More disturbing then how bland and crappy-to-mediocre this show has been so far is how many people in our D&D thread on the show were trying to defend it at the time. Just shameful.
I'm trusting you people that this gets better.
I'm pretty firm on 8-9 of the first 10-11 episodes are almost intolerably bad, but it gets way better. I'm not sure I'm glad I stuck it out rather than skipping to S1E11 or so, but I'm definitely glad I watched it overall.
Apparently I need to buy Hulu Plus to start watching S2, and that's just been too much effort so far.
0
Options
Powerpuppiesdrinking coffee in themountain cabinRegistered Userregular
I logged into Facebook just now to find that Feral had posted a tweet from a dude I used to hang out with ten years ago. what a trip.
the jazz bar tpnight was pretty good. I am terrible at ordering drinks on the spot, though. I just stammered out "uh, r..rum and coke?" and felt shame burn my face
It's called a Cuba Libre you uncultured swine
doesn't that have some other shit in it
No, but the man down under here is also uncultured swine.
I kinda feel bad about why I like that photo. It's great. But the context is her crying over the death of Mike Nichols, the man who helped jump start her career.
0
Options
Powerpuppiesdrinking coffee in themountain cabinRegistered Userregular
More disturbing then how bland and crappy-to-mediocre this show has been so far is how many people in our D&D thread on the show were trying to defend it at the time. Just shameful.
I'm trusting you people that this gets better.
I'm pretty firm on 8-9 of the first 10-11 episodes are almost intolerably bad, but it gets way better. I'm not sure I'm glad I stuck it out rather than skipping to S1E11 or so, but I'm definitely glad I watched it overall.
Apparently I need to buy Hulu Plus to start watching S2, and that's just been too much effort so far.
More disturbing then how bland and crappy-to-mediocre this show has been so far is how many people in our D&D thread on the show were trying to defend it at the time. Just shameful.
I'm trusting you people that this gets better.
I'm pretty firm on 8-9 of the first 10-11 episodes are almost intolerably bad, but it gets way better. I'm not sure I'm glad I stuck it out rather than skipping to S1E11 or so, but I'm definitely glad I watched it overall.
Apparently I need to buy Hulu Plus to start watching S2, and that's just been too much effort so far.
S1E11 is when it starts turning around?
Well, only 1 more episode of crap to go!
yes you are rapidly approaching the point of monotonically increasing quality
jacob, if you can't think of a drink to order, order an old fashioned
if you get an old fashioned and it is no good, leave and go to a better bar
if you do not like old fashioneds, well
i'm sure they have wine coolers
I literally thought to order an old fashioned as the guy was back at the bar
l'esprit de french staircase
you need like a mantra of drink order preparation
at all the fancy places we drink when work's paying, they have their own named cocktails on the menu, it removes this problem that you have from the equation
in fact it's fairly legit to just say "just make me one of your featured whiskey cocktails? Thanks."
The first 9 episodes are better on the second viewing, after you've finished season 1 and know how the pieces fit together. It also helps that if you've watched the whole season through you probably like the characters, and those 9 episodes don't do a great job of winning you over. It takes a while.
Though I maintain that episode 6 "Fzzt" is a good ep. It is the desert oasis of the first half.
Not everyone feels the same as I do on this, but to me the Whedons have diverted from the playbook enough times that the part of my brain that goes "well of course they're not going to do _______" doesn't pipe up off as often. Sometimes they do do _______. It is nice to just be immersed in what's happening and run with a conceit I wouldn't let slide coming from a different creative team.
jacob, if you can't think of a drink to order, order an old fashioned
if you get an old fashioned and it is no good, leave and go to a better bar
if you do not like old fashioneds, well
i'm sure they have wine coolers
I literally thought to order an old fashioned as the guy was back at the bar
l'esprit de french staircase
you need like a mantra of drink order preparation
at all the fancy places we drink when work's paying, they have their own named cocktails on the menu, it removes this problem that you have from the equation
in fact it's fairly legit to just say "just make me one of your featured whiskey cocktails? Thanks."
At my favorite places to hang this would get you a glass of whiskey
Actually in that tone it would probably get you a room temperature budlight
Like they would go out of their way to go next door to the offsale joint, purchase a 6 pack specifically off of the shelf rather than from the cooler and bring it back just to hand you a room temperature budlight.
@Abdhyius@DemonStacey I went to the first concert of that green-haired singer y'all liked
she was really really good and not that many people were there so I fanboyed (fuckboyed?) out real hard and apparently we have some mutual friends and I'm in love
"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
The first 9 episodes are better on the second viewing, after you've finished season 1 and know how the pieces fit together. It also helps that if you've watched the whole season through you probably like the characters, and those 9 episodes don't do a great job of winning you over. It takes a while.
Though I maintain that episode 6 "Fzzt" is a good ep. It is the desert oasis of the first half.
Not everyone feels the same as I do on this, but to me the Whedons have diverted from the playbook enough times that the part of my brain that goes "well of course they're not going to do _______" doesn't pipe up off as often. Sometimes they do do _______. It is nice to just be immersed in what's happening and run with a conceit I wouldn't let slide coming from a different creative team.
going back it's just as difficult to watch for me
i think the dialogue's just bad
the characters are just caricatures, especially fitzsimmons
there are a couple good eps, but generally even they have a few cringeworthy lines
i really think the dialogue and the characters get a lot better, separate from and simultaneous to the continuity arc beginning
+3
Options
Powerpuppiesdrinking coffee in themountain cabinRegistered Userregular
jacob, if you can't think of a drink to order, order an old fashioned
if you get an old fashioned and it is no good, leave and go to a better bar
if you do not like old fashioneds, well
i'm sure they have wine coolers
I literally thought to order an old fashioned as the guy was back at the bar
l'esprit de french staircase
you need like a mantra of drink order preparation
at all the fancy places we drink when work's paying, they have their own named cocktails on the menu, it removes this problem that you have from the equation
in fact it's fairly legit to just say "just make me one of your featured whiskey cocktails? Thanks."
At my favorite places to hang this would get you a glass of whiskey
Actually in that tone it would probably get you a room temperature budlight
Like they would go out of their way to go next door to the offsale joint, purchase a 6 pack specifically off of the shelf rather than from the cooler and bring it back just to hand you a room temperature budlight.
Urrgh I had an unpleasant experience just now and it's my own fault.
I heard my door open, and when I stepped out of my room to investigate there was a guy in the landing, though it was dark so I couldn't see him clearly. Before I could say anything he called out "hello!" and left. The light was on in the living room, and I'm sure he did that.
On closer inspection I forgot to lock my door after coming home from the gym last night.
I had a look and I don't think he took anything, but now I'm twisted up with thoughts like what if he's staking out the place and will come back regardless of how locked my door is and urrrrrgh.
Me dumb.
0
Options
Powerpuppiesdrinking coffee in themountain cabinRegistered Userregular
Yeah, I'm sorry Wash but no amount of later episodes can forgive how blandly and badly executed this show has been so far.
It feels like someone trying to emulate a Whedon show and failing through lack of good writing (especially dialogue). Combined with the occasional Gotham-esque bit of "We are totally part of the MCU guys!!!"
The plots are dull and formulaic and been-there-done-that, the characters still barely sketched out and not terribly interesting and there's little interesting being built in the background.
You know what, I think the best description of this would actually be a blander and more boring version of Fringe S1. That's really what this feels like. Less interesting mysteries, less interesting characters, less interesting slowly building mythology. Fringe at least had the desire to gross you out and kill a few people gruesomely in the process. AOS just seems to want to be the blandest procedural ever connected to a comic-book franchise ever produced.
It has showed the occasional moment of promise though. Parts of Eye-Spy, FZZT, and The Girl in the Flower Dress could probably see quality television on the horizon. But then the show bobbed right back down into the abyss.
Yeah, I'm sorry Wash but no amount of later episodes can forgive how blandly and badly executed this show has been so far.
It feels like someone trying to emulate a Whedon show and failing through lack of good writing (especially dialogue). Combined with the occasional Gotham-esque bit of "We are totally part of the MCU guys!!!"
The plots are dull and formulaic and been-there-done-that, the characters still barely sketched out and not terribly interesting and there's little interesting being built in the background.
You know what, I think the best description of this would actually be a blander and more boring version of Fringe S1. That's really what this feels like. Less interesting mysteries, less interesting characters, less interesting slowly building mythology. Fringe at least had the desire to gross you out and kill a few people gruesomely in the process. AOS just seems to want to be the blandest procedural ever connected to a comic-book franchise ever produced.
some of this looks different by the end of the season
Yeah, I'm sorry Wash but no amount of later episodes can forgive how blandly and badly executed this show has been so far.
It feels like someone trying to emulate a Whedon show and failing through lack of good writing (especially dialogue). Combined with the occasional Gotham-esque bit of "We are totally part of the MCU guys!!!"
The plots are dull and formulaic and been-there-done-that, the characters still barely sketched out and not terribly interesting and there's little interesting being built in the background.
You know what, I think the best description of this would actually be a blander and more boring version of Fringe S1. That's really what this feels like. Less interesting mysteries, less interesting characters, less interesting slowly building mythology. Fringe at least had the desire to gross you out and kill a few people gruesomely in the process. AOS just seems to want to be the blandest procedural ever connected to a comic-book franchise ever produced.
It sounds like you should probably stop watching it then?
More disturbing then how bland and crappy-to-mediocre this show has been so far is how many people in our D&D thread on the show were trying to defend it at the time. Just shameful.
I'm trusting you people that this gets better.
yeah it was pretty much completely shit for like 10 episodes; my method was binge-watching it on my iPad while playing civ5 on my computer, that way I was enjoying myself with something I could easily divert attention away from at relevant moments
it worked, and eventually I stopped playing while I watched altogether
jacob, if you can't think of a drink to order, order an old fashioned
if you get an old fashioned and it is no good, leave and go to a better bar
if you do not like old fashioneds, well
i'm sure they have wine coolers
I literally thought to order an old fashioned as the guy was back at the bar
l'esprit de french staircase
you need like a mantra of drink order preparation
at all the fancy places we drink when work's paying, they have their own named cocktails on the menu, it removes this problem that you have from the equation
in fact it's fairly legit to just say "just make me one of your featured whiskey cocktails? Thanks."
At my favorite places to hang this would get you a glass of whiskey
Actually in that tone it would probably get you a room temperature budlight
Like they would go out of their way to go next door to the offsale joint, purchase a 6 pack specifically off of the shelf rather than from the cooler and bring it back just to hand you a room temperature budlight.
r u hipstering me here or hwhat
Naw I just prefer dive-ish bars to hang with friends at
Mostly because they tend to be quiet enough that you can talk but at the same time don't particularily care if you're loud
But they also tend to be places where the bartender's reaction to someone asking for a "featured whiskey cocktail" is going to run the gamut depending on who is behind the bar that night :P
Yeah, I'm sorry Wash but no amount of later episodes can forgive how blandly and badly executed this show has been so far.
It feels like someone trying to emulate a Whedon show and failing through lack of good writing (especially dialogue). Combined with the occasional Gotham-esque bit of "We are totally part of the MCU guys!!!"
The plots are dull and formulaic and been-there-done-that, the characters still barely sketched out and not terribly interesting and there's little interesting being built in the background.
You know what, I think the best description of this would actually be a blander and more boring version of Fringe S1. That's really what this feels like. Less interesting mysteries, less interesting characters, less interesting slowly building mythology. Fringe at least had the desire to gross you out and kill a few people gruesomely in the process. AOS just seems to want to be the blandest procedural ever connected to a comic-book franchise ever produced.
It has showed the occasional moment of promise though. Parts of Eye-Spy, FZZT, and The Girl in the Flower Dress could probably see quality television on the horizon. But then the show bobbed right back down into the abyss.
watched the wolf of wall street. kinda drank way too much, in the spirit of the movie.
there's a legit blizzard going on outside and I have to get my car in for an oil change and go to the last round of my current not-chemo treatment tomorrow. I must resist the urge to abdicate both of these responsibilities
Posts
I'm pretty firm on 8-9 of the first 10-11 episodes are almost intolerably bad, but it gets way better. I'm not sure I'm glad I stuck it out rather than skipping to S1E11 or so, but I'm definitely glad I watched it overall.
Apparently I need to buy Hulu Plus to start watching S2, and that's just been too much effort so far.
No, but the man down under here is also uncultured swine.
It's una mentirita, because Cuba Libre was a lie.
if you get an old fashioned and it is no good, leave and go to a better bar
if you do not like old fashioneds, well
i'm sure they have wine coolers
I kinda feel bad about why I like that photo. It's great. But the context is her crying over the death of Mike Nichols, the man who helped jump start her career.
I think you might need a more cackling avatar.
S1E11 is when it starts turning around?
Well, only 1 more episode of crap to go!
yes you are rapidly approaching the point of monotonically increasing quality
I like Sazeracs.
You learn right away if a bar is worth drinking at if they can make you a good one.
Make me a Sazerac, and then we can talk about the next 4 drinks I will be having.
the only actual picture of you i've ever seen would do nicely
I literally thought to order an old fashioned as the guy was back at the bar
l'esprit de french staircase
you need like a mantra of drink order preparation
at all the fancy places we drink when work's paying, they have their own named cocktails on the menu, it removes this problem that you have from the equation
in fact it's fairly legit to just say "just make me one of your featured whiskey cocktails? Thanks."
he makes minimum wage and I'm pretty sure his boss is stiffing him on pay and is at the very least overworking him
erg
i can't think of which one that would be
canadians cannot reveal their mouths for fear of immediate frostbite
Though I maintain that episode 6 "Fzzt" is a good ep. It is the desert oasis of the first half.
I love how she delivers those lines to Coulson
and Fitz really knows how to scream
Not everyone feels the same as I do on this, but to me the Whedons have diverted from the playbook enough times that the part of my brain that goes "well of course they're not going to do _______" doesn't pipe up off as often. Sometimes they do do _______. It is nice to just be immersed in what's happening and run with a conceit I wouldn't let slide coming from a different creative team.
At my favorite places to hang this would get you a glass of whiskey
Actually in that tone it would probably get you a room temperature budlight
Like they would go out of their way to go next door to the offsale joint, purchase a 6 pack specifically off of the shelf rather than from the cooler and bring it back just to hand you a room temperature budlight.
she was really really good and not that many people were there so I fanboyed (fuckboyed?) out real hard and apparently we have some mutual friends and I'm in love
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Unique
going back it's just as difficult to watch for me
i think the dialogue's just bad
the characters are just caricatures, especially fitzsimmons
there are a couple good eps, but generally even they have a few cringeworthy lines
i really think the dialogue and the characters get a lot better, separate from and simultaneous to the continuity arc beginning
r u hipstering me here or hwhat
I heard my door open, and when I stepped out of my room to investigate there was a guy in the landing, though it was dark so I couldn't see him clearly. Before I could say anything he called out "hello!" and left. The light was on in the living room, and I'm sure he did that.
On closer inspection I forgot to lock my door after coming home from the gym last night.
I had a look and I don't think he took anything, but now I'm twisted up with thoughts like what if he's staking out the place and will come back regardless of how locked my door is and urrrrrgh.
Me dumb.
no it was one where you had booze and looked more diabolical
how i feel after quitting my job today
@Chanus
It feels like someone trying to emulate a Whedon show and failing through lack of good writing (especially dialogue). Combined with the occasional Gotham-esque bit of "We are totally part of the MCU guys!!!"
The plots are dull and formulaic and been-there-done-that, the characters still barely sketched out and not terribly interesting and there's little interesting being built in the background.
You know what, I think the best description of this would actually be a blander and more boring version of Fringe S1. That's really what this feels like. Less interesting mysteries, less interesting characters, less interesting slowly building mythology. Fringe at least had the desire to gross you out and kill a few people gruesomely in the process. AOS just seems to want to be the blandest procedural ever connected to a comic-book franchise ever produced.
It has showed the occasional moment of promise though. Parts of Eye-Spy, FZZT, and The Girl in the Flower Dress could probably see quality television on the horizon. But then the show bobbed right back down into the abyss.
beauty
that's the first time I've seen footage of the people who fell out of the towers
jesus DUE what kind of working conditions were you dealing with
some of this looks different by the end of the season
It sounds like you should probably stop watching it then?
How could it?
You can't retroactively unshit your dialogue and plotting.
bro
heh
yeah it was pretty much completely shit for like 10 episodes; my method was binge-watching it on my iPad while playing civ5 on my computer, that way I was enjoying myself with something I could easily divert attention away from at relevant moments
it worked, and eventually I stopped playing while I watched altogether
Naw I just prefer dive-ish bars to hang with friends at
Mostly because they tend to be quiet enough that you can talk but at the same time don't particularily care if you're loud
But they also tend to be places where the bartender's reaction to someone asking for a "featured whiskey cocktail" is going to run the gamut depending on who is behind the bar that night :P
Skip to episode 16.
there's a legit blizzard going on outside and I have to get my car in for an oil change and go to the last round of my current not-chemo treatment tomorrow. I must resist the urge to abdicate both of these responsibilities