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Gun Control Thread and the Temple of Doom
Thanatos
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Yes, because Obama has definitely made gun control his #1 priority.I really need to stop procrastinating and buy an AR-15 for 3-gun. I don't know how Obama can lose the general election. The end of limited gun rights is nigh. At least it will be a switch in terms of how the feds are bossing us around. The neocons wear on you after a while.
The man never shuts up about it.
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Hillary has already been burned by gun control and would never touch it. Obama is probably dumb enough to try to bring Chicago gun control to the national level (federalism, anyone?)
Could you at least be internally consistent in your trolling? Obama will tell me how to eat! The President doesn't make the laws!
That was within a span of hours.
Yeah, I remember how when the AWB was in effect, it was impossible to buy a gun anywhere. Truly the end is nigh for the noble gun enthusiast.
Your right to be inane on the internet is in no immediate jeopardy, though I don't know if a sad face really excuses "he's going to tell me how to eat lawl lawl".
And I like the right to not get shot in the face. You don't have the right to arm yourself with all sorts of things. That should include assault weapons.
Besides, no would be tyrant would ever remove the 2nd amendment. That's the weakest defense amongst the populace. They'd go after habeus corpus, due process, judicial oversight...
You guys have spent decades completely and utterly failing to defend anyone else's rights - I mean, really, the record of gun types at defending rights is pathetic, it's abysmal - so please don't expect us to go crying for your lost wang-substitutes.
1) Buying guns.
2) Not paying taxes.
Wow.
I guess dumbfucks can get surprised too.
Move to gun thread, please, so we can actually get an actual reasonable discussion here.
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And beer cans. And little metal duckies on a track.
This is literally the first reasonable thing I've ever seen in D&D. I don't care if you completely disagree with me on everything else.
I should screen capture this and open it up the next time I think about venturing into this forum.
Wait- are you pro-gun or anti-gun? I'm honestly confused.
It is rather hard to argue against little metal duckies on a track.
Maybe that's why they get shot at so much.
What are the major differences between this AWB and the previous one?
Please ban bayonets and require homeowners to use trigger locks.
Define "assault weapons." Aside from magazine capacity, the criteria often wind up being cosmetic (as in, "scary" looking guns).
EDIT: Or in other words, we get bans written by people who don't know shit about guns (except that banning them gets them votes in their district/state), including bans on the dreaded "shoulder thing that goes up."
I'd say it's possible a tyrant might go after both. Which is why habeus corpus, due process, and judicial oversight are incredibly important to defend as well.
"Gun types" are hardly a monolithic entity. Yes, there is a lot of overlap with backwards fucktards...but some gun enthusiasts (like myself, or at least I'd like to think so) are pretty reasonable and progressive people.
Alternately: I'll remember this next time you expect me to care if some homos can get married, or something.
If you ever need to talk to someone, feel free to message me. Yes, that includes you.
Yeah, pretty much. It started out more focused, but there were a good 15 pages worth of general gun control discussion as well.
Somehow I doubt that. Did you even read the primary thread before dropping in? There's a lot of good crunchy info there for anyone willing to invest a few minutes.
Anyway, guns. I would like to hear your answer to my contention that you really haven't done much to defend any actual non-second amendment rights with them. In the past eight years we've seen privacy and habeus corpus go largely out the window, and you guys were not manning any barricades that I saw.
2) "Assault weapon" is basically a meaningless term at this point.
3) Consider ElJeffe's post limed. The assault weapons ban is retarded.
4) Most anti-gun pundits are retarded.
5) Most pro-gun pundits are retarded.
6) Most people who speak out on this issue at all are retarded.
7) The Second Amendment is retarded.
8) The whole situation is retarded.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I haven't seen you use your first amendment rights to defend my second amendment rights, either. So we can just get rid of those, too?
And I'm not seeing how a bunch of dudes getting married are really furthering anybody's rights but their own. So fuck those guys (and gals).
Do you honestly think we've gotten to the point where people should be voting from the rooftops? I mean, yeah, things have gotten bad rights-wise...but have we really hit that point? I'm not sure what it is you're expecting people (or rather, gunowners) to do, here.
Your mistake is in assuming that I'm one of the ones a-tryin to take your guns away. I think maybe individual municipalities should be able to make certain reasonable restrictions, but generally I take the NRA at their word and assume that the problem is a lack of enforcement of the existing laws.
EDIT: I've not been impressed so far with municipalities (or even some states) and "reasonable" restrictions. You get anything from D.C.'s "olol you can totally defend yourself with a disassembled rifle" ban to about half the gun laws in California that are little better than the AWB when it comes to banning based on "scariness" rather than any actual threat.
And that's where the problem is. Just saying 'fully automatic' doesn't even really answer it appropriately and has lots of issues on definition in its own right. Doesn't necessarily mean that a proper definition or categorization exists, though.
If you ban flesh-melting holy arks of the covenant, only outlaws will have flesh-melting holy arks of the covenant.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I just posted in a gun control thread, so by my own reasoning I am also retarded.
So you're in good company.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I'm expecting them to stop using bullshit fictitious arguments about how they're standing by to defend freedom for all of us. Because so far all they're doing is standing.
Works for me. :P
Also, fully-automatic weapons are already subject to a de facto ban at the federal level in the U.S. So, again, I ask what qualify as "assault weapons" that are in need of further banning.
Outlaws and nazis. And I hate Illinois nazis.