been in IT since 1999, IT manager at 2 financial institutions and I just want something in not as critical of a role. I have administered Windows servers since NT 4.0, Redhat Linux server up to Fedora core 3 (long time ago I know). Mostly windows workstations since Win 3.11 (yay for mostly working WS networking). Basic scripting in Python, Perl, PowerShell, small Foxpro programs. eCommerce programming, Ariba, Oracle and other smaller eCommerce solutions/integrations. Firewalls, switches, cloud solutions, basically everything a one person IT shop in a business would need you learn, but really can't master.

    I have updated the thread title to make it clear that this is not only acceptable, but encouraged. Get paid!

    There's a lot of IT/CS/Programmer types here who can help you out.

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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    What-all is this DS9 quiz everyone's doing and which of Social Security Number, Mother's Maiden Name, and Best Childhood Friend do I need to give up to find out which character I am?

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    What-all is this DS9 quiz everyone's doing and which of Social Security Number, Mother's Maiden Name, and Best Childhood Friend do I need to give up to find out which character I am?

    https://uquiz.com/quiz/MJvu0E/which-ds9-character-are-you

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    You are Chief Engineer O'Brien! You are brilliant and talented, yet under-appreciated. You hope that one day your hard work and dedication will pay off... you're not bitter. Nope.

    fuck

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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Your Result:
    Worf
    You are Lieutenant Worf! Proud and stubborn, your greatest strength is your persistance in the face of adversity. Feel free to relax a little, however, not everyone is out to get you.

    I need to get that stick out of my ass.

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    LeperMessiahLeperMessiah Registered User regular
    Not sure if this is good or bad.

    Kira Nerys
    You are Commander Kira! Passionate and driven, you devote your all to the cause. However, don't forget to have fun, and to be a little more forgiving (especially towards yourself!)

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    AthenorAthenor Battle Hardened Optimist The Skies of HiigaraRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    What-all is this DS9 quiz everyone's doing and which of Social Security Number, Mother's Maiden Name, and Best Childhood Friend do I need to give up to find out which character I am?

    https://uquiz.com/quiz/MJvu0E/which-ds9-character-are-you

    I went through this and I was like "Oh, that is this character, that is this one, I can see where this leads..."

    Tried to answer as honestly as I could, thinking I might get an O'Brien or something.
    Your Result:
    Odo
    You are Constable Odo! Strict and proud, you hold yourself to a higher standard than anyone else. Be a little easier on yourself, you're doing just fine!


    .... Well, fuck, if that didn't read me like a book in more ways than one.

    He/Him | "A boat is always safest in the harbor, but that’s not why we build boats." | "If you run, you gain one. If you move forward, you gain two." - Suletta Mercury, G-Witch
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    Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    edited January 2022
    Sorce wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    Me: It's been a really long week with a lot of hours, I think I'll leave the office early on Friday

    Coworkers: Let's have a meeting at 3 PM on Friday!

    Me: Why...

    A meeting at 3pm on a friday just means you get to stop working 2 hours early

    Work wont happen in the meeting and then theres no time after to possibly start anythng so its win win

    Now the meeting is at 4PM!

    Ha

    ha

    ha

    edit: I need a new fucking job
    "Sorry, I can't attend the meeting, I'm going through a tunnel."

    I'll never forget the time (during undergrad) when the nice woman who managed the student union office diligently assembled everyone's schedules and figured out that the easiest time to schedule our weekly staff meeting was 4pm friday afternoon.

    and it was like... I know you're a postgrad and all but it isn't that we're all free on fridays at 4, we just don't write 'self-destructive substance abuse' into our schedules

    Eat it You Nasty Pig. on
    NREqxl5.jpg
    it was the smallest on the list but
    Pluto was a planet and I'll never forget
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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    This morning I have a hot cup of coffee and a hot cup of spicy broth.

    Mixing them up was inevitable. RIP me.

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    At least it wasn't the paint brush water.

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    Or mixing up the eye drops and the glue

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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Madican wrote: »
    Or mixing up the eye drops and the glue

    I live dangerously: I've got my glue stick next to my chap stick.

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    DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    You are Chief Engineer O'Brien! You are brilliant and talented, yet under-appreciated. You hope that one day your hard work and dedication will pay off... you're not bitter. Nope.

    fuck

    Another Miles! Hi five!

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Madican wrote: »
    Or mixing up the eye drops and the glue

    I live dangerously: I've got my glue stick next to my chap stick.

    You madlad

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    Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    Zonugal wrote: »
    I think if I am anyone in DS9 its Weyoun

    DS9-Weyoun.png

    I mean, you have him right there as your avatar... :rotate:

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    MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    I'm going to be honest. I've never been able to read a stacked bar graph. My mind is incapable of understanding how it works.
    I have taken so many math classes in school that I managed to get a B.S. in Math in college. And yet.. my brain just bounces off those graphs. It adds an extra layer of math to figure out the individual amounts without providing anything extra that couldn't be seen by placing the bars next to each other. It makes it a little cleaner, but more opaque.
    I didn't even learn how to read them until after I left school. They are a visualization they never formally taught me in my math classes, so I didn't pay attention until I saw them popping up in infographics randomly.

    If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing
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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    I'm going to be honest. I've never been able to read a stacked bar graph. My mind is incapable of understanding how it works.
    I have taken so many math classes in school that I managed to get a B.S. in Math in college. And yet.. my brain just bounces off those graphs. It adds an extra layer of math to figure out the individual amounts without providing anything extra that couldn't be seen by placing the bars next to each other. It makes it a little cleaner, but more opaque.
    I didn't even learn how to read them until after I left school. They are a visualization they never formally taught me in my math classes, so I didn't pay attention until I saw them popping up in infographics randomly.

    Stacked bar graphs aren't quite as bad as pie charts

    but they're pretty fucking close in my book.

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I’m Dr. Bashir because of course I am.

    Only I can see the good in Garak and he secretly is in love with because who wouldn’t be.

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    RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    I think I need to start looking for a new job, I am burning out. How have full time work from home jobs worked out for you all that have them?

    Skills, not sure if job hunting is appropriate for this thread?
    I have been in IT since 1999, IT manager at 2 financial institutions and I just want something in not as critical of a role. I have administered Windows servers since NT 4.0, Redhat Linux server up to Fedora core 3 (long time ago I know). Mostly windows workstations since Win 3.11 (yay for mostly working WS networking). Basic scripting in Python, Perl, PowerShell, small Foxpro programs. eCommerce programming, Ariba, Oracle and other smaller eCommerce solutions/integrations. Firewalls, switches, cloud solutions, basically everything a one person IT shop in a business would need you learn, but really can't master.

    @LeperMessiah I have a buddy at Tenable who can generate me a referral link if there are any positions there you are interested in.

    PSN: jfrofl
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    ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    I'm going to be honest. I've never been able to read a stacked bar graph. My mind is incapable of understanding how it works.
    I have taken so many math classes in school that I managed to get a B.S. in Math in college. And yet.. my brain just bounces off those graphs. It adds an extra layer of math to figure out the individual amounts without providing anything extra that couldn't be seen by placing the bars next to each other. It makes it a little cleaner, but more opaque.
    I didn't even learn how to read them until after I left school. They are a visualization they never formally taught me in my math classes, so I didn't pay attention until I saw them popping up in infographics randomly.

    Stacked bar graphs aren't quite as bad as pie charts

    but they're pretty fucking close in my book.

    You use a set of pie charts (or %-based stacked bar charts) when you want to show the change in composition over time. E.g., we used to get 5% of our revenue from [Demographic], and today they make up 45%.

    You use a set of stacked bar charts when you want to show the change in composition and total amount. E.g., we used to get 5% of our revenue from [Demographic] and we made $1M, and today they make up 45% of our revenue and we make $1.5M.

    You use graduated pies when you're doing a map where the overall color impression is all you care about or when you want me to smack you upside the head.

    You also need to be smart about your color usage. This is a not great chart:

    0r9bdf1osxxk.png

    This is a much more readable one:

    g5gl7hx7plxf.png

    It calls attention to the part you care about (the bottom section) while showing the progress of the whole.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    rx6kjbanwozb.png

    Your Result:
    Jadzia Dax
    You are Lt. Commander Dax! Confident, fun-loving, and competitive, you find it easy to make friends... and enemies. Watch out! Just because someone does not agree with you, does not necessarily mean that they are wrong.

    Switch: SW-7690-2320-9238Steam/PSN/Xbox: Drezdar
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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Watch out! Just because someone does not agree with you, does not necessarily mean that they are wrong.

    I don’t understand.

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Crap. The first company to contact me to set up an interview is somehow in Louisville. I am not even sure how those wires got crossed.

    ...and when you are done with that; take a folding
    chair to Creation and then suplex the Void.
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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    I'm going to be honest. I've never been able to read a stacked bar graph. My mind is incapable of understanding how it works.
    I have taken so many math classes in school that I managed to get a B.S. in Math in college. And yet.. my brain just bounces off those graphs. It adds an extra layer of math to figure out the individual amounts without providing anything extra that couldn't be seen by placing the bars next to each other. It makes it a little cleaner, but more opaque.
    I didn't even learn how to read them until after I left school. They are a visualization they never formally taught me in my math classes, so I didn't pay attention until I saw them popping up in infographics randomly.

    Stacked bar graphs aren't quite as bad as pie charts

    but they're pretty fucking close in my book.

    You use a set of pie charts (or %-based stacked bar charts) when you want to show the change in composition over time. E.g., we used to get 5% of our revenue from [Demographic], and today they make up 45%.

    You use a set of stacked bar charts when you want to show the change in composition and total amount. E.g., we used to get 5% of our revenue from [Demographic] and we made $1M, and today they make up 45% of our revenue and we make $1.5M.

    You use graduated pies when you're doing a map where the overall color impression is all you care about or when you want me to smack you upside the head.

    You also need to be smart about your color usage. This is a not great chart:

    0r9bdf1osxxk.png

    This is a much more readable one:

    g5gl7hx7plxf.png

    It calls attention to the part you care about (the bottom section) while showing the progress of the whole.

    I recommend using this custom format I created instead. I converted your data to my format.

    Hope this helps:

    qz8be7lacjbk.png

    Switch: SW-7690-2320-9238Steam/PSN/Xbox: Drezdar
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    Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt (effective against Russian warships) Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    rx6kjbanwozb.png

    Your Result:
    Jadzia Dax
    You are Lt. Commander Dax! Confident, fun-loving, and competitive, you find it easy to make friends... and enemies. Watch out! Just because someone does not agree with you, does not necessarily mean that they are wrong.

    I got Nog... wait, he's not even on the list!

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    LeperMessiahLeperMessiah Registered User regular
    Radiation wrote: »

    I have a buddy at Tenable who can generate me a referral link if there are any positions there you are interested in.

    That would be awesome, I have used Nessus before but just a bit of dabbling, also Splunk, lots of Federal and State level examinations as well.

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    expendableexpendable Silly Goose Registered User regular
    Check in meeting my manager.

    Me: I'm so very tired.

    Manager: I hear you. Also somebody on a particular team is saying they're gonna retiring. Things will shuffle when that happens but a position on the team would be open. I've already told their manager you'd be a great fit and if you did want and get the opening it'd probably double your pay.

    Me: I'm so very tired but now have hope.

    Djiem wrote: »
    Lokiamis wrote: »
    So the servers suddenly decide to cramp up during the last six percent.
    Man, the Director will really go out of his way to be a dick to L4D players.
    Steam
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    OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    I'm going to be honest. I've never been able to read a stacked bar graph. My mind is incapable of understanding how it works.
    I have taken so many math classes in school that I managed to get a B.S. in Math in college. And yet.. my brain just bounces off those graphs. It adds an extra layer of math to figure out the individual amounts without providing anything extra that couldn't be seen by placing the bars next to each other. It makes it a little cleaner, but more opaque.
    I didn't even learn how to read them until after I left school. They are a visualization they never formally taught me in my math classes, so I didn't pay attention until I saw them popping up in infographics randomly.

    Stacked bar graphs aren't quite as bad as pie charts

    but they're pretty fucking close in my book.

    You use a set of pie charts (or %-based stacked bar charts) when you want to show the change in composition over time. E.g., we used to get 5% of our revenue from [Demographic], and today they make up 45%.

    You use a set of stacked bar charts when you want to show the change in composition and total amount. E.g., we used to get 5% of our revenue from [Demographic] and we made $1M, and today they make up 45% of our revenue and we make $1.5M.

    You use graduated pies when you're doing a map where the overall color impression is all you care about or when you want me to smack you upside the head.

    You also need to be smart about your color usage. This is a not great chart:

    0r9bdf1osxxk.png

    This is a much more readable one:

    g5gl7hx7plxf.png

    It calls attention to the part you care about (the bottom section) while showing the progress of the whole.

    Looks to me like I want two lines: one of the raw value, one of the percentage, assuming what I'm after is series 3's development both on its own and vs. the rest of the population.

    Unless directly comparing multiple values, I don't see the value (haha!) of a bar graph.

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