Nothing infuriates me faster than chefs talking about their rich people food.
Most folk in the industry don't actually make all that much and tend to save up to have these foods as experience dinners instead of going to a concert or buying a videogame console.
Nothing infuriates me faster than chefs talking about their rich people food.
Most folk in the industry don't actually make all that much and tend to save up to have these foods as experience dinners instead of going to a concert or buying a videogame console.
This is less infuriating and I can see the appeal of doing so, especially considering this isn't the most expensive or outrageous example they've had.
Nothing infuriates me faster than chefs talking about their rich people food.
Why?
Some items cost more to produce than others. Some chefs are always on the hunt for the ultimate flavor experience. Hence, sometimes their food experiments cost a shitload.
On the other hand one thing Worth It is good at is finding low-cost places that really make their limited resources work for them.
I don't know I guess that's true.
I just don't see why anyone would eat a one bite taco that costs $47 dollars, like the fact that a market exists for that kind of food is really what makes me angry.
The low cost places always look so much better to me anyway, but I like simple straight forward foods that are still prepared with love and attention to detail. Trying to perfect what can be done with simple ingredients and please anyone who comes by rather than trying to throw a bunch of fancy stuff together to try to impress only the people who can afford it.
I suppose I'm not mad that a chef or a restaurant would make a 47 dollar taco, if someone wants it and is able and willing to pay, good on them for filling that niche. I'm mad at the economic conditions that make people think that is something that they need to eat as a status symbol.
The thing is. Generally people DON'T eat this as a status symbol (the exception being the idiotic habit of adding gold to food items. That's ridiculous). They eat it because it's a tasting experience. Worth It tends to not visit the "It's expensive because it's supposed to be expensive" but instead the places which serve gastronomic experiences.
P.S: Over here the "Stockholm-brats" have an annoying habit called "Vaska" (verb form of "the sink". So it's sort of "using the sink to do something") where they order expensive champagne, then ask the bartender to pour it down the sink. Now that's ordering stuff just as a status symbol, and it enrages the fuck out of me because it's so stupid.
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"The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Nothing infuriates me faster than chefs talking about their rich people food.
Why?
Some items cost more to produce than others. Some chefs are always on the hunt for the ultimate flavor experience. Hence, sometimes their food experiments cost a shitload.
On the other hand one thing Worth It is good at is finding low-cost places that really make their limited resources work for them.
I don't know I guess that's true.
I just don't see why anyone would eat a one bite taco that costs $47 dollars, like the fact that a market exists for that kind of food is really what makes me angry.
The low cost places always look so much better to me anyway, but I like simple straight forward foods that are still prepared with love and attention to detail. Trying to perfect what can be done with simple ingredients and please anyone who comes by rather than trying to throw a bunch of fancy stuff together to try to impress only the people who can afford it.
I suppose I'm not mad that a chef or a restaurant would make a 47 dollar taco, if someone wants it and is able and willing to pay, good on them for filling that niche. I'm mad at the economic conditions that make people think that is something that they need to eat as a status symbol.
The thing is. Generally people DON'T eat this as a status symbol (the exception being the idiotic habit of adding gold to food items. That's ridiculous). They eat it because it's a tasting experience. Worth It tends to not visit the "It's expensive because it's supposed to be expensive" but instead the places which serve gastronomic experiences.
P.S: Over here the "Stockholm-brats" have an annoying habit called "Vaska" (verb form of "the sink". So it's sort of "using the sink to do something") where they order expensive champagne, then ask the bartender to pour it down the sink. Now that's ordering stuff just as a status symbol, and it enrages the fuck out of me because it's so stupid.
Holy shit that is a stupid thing to do. Like it doesn't even really make sense.
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Nothing infuriates me faster than chefs talking about their rich people food.
Why?
Some items cost more to produce than others. Some chefs are always on the hunt for the ultimate flavor experience. Hence, sometimes their food experiments cost a shitload.
On the other hand one thing Worth It is good at is finding low-cost places that really make their limited resources work for them.
I don't know I guess that's true.
I just don't see why anyone would eat a one bite taco that costs $47 dollars, like the fact that a market exists for that kind of food is really what makes me angry.
The low cost places always look so much better to me anyway, but I like simple straight forward foods that are still prepared with love and attention to detail. Trying to perfect what can be done with simple ingredients and please anyone who comes by rather than trying to throw a bunch of fancy stuff together to try to impress only the people who can afford it.
I suppose I'm not mad that a chef or a restaurant would make a 47 dollar taco, if someone wants it and is able and willing to pay, good on them for filling that niche. I'm mad at the economic conditions that make people think that is something that they need to eat as a status symbol.
Disclaimer: people can spend their money how they want. I'm not their mom, I'm not their priest, and I got no authority to shame them for what makes them happy.
That being said, I hate a $47 taco because to get to that price point, you have to use ingredients that are expensive because they're rare, not because they're better. The caviar on that taco is the perfect example. The caviar market isn't priced based on which fish eggs are tastiest, but on how hard the fish eggs are to find. The chef even said that this particular caviar was more expensive because the fish it comes from is rare. In this kind of market, it doesn't matter whether salmon roe is more delicious, because salmon roe is easily produced in bulk. So at this point, you're spending more money just to spend more money.
On a personal level, it just angries up my blood because of the Dust Bowl Woody Guthrie socialist in me. For most of my life, saving money on food has been an essential survival skill. Growing up, I raised cattle who became ground beef with bone chips in it because the sober meat processor charged too much. The last time I really broke down and cried was at 5 AM in 2012, because a mouse had chewed into half the food in the pantry and we'd been grocery shopping with a calculator and I didn't have anything to make my wife breakfast with before we went to work. And even though I can now afford really fancy cheese, I know that there's way more people out there who are likely to cry over a bag of oatmeal with mouse piss in it than people who can afford a caviar taco.
I admit it's weird. I can see spending stupid amounts of money on a Kobe steak, because I can conceive of a really expensive way to raise a cow that results in superior beef. I don't care if you spend half a million on a sports car or ten million on a mansion, but 47 bucks for a caviar taco just taps into a really irrational anger in me.
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I mean, I have had a super expensive meal that was so amazing I thought a wizard had made it, so I can understand spending a lot on, you know, actually good food.
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I mean, I have had a super expensive meal that was so amazing I thought a wizard had made it, so I can understand spending a lot on, you know, actually good food.
Totally. If you graphed the quality difference between the cheapest possible food (I'm imagining generic brand potted meat here) and the most expensive possible food (gold-leaf truffles that for some bullshit reason required a thousand hours of delicate labor to produce) the line would shoot up pretty steadily for quite a while. There are some expensive meals that are basically in a different culinary universe from cheap fast food. Then, once you start getting into gold leaf and caviar, it would plateau and stay more or less the same forever. I think most of the expensive options in Is It Worth It tend to be fairly far along the plateau.
I mean, I have had a super expensive meal that was so amazing I thought a wizard had made it, so I can understand spending a lot on, you know, actually good food.
Totally. If you graphed the quality difference between the cheapest possible food (I'm imagining generic brand potted meat here) and the most expensive possible food (gold-leaf truffles that for some bullshit reason required a thousand hours of delicate labor to produce) the line would shoot up pretty steadily for quite a while. There are some expensive meals that are basically in a different culinary universe from cheap fast food. Then, once you start getting into gold leaf and caviar, it would plateau and stay more or less the same forever. I think most of the expensive options in Is It Worth It tend to be fairly far along the plateau.
The taste between different sorts of caviar can be pretty large though. Salmon caviar for example is like a completely different food compared to lumpfish caviar (two pretty cheap variants).
So lets talk a bit about caviar.
The four most expensive types of Caviar are from the Sturgeons around the caspian sea, Sterlet, Beluga, Osetra and Sevruga caviar. All of these taste different.
All of them are also produced from farmed fish to a great extent in the US or other countries (but it's still expensive since sturgeons are not ideal fish, at all, for food production with fairly strict requirements in terms of diet and habitat). The lightly salted modern product (malossol) favored by gastronomers isn't very suited to storage either (a week after processing in general. Caviar shelflife can be extended by pasteurization or extra salting, but all of this interfers with the taste).
Sterlet and Sevruga caviar taste fairly similar and can be substituted with cheaper alternatives such as american sturgeon.
Beluga caviar is relatively similar to Paddlefish caviar, and can be substituted by that to retain a very similar taste (but not really consistency or colour)
Osetra caviar. No substitute. Really. I haven't tasted it myself, but pretty much all gastronomers agree that no other form of caviar replicates its fruitier and nuttier flavor (while retaining the light sea saltiness of caviar). As a food ingredient it's unique.
In this case the Osetra Sasanian royal caviar (malossol) is certainly expensive, possibly the most expensive ethical caviar you can eat, but it's farmed on Iranian farms where a combination of habitat and diet produce an identical taste to wild osetra caviar, and shipped in by air (over night) to avoid quality degradation (due to shelf-life)
P.S: Are you frightened by the fact that all of this (except the facts specific to Osetra sasanian royal caviar) comes out of my memory? I am. It's just pouring out of the archive of Library of Useless Information.
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Damn. That's a lot of fish egg facts to just have in your noggin.
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(to be honest, more wizards should become chefs)
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The Pork Futures Warehouse is a product of the Disc's general atmosphere of magic and Ankh-Morpork's general atmosphere of excessive literalism. The trading in pork futures – pork which does not exist yet – led to the construction of a warehouse in which to store it until it does. Pig carcasses can be seen hanging from its ceiling, semitransparent and unreal.
David Blaine: I'm going to cook this meat by putting it under my saddle and ride for THREE MONTHS. Come back in 4 months for your order.
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Nothing infuriates me faster than chefs talking about their rich people food.
Why?
Some items cost more to produce than others. Some chefs are always on the hunt for the ultimate flavor experience. Hence, sometimes their food experiments cost a shitload.
On the other hand one thing Worth It is good at is finding low-cost places that really make their limited resources work for them.
I don't know I guess that's true.
I just don't see why anyone would eat a one bite taco that costs $47 dollars, like the fact that a market exists for that kind of food is really what makes me angry.
Nothing infuriates me faster than chefs talking about their rich people food.
Why?
Some items cost more to produce than others. Some chefs are always on the hunt for the ultimate flavor experience. Hence, sometimes their food experiments cost a shitload.
On the other hand one thing Worth It is good at is finding low-cost places that really make their limited resources work for them.
I don't know I guess that's true.
I just don't see why anyone would eat a one bite taco that costs $47 dollars, like the fact that a market exists for that kind of food is really what makes me angry.
How about spending $200 on overwatch skins
Or rather, trying to spend $200 on overwatch skins, but just getting a bunch of sprays and emotes.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Same reason as the whale: "beluga" just means "white" in Russian, and mature beluga sturgeon are very pale fish. So they named it "white sturgeon."
Actually "big white", but the -uga suffix is obsolete.
Funny thing is that while both the names of the Beluga sturgeon and Beluga whale have been loaned from russian, in russian they're pronounced and spelled differently today (and have been since the leninist language reforms). The name of the sturgeon is the same archaic version, but the whale is pronounced as Belukha, which afaik is russian for white whale.
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SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND THUND-oh, I'm sorry, not sure what came over me there
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Hah hah, oh man. I just listened to that song for the first time, after years of seeing that comic. Metal is definitely not for me, to just a comical extent. Like, the lyrics suggest that there's a joke I should be getting, but the vocals are like "No, this shit is super serious."
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Hah hah, oh man. I just listened to that song for the first time, after years of seeing that comic. Metal is definitely not for me, to just a comical extent. Like, the lyrics suggest that there's a joke I should be getting, but the vocals are like "No, this shit is super serious."
That is, itself, the joke.
There's charm to approaching silly or over-the-top themes with complete seriousness and sincerity
Hah hah, oh man. I just listened to that song for the first time, after years of seeing that comic. Metal is definitely not for me, to just a comical extent. Like, the lyrics suggest that there's a joke I should be getting, but the vocals are like "No, this shit is super serious."
That is, itself, the joke.
There's charm to approaching silly or over-the-top themes with complete seriousness and sincerity
I can totally appreciate that. Without actually enjoying it.
Hah hah, oh man. I just listened to that song for the first time, after years of seeing that comic. Metal is definitely not for me, to just a comical extent. Like, the lyrics suggest that there's a joke I should be getting, but the vocals are like "No, this shit is super serious."
That is, itself, the joke.
There's charm to approaching silly or over-the-top themes with complete seriousness and sincerity
I can totally appreciate that. Without actually enjoying it.
If you like the music but not the lyrics, I think you might like Babymetal.
I mean, I have had a super expensive meal that was so amazing I thought a wizard had made it, so I can understand spending a lot on, you know, actually good food.
Totally. If you graphed the quality difference between the cheapest possible food (I'm imagining generic brand potted meat here) and the most expensive possible food (gold-leaf truffles that for some bullshit reason required a thousand hours of delicate labor to produce) the line would shoot up pretty steadily for quite a while. There are some expensive meals that are basically in a different culinary universe from cheap fast food. Then, once you start getting into gold leaf and caviar, it would plateau and stay more or less the same forever. I think most of the expensive options in Is It Worth It tend to be fairly far along the plateau.
I think this really came across in the cake episode.
Like, the mid tier cake was a layered chocolate cake that looked delicious, and the top tier cake was a work of art that you could eat.
You weren't paying for the cake on the top tier there, you were paying for the artist(s) who designed and built your cake.
Regarding the taco episode, I don't know that I would call that a taco. I mean, it looked vaguely like a taco, but was it really a taco? The shell was a potato chip. Doesn't that violate some basic principle of taco-dom?
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Thinking about Goku's conversation with Chi-Chi, the former's heroic sacrifice is going to be heartbreaking if played right. That and Gohan's rage, I cannot wait for those scenes.
You remember how he dies, right?
That is going to be comedy gold.
It was, to be honest, pretty hilarious in the original version.
They've never really played death scenes straight in this series, except maybe in Future Trunk's story.
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Most folk in the industry don't actually make all that much and tend to save up to have these foods as experience dinners instead of going to a concert or buying a videogame console.
This is less infuriating and I can see the appeal of doing so, especially considering this isn't the most expensive or outrageous example they've had.
The thing is. Generally people DON'T eat this as a status symbol (the exception being the idiotic habit of adding gold to food items. That's ridiculous). They eat it because it's a tasting experience. Worth It tends to not visit the "It's expensive because it's supposed to be expensive" but instead the places which serve gastronomic experiences.
P.S: Over here the "Stockholm-brats" have an annoying habit called "Vaska" (verb form of "the sink". So it's sort of "using the sink to do something") where they order expensive champagne, then ask the bartender to pour it down the sink. Now that's ordering stuff just as a status symbol, and it enrages the fuck out of me because it's so stupid.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Holy shit that is a stupid thing to do. Like it doesn't even really make sense.
Disclaimer: people can spend their money how they want. I'm not their mom, I'm not their priest, and I got no authority to shame them for what makes them happy.
That being said, I hate a $47 taco because to get to that price point, you have to use ingredients that are expensive because they're rare, not because they're better. The caviar on that taco is the perfect example. The caviar market isn't priced based on which fish eggs are tastiest, but on how hard the fish eggs are to find. The chef even said that this particular caviar was more expensive because the fish it comes from is rare. In this kind of market, it doesn't matter whether salmon roe is more delicious, because salmon roe is easily produced in bulk. So at this point, you're spending more money just to spend more money.
On a personal level, it just angries up my blood because of the Dust Bowl Woody Guthrie socialist in me. For most of my life, saving money on food has been an essential survival skill. Growing up, I raised cattle who became ground beef with bone chips in it because the sober meat processor charged too much. The last time I really broke down and cried was at 5 AM in 2012, because a mouse had chewed into half the food in the pantry and we'd been grocery shopping with a calculator and I didn't have anything to make my wife breakfast with before we went to work. And even though I can now afford really fancy cheese, I know that there's way more people out there who are likely to cry over a bag of oatmeal with mouse piss in it than people who can afford a caviar taco.
I admit it's weird. I can see spending stupid amounts of money on a Kobe steak, because I can conceive of a really expensive way to raise a cow that results in superior beef. I don't care if you spend half a million on a sports car or ten million on a mansion, but 47 bucks for a caviar taco just taps into a really irrational anger in me.
Totally. If you graphed the quality difference between the cheapest possible food (I'm imagining generic brand potted meat here) and the most expensive possible food (gold-leaf truffles that for some bullshit reason required a thousand hours of delicate labor to produce) the line would shoot up pretty steadily for quite a while. There are some expensive meals that are basically in a different culinary universe from cheap fast food. Then, once you start getting into gold leaf and caviar, it would plateau and stay more or less the same forever. I think most of the expensive options in Is It Worth It tend to be fairly far along the plateau.
The taste between different sorts of caviar can be pretty large though. Salmon caviar for example is like a completely different food compared to lumpfish caviar (two pretty cheap variants).
So lets talk a bit about caviar.
The four most expensive types of Caviar are from the Sturgeons around the caspian sea, Sterlet, Beluga, Osetra and Sevruga caviar. All of these taste different.
All of them are also produced from farmed fish to a great extent in the US or other countries (but it's still expensive since sturgeons are not ideal fish, at all, for food production with fairly strict requirements in terms of diet and habitat). The lightly salted modern product (malossol) favored by gastronomers isn't very suited to storage either (a week after processing in general. Caviar shelflife can be extended by pasteurization or extra salting, but all of this interfers with the taste).
Sterlet and Sevruga caviar taste fairly similar and can be substituted with cheaper alternatives such as american sturgeon.
Beluga caviar is relatively similar to Paddlefish caviar, and can be substituted by that to retain a very similar taste (but not really consistency or colour)
Osetra caviar. No substitute. Really. I haven't tasted it myself, but pretty much all gastronomers agree that no other form of caviar replicates its fruitier and nuttier flavor (while retaining the light sea saltiness of caviar). As a food ingredient it's unique.
In this case the Osetra Sasanian royal caviar (malossol) is certainly expensive, possibly the most expensive ethical caviar you can eat, but it's farmed on Iranian farms where a combination of habitat and diet produce an identical taste to wild osetra caviar, and shipped in by air (over night) to avoid quality degradation (due to shelf-life)
P.S: Are you frightened by the fact that all of this (except the facts specific to Osetra sasanian royal caviar) comes out of my memory? I am. It's just pouring out of the archive of Library of Useless Information.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Yeah cause I definitley want to find out when I'm on the toilet that the chili I ate was made with haunted beef
Yeah, much better to use Future Pork
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I mean, it sounds like Outback was already using haunted beef if we go by the statements of this thread!
I really wonder how that tasted? How was it prepared outside of horseback? and so on
How about spending $200 on overwatch skins
what's the deal with beluga caviar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beluga_(sturgeon)
they named a fish beluga
Or rather, trying to spend $200 on overwatch skins, but just getting a bunch of sprays and emotes.
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but why though
...why not?
People give all sorts of names to things.
Same reason as the whale: "beluga" just means "white" in Russian, and mature beluga sturgeon are very pale fish. So they named it "white sturgeon."
No, Fish Beluga is the brother of that actor from Blues Brothers and Animal House
Actually "big white", but the -uga suffix is obsolete.
Funny thing is that while both the names of the Beluga sturgeon and Beluga whale have been loaned from russian, in russian they're pronounced and spelled differently today (and have been since the leninist language reforms). The name of the sturgeon is the same archaic version, but the whale is pronounced as Belukha, which afaik is russian for white whale.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
That is, itself, the joke.
There's charm to approaching silly or over-the-top themes with complete seriousness and sincerity
They have very fond memories of that fish!
I can totally appreciate that. Without actually enjoying it.
If you like the music but not the lyrics, I think you might like Babymetal.
I think this really came across in the cake episode.
Like, the mid tier cake was a layered chocolate cake that looked delicious, and the top tier cake was a work of art that you could eat.
You weren't paying for the cake on the top tier there, you were paying for the artist(s) who designed and built your cake.
Regarding the taco episode, I don't know that I would call that a taco. I mean, it looked vaguely like a taco, but was it really a taco? The shell was a potato chip. Doesn't that violate some basic principle of taco-dom?
That is going to be comedy gold.
It was, to be honest, pretty hilarious in the original version.
They've never really played death scenes straight in this series, except maybe in Future Trunk's story.
God I learned that last one HARD my first ever time GMing.
6:52 what the fuuuuuck