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Warhammer at PAX

BeastGraphixBeastGraphix Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in PAX Archive
Anything?

Any specialty...Blood Bowl....Battlefleet?

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  • RosethornRosethorn Registered User new member
    edited June 2008
    EA Mythic will be there, so I'm going to guess yes. They are doing a fan gathering as well.

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  • redhaloredhalo Also a Professional Alcoholic Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Rosethorn wrote: »
    EA Mythic will be there, so I'm going to guess yes. They are doing a fan gathering as well.

    I think he means table top.

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  • lunacitelunacite Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    There will be a LARGE apocalypse 40k game with the 5th ed rules on saturday.
    There will be assorted Fantasy games, but historically 40k has been more popular.

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  • Oz K. FodrotskiOz K. Fodrotski Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I'd love to give Warhammer / 40k a try, I've enjoyed the mythos of both but never had the cash to drop on a whole army for either. Does anyone know if there will be opportunities for newbies to cut our teeth (so to speak) on a quick round?

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  • lunacitelunacite Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Delmont and I will have demo armies for 40k, Fantasy, and Lord of the Rings available, and there will be demo games run.

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  • Oz K. FodrotskiOz K. Fodrotski Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    lunacite wrote: »
    Delmont and I will have demo armies for 40k, Fantasy, and Lord of the Rings available, and there will be demo games run.

    Awesome, thanks!

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  • redhaloredhalo Also a Professional Alcoholic Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I too would love to try 40k out. I'm a complete noob to wargaming, but have always been interested.

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  • kingmob13kingmob13 Registered User new member
    edited July 2008
    Sounds great, I'd love to do a 40k demo and I'm looking forward to the Mythic gathering too (though it's off-topic).

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  • TrainwreckXTrainwreckX Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Man, I haven't been into the hobby for about 2 years now.... but I'm wondering if I should dust off my eldar and marines.

    In other news, they already came out with a 5th effing edition? How long did 4th last? 2 years at the most? That's weak. Didn't they have 3rd ed for like 10 years?

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  • lunacitelunacite Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    4th ed was released in 2004, so it made 4 years. 3rd was released in 1998.

    By all means dust off your stuff, there'll be pick up games all weekend, and even experienced players can get a run through the new 5th ed stuff.

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  • TrainwreckXTrainwreckX Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ehh, I don't know if I have any bits that would be any good in the new rule set. I remember 3rd to 4th edition was a minor rule revision, but all of the codicies got a major revamp. I have the 4th edition army books. Are there now 5th edition codicies I would have to worry about?

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  • emorimikuemorimiku Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    So what are the options for the demo armies. Are there just going to be like a few different races represented in 40k/fantasy or are all the armies going to be demoable?

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  • TrainwreckXTrainwreckX Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    On a related note, is Fantasy still in the 6th edition? If so, I have a 6th edition Lizardmen army (I forgot how many points worth) that I could possibly bring. Though I forget how to play, since I never had friends that were into it...

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  • leafleaf Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Don't bother bringing battlefleet, unless you do the paper cutout method and bring two fleets for people to play with. Brought my fleet a few years in a row, and I was the only one to show up with bfg.

    This year I might bring a small ork or chaos army. Casual games only I think, rather than doing the all-day thing of the tourney.

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  • lunacitelunacite Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    * There will be a decent selection of 40k armies. We don't have them all, but we have a lot. All the codeces should be available.
    * Fantasy selection will be slimmer, but still will have enough for demos.

    More specifically:
    *Warhammer Fantasy is in 7th edition now, but a 6th ed lizardmen army should still work, the same army book is in effect.

    *40k 4th to 5th contains some minor tweaks to speed up gameplay and make the game more skill based.

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  • FrowbakkFrowbakk Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm really looking forward to the big 40K Apocalypse game since this time I'm bringing my Orks and 2 Stompas and one Mekboy Stompa to the battle.

    Although if I get off my duff and build two more Stompas, then I could put together a Dread Mob of 4 Stompas transporting Kans and Dreads. Maybe as an "I didn't bring anything, can I join in?" group for someone to borrow.

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  • lunacitelunacite Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Which reminds me:
    We'll have Apocalypse, Apocalypse:Reloaded, and all the online datasheets on hand, we're working on getting a copy of the Imperial Armor: Apocalypse book. Datasheets in these books will be the VASTLY preferred method of using any super-heavies/formations. Efforts will be made to use "Counts-as" in preference of custom datatsheets. Any custom sheets will require the approval of the game organizers.

    This is just for simplicity in gameplay & speed concerns.

    We have a surprise or two brewing for you over here on the planning side. From now till the event will be solid building/painting sprees for us.

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  • FrowbakkFrowbakk Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Any building sessions for terrain tha tthose of us in the seattle area can get in on?

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  • ArcoArco Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Would anyone be interested in doing a Mordheim demo/campaign? I can bring enough models, terrain, the rulebook, etc. to get 3-4 people playing, and we might be able to get a continuous campaign running the whole weekend.

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  • GeneralsGenerals Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It would be super nice if Games Workshop actually were present to do some events/demos in PAX. Last time I went, Privateer Press had a venue to hold games, events, tournaments,etc...

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  • FrowbakkFrowbakk Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Generals wrote: »
    It would be super nice if Games Workshop actually were present to do some events/demos in PAX. Last time I went, Privateer Press had a venue to hold games, events, tournaments,etc...

    According to the latest White Dwarf, the Fantastic Games store in Edmonds will be running a lot of Warhammer stuff, both 40K and Fantasy at PAX, including demo games and the like. I've been to some of the events/tourneys that they've held and they do a good job. I'm not worried about Warhammer being (literally) pushed into a corner of the Tabletop area this year.

    But you're right. Every year the Privateer Press display has far outshone anything Games Workshop has put forth, from just the 40K card game while PAX was at Meydenbauer to the Warhammer Online vaporware the past two years.

    To an outsider it really makes it seem that Privateer Press is the industry juggernaut, while Games Workshop is the smaller 'wanna-be' company which lacks focus.

    I really want to see if GW have stepped up for their booth in the Exhibition Hall this year, or if it will be another video of some bald british git saying "We're the blokes who make those miniatures," while he holds up a sprue for a second or two before tossing it over his shoulder to gush about Warhammer Online.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'd love to bring my stuff and play, but honestly, I just don't have the models for it without proxying. I have about 500 points worth of Imperial guard, but not the right models for 1HQ/2Troops.

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  • DelmontDelmont Registered User new member
    edited August 2008
    I also have a witch hunter warband and the Mordhiem books I might be able to bring. Would love to get a few games in during some downtime.

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  • ArcoArco Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Delmont wrote: »
    I also have a witch hunter warband and the Mordhiem books I might be able to bring. Would love to get a few games in during some downtime.

    Delmont, and anyone else interested in Mordheim or other specialist games, you might want to post over at http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=6523762&posted=1#post6523762

    That seems to be getting the most interest, and the OP is keeping the list at the top updated frequently with informational links and what-not.

    I have the Mordheim rulebook plus the first issue of Best of Town Cryer (random happenings, dwarves, orcs and goblins), and right now I have warbands for skaven, humans (2-3 warbands worth), dwarves, pirates, and orcs & goblins. I also have enough terrain to fill a 4'x4' table.

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  • lunacitelunacite Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Raslin wrote: »
    I'd love to bring my stuff and play, but honestly, I just don't have the models for it without proxying. I have about 500 points worth of Imperial guard, but not the right models for 1HQ/2Troops.


    That's the brilliant part about apocalypse, there's NO force organization!
    Want to run 5 elites? BRING EM!
    Want to run 10 HQ? BRING EM!
    Only One troop? BRING IT!!

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    lunacite wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    I'd love to bring my stuff and play, but honestly, I just don't have the models for it without proxying. I have about 500 points worth of Imperial guard, but not the right models for 1HQ/2Troops.


    That's the brilliant part about apocalypse, there's NO force organization!
    Want to run 5 elites? BRING EM!
    Want to run 10 HQ? BRING EM!
    Only One troop? BRING IT!!

    Yes, but I don't think ~500 points is really appropriate for apoc, especially since only one model(one of my tanks) is even painted.

    Its all good though, I'd rather not try and find a way to bring my stuff on the plane. My guardsmen are fragile, in more than one way.

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  • ArcoArco Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I've got enough Mordheim stuff for like 4 people. 4 warbands, lots of terrain, etc. If you want to play, I'll have the stuff to play with.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I might be up for checking it out, but I don't really know how to play Fantasy, mainly a 40k player.

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  • DelmontDelmont Registered User new member
    edited August 2008
    Raslin,

    If you want to play in the game I have plenty of stuff you could borrow. I'm helping Lunacite out with the game anyway, would you prefer Imperial, Chaos, Necrons, or Eldar? This option is open to anyone as well, just treat the models nicely! :)

    Delmont

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I've always relied on the kindness of strangers ;)

    I'm sure I'll hunt you guys down and see if anyone around has extra's to use. I'm personally an Imperial Guard player, and would probably be best(as I don't know other armies well enough to construct lists, etc).

    I'm sure we will have some awesome games :)

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  • ArcoArco Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    OH OH OH OH! I want to play 40k with Delmont's Eldar!

    I have a very small amount of Iyanden Eldar left over from back when I played 40k, but not enough to play with and a lot of them are broken. :( I have like 12 wraithguard, a wraithlord, 20 guardians, 3 warlocks, and a farseer. My farseer is the best model I've ever painted. I heart him so much. I had a big thing for Eldar back when I was into 40k. Sadly I haven't been able to play in years.

    I haven't played 40k since 3rd edition, so I might need some coaching. But I'd love to play. I'd be more than happy to teach someone Mordheim (which is very easy, far less rules than 40k or fantasy) in exchange for coaching on 6th edition 40k.

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Arco wrote: »
    OH OH OH OH! I want to play 40k with Delmont's Eldar!

    I have a very small amount of Iyanden Eldar left over from back when I played 40k, but not enough to play with and a lot of them are broken. :( I have like 12 wraithguard, a wraithlord, 20 guardians, 3 warlocks, and a farseer. My farseer is the best model I've ever painted. I heart him so much. I had a big thing for Eldar back when I was into 40k. Sadly I haven't been able to play in years.

    I haven't played 40k since 3rd edition, so I might need some coaching. But I'd love to play. I'd be more than happy to teach someone Mordheim (which is very easy, far less rules than 40k or fantasy) in exchange for coaching on 6th edition 40k.

    5th edition, actually.

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  • TrainwreckXTrainwreckX Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I see the facts listed in the post above, but I find it so hard to believe that 4th edition has been in use as long as it has. 4th edition really feels like it was just a blip of time. This is why I hate GW and got out of the hobby.

    With WYSIWYG, they end up making your models outmoded by changing the gear that a ranger carries, and your rangers don't look like that so are illegal or whatever.

    They also make it so that people who are on a budget and bought an exact amount of points worth of an army are fucked, because they change the army lists so that your army is worthless (I played Alaitoc Eldar in 3rd edition, which was completely removed from 4th, so I had a vanilla army that sucked).

    I understand they are a business so they have to do this to survive, and a lot of rules DO get better. But I just got sick of it. LOL, but I still have all my armies (Eldar, Black Templar, Necrons, and a few misc pieces from Nids and some other stuff).

    I wouldn't be opposed to getting rid of it at PAX. At least the Eldar (of which I have over 1000 points).

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Just on WYSIWYG, thats probably the main house rule me and my friends have. AKA, not having it.

    We aren't exactly made out of money. We strive to have WYSIWYG for our models, but hell, you want all your leman russes to have lascannons instead of heavy bolters? Or that squad of guardsman are actually stormtroopers, because they are freaking expensive and you just want to try them out for a game?

    Sure, because we aren't dicks. General rule is, if its fairly easy to remember(all X is now Y, etc), and you are doing it because you can't afford to have every configuration you'd possibly use ready to go at a moments notice... you're fine.

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  • DelmontDelmont Registered User new member
    edited August 2008
    Yea, most people are actually like that. As for the ranger thing, if its a Ranger model it is legal. Pure and simple. There is nothing that makes the old Ranger models illegal in 4th or even 5th edition. When new books come out some armies need some tweaks to still work, but an all ranger/pathfinder based army is still perfectly viable.

    As for the borrowed armies looks like Eldar is spoken for. I don't have all that much of them built as of now, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 points I'd guess. No guardians what so ever. Go go aspect warriors!

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  • TrainwreckXTrainwreckX Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Delmont wrote: »
    Yea, most people are actually like that. As for the ranger thing, if its a Ranger model it is legal. Pure and simple. There is nothing that makes the old Ranger models illegal in 4th or even 5th edition. When new books come out some armies need some tweaks to still work, but an all ranger/pathfinder based army is still perfectly viable.

    As for the borrowed armies looks like Eldar is spoken for. I don't have all that much of them built as of now, somewhere in the neighborhood of 1500 points I'd guess. No guardians what so ever. Go go aspect warriors!

    The ranger/pathfinder army relied heavily on the disruption table from the Craftworld Codex. It made heavy enemy armies more managable by way of pinning/reinforcements. A lot of people considered it cheap at first, but when they beat me in close combat slaughter, it really didn't matter. The table just delayed the inevitable, and gave me a chance to pick off a few more monsters before things got to my rangers and ripped them up.

    Then I'd have to have my aspects roam around and clean up if I wanted the win. But yeah, vanilla now can take the pathfinders. I ended up buying the 4th edition Codex where they introduced the Auctarch. Is there a 5th edition Eldar Codex on the way or out yet?

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The eldar codex is relatively new, and was apparently made with 5th edition in mind. The codex order seems to be Space Marines, Imperial Guard, and Dark Eldar, though not nessecarially in that order(though Space Marines are likely first). Orks, Chaos, and Eldar seem to be considered 5th edition ready, and Necrons/Tyranids may or may not be getting new editions after those three.

    I don't see why your strategy won't work, though. Pinning is the same as it was, and I don't believe reinforcements were changed much. I will say I don't really know anything about the disruption table, but it should be the same as it was, as the codex doesn't change, just the major rule set.

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  • lunacitelunacite Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Raslin wrote: »
    The eldar codex is relatively new, and was apparently made with 5th edition in mind. The codex order seems to be Space Marines, Imperial Guard, and Dark Eldar, though not nessecarially in that order(though Space Marines are likely first). Orks, Chaos, and Eldar seem to be considered 5th edition ready, and Necrons/Tyranids may or may not be getting new editions after those three.

    I don't see why your strategy won't work, though. Pinning is the same as it was, and I don't believe reinforcements were changed much. I will say I don't really know anything about the disruption table, but it should be the same as it was, as the codex doesn't change, just the major rule set.

    The disruption table was in the old Craftworld Eldar codex, which has been replaced with the new Eldar Codex. A lot of the changes made in 5th ed have helped gun-line armies, most notably the ability to consolidate from one combat into another has been lost. Add in a couple of scouting/infiltrating units coming on from the short board edges & you've got a lot of bait/switch that can be done with your more elite Aspect units.

    Bring 'em out and give 'em a try, there'll be plenty of people to play.

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  • QforQQforQ Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Rosethorn wrote: »
    EA Mythic will be there, so I'm going to guess yes. They are doing a fan gathering as well.

    They haven't mentioned anything that I've seen yet but it would be cool if they coordinated something :) Especially since it would be so close to launch.

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  • TrainwreckXTrainwreckX Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    lunacite wrote: »
    Raslin wrote: »
    The eldar codex is relatively new, and was apparently made with 5th edition in mind. The codex order seems to be Space Marines, Imperial Guard, and Dark Eldar, though not nessecarially in that order(though Space Marines are likely first). Orks, Chaos, and Eldar seem to be considered 5th edition ready, and Necrons/Tyranids may or may not be getting new editions after those three.

    I don't see why your strategy won't work, though. Pinning is the same as it was, and I don't believe reinforcements were changed much. I will say I don't really know anything about the disruption table, but it should be the same as it was, as the codex doesn't change, just the major rule set.

    The disruption table was in the old Craftworld Eldar codex, which has been replaced with the new Eldar Codex. A lot of the changes made in 5th ed have helped gun-line armies, most notably the ability to consolidate from one combat into another has been lost. Add in a couple of scouting/infiltrating units coming on from the short board edges & you've got a lot of bait/switch that can be done with your more elite Aspect units.

    Bring 'em out and give 'em a try, there'll be plenty of people to play.

    Right. The Disruption Table is officially out of effect. I only ever played 1 game of 4th edition, and never a single game of 5th edition (I've never seen the rules even). So I'll feel like a fish out of water.

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