Washington Post: Democracy Dies In Darkness. Now pay us 4 bucks a month or we won't share our light sources with you, and even then we're only going to point them at what our editors choose. Sorry pal, that's business!
tl;dr: paywalled article, couldn't read.
Children's rights are human rights.
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Washington Post: Democracy Dies In Darkness. Now pay us 4 bucks a month or we won't share our light sources with you, and even then we're only going to point them at what our editors choose. Sorry pal, that's business!
tl;dr: paywalled article, couldn't read.
Meanwhile made up bullshit about how BLM is a terrorist organization targeting white people continues to be free.
Washington Post: Democracy Dies In Darkness. Now pay us 4 bucks a month or we won't share our light sources with you, and even then we're only going to point them at what our editors choose. Sorry pal, that's business!
tl;dr: paywalled article, couldn't read.
I saw the details elsewhere, it's quick to summarize:
Some white kids hung up signs saying "Whites Only" and "Colored" at drinking fountains at the school, took some selfies, and then quickly took the signs down. The school administration has condemned the actions and is reprimanding the kids. Just a reminder about the intentional hypocrisy of the arguments against teaching about the evils of racism to school children.
Upon reflection, I remember law and order having just as many episodes underscoring law enforcement as this rusted system out of sync with its noble image and slowly grinding honor and integrity out of anyone who had some
Man I live in a blue state and I'm still seeing cop worshipping political ads. My condolences to red state primary people
There's a democratic guy running super sinophobic ads here in Ohio
Yeah, there's a reason Canadians sound more polite than Americans despite being, underneath it all, roughly as racist and colonial:
We have hate-speech laws.
Well it's less overt hate speech and more of a really annoying repetitive dog whistle about his focus on competing with China China China China like 25 times in every short ad.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
Upon reflection, I remember law and order having just as many episodes underscoring law enforcement as this rusted system out of sync with its noble image and slowly grinding honor and integrity out of anyone who had some
The CSI series was pure copoganda though.
Every spinoff
Every season
Especially Miami
Incidentally, I'm studying CSI, and every instructor I've had has made it a point to highlight how damaging CSI shows are to the field and jury perceptions. It's called the CSI Effect.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Yeah CSI is wildly unrealistic but I also don't care at all about prosecutors complaining it's harder to convict people.
The more I learn about the field, the more I feel like this is both the most scientific and easily unappreciated field in criminal justice. There is so much work involved that it's scary, but it's all based on one simple principle: just report the facts. Fingerprints, blood patterns, trajectories, and DNA don't lie. All the investigator has to do is find it and report it.
Yeah CSI is wildly unrealistic but I also don't care at all about prosecutors complaining it's harder to convict people.
Unfortunately it also gets used against defendants a lot, since 'evidence' that is hardly more than bullshit gets shown as hard proof in CSI style shows and there's little the defense can do to counter those notions.
Yeah CSI is wildly unrealistic but I also don't care at all about prosecutors complaining it's harder to convict people.
The more I learn about the field, the more I feel like this is both the most scientific and easily unappreciated field in criminal justice. There is so much work involved that it's scary, but it's all based on one simple principle: just report the facts. Fingerprints, blood patterns, trajectories, and DNA don't lie. All the investigator has to do is find it and report it.
Cops are about as scientific as people who heal with the power of crystals
Yeah CSI is wildly unrealistic but I also don't care at all about prosecutors complaining it's harder to convict people.
The more I learn about the field, the more I feel like this is both the most scientific and easily unappreciated field in criminal justice. There is so much work involved that it's scary, but it's all based on one simple principle: just report the facts. Fingerprints, blood patterns, trajectories, and DNA don't lie. All the investigator has to do is find it and report it.
Cops are about as scientific as people who heal with the power of crystals
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Yeah CSI is wildly unrealistic but I also don't care at all about prosecutors complaining it's harder to convict people.
The more I learn about the field, the more I feel like this is both the most scientific and easily unappreciated field in criminal justice. There is so much work involved that it's scary, but it's all based on one simple principle: just report the facts. Fingerprints, blood patterns, trajectories, and DNA don't lie. All the investigator has to do is find it and report it.
Cops are about as scientific as people who heal with the power of crystals
I'll add the first comment there. It's an interesting article, but I think the comment is also interesting and easily overlooked:
Allow me to fill in some gaps for those who do not have access to the history of bloodstain pattern analysis (BPA). The author left out some key elements. The "Honorary" Dr. Herbert L. MacDonell, was not the first to write about BPA. One of the first treatise written about BPA was authored by Dr. Eduard Piotrowski of the University of Krakow in Poland in the late 1800's. His work was rediscovered in the archives of the CUNY John Jay College of Criminal Justice library in the early 1980's. When Piotrowski's work was translated into English, it ironically mirrored MacDonell's first "booK" on BPA, which was published in the 1970's.
To make things crystal clear, not every expert in forensic science regarding the discipline of BPA, is a descendant of the MacDonell tree of knowledge. Not everyone is a charlatan. There are a handful of us left in the country who are actually descendants of the Dr. Paul L. Kirk tree. For those of us that remain, there is a scientific grounding that has been instilled in us through being educated in science and have advanced degrees in mathematics, chemistry, physics, and biology, not solely a 40 hr course. In addition to education, there is forensic training, research conducted, and years of real world casework experience before you are even allowed by your mentor to opine in a court of law.
A 40 hr course is simply not enough to be an expert on anything in a scientific discipline. Perhaps, Ristenbatt is right, we should just stop teaching this. The damage has been done, and it is too disreputable to repair. There are too many practitioners in the field who have a dearth of knowledge. Pouring money into research is simply not enough.
The onus will ultimately fall on the shoulders of the gatekeepers of justice and the triers of fact.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
I can't speak for the entire country, but I know down in the depths of SoFla, they usually have specialists trained in blood spatter analysis for certain situations, though we have studied it, and there are optional courses that go into it(which, hilariously enough, are 40 hours).
Though there's definitely some fascinating math involved:
Yeah CSI is wildly unrealistic but I also don't care at all about prosecutors complaining it's harder to convict people.
The more I learn about the field, the more I feel like this is both the most scientific and easily unappreciated field in criminal justice. There is so much work involved that it's scary, but it's all based on one simple principle: just report the facts. Fingerprints, blood patterns, trajectories, and DNA don't lie. All the investigator has to do is find it and report it.
Cops are about as scientific as people who heal with the power of crystals
Blood spatter analysis is just divination masquerading as forensic analysis for straight white dudes. In another decade or two it's going to stand alongside bite analysis and polygraphs as bunk science used to ruin a lot of people's lives.
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
Blood spatter analysis is just divination masquerading as forensic analysis for straight white dudes. In another decade or two it's going to stand alongside bite analysis and polygraphs as bunk science used to ruin a lot of people's lives.
I don't get the specific singling out there, my current instructor's a woman and she's an active CSI. It's not a perfect science, but you can determine a lot of things from blood spatter, especially mechanism of death and missing objects.
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Blood spatter analysis is just divination masquerading as forensic analysis for straight white dudes. In another decade or two it's going to stand alongside bite analysis and polygraphs as bunk science used to ruin a lot of people's lives.
I don't get the specific singling out there, my current instructor's a woman and she's an active CSI. It's not a perfect science, but you can determine a lot of things from blood spatter, especially mechanism of death and missing objects.
My dude, don't come into the blm thread and try to run cop apologia (and yes, csi count as cops).
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
Blood spatter analysis is just divination masquerading as forensic analysis for straight white dudes. In another decade or two it's going to stand alongside bite analysis and polygraphs as bunk science used to ruin a lot of people's lives.
I don't get the specific singling out there, my current instructor's a woman and she's an active CSI. It's not a perfect science, but you can determine a lot of things from blood spatter, especially mechanism of death and missing objects.
My dude, don't come into the blm thread and try to run cop apologia (and yes, csi count as cops).
I thought it was relevant since it's my field of study, and I disagree, but I'll back out if that's the perception.
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Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
Unfortunately, with the way our current justice system works, even good science and good scientists are being put to bad use.
But still, they can get drawn into that niche mindset, i forget the English for it, a clique? Where a collective of officers, prosecutors, judges, etc. Get into a massive circle jerk of cases and results, blurring the lines of independence?
But still, they can get drawn into that niche mindset, i forget the English for it, a clique? Where a collective of officers, prosecutors, judges, etc. Get into a massive circle jerk of cases and results, blurring the lines of independence?
As I recall, it's explicitly not allowed to hide exonerating evidence, too. Not that this stops the government, but.
cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
Yeah, by definition, a CSI has no real stake or influence on the outcome of a given case. They search for evidence, document, categorize it, submit it, write their report. It's up to a given detective or officer what happens from there.
Yeah, by definition, a CSI has no real stake or influence on the outcome of a given case. They search for evidence, document, categorize it, submit it, write their report. It's up to a given detective or officer what happens from there.
yeah I think it's important to frame it as "a CSI should have no stake or influence" because the fact is, there is constant pressure from the prosecution side to make sure the evidence helps, or at least doesn't hurt, their case
I don't know about the validity of things like blood spatter analysis and all that in a vacuum, but in the real world it will always be used to support the cops' version of what happened (or what they want to have happened) and if it absolutely can't do that or directly contradicts their account, they'll just find a way to make it disappear whenever possible
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cj iwakuraThe Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered Userregular
yeah I think it's important to frame it as "a CSI should have no stake or influence" because the fact is, there is constant pressure from the prosecution side to make sure the evidence helps, or at least doesn't hurt, their case
I don't know about the validity of things like blood spatter analysis and all that in a vacuum, but in the real world it will always be used to support the cops' version of what happened (or what they want to have happened) and if it absolutely can't do that or directly contradicts their account, they'll just find a way to make it disappear whenever possible
We actually had an medical examiner guest speaker on a case where something like that happened, and as the lead ME, her word was law; she ruled it as a homicide, and they wanted it open and shut as a suicide. The ME has to sign off on the cause of death, at least in Florida.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Again, I point to the comment I posted. The majority of people touting themselves as 'blood spatter expertrs' are clown cops who took one 40 hour course. The actual blood splatter experts have to have a hard science background and study math, biology, etc. etc. etc. in order to even begin to feel competent.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
There's a difference between saying that an actual science can be used by bad actors and fuckers to justify whatever vs everything related to that field of study means you're a chud.
No need to be a dick.
If your honestly think that Munkus or anyone in this thread is some pro cop / not all blah blah type than I dunno
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Washington Post: Democracy Dies In Darkness. Now pay us 4 bucks a month or we won't share our light sources with you, and even then we're only going to point them at what our editors choose. Sorry pal, that's business!
tl;dr: paywalled article, couldn't read.
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Meanwhile made up bullshit about how BLM is a terrorist organization targeting white people continues to be free.
I saw the details elsewhere, it's quick to summarize:
Some white kids hung up signs saying "Whites Only" and "Colored" at drinking fountains at the school, took some selfies, and then quickly took the signs down. The school administration has condemned the actions and is reprimanding the kids. Just a reminder about the intentional hypocrisy of the arguments against teaching about the evils of racism to school children.
The CSI series was pure copoganda though.
Every spinoff
Every season
Especially Miami
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
So cops get reprimanded and maybe fired when they blow up themselves and 2 more cops.
Lovely
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
There's a democratic guy running super sinophobic ads here in Ohio
Yeah, there's a reason Canadians sound more polite than Americans despite being, underneath it all, roughly as racist and colonial:
We have hate-speech laws.
Well it's less overt hate speech and more of a really annoying repetitive dog whistle about his focus on competing with China China China China like 25 times in every short ad.
Incidentally, I'm studying CSI, and every instructor I've had has made it a point to highlight how damaging CSI shows are to the field and jury perceptions. It's called the CSI Effect.
I get ads where the Governor is at a firing range and pulls a revolver out of her purse.
And ads where people gleefully announce the election was stolen, or that they were hand picked by trump.
The more I learn about the field, the more I feel like this is both the most scientific and easily unappreciated field in criminal justice. There is so much work involved that it's scary, but it's all based on one simple principle: just report the facts. Fingerprints, blood patterns, trajectories, and DNA don't lie. All the investigator has to do is find it and report it.
Unfortunately, it's the people you want convicted wearing condoms, wiping down surfaces, and spraying the room with bleach.
The bad actors never needed evidence, they made their own
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
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Unfortunately it also gets used against defendants a lot, since 'evidence' that is hardly more than bullshit gets shown as hard proof in CSI style shows and there's little the defense can do to counter those notions.
Cops are about as scientific as people who heal with the power of crystals
https://features.propublica.org/blood-spatter-analysis/herbert-macdonell-forensic-evidence-judges-and-courts/
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Nice website design
Creepy it lines up with that dilbert episode where dogbert uses bad data to create a fake medical crisis
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
I'll add the first comment there. It's an interesting article, but I think the comment is also interesting and easily overlooked:
Though there's definitely some fascinating math involved:
Worth noting that most CSIs are civilian, at least here.
I don't get the specific singling out there, my current instructor's a woman and she's an active CSI. It's not a perfect science, but you can determine a lot of things from blood spatter, especially mechanism of death and missing objects.
My dude, don't come into the blm thread and try to run cop apologia (and yes, csi count as cops).
I thought it was relevant since it's my field of study, and I disagree, but I'll back out if that's the perception.
They are not valid subject for critique as their works is ideally done from a scientifically neutral standpoint
My original post was about how CSI:BULLSHIT turned them into an army of sherlock holms
https://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=61. Hence that comic
But still, they can get drawn into that niche mindset, i forget the English for it, a clique? Where a collective of officers, prosecutors, judges, etc. Get into a massive circle jerk of cases and results, blurring the lines of independence?
http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16534
As I recall, it's explicitly not allowed to hide exonerating evidence, too. Not that this stops the government, but.
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And that's unfortunate, but it can still be put to good use as well.
Possibly, in individual cases
But in aggregate every tool of American law enforcement is used for purposes of oppression, particularly oppression of racial minorities
That's just how it is in this bitch of a country
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I don't know about the validity of things like blood spatter analysis and all that in a vacuum, but in the real world it will always be used to support the cops' version of what happened (or what they want to have happened) and if it absolutely can't do that or directly contradicts their account, they'll just find a way to make it disappear whenever possible
We actually had an medical examiner guest speaker on a case where something like that happened, and as the lead ME, her word was law; she ruled it as a homicide, and they wanted it open and shut as a suicide. The ME has to sign off on the cause of death, at least in Florida.
Hey now, divination is enjoyed by a wide variety of human beings!
Especially when it reaffirms their already-held beliefs...
No need to be a dick.
If your honestly think that Munkus or anyone in this thread is some pro cop / not all blah blah type than I dunno
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