Anyone with big oaf hands? I've been fiddling around with a more comfortable grip, and I'm considering getting a screw extender for my joystick to give myself a little extra room.
Anyone have any experience with this?
This might seem counter-intuitive, but you may also want to try a smaller 30mm balltop.
The thing I don't particularly like about watching KOFXIV are the d.LK hitconfirms into MAX mode combos for huge damage. d.LK hitconfirm combos have been a part of KOF since pretty much forever ago, so I don't think that they should go, but the d.LK chaining into far-reaching st.LK xx MAX mode for like 40% or more is incredibly strong: you have a very fast combo starter that makes it an excellent punish, it's a low hit so it's an effective mixup from empty jumps/hops, it's generally safe on block, it can work at pretty long ranges because of the reach that many st.LK's have, etc. etc.
Xiao Hai used it to supreme effect with his incredible sense of spacing and timing, punishing all kinds of things that might otherwise seem like low-risk approaches. Over and over again he did that with K' and Mai. Now, Xiao Hai is an absolute monster at KOF, which is of course a difference-maker when it comes to how effectively he can utilize it, but still, it was a defining feature of his top 8, and eventually championship, performance.
Mian seems to be really polarizing in the viewership. I love watching Mian, because she has an offense and approach that is like a combination of SamSho 5's Yunfei and KOF's Seth (alternatively: like a character from Divekick on steroids) that is entirely unique in the game, and defeating it is totally possible with a combination of good reactions and pattern recognition. Definitely a lot of the viewship thinks it looks like total BS, though.
I feel the same way about Nakoruru mirrors. Her tools are so powerful/BS that when pitted against herself there's a unique and sometimes silly game that arises. She doesn't actually get free rushdown on herself, nor can she easily out-turtle herself.
People on facebook are already translating:
- Button config glitch is fixed (this is when sometimes button config defaulted back to the profile's preferences).
- Fuzzy guard is gone
- No more throw invincibilty on wake up rolls and teching (thank fucking god)
- Less input buffer for qcf x 2 inputs; more input buffer for hcf x 2 inputs
Robert nerfs:
- Robert: less dmg,stun/guard chip on cl.D
- smaller hit box on far D
- less invincile on heavy DP
- smaller hitbox on fireball (normal and EX)
- less damage on EX hcb +K
- less damage on EX ranbu
Terry Changes:
- Far shorter horizontal hitbox, but hitbox is larger towards the ground
- light burn knuckle: More recovery
- fixed input priority for rising tackle and buster wolf
Situations with opposite inputs with key pad and analog stick now reverts to key pad inputs only (looks like they're fixing 2-direction guard).
The thing I don't particularly like about watching KOFXIV are the d.LK hitconfirms into MAX mode combos for huge damage. d.LK hitconfirm combos have been a part of KOF since pretty much forever ago, so I don't think that they should go, but the d.LK chaining into far-reaching st.LK xx MAX mode for like 40% or more is incredibly strong: you have a very fast combo starter that makes it an excellent punish, it's a low hit so it's an effective mixup from empty jumps/hops, it's generally safe on block, it can work at pretty long ranges because of the reach that many st.LK's have, etc. etc.
Yeah I can't agree with this. The high/low options leading into high damage is what makes the game so nerve-wracking. Honestly 40% off 1 bar isnt that much different than street fighter 5 and its not like 13 where it leads to 75% damage.
Anyone with big oaf hands? I've been fiddling around with a more comfortable grip, and I'm considering getting a screw extender for my joystick to give myself a little extra room.
Anyone have any experience with this?
Yeah, I'm ~6’5", and I've had a hell of a time with sticks. I really cannot recommend the hitbox form factor enough.
However, I've grown a little more accustomed to stick lately. It's about using less of your giant oaf hands, like holding a safety razor. I start with wineglass grip, turn my hand enough to anchor the blade of the palm on the surface of the stick. Then I move the balltop mostly with my fingertips. The key for me is the anchoring. Otherwise I lose my frame of reference and jump every time I want to fireball.
The thing I don't particularly like about watching KOFXIV are the d.LK hitconfirms into MAX mode combos for huge damage. d.LK hitconfirm combos have been a part of KOF since pretty much forever ago, so I don't think that they should go, but the d.LK chaining into far-reaching st.LK xx MAX mode for like 40% or more is incredibly strong: you have a very fast combo starter that makes it an excellent punish, it's a low hit so it's an effective mixup from empty jumps/hops, it's generally safe on block, it can work at pretty long ranges because of the reach that many st.LK's have, etc. etc.
Yeah I can't agree with this. The high/low options leading into high damage is what makes the game so nerve-wracking. Honestly 40% off 1 bar isnt that much different than street fighter 5 and its not like 13 where it leads to 75% damage.
It's also satisfying as all heck! To me, at least
Clockw0rk's point for Marvel applies here too about how even if you one touch kill a character you really only did 33% of your opponents total health. The damage in marvel/kof doesn't feel so crazy when I think about it that way
Yeah I can't agree with this. The high/low options leading into high damage is what makes the game so nerve-wracking. Honestly 40% off 1 bar isnt that much different than street fighter 5 and its not like 13 where it leads to 75% damage.
I really should've prefaced all that by stating that I say this not as somebody who is any good at all or has deep knowledge about the game, it's just how it looks to me as a casual spectator.
I do agree that the high-low game is deadly and that that creates excitement, but I guess what bothers me is that d.LK hitconfirm is just universally such a good go-to option. It's not just effective in a high-low game, it's effective in so many situations! Then again, the part of me that complains about how I'd rather not have to spend a lot of time learning combos is screaming "doesn't exactly solve the problem of not needing to spend a lot of time learning combos?!", and I can't help but agree.
Still, in SFV, hit confirms off of d.LK-type moves with CA might deal 40%, but that's more like the KOFXIV version of d.LK comboing into a Climax, meter-wise. d.LK into "one bar" EX tends not to deal 40% AFAIK. There are plenty of d.LK combos in SFV, and I'm not at all going to underplay the prevalence of short short super in some of my favourite SF games like 3S.
Clockw0rk's point for Marvel applies here too about how even if you one touch kill a character you really only did 33% of your opponents total health. The damage in marvel/kof doesn't feel so crazy when I think about it that way
If anything, in Marvel it's worth a lot more than 33% because it also results in the loss of utility and possibly team integrity. If the Doom assist gets sniped, that's devastating to a Strider/Doom team in MvC2 and a substantial loss to a Morrigan/Doom team in MvC3. Imagine if a Phoenix team loses Phoenix off a snap-in: even with Dark Phoenix's life counted in, she probably isn't 33% of the team's total life, but she absolutely is the linchpin of the team's strategy.
If it helps ill say this:d.lk is not the quickest normal, its typically close c or close d (universally). D.lk starters also do far less damage and at the start of a combo it scales it way worse.
Its an option when your opponent is terrified of hop pressure which more often than not is... all the time when youre fighting good players.
Also keep in mind empty hop d.lk gets blown up by st.lp and cl.c or d, and if youre an asshole like terry cr.d can antiair at the right spacing.
In 13 d.lk wasnt universally good for all characters. For example, k' got shit damage midscreen off d.lk unless he used meter and his hd confirm off d.lk required hd bypass which is a pretty difficult technique. I think the choice in 14 to allow lots of characters to get decent damage off low normals was a purposeful design choice designed to give more characters options which is arguably more player friendly.
Regarding its entertainment value? Kof has always been a niche game and even I hate how long tournaments last. 13 sometimes felt boring bc of the your turn/my turn nature of watching successive long combos and the lack of unique characters used in 13 and 14 dont help. I honestly cant blame someone for finding tournament footage boring bc it very often is.
Man whatever input changes they made feels real noticeable to me in KoF. I can be way less meticulous with my super motions and still have them come out. Feels real good!
I'm surprised that a proven tournament character like Benimaru came away with literally just a buff, while King got a ton of nerfs.
Mian getting meter gain nerf is fair.
Choi got literally a page of buffs! Will we enter the era of Mian/Choi the-ground-is-lava teams?
I'm surprised that a proven tournament character like Benimaru came away with literally just a buff, while King got a ton of nerfs.
Mian getting meter gain nerf is fair.
Choi got literally a page of buffs! Will we enter the era of Mian/Choi the-ground-is-lava teams?
To me it seems like they nerfed the braindead stuff more than anything.
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I saw nelson get a bunch of damage buffs and an invincibility buff on certain versions of his command dash, now I just have to find time to play
ive been working on changing my meter usage up and its paying off
i had a habit of wasting meter on pointless EX fireballs and EX shoryus, but now I'm working for critical arts and practicing actually confirming them in real matches... i think i've confirmed into CA more times today in matches than I have in my whole life combined
Nah I just stumbled upon that and thought it was neat. Haven't really put time into KoF at all since we played. Just done some Shun'Ei practice. I dunno what it is with that guy but I just itch to play him from time to time!
Swapped out the square gate for an octo gate, and added an extender to the joystick so I can get my oaf hand around it more comfortably.
A+ would cavalierly rip open a hundred dollar fiddly joystick again
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Honestly I was kind of eyeing a bat top...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing
Xiao Hai used it to supreme effect with his incredible sense of spacing and timing, punishing all kinds of things that might otherwise seem like low-risk approaches. Over and over again he did that with K' and Mai. Now, Xiao Hai is an absolute monster at KOF, which is of course a difference-maker when it comes to how effectively he can utilize it, but still, it was a defining feature of his top 8, and eventually championship, performance.
Mian seems to be really polarizing in the viewership. I love watching Mian, because she has an offense and approach that is like a combination of SamSho 5's Yunfei and KOF's Seth (alternatively: like a character from Divekick on steroids) that is entirely unique in the game, and defeating it is totally possible with a combination of good reactions and pattern recognition. Definitely a lot of the viewship thinks it looks like total BS, though.
I feel the same way about Nakoruru mirrors. Her tools are so powerful/BS that when pitted against herself there's a unique and sometimes silly game that arises. She doesn't actually get free rushdown on herself, nor can she easily out-turtle herself.
People on facebook are already translating:
- Button config glitch is fixed (this is when sometimes button config defaulted back to the profile's preferences).
- Fuzzy guard is gone
- No more throw invincibilty on wake up rolls and teching (thank fucking god)
- Less input buffer for qcf x 2 inputs; more input buffer for hcf x 2 inputs
Robert nerfs:
- Robert: less dmg,stun/guard chip on cl.D
- smaller hit box on far D
- less invincile on heavy DP
- smaller hitbox on fireball (normal and EX)
- less damage on EX hcb +K
- less damage on EX ranbu
Terry Changes:
- Far
- light burn knuckle: More recovery
- fixed input priority for rising tackle and buster wolf
Situations with opposite inputs with key pad and analog stick now reverts to key pad inputs only (looks like they're fixing 2-direction guard).
Yeah I can't agree with this. The high/low options leading into high damage is what makes the game so nerve-wracking. Honestly 40% off 1 bar isnt that much different than street fighter 5 and its not like 13 where it leads to 75% damage.
Yeah, I'm ~6’5", and I've had a hell of a time with sticks. I really cannot recommend the hitbox form factor enough.
However, I've grown a little more accustomed to stick lately. It's about using less of your giant oaf hands, like holding a safety razor. I start with wineglass grip, turn my hand enough to anchor the blade of the palm on the surface of the stick. Then I move the balltop mostly with my fingertips. The key for me is the anchoring. Otherwise I lose my frame of reference and jump every time I want to fireball.
+frames on a well spaced light burn knuckle was like a lot of what made terry so good in this one
ain playing ky vs alot ofhigh level matchups
It's also satisfying as all heck! To me, at least
Clockw0rk's point for Marvel applies here too about how even if you one touch kill a character you really only did 33% of your opponents total health. The damage in marvel/kof doesn't feel so crazy when I think about it that way
I really should've prefaced all that by stating that I say this not as somebody who is any good at all or has deep knowledge about the game, it's just how it looks to me as a casual spectator.
I do agree that the high-low game is deadly and that that creates excitement, but I guess what bothers me is that d.LK hitconfirm is just universally such a good go-to option. It's not just effective in a high-low game, it's effective in so many situations! Then again, the part of me that complains about how I'd rather not have to spend a lot of time learning combos is screaming "doesn't exactly solve the problem of not needing to spend a lot of time learning combos?!", and I can't help but agree.
Still, in SFV, hit confirms off of d.LK-type moves with CA might deal 40%, but that's more like the KOFXIV version of d.LK comboing into a Climax, meter-wise. d.LK into "one bar" EX tends not to deal 40% AFAIK. There are plenty of d.LK combos in SFV, and I'm not at all going to underplay the prevalence of short short super in some of my favourite SF games like 3S.
If anything, in Marvel it's worth a lot more than 33% because it also results in the loss of utility and possibly team integrity. If the Doom assist gets sniped, that's devastating to a Strider/Doom team in MvC2 and a substantial loss to a Morrigan/Doom team in MvC3. Imagine if a Phoenix team loses Phoenix off a snap-in: even with Dark Phoenix's life counted in, she probably isn't 33% of the team's total life, but she absolutely is the linchpin of the team's strategy.
Its an option when your opponent is terrified of hop pressure which more often than not is... all the time when youre fighting good players.
Also keep in mind empty hop d.lk gets blown up by st.lp and cl.c or d, and if youre an asshole like terry cr.d can antiair at the right spacing.
In 13 d.lk wasnt universally good for all characters. For example, k' got shit damage midscreen off d.lk unless he used meter and his hd confirm off d.lk required hd bypass which is a pretty difficult technique. I think the choice in 14 to allow lots of characters to get decent damage off low normals was a purposeful design choice designed to give more characters options which is arguably more player friendly.
Regarding its entertainment value? Kof has always been a niche game and even I hate how long tournaments last. 13 sometimes felt boring bc of the your turn/my turn nature of watching successive long combos and the lack of unique characters used in 13 and 14 dont help. I honestly cant blame someone for finding tournament footage boring bc it very often is.
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Ban knob.
no one man should have all that power
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Didn't Antonov have the same throw break glitch as verse? Notes say they fixed verse but not antonov
Mian getting meter gain nerf is fair.
Choi got literally a page of buffs! Will we enter the era of Mian/Choi the-ground-is-lava teams?
To me it seems like they nerfed the braindead stuff more than anything.
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Watch me struggle to learn streaming! Point and laugh!
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You should do something relaxing. Turn on your local NBC affiliate and see what's on between 9 - 11 EST.
This is real good.
The fucking meaty headbutt loops are so good, the sideswitch midscreen upfireball combo at 1:46 is SICK.
i had a habit of wasting meter on pointless EX fireballs and EX shoryus, but now I'm working for critical arts and practicing actually confirming them in real matches... i think i've confirmed into CA more times today in matches than I have in my whole life combined
A+ would cavalierly rip open a hundred dollar fiddly joystick again
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing