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    SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I like the shift from the first ones, but is cementing a character in a story archetype the best alternative? I fear it might limit character development into a different role

    unless it would be possible to change your meta-trait over time



    edit: VVV spendid!

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    DE?ADDE?AD Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Well, characters are often pretty set into their roles, which is, I think a little less restricting than, say, being set into a genre - any role can participate easily in any genre's scene without much trouble.

    I would allow meta-trait changes with appropriate reason. In fact, I sort of like the idea that you can expend Special (likely to be renamed once I think of something better) to jump to another class - that fits really well with the whole Narrative Emphasis thing the system has.

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    DontShootToastersDontShootToasters the prettiest bulb at the ballRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    will it just be those seven traits, or are more in development?

    either way, hurray!

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    Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Sounds good to me!

    I think I already have a great character idea to either replace Jim after his unlikely death (hah) or for this new game when it starts

    albeit, he's a bit similar to Mori's character (hah), but I still think he's pretty great

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    SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    time for some updated stats while I sit at work!

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    Tommy 2602
    Squall 2593
    Vis 2543
    Dubh 2404
    DE?AD 2006
    Speed 2000
    Scarlet St. 1765
    Toasters 1575
    Anti 1518
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    Kro 1208
    Lock 1122
    Neo 1111
    Marsh 1100 (probably more, but he deletes his posts often so vOv)
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    Dux 547
    Fire Truck 409
    Bear 250
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    Cyense 185
    Natek 183
    Orik 144
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    Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    When the hell did Larlar post in here?

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    Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Also fyi I didn't send anyone cards.

    It's obviously Toasters.

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    What ever happened to Zanzibar?

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    Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    hahaha

    fuck yeah, lovin that graph

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    CyenseCyense Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I've got a couple ideas for a character when the next game comes around that I'm pretty sure I can alter well enough when more details on the setting arise, whenever that may be. Too early for anything solid on my part, though.

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    DE?AD wrote: »
    Changing the meta-traits around! The whole Action, Drama, Comedy, etc. thing is cool, but it actually works better if, instead we use more universal archetypes for the meta-traits - The Hero, The Wingman, The Tough, The Heart, The Brains, The Mentor, and the Mascot.

    The original Meta-Traits become a quality of the scene instead of the character.
    ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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    CyenseCyense Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    What

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I was looking forward to Genre Meta-Traits for characters, dang it

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Ooh, I wanna make a The Mentor.

    Just need a character idea...

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    DuxDux A host to DarknessRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Gonna try and break out of the Combat character mold. Maybe make The Heart, The Brains or The Mentor.

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    CyenseCyense Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I was looking forward to Genre Meta-Traits for characters, dang it

    Doesn't really seem like a huge transition. And with genres being part of the scene, it's not entirely lost. S'nobigdeal.

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Cyense wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I was looking forward to Genre Meta-Traits for characters, dang it

    Doesn't really seem like a huge transition. And with genres being part of the scene, it's not entirely lost. S'nobigdeal.
    It was unique. People tend to gravitate towards those roles on their own, they didn't need to be required. Oh well.

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    ShabootyShabooty Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    need a meta-trait for the sleazy guy in movies who not an antagonist but all the protagonists hate

    although that guy always ends up dying

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Cyense wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I was looking forward to Genre Meta-Traits for characters, dang it

    Doesn't really seem like a huge transition. And with genres being part of the scene, it's not entirely lost. S'nobigdeal.
    It was unique. People tend to gravitate towards those roles on their own, they didn't need to be required. Oh well.

    I kinda get what you're talking about. And anyway, certain archetypes don't really seem to fit in certain genres. I mean, who's going to be the "brains" in, say, a drama? That seems more like either an action or a comedy archetype.

    I dunno, maybe I'm talking out my ass, and I'm certainly thinking too much about it when RADlands is still only half over.

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Shabooty wrote: »
    need a meta-trait for the sleazy guy in movies who not an antagonist but all the protagonists hate

    although that guy always ends up dying

    ooooh

    You mean "The Shabooty"
    <3

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    DuxDux A host to DarknessRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Cyense wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I was looking forward to Genre Meta-Traits for characters, dang it

    Doesn't really seem like a huge transition. And with genres being part of the scene, it's not entirely lost. S'nobigdeal.
    It was unique. People tend to gravitate towards those roles on their own, they didn't need to be required. Oh well.

    I kinda get what you're talking about. And anyway, certain archetypes don't really seem to fit in certain genres. I mean, who's going to be the "brains" in, say, a drama? That seems more like either an action or a comedy archetype.

    I dunno, maybe I'm talking out my ass, and I'm certainly thinking too much about it when RADlands is still only half over.

    The Genre depends on the scene and someone who is The Brains of something can still very well have more depth than simply being "The Brains".

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Dux wrote: »
    Fire Truck wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    Cyense wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    I was looking forward to Genre Meta-Traits for characters, dang it

    Doesn't really seem like a huge transition. And with genres being part of the scene, it's not entirely lost. S'nobigdeal.
    It was unique. People tend to gravitate towards those roles on their own, they didn't need to be required. Oh well.

    I kinda get what you're talking about. And anyway, certain archetypes don't really seem to fit in certain genres. I mean, who's going to be the "brains" in, say, a drama? That seems more like either an action or a comedy archetype.

    I dunno, maybe I'm talking out my ass, and I'm certainly thinking too much about it when RADlands is still only half over.

    The Genre depends on the scene and someone who is The Brains of something can still very well have more depth than simply being "The Brains".

    Oh, I still think it's gonna be good, no matter the specifics of the system.

    Just shooting the shit.

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    DuxDux A host to DarknessRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Ah, Well, we'll see how it goes, won't we? I'm just going to wait till we get more details on the setting before pinning down a character.

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Pretty much. Like I said, RADlands is only half over.

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    DontShootToastersDontShootToasters the prettiest bulb at the ballRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    TVTropes: The RPG

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    DontShootToastersDontShootToasters the prettiest bulb at the ballRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Also regarding the meta-traits: making them into archetypes seems a lot more static, which is good, while a character's genre can still play a part in how you play them, and seems like a much better way to let them develop in a way you want

    Lil Chuck has been pretty comedic lately, but for his loyalty mission I'm assuming it will be a much more dramatic role for him to evolve into

    of course it's up to de?ad whether he still want's this to have any mechanical effect next game, but it wouldn't be very hard to say, giving a small hidden bonus to rolls depending on how well a character is fitting into the mood of the scene

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    DontShootToastersDontShootToasters the prettiest bulb at the ballRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    basically the only person who should give two ferts right now is de?ad, and we can worry about it more once we reach chapter 3, or later even

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    DontShootToastersDontShootToasters the prettiest bulb at the ballRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    woah wait a second I'm not speed racer

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    considering the fact that he was giving out the information, I figured he wanted to prompt discussion and gauge opinions. vOv

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    ShabootyShabooty Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    ok what the hell does vOv mean

    ain't look like no face I's ever seen

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    it's a shrug
    the v's are arms, the O is a head

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    Maybe it stands for a sad Birdo.

    EDIT: Oh, okay, I guess that makes sense, too.

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    DontShootToastersDontShootToasters the prettiest bulb at the ballRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    sad Birdo is a good idea for a backup character

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    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    TVTropes: The RPG

    This hole. It was made for me.

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    Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    gonna be the hero

    gonna be the hero so hard

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    AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    gonna be the hero

    gonna be the hero so hard
    I wanna try that too

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    SquallSquall hap cloud Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I love

    support roles

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    Fire TruckFire Truck I love my SELFRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    I think for my Mentor character, I'm going to reprise my last and favorite Deadlands character.

    Po Lee Hung, the opium-addicted Chinese railroad worker/kung fu master/only character with 7 ranks in the Ridicule skill.

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    Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    edited June 2010
    oh my god Fire Truck

    you need to do that

    just trust me on this it would work out so well

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    Viscount IslandsViscount Islands [INSERT SoKo HERE] ...it was the summer of my lifeRegistered User regular
    edited June 2010
    DE?AD wrote: »
    Changing the meta-traits around! The whole Action, Drama, Comedy, etc. thing is cool, but it actually works better if, instead we use more universal archetypes for the meta-traits - The Hero, The Wingman, The Tough, The Heart, The Brains, The Mentor, and the Mascot.

    The original Meta-Traits become a quality of the scene instead of the character.

    Yeah, see a concern I have with this is that when someone makes a character with a specific role in mind from the get-go, I dunno I can see certain characters not turning out well because of that. Like forced maybe?

    My prediction is that all the Hero characters will be the worst characters.

    Maybe you could apply meta-traits after having the characters play for a bit or something?

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