Well, the shrinking man, the walking tank, the super-soldier, and the green mutating monster's abilites all game from the world around them, where-as thor is off in another demension, or plane of existance, or something like that.
It'd be like throwing Mister Mxyzptlk into the next Dark Knight movie.
I'm just concerned that if they start playing up that there are these super-human gods running around, it's going to make people like Iron Man and Captain America seem kind of uhm...
small time?
(for the record I'm not trying to like, harp on marvel for making thor, I'm just trying to wrap my head continuity and such)
Well... They are. The universe has a personification in Marvel. Go figure.
But even when Thanos was Eternity's equal or better in Infinity Gauntlet, Captain America still stood face-to-face with Thanos. And that is just the most extreme example I can think of where even conventional heroes faced cosmic odds and stood their ground.
It's the same reason why Nova is now one of the biggest badasses in the universe.
Well, the shrinking man, the walking tank, the super-soldier, and the green mutating monster's abilites all game from the world around them, where-as thor is off in another demension, or plane of existance, or something like that.
It'd be like throwing Mister Mxyzptlk into the next Dark Knight movie.
i think you mean bat-mite, but i understand anyway.
i think the audience of any movie isn't going to walk out in frustration over the entire premise of the movie they're seeing. that plus the fact that it's literally no different than in the comics, i just can't imagine why an audience would suddenly care so much that it's fake magic this time instead of fake science.
I think thor wouldn't have worked back in '99 or 2000. However, with superhero flicks being built off of the fake science bit for a while now, x-men, spider-man, hulk, batman begins & DK, etc. that the market is ready for a fake magic alternative as you put it. Thor and Captain Marvel both being movies that I could see working off of this angle.
Yeah, it looks awesome. I remember back when they first announced the flick, I was all "I hope they put that goddamned genetically enhanced lynx in there" not thinking they ever would.
I think thor wouldn't have worked back in '99 or 2000. However, with superhero flicks being built off of the fake science bit for a while now, x-men, spider-man, hulk, batman begins & DK, etc. that the market is ready for a fake magic alternative as you put it. Thor and Captain Marvel both being movies that I could see working off of this angle.
I think people are plenty crazy in general to eat up a story involving magic and gods. It's been a staple of fiction since the dawn of man, and I can think of some pretty popular ongoing franchises about magicians. Of course, a Thor franchise like Ages of Thunder tied closer to the original myths would be awesome, but it'd have to be toned down not to get an R (Since Marvel won't be making R or NC-17 movies). Luckily there are decades worth of safe stories from the masters. The only thing that needs to be avoided is a piece of steaming crap like The Outlander (I won't even subject you all to the trailer of that abomination).
I've come to the realization that my dislike of Thor just comes down to my hatred of all things fantasy and mystical. I can't stand Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Eragon, King Arthur, and so on.
Don't know why.
Though I do kind of like the concept of a fallen god becoming accustomed with Earth.
But I think that Movie was called "Michael" and starred John Travolta.
I think it would help as a superhero movie to have the human tie to Earth/Midgard. Granted, there are great myths to re-tell. But that stops being the Marvel Thor and just become a Thor/Asgardian myth movie anyone who's read them can make. Pthbbbbt on that.
I think if they made a Shazam Movie, they'd need to have that guy whose like, the Anti-Captain Marvel whose Activation word of what not changes all the time.
aside from having a mortal side and a god side, shazam and thor don't have a whole hell of a lot in common
I don't know anything about Shazam other than he's superman-like with lightening instead of laser eyes and he changes from some kid to super guy. So the basics between the two seem really similar. Like, I mean, we all know Namor is awesome compared to Aquaman but the two are still knock offs of each other.
aside from having a mortal side and a god side, shazam and thor don't have a whole hell of a lot in common
I don't know anything about Shazam other than he's superman-like with lightening instead of laser eyes and he changes from some kid to super guy. So the basics between the two seem really similar. Like, I mean, we all know Namor is awesome compared to Aquaman but the two are still knock offs of each other.
they're still not that similar. billy batson is a regular boy who meets a pederast wizard who gives him the ability to summon magical lightning that bestows upon him the strength of the (greek) gods (actually, i don't even think they're all gods. just mythological figures)
thor is an ageless norse thunder god whose father grew upset at his son's hubris and cursed him to walk the earth as a human to learn humility.
Did anyone get the feeling from that cameo in Hulk that the Avengers movie is going to follow the original reason for the formation of the Avengers?
I hope not.
Well...
at the end, when his eyes turned green and he smiled, he was either enjoying the change, or had SOME degree of control over it.
As for Thor, it could work fairly well. I mean, look at Iron Man. They never EXPLAIN it to us. They're just like "Oh hey this is the arc reactor." and we just take it...like with actual comics. And it seemed to work just fine.
X-men had it easy, their powers have been explained (well, origin-wise) in an easy enough manner. The reason comic book movies are doing so much better is that people aren't being asked to suspend their disbelief that "this is how science works" but more "this is possible", which many are used to from sci-fi and fantasy.
But even when Thanos was Eternity's equal or better in Infinity Gauntlet, Captain America still stood face-to-face with Thanos. And that is just the most extreme example I can think of where even conventional heroes faced cosmic odds and stood their ground.
And look at the Hulk.
Blonsky shows exactly what someone with the super-soldier serum can do, and how thoroughly he was able to run around someone who could snap him in two. The only reason he got hit was because he was being a cocky asshole.
I think if they made a Shazam Movie, they'd need to have that guy whose like, the Anti-Captain Marvel whose Activation word of what not changes all the time.
Wasn't it Pudding at one time?
Black Adam, and The Rock was a possibility to play him at one point.
His word is currently Shazam as well, but it used to be
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I see you've blocked out the horrible movie starring Shaq then?
That's a tough, tough thing to do.
Steel?
Almost. Almost got it out of my head.
Actually I was talking about the Movie Shazam. With Shaq as a Genie, and the boy wastes his first two wishes on a bike and for it rain junk food from the sky.
Well, the shrinking man, the walking tank, the super-soldier, and the green mutating monster's abilites all game from the world around them, where-as thor is off in another demension, or plane of existance, or something like that.
It'd be like throwing Mister Mxyzptlk into the next Dark Knight movie.
i think you mean bat-mite, but i understand anyway.
i think the audience of any movie isn't going to walk out in frustration over the entire premise of the movie they're seeing. that plus the fact that it's literally no different than in the comics, i just can't imagine why an audience would suddenly care so much that it's fake magic this time instead of fake science.
I can understand the concern, but with every one of the avengers cast getting their own movie before the inevitable mass team up, I don't think the audience will be too confused. The Thor movie will play out like a fantasy film...as it should. There'll be talk of might and magic and everyone will have a good ol time. And maybe there'll be a cameo or easter egg after the credits...and that one scene alone will probably be the only thing that ties Thor in any way to the rest of the marvel movie universe.
Then, assuming that the Thor movie is actually, ya know, good, when Avengers rolls around, no one will care. Lets face it, an Avengers movie will consist almost entirely of fan service, and it will be awesome. The majority of the audience will be too psyched over the idea of all these characters being in the same movie to really care about whether magic and mythology mix with iron man's tech driven universe.
And if you can start getting it into the Marvel movie goers head that Magic exists in this universe, there's a greater chance that we will get Fin Fang Foom in an Iron Man movie at some point. Because once magic exists it's only a tiny little jump to alien space dragons. Whereas from the purely tech perspective of Iron Man, it's a bit more of a leap, and would probably require side trips to "Genetically engineered weapon" or "giant robot that looks like a dragon" or possibly "Really ponced up power armor".
I don't think any of us want to see FFF go that way
ANTVGM64 wrote:
I see you've blocked out the horrible movie starring Shaq then?
That's a tough, tough thing to do.
Steel?
Almost. Almost got it out of my head.
Actually I was talking about the Movie Shazam. With Shaw as a Genie, and the boy wastes his first two wishes on a bike and for it rain junk food from the sky.
I don't think FFF would be a hard sell to the average moviegoer. "Iron Man fights Godzilla". They don't necessarily have to get into his origins, just have him working with the Mandarin or some such.
Production Weekly's current issue has The Green Lantern slated as being in the development stage:
STATUS - Development
PRODUCER: Donald De Line - Andrew Haas WRITER: Greg Berlanti - Marc Guggenheim - Michael J Green
DC COMICS 1700 Broadway New York, NY 10019
WARNER BROS. PICTURES 4000 Warner Blvd. Burbank, CA 91522-0001
Each sector of space is protected by a Green Lantern, possessing a power ring that uses a powerful green energy to do anything within the limits of the user's imagination and will power. When the Green Lantern assigned to this sector of space finds himself dying on planet Earth, he tells the ring to find a suitable successor. The chosen replacement, hot-shot test pilot Hal Jordan, finds himself with a new job he never expected.
No director. I guess Warner and DC really got their asses into gear after that meeting.
I don't think FFF would be a hard sell to the average moviegoer. "Iron Man fights Godzilla". They don't necessarily have to get into his origins, just have him working with the Mandarin or some such.
Well, it's just that there has never been a good space alien dragon movie. Nor will the next one (Outlander) be much different.
Good write up. The animation is indeed stiff and twitchy, but if that's what it takes to have a game where you can be a Speedster and run up everything, then I can deal.
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Well... They are. The universe has a personification in Marvel. Go figure.
But even when Thanos was Eternity's equal or better in Infinity Gauntlet, Captain America still stood face-to-face with Thanos. And that is just the most extreme example I can think of where even conventional heroes faced cosmic odds and stood their ground.
It's the same reason why Nova is now one of the biggest badasses in the universe.
i think you mean bat-mite, but i understand anyway.
i think the audience of any movie isn't going to walk out in frustration over the entire premise of the movie they're seeing. that plus the fact that it's literally no different than in the comics, i just can't imagine why an audience would suddenly care so much that it's fake magic this time instead of fake science.
And I thought Bubastis was red.
...but seriously, I'm so fucking excited.
And they probably changed Bubastis' color to reflect the darker coloration of Ozy's own outfit.
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Don't know why.
Though I do kind of like the concept of a fallen god becoming accustomed with Earth.
But I think that Movie was called "Michael" and starred John Travolta.
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I don't know anything about Shazam other than he's superman-like with lightening instead of laser eyes and he changes from some kid to super guy. So the basics between the two seem really similar. Like, I mean, we all know Namor is awesome compared to Aquaman but the two are still knock offs of each other.
they're still not that similar. billy batson is a regular boy who meets a pederast wizard who gives him the ability to summon magical lightning that bestows upon him the strength of the (greek) gods (actually, i don't even think they're all gods. just mythological figures)
thor is an ageless norse thunder god whose father grew upset at his son's hubris and cursed him to walk the earth as a human to learn humility.
As for Thor, it could work fairly well. I mean, look at Iron Man. They never EXPLAIN it to us. They're just like "Oh hey this is the arc reactor." and we just take it...like with actual comics. And it seemed to work just fine.
X-men had it easy, their powers have been explained (well, origin-wise) in an easy enough manner. The reason comic book movies are doing so much better is that people aren't being asked to suspend their disbelief that "this is how science works" but more "this is possible", which many are used to from sci-fi and fantasy.
And look at the Hulk.
Almost. Almost got it out of my head.
Black Adam, and The Rock was a possibility to play him at one point.
His word is currently Shazam as well, but it used to be
Actually I was talking about the Movie Shazam. With Shaq as a Genie, and the boy wastes his first two wishes on a bike and for it rain junk food from the sky.
movie = lame.
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I can understand the concern, but with every one of the avengers cast getting their own movie before the inevitable mass team up, I don't think the audience will be too confused. The Thor movie will play out like a fantasy film...as it should. There'll be talk of might and magic and everyone will have a good ol time. And maybe there'll be a cameo or easter egg after the credits...and that one scene alone will probably be the only thing that ties Thor in any way to the rest of the marvel movie universe.
Then, assuming that the Thor movie is actually, ya know, good, when Avengers rolls around, no one will care. Lets face it, an Avengers movie will consist almost entirely of fan service, and it will be awesome. The majority of the audience will be too psyched over the idea of all these characters being in the same movie to really care about whether magic and mythology mix with iron man's tech driven universe.
I don't think any of us want to see FFF go that way
It'd take a miracle for people not familiar with FFF to assume it won't suck just on that premise.
that movie is called Kazaam
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No director. I guess Warner and DC really got their asses into gear after that meeting.
Well, it's just that there has never been a good space alien dragon movie. Nor will the next one (Outlander) be much different.
No one but me
it was like CoH with more action