There's more joy and fun in the five minute montage of Christopher Reeve arresting criminals in his first night on patrol in Metropolis than in the whole of Man of Steel. God, so dour, so frowny.
Also Gene Hackman saying 'Otisberg' in increasing tones of disgust and outrage is one of my favourite things.
One criticism of Man of Steel I never got is that it's Superman's fault the fight in Metropolis probably killed so many people. Like he had any control over where that was gonna happen? Zod wanted to kill all humans, it's not like he could politely ask for a change of venues or anything.
When you compare the fight in Man of Steel to the Avengers it stands out a little more. A fair amount of time in the big, city smashing fight in the Avengers is devoted to the Avengers trying to minimize civilian casualties. Hell, most of Cap's screen time in that fight is exactly that. So yes, in that fight people likely died but there was clearly a heroic effort to prevent it. I don't recall Superman in Man of Steel doing that. It may be that I've just forgotten but it tends to build to the sense that the heroic aspect of Superman is discarded.
He did it, rarely. Under specific circumstances, they had to be right near him for instance.
I haven't rewatched it, so it's likely I just forgot it. It also doesn't help that Synder emphasized the power expended in the city fight. It gives it more of a sense of being brutal which apparently washed away any heroic contrast in my mind.
He does it once, practically under his breath about five people. It just doesn't occur to Snyder or the scriptwriter that he should.
One criticism of Man of Steel I never got is that it's Superman's fault the fight in Metropolis probably killed so many people. Like he had any control over where that was gonna happen? Zod wanted to kill all humans, it's not like he could politely ask for a change of venues or anything.
apparently it's a big thing in the comics that superman meticulously plans everything so that the twist at the end of the story was that even though it looks like the big bad has gotten the best of superman, SUPERMAN HAD PLANNED FOR THIS ALL ALONG
you see this a little at the end of superman 2, where he tricks zon + lex luthor to remove their own powers by throwing him in the briar patch.
anyways, the complaint is that superman should have seen this coming and should have somehow moved the fight to some uninhabited place, because that is what superman would do in the comic books
That is not the complaint. At least, I've never ever seen anyone say that. Superman should have maybe tried to move the fight because he's not retarded and knows that two of him going at each other will result in a levelled downtown area and saving the lives of innocents is what he's about.
I hated the movie. Zod was the dumbest guy in the universe. Terraform Earth so he can avoid a few weeks of headaches while he acclimatises and gain flight and laser beam eyes as an upside? Fuckwit.
i thought the point of terraforming earth was that zod was essentially programmed with the specific directive to protect krypton, and all that remained for him was to remake it as close as possible and repopulate it. like, his absolute allegiance to a people and a purpose - in contrast to superman's - was sort of the central theme in the movie.
it's not really clear why it had to be earth and not, say, mars i guess. but you know, it's a superhero movie. it's not like any of them are impossible to poke holes in.
>Getting into extended arguments about comic book movies
>Playing a lot of Destiny, like a lot of Destiny, like a lot of Destiny
>Getting mad about Wolverine's backstory
holy shit has anyone checked on Will lately?
is Frankie staying with her parents as Will posts on /r/kotakuinaction and poops in his once beautifully maintained margerita set
im worried about him
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my favourite part of those old paintings is how everybody is green because the cochineal used in the reds died over time leaving the green underpaint
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There's more joy and fun in the five minute montage of Christopher Reeve arresting criminals in his first night on patrol in Metropolis than in the whole of Man of Steel. God, so dour, so frowny.
Also Gene Hackman saying 'Otisberg' in increasing tones of disgust and outrage is one of my favourite things.
Stevemarks was talking about this the other night. About how they are trying to keep a gritty tone to keep it consistent with the Nolan movies and the use it to unify it but that it doesn't really work with Superman.
There's more joy and fun in the five minute montage of Christopher Reeve arresting criminals in his first night on patrol in Metropolis than in the whole of Man of Steel. God, so dour, so frowny.
Also Gene Hackman saying 'Otisberg' in increasing tones of disgust and outrage is one of my favourite things.
I don't know why WB is insistent that humor not be in their movies.
There's more joy and fun in the five minute montage of Christopher Reeve arresting criminals in his first night on patrol in Metropolis than in the whole of Man of Steel. God, so dour, so frowny.
Also Gene Hackman saying 'Otisberg' in increasing tones of disgust and outrage is one of my favourite things.
Stevemarks was talking about this the other night. About how they are trying to keep a gritty tone to keep it consistent with the Nolan movies and the use it to unify it but that it doesn't really work with Superman.
It was a very bad idea. And we'll be talking about it when they release Wonder Woman, and again if they release The Flash.
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There's more joy and fun in the five minute montage of Christopher Reeve arresting criminals in his first night on patrol in Metropolis than in the whole of Man of Steel. God, so dour, so frowny.
Also Gene Hackman saying 'Otisberg' in increasing tones of disgust and outrage is one of my favourite things.
Stevemarks was talking about this the other night. About how they are trying to keep a gritty tone to keep it consistent with the Nolan movies and the use it to unify it but that it doesn't really work with Superman.
It was a very bad idea. And we'll be talking about it when they release Wonder Woman, and again if they release The Flash.
Of course A Brief History of Time. Maybe Six Easy Pieces. Anything by Neil Degrasse Tyson (Death By Black Hole, The Pluto Files etc...)
brief history of time too far i think
i might throw him some maths books too like the history of zero or whatevs
but yeah the whatif book is a really good suggestion
Asimov's "On Numbers" is a good one
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You know a concept I really liked. The first half of Handcock.
I thought that story was gonna be a really solid watch. Shit super guy who is almost forced into redemption. And then it spiralled into shit with his origin and the guy's wife.
There's more joy and fun in the five minute montage of Christopher Reeve arresting criminals in his first night on patrol in Metropolis than in the whole of Man of Steel. God, so dour, so frowny.
Also Gene Hackman saying 'Otisberg' in increasing tones of disgust and outrage is one of my favourite things.
I don't know why WB is insistent that humor not be in their movies.
Some executive is a jaded orphan, and Batman and Superman are his outlets.
"My parents are gone, burn the world!" the franchise
question because I don't and have never read comics
do they retell origins when they start a new ... line or whatever of comics? if a new writer/artist comes in do they do they're own take on it?
watching spiderman become spiderman twice (oh my god so tiring TWO TIMES!!!!!) really doesn't blow my mind or bother me particularly. now, the fact that any given movie is bad is its own issue. but if someone awesome was taking over spiderman or whatever (like snyder taking superman) I am into the idea of watching their take on the origin. or at least, it doesn't seem to me an auto exclude/never watch/hate forever.
Sometimes they do. If they relaunch a book in a new continuity - like Marvel UniverseUltimate Marvel or DC's New 52 - they might tell a new version of the origin story.
They might do an abbreviated version of it. I don't remember which reboot it was (New 52, maybe?) but one of the Superman reboots condensed his origin to literally three large frames. (Edit: oh hey look at that there it is)
Marvel don't do reboots like DC. They do soft reboots mainly and still keep a lot of prior continuity in tact. In the comics the Mavrel universe is still the main universe when it began in the 60's, DC's on its umpteeth incarnation.
I meant "Ultimate Marvel" up there where I said "Marvel Universe." Herp derp.
I liked Ultimate Marvel a lot.
I'm a fan of the darker, more morally ambiguous stuff though.
I liked the way that the Ultimate stuff ended with the X-men. They extended the Ultimate Marvel stuff with the Ultimate Comics ____. The X men stuff was gewd.
Also, SKFM, you should totally read Red Son. It's amazing. It's literally the best Superman story I've ever been exposed to.
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covers with words on them seem so dated, like annunciation prints with the ugly ass text bubbles in early christian art
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Also Gene Hackman saying 'Otisberg' in increasing tones of disgust and outrage is one of my favourite things.
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superman 2: the aftermath
wherein superman spends most of his time flying between court appearances in various countries where he's trying to answer for his atrocities
He does it once, practically under his breath about five people. It just doesn't occur to Snyder or the scriptwriter that he should.
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and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
>Getting into extended arguments about comic book movies
>Playing a lot of Destiny, like a lot of Destiny, like a lot of Destiny
>Getting mad about Wolverine's backstory
holy shit has anyone checked on Will lately?
is Frankie staying with her parents as Will posts on /r/kotakuinaction and poops in his once beautifully maintained margerita set
im worried about him
Stevemarks was talking about this the other night. About how they are trying to keep a gritty tone to keep it consistent with the Nolan movies and the use it to unify it but that it doesn't really work with Superman.
@surrealitycheck
My boy (recently turned 13) really liked this book: http://whatif.xkcd.com/book/
Of course A Brief History of Time. Maybe Six Easy Pieces. Anything by Neil Degrasse Tyson (Death By Black Hole, The Pluto Files etc...)
I don't know why WB is insistent that humor not be in their movies.
i'm trying to convince chu to join the kurds
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
marvel makes movies where an anthropomorphic machine-gun-toting talking raccoon adjusts his crotch in slow motion
get dunk8d on dc
brief history of time too far i think
i might throw him some maths books too like the history of zero or whatevs
but yeah the whatif book is a really good suggestion
just like, leaving lois's house unlocked
oh yeah not everyone has a secret home in the antarctic that they have to fly to
putting shit on the top shelf where no one else can reach it
sitting on the couch watching tv while the house is in flames OH SHIT I didn't realize y'all were burning
It was a very bad idea. And we'll be talking about it when they release Wonder Woman, and again if they release The Flash.
Dark Barry Allen. No god, no!
They rule that he is Guilty, but he refuses to accept the verdict
Man of Appeal
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Asimov's "On Numbers" is a good one
I thought that story was gonna be a really solid watch. Shit super guy who is almost forced into redemption. And then it spiralled into shit with his origin and the guy's wife.
Some executive is a jaded orphan, and Batman and Superman are his outlets.
"My parents are gone, burn the world!" the franchise
verdict upheld by higher court
implicates lois to receive lighter sentence
man of squeal
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
this some david greenglass shit
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
he fucks his suit up in the wash before a key date
man of teal
in the original German
after a lengthy prison sentence he has trouble finding steady work and turns to adult films to put food on the table
man of reveal
I liked Ultimate Marvel a lot.
I'm a fan of the darker, more morally ambiguous stuff though.
I liked the way that the Ultimate stuff ended with the X-men. They extended the Ultimate Marvel stuff with the Ultimate Comics ____. The X men stuff was gewd.
Also, SKFM, you should totally read Red Son. It's amazing. It's literally the best Superman story I've ever been exposed to.
"We believe in the people and their 'wisdom' as if there was some special secret entrance to knowledge that barred to anyone who had ever learned anything." - Friedrich Nietzsche
He cries for hours and dons an all black suit in mourning for all he has killed.
Man of Feels
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Prolly should have given him the water, Superman.
Incorrect
We have developed over time the ability to detect that the Virgin Mary was a skrull waifu
the first six propositions of wittgenstein's TLP
but not the seventh
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
he becomes like incredibly serious about his activism causes to try to make up for it
Man of Zeal
he tries to pet a baby calf but can't control his super strength
Man of Veal