So I'm bringing this old thread up front again because....well...I've got no sense of decency.
I'm merely wondering when new units spawn so I can hire them. I expected it to work like HoMaM so that I would get new units every daybreak but no dice. Do they ever respawn?
Also, damn fine game. I can see my whole weekend being destroyed because of this
units don't respawn. Some places will "restock" or get new units as you finish quests and such. The only unlimited supply units will have a "HORDE" in place of their number. If you run out of units to buy, you'll have to use Sacrifice to get more of that particular unit.
At level 2 with all three of the character types, still undecided as to which I prefer, although nuking with wizard spells is fun.
Mindcontrol enemy manz and sacrifice them to the dark gods!
This sounds awesome. I hope I don't have to go too far without finding the scroll.
Also; is there a level cap?
Not that I've found. But there are a limited number of fights in the game. It's really not a bad idea to kill _everything_ you can BUT keep in mind: a) Limited number of things to recruit in the game and b) You will encounter shit you cannot hope to kill until much later. Knowing when to fight and when to run the hell around an encounter is a big deal.
So I got myself a copy of this game. Would someone mind giving me a few pointers in how the different classes play and what you should focus on. Any general gameplay hints would be appreciated as well.
So I got myself a copy of this game. Would someone mind giving me a few pointers in how the different classes play and what you should focus on. Any general gameplay hints would be appreciated as well.
Skill-wise, everything is kinda obvious. Depending on your class will decide what skill tree you spend the most time in. Wizards get more mind runes so they'll have better magic, etc. Warriors tend to have (slightly) larger armies and better rage abilitis/attacks. Paladins.... suck Honestly, I never really saw the point in playing a Paladin. They do get rez from the start though, so that's nice.
Aside from the mind tree, it's generally a good idea to go as high as possible in every tree you can. The top tier skill for mind/warriors are pretty good. Unless you're a paladin, I wouldn't bother going to the top of the mind tree. I'd also recommend sticking with 1 point in every skill until you do hit the top. Most of the skills have diminishing returns after the first point, so you aren't missing out on much.
Never use the last scroll for a spell unless you've learned it or know you don't want to learn it ever. I don't think I've ever used scrolls for combat... seemed better to sell them off.
For sanity sake, stick with unit types that you can buy in the surrounding area (early on anyway). Without sascrifice/rez/etc, replenishing units is a fucking chore.
Very very minor spoilers:
do *only* the main quest(s) right at the start and try to avoid enemies until you unlock rage abilities. The sooner you unlock them, the sooner you can start leveling them up. The first two spirits can be unlocked as soon as you unlock the rage skills (you'll know when).
-Don't spend crystals to scribe/upgrade spells you rarely/never use. You get a glut of crystals in the start/middle game but near the end when you want to be scribing and upgrading the awesome end game spells, you'll regret wasting them.
-Its better to go for +attack/defense/mana stats rather than +leadership when levelling up. The leadership boost might look tempting, but it becomes trivial later on while attack/defense/mana is always useful.
- Use your rage guys as often as possible to level them up.
So this game is FINALLY getting a release in the UK. Release date is the 16th of January as given by play.com, not really seeing anyone else stocking it so far. Maybe it's just going to be play.com.
Anyway, what's surprising is that the game's getting a special edition release, and for the price it's not too bad. Regular release is £25, Special Edition is £30.
SE details:
# Collector's Edition contents:
# King's Bounty: The Legend game
# "The Art of King's Bounty: The Legend" artbook
# Bonus DVD
# T-Shirt
# Poster (double faced)
# Bonus DVD contents:
# "Tales from Endoria" - 8 episodes
# Game trailers
# Artwork
# Web Fankit
# Original soundtrack
# Exclusive Katauri interview
Can anybody think of any other recent games in this genre? I love my old school games like Shining force 2 but those graphics make my eyes bleed at this point.
This game looks closer to Heroes of Might and Magic than to SF to me. You could try HoMM 5 or 3, there are probably demos of both. People will say that 3 is the best, but 5 is also great, and might be a better pick if you're into graphics and all that jazz.
Disciples II still looks pretty good. I picked up the Gold compilation (original + 3 expansions) for $7.50 at Target the other day (on Steam too I believe, although not that cheap). Gameplay is great, although I gave up on it beofre finishing the single player game because getting your Hero, who carries over from one campaign level to the next, to the level cap took forever and a day (six realtime hours per level at one point.)
Just wanted to bump this, since I got this in a handout at the Idle Thumbs meetup at PAX. I've been playing this straight for the last week. It reminds me of the addictive qualities of first playing through WoW, exploring an unknown world with lot of things to see and avoid.
Also, finally beat the game today as a mage. Double-casting is really broken, though I just geyser'd and fire rain'd everything and didn't use the more imaginative things I've read so far. Anyways, really excited for the exp pack, which comes out next month.
Since this is bumped anyway, does anyone else have graphical glitches during battles? It'll hang for half a second, and there are black artifacts along the grid lines. It mostly happens when I move the camera, but occasionally when units move too.
I love this game to death. My only real gripe with it is that the randomly generated store items that get placed in the first few towns are a real crapshoot. Sometimes you get loaded with awesome items that are perfect for you class and you end up using most of the game, and sometimes you get nothing but junk and end up wearing leather armor all the way into the dwarf mines, since almost no one sells anything past the starting area.
I'd snap up Armored Princess in a second, if I hadn't already blown my game budget for the next month or two. I'll be looking to pick it up down the road, though.
The random aspect of the game was the best and worst thing about it. Getting Evil Beholders/Royal Snakes almost right off the bat = VERY easy early game. On the other hand, you could go FOREVER without sacrifice, a good AoE spell, etc. and have an extremely annoying mid-game.
The end game regardless ends up being extremely easy.
Oh, and Mages were OP as hell. Double cast is leagues better than what warriors get. Paladins just plain suck :[
Oh hey, I completely forgot about this. It looks like it came out, is it worth getting? Apparently there's an expansion, too?
More of a stand-alone sequel than expansion.
In any event, I'm mixed on how I feel about King's Bounty. Loved it when I first started playing, but hit a wall about halfway through and just could not get back into it at all despite repeated attempts.
I'd suggest picking it up if you are a fan of the genre, and can get it for $10 or less. And bypassing the sequel for now, as it's more expensive.
Oh hey, I completely forgot about this. It looks like it came out, is it worth getting? Apparently there's an expansion, too?
More of a stand-alone sequel than expansion.
In any event, I'm mixed on how I feel about King's Bounty. Loved it when I first started playing, but hit a wall about halfway through and just could not get back into it at all despite repeated attempts.
I'd suggest picking it up if you are a fan of the genre, and can get it for $10 or less. And bypassing the sequel for now, as it's more expensive.
Are there any balance changes? like, shops refiling, etc? Because that was the worst thing about the original: static amounts of recruitable creatures.
Saw the trailer for Armored Princess just now. Still wanna try it, despite never finishing the first game.
I too hit a wall, with some big boss fight that was just completely unfair. I had pretty much cleared the entire world of beasties and I'd still get my ass kicked.
Saw the trailer for Armored Princess just now. Still wanna try it, despite never finishing the first game.
I too hit a wall, with some big boss fight that was just completely unfair. I had pretty much cleared the entire world of beasties and I'd still get my ass kicked.
Oh hey, I completely forgot about this. It looks like it came out, is it worth getting? Apparently there's an expansion, too?
More of a stand-alone sequel than expansion.
In any event, I'm mixed on how I feel about King's Bounty. Loved it when I first started playing, but hit a wall about halfway through and just could not get back into it at all despite repeated attempts.
I'd suggest picking it up if you are a fan of the genre, and can get it for $10 or less. And bypassing the sequel for now, as it's more expensive.
Are there any balance changes? like, shops refiling, etc? Because that was the worst thing about the original: static amounts of recruitable creatures.
Haven't played it yet, but I read there's been a bunch of "balance" changes. I guess mages have *much* less leadership and talents have been heavily reworked. A lot of warrior talents seem innate now (like archer's now have that frost arrow skill without having to spend a talent point, you get 2 reserve spaces without having to put talents into it, etc).
I loved and hated the random recruitable creature aspect of the game. It made each playthrough sort of unique in it's own way. I remember my first run through the animal/farm guy near the beginning was selling royal vipers (or something) which was awesome. I wasn't so lucky my next time through, but I did get some evil beholders to spawn in the swamp early.
It certainly does suck though when you don't fine a decent aoe spell until you hit the islands though Or they keep tossing awesome units at you but at such low amounts (and pre-sacrifice or whatever) that you can't make a decent stack out of them.
I just went full on damage - mage. Most of my investment was in damage dealing spells. Never really used sacrifice, and rarely buffed when I could cause raw damage. Sometimes used slow to keep an enemy at bay whilst I whittled away at them.
To that end I focussed on getting my Int as high as possible (along with items to buff that), and used the necklace of firestorm for an extra 30% damage on fire spells. By the end Rain of Fire was causing something somewhere between 2000 and 4000 points of damage per cast, and I had taken double casting up to 3 turns. The whole point was neutralising their biggest threats before they could respond (I also took the bonus initiative skills from the Might tree so I could cast first).
Is the original worth picking up? Or maybe skip the original and aim for the sequel directly? I missed this when it came out last year.
Unless the balance changes in the sequel are very significant, I'd buy original when you can find it discounted. Otherwise, while enjoyable for a while it wasn't really something I'd recommend at full price, and the sequel will probably be up there for a while since it's brand new.
I really enjoy the game but I've got two problems with it, which is why I haven't picked it up in months.
The difficulty curve gets steeper as the game goes on, I'm on the pirate isles now and I've stopped playing because I can't get enough troops together to keep going. Finite amounts of troops suck.
A bigger problem, and the one that keeps me from trying to muscle through, is that the game keeps crashing. There seems to be a memory leak somewhere that brings down the cards. It can happen quickly or not for hours but always results in a video error.
Its a shame, despite the difficulty it's a fun game.
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I'm merely wondering when new units spawn so I can hire them. I expected it to work like HoMaM so that I would get new units every daybreak but no dice. Do they ever respawn?
Also, damn fine game. I can see my whole weekend being destroyed because of this
So I'm fucked
I'm guessing the sacrifice scroll is random like every other scroll
Thanks for the info.
In the event that you already knew about that though, here's information about some minor game nobody's heard about.
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/11/11/kings-blather-rps-dissects-an-armoured-princess/
New skills! Tamed pet dragon! A new bloodthirsty race of... ant-eaters? Can those even be said to have blood with which to thirst after?
Looking forward to more Russian RPG crazy awesome.
Outstanding. Amelie is the King's daughter from the first game, yes?
Also, pangolins aren't just anteaters. They're armored anteaters.
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Awesome. Though I hope they fix up the translation a bit this time.
At level 2 with all three of the character types, still undecided as to which I prefer, although nuking with wizard spells is fun.
Mindcontrol enemy manz and sacrifice them to the dark gods!
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
This sounds awesome. I hope I don't have to go too far without finding the scroll.
Also; is there a level cap?
Not that I've found. But there are a limited number of fights in the game. It's really not a bad idea to kill _everything_ you can BUT keep in mind: a) Limited number of things to recruit in the game and b) You will encounter shit you cannot hope to kill until much later. Knowing when to fight and when to run the hell around an encounter is a big deal.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
Skill-wise, everything is kinda obvious. Depending on your class will decide what skill tree you spend the most time in. Wizards get more mind runes so they'll have better magic, etc. Warriors tend to have (slightly) larger armies and better rage abilitis/attacks. Paladins.... suck
Aside from the mind tree, it's generally a good idea to go as high as possible in every tree you can. The top tier skill for mind/warriors are pretty good. Unless you're a paladin, I wouldn't bother going to the top of the mind tree. I'd also recommend sticking with 1 point in every skill until you do hit the top. Most of the skills have diminishing returns after the first point, so you aren't missing out on much.
Never use the last scroll for a spell unless you've learned it or know you don't want to learn it ever. I don't think I've ever used scrolls for combat... seemed better to sell them off.
For sanity sake, stick with unit types that you can buy in the surrounding area (early on anyway). Without sascrifice/rez/etc, replenishing units is a fucking chore.
Very very minor spoilers:
-Its better to go for +attack/defense/mana stats rather than +leadership when levelling up. The leadership boost might look tempting, but it becomes trivial later on while attack/defense/mana is always useful.
- Use your rage guys as often as possible to level them up.
Anyway, what's surprising is that the game's getting a special edition release, and for the price it's not too bad. Regular release is £25, Special Edition is £30.
SE details:
# Collector's Edition contents:
# King's Bounty: The Legend game
# "The Art of King's Bounty: The Legend" artbook
# Bonus DVD
# T-Shirt
# Poster (double faced)
# Bonus DVD contents:
# "Tales from Endoria" - 8 episodes
# Game trailers
# Artwork
# Web Fankit
# Original soundtrack
# Exclusive Katauri interview
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Also, finally beat the game today as a mage. Double-casting is really broken, though I just geyser'd and fire rain'd everything and didn't use the more imaginative things I've read so far. Anyways, really excited for the exp pack, which comes out next month.
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I'd snap up Armored Princess in a second, if I hadn't already blown my game budget for the next month or two. I'll be looking to pick it up down the road, though.
The end game regardless ends up being extremely easy.
Oh, and Mages were OP as hell. Double cast is leagues better than what warriors get. Paladins just plain suck :[
Good thing about King's Bounty, you can drop it for months at a time, and then just pick it right back up again and head for the nearest encounter.
Plus individual battles normally lasting less than 10 minutes each is good when you're strapped for time.
More of a stand-alone sequel than expansion.
In any event, I'm mixed on how I feel about King's Bounty. Loved it when I first started playing, but hit a wall about halfway through and just could not get back into it at all despite repeated attempts.
I'd suggest picking it up if you are a fan of the genre, and can get it for $10 or less. And bypassing the sequel for now, as it's more expensive.
Are there any balance changes? like, shops refiling, etc? Because that was the worst thing about the original: static amounts of recruitable creatures.
Currently playing: GW2 and TSW
I wonder how many bugs are still left in game.
I too hit a wall, with some big boss fight that was just completely unfair. I had pretty much cleared the entire world of beasties and I'd still get my ass kicked.
Which fight was it?
Haven't played it yet, but I read there's been a bunch of "balance" changes. I guess mages have *much* less leadership and talents have been heavily reworked. A lot of warrior talents seem innate now (like archer's now have that frost arrow skill without having to spend a talent point, you get 2 reserve spaces without having to put talents into it, etc).
I loved and hated the random recruitable creature aspect of the game. It made each playthrough sort of unique in it's own way. I remember my first run through the animal/farm guy near the beginning was selling royal vipers (or something) which was awesome. I wasn't so lucky my next time through, but I did get some evil beholders to spawn in the swamp early.
It certainly does suck though when you don't fine a decent aoe spell until you hit the islands though
To that end I focussed on getting my Int as high as possible (along with items to buff that), and used the necklace of firestorm for an extra 30% damage on fire spells. By the end Rain of Fire was causing something somewhere between 2000 and 4000 points of damage per cast, and I had taken double casting up to 3 turns. The whole point was neutralising their biggest threats before they could respond (I also took the bonus initiative skills from the Might tree so I could cast first).
Unless the balance changes in the sequel are very significant, I'd buy original when you can find it discounted. Otherwise, while enjoyable for a while it wasn't really something I'd recommend at full price, and the sequel will probably be up there for a while since it's brand new.
The difficulty curve gets steeper as the game goes on, I'm on the pirate isles now and I've stopped playing because I can't get enough troops together to keep going. Finite amounts of troops suck.
A bigger problem, and the one that keeps me from trying to muscle through, is that the game keeps crashing. There seems to be a memory leak somewhere that brings down the cards. It can happen quickly or not for hours but always results in a video error.
Its a shame, despite the difficulty it's a fun game.
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