See, there are these links on the realm forums talking about "sex girl" and how they "like the secone one", and well eventually you just have to see how hot these women must be in order to ruin someone's spelling like that.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
I just got rejected by the best PVP guild on the server after they told me that they'd accept me if I bought 3 peices (Ring, Bracers and S3 Gloves). I'm just after wasting 20k honor and 1000 arena points.
fuck that shit
They have no business calling themselves a PvP guild. Any genuine PvP enthusiast guild would care only about the talent, not the gear, of their members. Because although talent is (depressingly) not all that matters, it is still the primary determining factor in balanced PvP, and is all a premade (the forming of which, presumably, is the purpose of the guild) needs to win. Laugh in their faces.
I just got rejected by the best PVP guild on the server after they told me that they'd accept me if I bought 3 peices (Ring, Bracers and S3 Gloves). I'm just after wasting 20k honor and 1000 arena points.
fuck that shit
They have no business calling themselves a PvP guild. Any genuine PvP enthusiast guild would care only about the talent, not the gear, of their members. Because although talent is (depressingly) not all that matters, it is still the primary determining factor in balanced PvP, and is all a premade (the forming of which, presumably, is the purpose of the guild) needs to win. Laugh in their faces.
talent is also the hardest thing to get if you don't have it
See, there are these links on the realm forums talking about "sex girl" and how they "like the secone one", and well eventually you just have to see how hot these women must be in order to ruin someone's spelling like that.
Some of them sound 100% legit until/unless the second poster calls them out as keyloggers. I've been nearly fooled before.
Then there's stuff like how WoWhead, right now, has issues with some of it's ads I think doing funky tricks with your browser to get you to download a keylogger.
It's our holiday and I fucking hate the day so much.
I hate constantly hearing corny ass mother fuckers proclaim how Irish they are and then being met with "ITS ST PADDIES DAY EVERYONE IS IRISH TONIGHT" and then everyone laughs because that's a reference to The Boondock Saints and jesus fucking christ shut the fuck up we've all seen the movie and we get it, you're an alcoholic. Quit with the excuses and get fucking wasted, but at least own up to it.
It's our holiday and I fucking hate the day so much.
I hate constantly hearing corny ass mother fuckers proclaim how Irish they are and then being met with "ITS ST PADDIES DAY EVERYONE IS IRISH TONIGHT" and then everyone laughs because that's a reference to The Boondock Saints and jesus fucking christ shut the fuck up we've all seen the movie and we get it, you're an alcoholic. Quit with the excuses and get fucking wasted, but at least own up to it.
oh man.
thank you. thank you so much for saying what i could never formulate words into without frothing like a rabid dog.
I'd use noscript if it wasn't such a pain in the ass with some things like gmail and all that unless you spend time configuring it.
Noscript just lets you allow scripts from certain sites. All I had to do was click the icon at the bottom and say "allow from gmail.com" and it's all gravy.
Rogues are messed up due to twin glaives, but the rest of it seems pretty accurate.
That's an interesting website. Do mages really get outparsed that consistently?
I remember back in AQ20 and AQ40 when I was fire specced and I'd blow everyone else away on DPS. Of course, who knows, maybe all mages are CC bots now.
Yeah, the haste and AP vs demons (like, 90% of the bosses we're currently facing) gives a hell of an edge. Also, stacking groups so that 3-4 people's buffs are all linked to boost the damage of one person clearly has benefits.
Even with all that said, I'm not sure they should be, like, 50% higher than 2nd place, but I'm perfectly comfortable knowing that my theoretical top end could one day reside in the 3k+ region. I'm hovering around 2k without warglaives, and today's another raid week to pray they drop... and that our dps warrior can't make it. >.>
But seriously, moar glaives! 2 MH's back to back, preferably.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
It's interesting that the bottom 3 are consistently the three classes that have the option to heal. One could imply a conspiracy that they are setup to fail in a dps role.
Note: I recognize that this will begin 5+ pages of "why shouldn't hybrids be able to dps with the 'pure' classes?" / "BECAUSE THEY'RE HYBRIDS, GIVE ME A TANKING TREE AND WE CAN TALK!" shenanigans.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
Yeah, the haste and AP vs demons (like, 90% of the bosses we're currently facing) gives a hell of an edge. Also, stacking groups so that 3-4 people's buffs are all linked to boost the damage of one person clearly has benefits.
Even with all that said, I'm not sure they should be, like, 50% higher than 2nd place, but I'm perfectly comfortable knowing that my theoretical top end could one day reside in the 3k+ region. I'm hovering around 2k without warglaives, and today's another raid week to pray they drop... and that our dps warrior can't make it. >.>
But seriously, moar glaives! 2 MH's back to back, preferably.
Holy shit... I remember seeing the Azzinoth blades as a rumor and data mined way back when and thinking... "No way they'd put those in the game."
How are they gonna have progression with those?? I know they like to start everyone on the same plate when they release expansions... does that mean the epic weapons from WotLK will start at 177 DPS one handers?! O_o
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Yea, I'm not terribly sure about that site's accuracy. It's ranking dps based upon what raid information is provided it, so if raids tend to use Paladins/Priests/Druids as healers more than dps then of course they're going to be at the bottom but it doesn't necessarily reflect the fact that they can't do good dps, just that they're not given the chance to as much compared with the other classes.
maybe I'm a re-re but I don't understand what that website is showing. proportions of each class that are taken to raids?
and do people really churn out 2000+ consistent dps? I have so much trouble believing people can do 3 times my damage (I'm usually around like 650-700 dps according to swstats in my mostly pre-raid gear) when every raid or heroic group I'm in, I usually beat even tier 5 people in damage... but I guess I don't group with the people who clear the BT -_-
Yeah, the haste and AP vs demons (like, 90% of the bosses we're currently facing) gives a hell of an edge. Also, stacking groups so that 3-4 people's buffs are all linked to boost the damage of one person clearly has benefits.
Even with all that said, I'm not sure they should be, like, 50% higher than 2nd place, but I'm perfectly comfortable knowing that my theoretical top end could one day reside in the 3k+ region. I'm hovering around 2k without warglaives, and today's another raid week to pray they drop... and that our dps warrior can't make it. >.>
But seriously, moar glaives! 2 MH's back to back, preferably.
Holy shit... I remember seeing the Azzinoth blades as a rumor and data mined way back when and thinking... "No way they'd put those in the game."
How are they gonna have progression with those?? I know they like to start everyone on the same plate when they release expansions... does that mean the epic weapons from WotLK will start at 177 DPS one handers?! O_o
People using gear from Black Temple/Sunwell should have a distinct advantage over people in greens and blues. By the time they all reach 80 it should even out a bit.
maybe I'm a re-re but I don't understand what that website is showing. proportions of each class that are taken to raids?
and do people really churn out 2000+ consistent dps? I have so much trouble believing people can do 3 times my damage (I'm usually around like 650-700 dps according to swstats in my mostly pre-raid gear) when every raid or heroic group I'm in, I usually beat even tier 5 people in damage... but I guess I don't group with the people who clear the BT -_-
Looks to me like average DPS across different classes, from a sample of all content.
It's interesting that the bottom 3 are consistently the three classes that have the option to heal. One could imply a conspiracy that they are setup to fail in a dps role.
Going back to the topic of shadowpriests earlier, I really couldn't care less about the low levels of dps for those three as long as they're consistently getting into the raids, and in any tough choice for a 25 slot, that a choice between a rogue with 2600 dps and a feral with 1700 dps is a hard one and often comes up for ferals.
Those lists would look very different if they showed raid dps contributed by that class.
I was just commenting. And saying hybrids shouldn't dps as well as pure classes means warriors should be a damn site lower.
edit: However, I also agree that those charts don't mean all that much considering it's unknown how they get their numbers. If they average in healers then of course the 3 healing classes will be lower. It's unknown why warriors are so much higher though.
The bottom three also sacrifice varying levels of DPS to increase overall raid damage. Imp FF and Moonkin Aura (alternatively LotP), keeping proper seals debuffed, restoring mana.
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They have no business calling themselves a PvP guild. Any genuine PvP enthusiast guild would care only about the talent, not the gear, of their members. Because although talent is (depressingly) not all that matters, it is still the primary determining factor in balanced PvP, and is all a premade (the forming of which, presumably, is the purpose of the guild) needs to win. Laugh in their faces.
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talent is also the hardest thing to get if you don't have it
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There are far to many people who will click any link on the wow fourms. Pick up a keylogger crusing for porn and so on
I switch to my warrior, figuring the Alliance has this, and we lose about four games straight.
Absolutely. Fucking. Amazing.
Some of them sound 100% legit until/unless the second poster calls them out as keyloggers. I've been nearly fooled before.
Then there's stuff like how WoWhead, right now, has issues with some of it's ads I think doing funky tricks with your browser to get you to download a keylogger.
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I hate constantly hearing corny ass mother fuckers proclaim how Irish they are and then being met with "ITS ST PADDIES DAY EVERYONE IS IRISH TONIGHT" and then everyone laughs because that's a reference to The Boondock Saints and jesus fucking christ shut the fuck up we've all seen the movie and we get it, you're an alcoholic. Quit with the excuses and get fucking wasted, but at least own up to it.
oh man.
thank you. thank you so much for saying what i could never formulate words into without frothing like a rabid dog.
Rogues are messed up due to twin glaives, but the rest of it seems pretty accurate.
Noscript just lets you allow scripts from certain sites. All I had to do was click the icon at the bottom and say "allow from gmail.com" and it's all gravy.
That's an interesting website. Do mages really get outparsed that consistently?
I remember back in AQ20 and AQ40 when I was fire specced and I'd blow everyone else away on DPS. Of course, who knows, maybe all mages are CC bots now.
Even with all that said, I'm not sure they should be, like, 50% higher than 2nd place, but I'm perfectly comfortable knowing that my theoretical top end could one day reside in the 3k+ region. I'm hovering around 2k without warglaives, and today's another raid week to pray they drop... and that our dps warrior can't make it. >.>
But seriously, moar glaives! 2 MH's back to back, preferably.
Note: I recognize that this will begin 5+ pages of "why shouldn't hybrids be able to dps with the 'pure' classes?" / "BECAUSE THEY'RE HYBRIDS, GIVE ME A TANKING TREE AND WE CAN TALK!" shenanigans.
Holy shit... I remember seeing the Azzinoth blades as a rumor and data mined way back when and thinking... "No way they'd put those in the game."
How are they gonna have progression with those?? I know they like to start everyone on the same plate when they release expansions... does that mean the epic weapons from WotLK will start at 177 DPS one handers?! O_o
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and do people really churn out 2000+ consistent dps? I have so much trouble believing people can do 3 times my damage (I'm usually around like 650-700 dps according to swstats in my mostly pre-raid gear) when every raid or heroic group I'm in, I usually beat even tier 5 people in damage... but I guess I don't group with the people who clear the BT -_-
People using gear from Black Temple/Sunwell should have a distinct advantage over people in greens and blues. By the time they all reach 80 it should even out a bit.
Looks to me like average DPS across different classes, from a sample of all content.
Going back to the topic of shadowpriests earlier, I really couldn't care less about the low levels of dps for those three as long as they're consistently getting into the raids, and in any tough choice for a 25 slot, that a choice between a rogue with 2600 dps and a feral with 1700 dps is a hard one and often comes up for ferals.
Those lists would look very different if they showed raid dps contributed by that class.
edit: However, I also agree that those charts don't mean all that much considering it's unknown how they get their numbers. If they average in healers then of course the 3 healing classes will be lower. It's unknown why warriors are so much higher though.