It is actually explained somewhere in the game, but I can't recall where why this is. Something something the auto repair systems aren't working correctly and it can't cool itself normally, hence why the heat sinks are an actual vulnerability.
oh I get that, but the Corrupters and Deathbringers had the exact same vulnerability so it just felt like despite the size of the Horus, they didn't actually do anything new. As soon as they mentioned the heatsink I was just...."oh, that's it? Didn't even need a focus to see it. Sure I figured that they would have us attack individual Horus parts, but I figured it would just be more along the lines of "hey Aloy, start attacking one of the legs with your new Zenith weapon and it wouldn't be a specific glowy bit, but perhaps the entire leg would be a valid hit location, just figured it would take a boatload of HP while avoiding the tentacles or I figured maybe it wouldn't be about just outright destroying the horus, maybe just destroying specific components like the automated factories or the bio conversion systems which would be a major threat on its own regardless of the horus.
The bows and arrows didn't really do that much damage, the zenith weapon however did, which is why I was glad to see that reveal in the final trailer because if you're going to justify one person taking down a Horus, you're going to need Brick Tamland's gun from the future.
It is actually explained somewhere in the game, but I can't recall where why this is. Something something the auto repair systems aren't working correctly and it can't cool itself normally, hence why the heat sinks are an actual vulnerability.
oh I get that, but the Corrupters and Deathbringers had the exact same vulnerability so it just felt like despite the size of the Horus, they didn't actually do anything new. As soon as they mentioned the heatsink I was just...."oh, that's it? Didn't even need a focus to see it. Sure I figured that they would have us attack individual Horus parts, but I figured it would just be more along the lines of "hey Aloy, start attacking one of the legs with your new Zenith weapon and it wouldn't be a specific glowy bit, but perhaps the entire leg would be a valid hit location, just figured it would take a boatload of HP while avoiding the tentacles or I figured maybe it wouldn't be about just outright destroying the horus, maybe just destroying specific components like the automated factories or the bio conversion systems which would be a major threat on its own regardless of the horus.
The bows and arrows didn't really do that much damage, the zenith weapon however did, which is why I was glad to see that reveal in the final trailer because if you're going to justify one person taking down a Horus, you're going to need Brick Tamland's gun from the future.
...I completely forgot I had that gun and just did it with bows and arrows...
It is actually explained somewhere in the game, but I can't recall where why this is. Something something the auto repair systems aren't working correctly and it can't cool itself normally, hence why the heat sinks are an actual vulnerability.
oh I get that, but the Corrupters and Deathbringers had the exact same vulnerability so it just felt like despite the size of the Horus, they didn't actually do anything new. As soon as they mentioned the heatsink I was just...."oh, that's it? Didn't even need a focus to see it. Sure I figured that they would have us attack individual Horus parts, but I figured it would just be more along the lines of "hey Aloy, start attacking one of the legs with your new Zenith weapon and it wouldn't be a specific glowy bit, but perhaps the entire leg would be a valid hit location, just figured it would take a boatload of HP while avoiding the tentacles or I figured maybe it wouldn't be about just outright destroying the horus, maybe just destroying specific components like the automated factories or the bio conversion systems which would be a major threat on its own regardless of the horus.
The bows and arrows didn't really do that much damage, the zenith weapon however did, which is why I was glad to see that reveal in the final trailer because if you're going to justify one person taking down a Horus, you're going to need Brick Tamland's gun from the future.
...I completely forgot I had that gun and just did it with bows and arrows...
Yeah, a precision bow does as much or more damage than the rail mode on that thing. Hell, it was so obvious what to do initially that I blew the first one before the dialogue even caught up to tell me to.
I've tried the new weapon in various ways and outside of the highly unreliable times you can get it to pass through a bot and hit multiple points (there is no consistency to it, even if you line up the same shot twice), it is just a weak shot.
The primary mode is fine, but the work it takes to set it up to not have each hit do minimal damage, I don't think it's any more versatile than, say, a spread shot with a warrior bow or something. Waterwings are about the only enemy I can think of that it actually provides much value to, over other weapons, and it seems like they were balanced around it, which makes killing them with anything else so irritating. Seriously, use the lockon, then the primary; it does so much more damage to the Waterwings than anything else, including them without locking on, that it is clearly intentional.
I'm not against the idea of it, but it feels a bit tacked on and doesn't fill in any gaps of need with current loadouts, so other than just a narrative thing (which it didn't even really serve anyway), I'm not sure what the overall value is. Plus, the lack of upgradability or coils drastically reduces its potential.
Patch 1.24 out. hopefully this should let me get the last datapoint that was bugged. Also one Brimshine was added so you can actually fully upgrade everything now without using glitches.
Patch fixed the aerial north quest, so I could finally finish that and tick Burning Shores over to 100%. Now all I have left is the NG+ stuff and Ultra Hard.
EDIT: It's dumb that they even bother listing the notebook items in NG+ as "found" but they're still greyed out until you find them again. Why? What is the value in that? Either make them all need to be collected or not, the pointless middle ground is just irritating for people like me (which, granted, is probably not a massive amount of the playerbase) who care about it. Also I wish they kept your Machine Strike progress in NG+. I imagine it's not necessary to do it again if you don't want, but it's just another thing on the map that won't be green if you don't.
Finished off all the quests in Burning Shores, still got some collectibles and other things to go but I also kinda wanna get into new Zelda.
It'd never happen, but I kinda feel like the last main mission in Burning Shores (not the epilogue, the last big fight and the leadup to it) would work really well in first person VR. There's no way I'd want to play most of the game that way, but without going into spoilers that last quest just feels like it would translate into something more 'Horizon' than Call of the Mountain was.
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Is there a mod out there that allows me to make surgery templates for captured prisoners or new colonists? I want my doctor(s) to gain experience but I don't like clicking 20 times per prisoner giving them the Pinocchio treatment before I release/eat them.
The only thing I wish they'd work on is official "elevators".
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Well, I'm coming up on the endgame, I guess. I like the new quest system as it did teach me that stuffed and wall mounted insects actually provide a buff. I'd had no idea, because I never bother making them before.
In other news, I'm pretty happy with my backyard castle:
The wasps are new since I last played. Super cool armor set. I haven't gone into the nest yet, that's the last chip I still need. I think that'll be next, though I think I should make a weapon specifically for fight wasps. Hm. Maybe a shortbow with the wasp armor...
Trust me, your opinion of Faro will sink to new and exciting new depths as you go. 'Huge fucking asshole' is probably the most complimentary anyone's ever been towards him.
I largely ignored fast travel in favour of just running around, there always seemed to be somewhere interesting to head towards. But yeah, the loot variety isn't massive. It's not like a looter shooter where you're regularly finding new gear to try.
Okay I’m just after makers end and I gotta say despite not knowing everything Ted Farro is a huge fucking asshole.
Ted Faro is one of the best and most chilling game villains of all time I think. He is utterly, completely despicable, but not because he's a mustache twirling tee-hee end the world guy. He's just completely, utterly self-centered, and yet has all the money in the world, so that self-centeredness does irreparable damage to the world around him. It's because he's a completely realistic 21st century billionaire. That's it. He is, quite literally, the villain we face in real life.
It's funny that when I played the game at launch, I thought "Oh they're clearly modeling Ted after Bezos"
And then my wife played it for the first time this year and she went "So this guy is just Elon Musk, right?"
Love to live in interesting times, etc...
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They are all the same kind of boring shitty evil. It's why you can have that conversation about Glass Onion as well. None of them are really interesting enough to be different
I don't think Faro was "based" off of anybody. Depending on how development progressed, they started all the way back in 2011 and I assume they had the general plot hashed out. I think it's just a prophetic coincidence.
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'Trillionaire Techbro' is all the description you need to have a 90% accurate idea of the character. It's the last ten percent where he truly distinguishes himself.
It's funny that when I played the game at launch, I thought "Oh they're clearly modeling Ted after Bezos"
And then my wife played it for the first time this year and she went "So this guy is just Elon Musk, right?"
How was Forbidden West actually? I remember some crankiness with grinding or something when it came out but wasn't paying that much attention.
2024 is stacked so idk if I'll be able to pick it up. Maybe if it's before DD2.
Fully upgrading stuff takes some grinding.
The frustration comes from needing quite a lot of parts, plus (on Normal or higher difficulties) needing to specifically shoot them off the enemies before you kill them, or the parts are destroyed.
The general advice is to just knock it down to Story mode, farm the parts you need, then turn it back up to whatever you want. That brings it back down to bearable.
(And there's no way Guerrilla haven't seen that happening, so the next game will hopefully address it in some way)
Overall it's not nearly as good as the first game but it's still good. It is definitely very pretty (one of my favorites is going underwater and looking up at the stars at night). If I was going in, I'd probably look online for best weapons and skip some of the side quests, only focusing on the main quest, companion quests, and quests to get the weapon/armor you want.
Sadly they felt like they needed to go "bigger"; way more side quests, too many weapons, too many damage types, and the mechanic from the DLC that I disliked, that's going in the base game and will be everywhere.
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Yeah, the chief failings of Forbidden West are a) upgrades that are too grindy, b) there is a difficulty option which HUGELY alleviates the grind but you have to know to turn it on, and c) they made enemies way too fucking aggro on top of nerfing the ropecaster too hard.
The first two mostly cancel each other out (though the grinding still is a little obnoxious), the third can be mitigated by tuning enemy damage to your liking.
Except for the fucking robot bears, fuck those guys.
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I mean, it's a game where you fight with a bow and arrows. Shooting things was probably gonna figure in there somehow.
It made video game sense, and it was a fucking rush. No notes.
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oh I get that, but the Corrupters and Deathbringers had the exact same vulnerability so it just felt like despite the size of the Horus, they didn't actually do anything new. As soon as they mentioned the heatsink I was just...."oh, that's it? Didn't even need a focus to see it. Sure I figured that they would have us attack individual Horus parts, but I figured it would just be more along the lines of "hey Aloy, start attacking one of the legs with your new Zenith weapon and it wouldn't be a specific glowy bit, but perhaps the entire leg would be a valid hit location, just figured it would take a boatload of HP while avoiding the tentacles or I figured maybe it wouldn't be about just outright destroying the horus, maybe just destroying specific components like the automated factories or the bio conversion systems which would be a major threat on its own regardless of the horus.
The bows and arrows didn't really do that much damage, the zenith weapon however did, which is why I was glad to see that reveal in the final trailer because if you're going to justify one person taking down a Horus, you're going to need Brick Tamland's gun from the future.
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...I completely forgot I had that gun and just did it with bows and arrows...
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Yeah, a precision bow does as much or more damage than the rail mode on that thing. Hell, it was so obvious what to do initially that I blew the first one before the dialogue even caught up to tell me to.
I've tried the new weapon in various ways and outside of the highly unreliable times you can get it to pass through a bot and hit multiple points (there is no consistency to it, even if you line up the same shot twice), it is just a weak shot.
The primary mode is fine, but the work it takes to set it up to not have each hit do minimal damage, I don't think it's any more versatile than, say, a spread shot with a warrior bow or something. Waterwings are about the only enemy I can think of that it actually provides much value to, over other weapons, and it seems like they were balanced around it, which makes killing them with anything else so irritating. Seriously, use the lockon, then the primary; it does so much more damage to the Waterwings than anything else, including them without locking on, that it is clearly intentional.
I'm not against the idea of it, but it feels a bit tacked on and doesn't fill in any gaps of need with current loadouts, so other than just a narrative thing (which it didn't even really serve anyway), I'm not sure what the overall value is. Plus, the lack of upgradability or coils drastically reduces its potential.
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EDIT: Yup! glitched quest datapoint is fixed!
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EDIT: It's dumb that they even bother listing the notebook items in NG+ as "found" but they're still greyed out until you find them again. Why? What is the value in that? Either make them all need to be collected or not, the pointless middle ground is just irritating for people like me (which, granted, is probably not a massive amount of the playerbase) who care about it. Also I wish they kept your Machine Strike progress in NG+. I imagine it's not necessary to do it again if you don't want, but it's just another thing on the map that won't be green if you don't.
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It'd never happen, but I kinda feel like the last main mission in Burning Shores (not the epilogue, the last big fight and the leadup to it) would work really well in first person VR. There's no way I'd want to play most of the game that way, but without going into spoilers that last quest just feels like it would translate into something more 'Horizon' than Call of the Mountain was.
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I guess we know now what D3 has been up to lately.
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I was wondering what was happening with EDF 6's still unannounced English language version, but... I'll take it.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO SIT IN THE BIG CHAIR, MEG!
When the devs know their base too well:
EVERYBODY WANTS TO SIT IN THE BIG CHAIR, MEG!
Patch 1.3 sounds baller.
In other news, I'm pretty happy with my backyard castle:
The wasps are new since I last played. Super cool armor set. I haven't gone into the nest yet, that's the last chip I still need. I think that'll be next, though I think I should make a weapon specifically for fight wasps. Hm. Maybe a shortbow with the wasp armor...
I largely ignored fast travel in favour of just running around, there always seemed to be somewhere interesting to head towards. But yeah, the loot variety isn't massive. It's not like a looter shooter where you're regularly finding new gear to try.
Ted Faro is one of the best and most chilling game villains of all time I think. He is utterly, completely despicable, but not because he's a mustache twirling tee-hee end the world guy. He's just completely, utterly self-centered, and yet has all the money in the world, so that self-centeredness does irreparable damage to the world around him. It's because he's a completely realistic 21st century billionaire. That's it. He is, quite literally, the villain we face in real life.
And then my wife played it for the first time this year and she went "So this guy is just Elon Musk, right?"
Love to live in interesting times, etc...
Don't forget Zuckerberg!
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I adored Zero Dawn. Going into it completely blind was really satisfying. I absolutely loved the whole two stories that unraveled as I played.
Forbidden West has almost made me buy a PS5 several times, but I've held out. Glad to see it's finally paid off!
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The frustration comes from needing quite a lot of parts, plus (on Normal or higher difficulties) needing to specifically shoot them off the enemies before you kill them, or the parts are destroyed.
The general advice is to just knock it down to Story mode, farm the parts you need, then turn it back up to whatever you want. That brings it back down to bearable.
(And there's no way Guerrilla haven't seen that happening, so the next game will hopefully address it in some way)
It's great. The story isn't as good as ZD, but it's still good, and the combat is still great. It's fucking gorgeous.
They went a little Monster Hunter-y with loot needed to upgrade weapons and armor but you can turn on a feature that will almost totally remove it.
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Sadly they felt like they needed to go "bigger"; way more side quests, too many weapons, too many damage types, and the mechanic from the DLC that I disliked, that's going in the base game and will be everywhere.
The first two mostly cancel each other out (though the grinding still is a little obnoxious), the third can be mitigated by tuning enemy damage to your liking.
Except for the fucking robot bears, fuck those guys.