So, when something is dismissed as a "moot point", it's dismissed not because it's already been decided, but because it is too open to debate, meaning there isn't enough merit to decide one way or the other.
So, when something is dismissed as a "moot point", it's dismissed not because it's already been decided, but because it is too open to debate, meaning there isn't enough merit to decide one way or the other.
So, when something is dismissed as a "moot point", it's dismissed not because it's already been decided, but because it is too open to debate, meaning there isn't enough merit to decide one way or the other.
Apparently they are using the original definition of the term, but due to regional differences and the shift of languages over time, they are also using the outdated definition of the term.
moot [moot] -adjective
1. open to discussion or debate; debatable; doubtful: a moot point.
2. of little or no practical value or meaning; purely academic.
3. Chiefly Law. not actual; theoretical; hypothetical.
This is why I prefer dictionaries that actually reference usage:
moot, adj:
1. Originally in Law, of a case, issue, etc.: proposed for discussion at a moot (MOOT n.1 4). Later also gen.: open to argument, debatable; uncertain, doubtful; unable to be firmly resolved. Freq. in moot case, moot point.
2. N. Amer. (orig. Law). Of a case, issue, etc.: having no practical significance or relevance; abstract, academic. Now the usual sense in North America.
Emphasis mine.
The second definition has also been around since 1807, so, it's not a new phenomenon either.
Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!
I think that counts as a misconception, right?
Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.
My cousin who's in high school right now likes Episodes 1-3 better than the old ones. Such a sad sad day when he told me that.
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Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!
I think that counts as a misconception, right?
Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.
My cousin who's in high school right now likes Episodes 1-3 better than the old ones. Such a sad sad day when he told me that.
Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!
I think that counts as a misconception, right?
Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.
My cousin who's in high school right now likes Episodes 1-3 better than the old ones.
I also prefer Episodes 1-3.
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Back in second grade or so, I thought the Ewoks were the best part of Return of the Jedi. Fuzzy pals getting into mischief involving speeder bikes? Genius!
I think that counts as a misconception, right?
Yes. I pity the children who will grow up liking Jar Jar Binks, but I'm not sure they exist.
My cousin who's in high school right now likes Episodes 1-3 better than the old ones.
I also prefer Episodes 1-3.
I now support the extremist Muslim decree that Israel must be driven into the sea.
Needs Quimby-trial "Chowdah!" vs "Shouderr!" clip.
edit: There's also that whole thing about how people can tell you're out of town if you mispronounce a location, like "Worcester" in New England. Go on, try and pronounce it.
There's a good chance you said it wrong.
OK. Is it "Wor-ster"? That's how I read it.
I think it could also be "war-chester" but i think that's how most people pronounce it, so it also makes me think that's wrong.
Trying to pronounce half the place names in this country is an exercise in futility.
I mean, we've got the goddamn Tems. I mean Thames. There's another misconception I had as a kid: I pronounced it thaims, to rhyme with games. Wasn't exactly long held but when I figured it out I remember thinking that it was probably down to the same sort of logic that led to that X being put on the Prix in Grand Prix. Which I did of course used to read as Pricks.
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Trying to pronounce half the place names in this country is an exercise in futility.
I mean, we've got the goddamn Tems. I mean Thames. There's another misconception I had as a kid: I pronounced it thaims, to rhyme with games. Wasn't exactly long held but when I figured it out I remember thinking that it was probably down to the same sort of logic that led to that X being put on the Prix in Grand Prix. Which I did of course used to read as Pricks.
Also, seriously, Worcester is hard for some of you people? Wooster. That's it. "Woo" like "Wood" and "ster" like "Stir." Duh.
And to add my own misconception, I realized that I been saying my girlfriend's boss' last name wrong the entire time I've known her. I thought the guy's last name was "Stafford" and when she typed it out on AIM the other day, for the first time, she typed something like "Fahfarad."
It's actually spelled Edinburgh, but your pronunciation is correct
Anyway Warwick is pronounced Warrick in England.
Me and my girlfriend went and met some of her school friends in London while they were visiting, and she has one of those friends that thought every English town ended in shire o_O
"Oh yeah, I was thinking of going up to visit burr-ming-ham-shire"
Leicester tends to confuse Americans as well.
In the interest of education it's pronounced Lester not Lie-cester
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It's actually spelled Edinburgh, but your pronunciation is correct
Anyway Warwick is pronounced Warrick in England.
Me and my girlfriend went and met some of her school friends in London while they were visiting, and she has one of those friends that thought every English town ended in shire o_O
"Oh yeah, I was thinking of going up to visit burr-ming-ham-shire"
Leicester tends to confuse Americans as well.
In the interest of education it's pronounced Lester not Lie-cester
Whoops, "Edinbourough" was supposed to be the incorrect pronunciation, I somehow managed to not type Edinburgh first.
There's actually a Leicester in North Carolina near where I use to live. Nobody knew how to pronounce it, even the people who lived there. And pronouncing it right only confused people.
I was talking about the original Warwick, in England.
Yea, you freak, who gives about some silly America-Copy town.
New York is so much better than plain old York.
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Birmingham. Frequently rated the least intelligent accent for people, like below silence.
Yeah, it's pretty bad. At first I thought folks like Ozzy Osbourne were unintelligible because of the drugs/drinking, and then I met some people from there and I was like, "shit... all y'all speak like that?" And then they made fun of me for my "all y'all". Look in the mirror.
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where are you getting this definition
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moot_point
Apparently they are using the original definition of the term, but due to regional differences and the shift of languages over time, they are also using the outdated definition of the term.
thus: "Moot court"
moot, adj:
1. Originally in Law, of a case, issue, etc.: proposed for discussion at a moot (MOOT n.1 4). Later also gen.: open to argument, debatable; uncertain, doubtful; unable to be firmly resolved. Freq. in moot case, moot point.
2. N. Amer. (orig. Law). Of a case, issue, etc.: having no practical significance or relevance; abstract, academic.
Now the usual sense in North America.
Emphasis mine.
The second definition has also been around since 1807, so, it's not a new phenomenon either.
Yeah, there are a few other words this is true for. The only one I remember off the top of my head is cleave.
To cling,adhere, stick fast to, as in "I cleaved to her bosom"
To split, or sever as in "I cleaved his shield in twain with my mighty axe"
My cousin who's in high school right now likes Episodes 1-3 better than the old ones. Such a sad sad day when he told me that.
We are now our fathers and mothers.
I also prefer Episodes 1-3.
I now support the extremist Muslim decree that Israel must be driven into the sea.
OK. Is it "Wor-ster"? That's how I read it.
I think it could also be "war-chester" but i think that's how most people pronounce it, so it also makes me think that's wrong.
Worchestershire?
I mean, we've got the goddamn Tems. I mean Thames. There's another misconception I had as a kid: I pronounced it thaims, to rhyme with games. Wasn't exactly long held but when I figured it out I remember thinking that it was probably down to the same sort of logic that led to that X being put on the Prix in Grand Prix. Which I did of course used to read as Pricks.
War-wick
Glouw-chester
South-wark
Green-witch
Those were all generally wrong.
Warwick = Warrick
Gloucester = Glauster
Southwark I dunno
I tend to think of Greenwich as Grennich though :P
Southwark is "Sutherk".
I guess the Brits just have something against pronouncing the letter W.
It's War-wick. Warwick, Rhode Island.
Also, seriously, Worcester is hard for some of you people? Wooster. That's it. "Woo" like "Wood" and "ster" like "Stir." Duh.
And to add my own misconception, I realized that I been saying my girlfriend's boss' last name wrong the entire time I've known her. I thought the guy's last name was "Stafford" and when she typed it out on AIM the other day, for the first time, she typed something like "Fahfarad."
No idea how I got "Stafford" from that.
Edinburr. Edinburra is also acceptable.
It's actually spelled Edinburgh, but your pronunciation is correct
Anyway Warwick is pronounced Warrick in England.
Me and my girlfriend went and met some of her school friends in London while they were visiting, and she has one of those friends that thought every English town ended in shire o_O
"Oh yeah, I was thinking of going up to visit burr-ming-ham-shire"
Leicester tends to confuse Americans as well.
In the interest of education it's pronounced Lester not Lie-cester
I was talking about the original Warwick, in England.
I swear sometimes you people are worse than the French.
There's actually a Leicester in North Carolina near where I use to live. Nobody knew how to pronounce it, even the people who lived there. And pronouncing it right only confused people.
"I have to go to Lester today."
"Who?"
When I was a kid I thought the word Horizon was pronounced Horror-zone for a while. That may explain why I like Dnd so much, amongst other things.
Yea, you freak, who gives about some silly America-Copy town.
New York is so much better than plain old York.
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Why they changed it, I can't say,
People just liked it better that wayyyyyyy...:whistle:
It is supposed to be "All intents and purposes" just so you know :P
"WUH-ster-sher"