Computer science, if you're in a good program with that attract Silicon Valley companies.
Math and Statistics, if you're willing to do a Master's, and move into finance work.
Today my manager was talking to me about all kinds of finance related stuff we're working on .. then out of the blue...
Manager: "Hey what do you think about people living on Mars and trying to repopulate the planet? There's no moon, so they wouldn't be able to do it right?"
Me: "uhhh, sure?"
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Computer science, which then leads into software development. But that varies on where you are. Here in the Boston area, there is a really high demand.
Speaking of, last day of business trip. Everyone is hungover and still six hours of solid talking and working left to go. I cannot wait to sleep properly. Still, I will miss the free food.
the work is ultra satisfying and also pays incredibly well out of the gate. It's tough but completely worth it.
If I ever get a steady schedule, this is actually what I intend on going back to school for. The hard part is trying to also get approved for some kind of tuition reimbursement at work.
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If you're OK with doing helpdesk, and you have a BA in anything, I highly recommend the Verizon position Fiber Support Analyst as an entry level job. I got into that job with a BA in music performance and zero telecom experience, and started at 41k per year, not including overtime and the yearly bonus. Because of the union I am guaranteed a raise every year, so yes I'm making 60k now. Only problem is I doubt there are any other telecom jobs that pay that much out of the gate without experience.
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I wish I had gotten a Computer Science Degree instead of Health Studies. Now I have this weird general science bachelor's degree but like I know more about computers, networking, and programming than about half the CS graduates I've met.
I wish I had gotten a Computer Science Degree instead of Health Studies. Now I have this weird general science bachelor's degree but like I know more about computers, networking, and programming than about half the CS graduates I've met.
As someone with a CS degree, you are probably better positioned for the job market with what you have.
EE and CS can also take you in a direction you don't hear much of- there's the whole field of systems integration (basically - programmable controllers that control physical hardware and wired to physical I/O, and then the HMI programs that act as the interface/data collection/controls to the system). I've worked on highway tunnel air filtration, street lamp assembly factory, x-ray gun calibration machines and a high pressure metal fusing system to name a few. Some of my co-workers have done work for LL Bean, Keurig, oil tank contruction, subway systems, etc. The pay is up there with other high end tech ventures typically too, though not as high as some.
Its a huge wide open field and I barely see anybody going into it, mostly because they don't know about it. I only stumbled on it through an internship in college. There's definitely openings in it from a IT/DBA angle, technical writing/documentation management besides just approaching it from EE or CS degree paths.
EE and CS can also take you in a direction you don't hear much of- there's the whole field of systems integration (basically - programmable controllers that control physical hardware and wired to physical I/O, and then the HMI programs that act as the interface/data collection/controls to the system). I've worked on highway tunnel air filtration, street lamp assembly factory, x-ray gun calibration machines and a high pressure metal fusing system to name a few. Some of my co-workers have done work for LL Bean, Keurig, oil tank contruction, subway systems, etc. The pay is up there with other high end tech ventures typically too, though not as high as some.
Its a huge wide open field and I barely see anybody going into it, mostly because they don't know about it. I only stumbled on it through an internship in college. There's definitely openings in it from a IT/DBA angle, technical writing/documentation management besides just approaching it from EE or CS degree paths.
There are a lot of paths leading out from EE and CS degrees that aren't just, "Programmer" or "Software developer".
So actually, one of the really good ways to make money is to be a Systems/Software Tester. Because nobody goes into CS to become a tester and nobody likes testing but testing is critical, so demand easily outstrips supply. You might have to start out in a sucky entry-level testing position, but it's fairly easy to advance, AFAIK. Because again, nobody likes testing.
But yeah. There are lots of lines like systems administrations, network administrators, database administrators, business analysts, etc, that spin off of CS degrees, even though they're not really "taught" in CS programs, and getting onto those career tracks is often a matter of dumb luck and early exposure through summer jobs/internships/whathaveyou.
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Gonna ask about a raise soon. Next week my schedule is all supervisor shifts. Nice to be getting a full forty every week now.
I wish I had gotten a Computer Science Degree instead of Health Studies. Now I have this weird general science bachelor's degree but like I know more about computers, networking, and programming than about half the CS graduates I've met.
Two of the best developer I've worked with in the 5 years with my company did not have CS degrees. One was aerospace engineering and the other was audio engineering with a minor in CS. The thing they had going for them that got them in the door (entry level position) was their drive to learn things on their own outside of school with something to show for it. As an interviewer, I care more about what you've built yourself than what you may have learned out of a text book that really has very little relevance in real world applications.
If you want to get into the software world at an entry level position, having something you've created yourself is waaaaaaaaaaaaay more useful than a CS degree. Obviously a CS degree doesn't hurt, but it's not a requirement.
The way I explain it to undergraduates is the degree gets you the interview, but your experience and extracurriculars (relevant ones) are what get you the job.
If college is not in the cards and you aren't averse to military service, do 6 years in the Navy as a nuke and then start in the civilian world at $60k+ EASY. If you go civilian nuclear power, you're looking at a lot more. I went into solar and I'm starting at $90k +overtime (but I did more than the 6 year minimum).
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work in videogames, you make a ton of money in videog-heh-he-hahahahaha
As a CS grad with a salary in the mid-50s, I feel a little bad now for complaining about how I haven't gotten a decent raise in the past couple years. Not that bad though, I still think I deserve a raise.
That's only slightly over the average American household income, though. Granted, I'm making that as a single guy while a lot of households have two workers, but I'm surprised such a majority of the thread seems to see it as an unattainable goal, even the tech people? I know our company has basically never not being hiring as long as I've been here, though they also haven't been great at advertising it.
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I eventually wanna be a theater teacher.
There is no way I'll EVER make sixty g's
And I'm ok with that
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I'm applying for a new job, and part of the application is a written essay. 2 questions, 1-page, single spaced, times new roman, 11 point font, but nothing about margins which I haven't messed with yet.
I was wondering if anyone here would be willing and able to look over the essay for me? Not for grammar or spelling, my fiancee is all over that, but for content. It's for a position that is guaranteed to get over 1000 apps, and is only looking for ~20 people, so a critical eye from someone who's been on the hiring end would be greatly appreciated.
I can give more details in this thread or by PM, just let me know.
The average starting salary for a paralegal in DK is 65.000$ After three years you'll be making 72.000$ It's kinda an obscene amount of money for a social science degree.
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WeaverWho are you?What do you want?Registered Userregular
I'm really hoping now that I can get a bigger raise from my moving up at work. Because for the second time inside of a month, local homeless junkies, just a few blocks from where PAX Prime is held, have tried to burn my building to the ground. The guy who set the roof on fire is still in county, and they didn't make any arrests tonight related to the arson.
Seattle rents are so high that I'd need a raise to find a new place in the neighborhood, and even if the people who started this latest fire get caught, I worry about the property owners giving up and selling the lot to new developers.
the work is ultra satisfying and also pays incredibly well out of the gate. It's tough but completely worth it.
As someone who has worked in engineering and software development, I don't like this advice at all.
Programming is way more fun and my grad salary (including bonus) is more than double what I ever made as an engineer.
Counterpoint: programming is horrible and tedious and doesn't get you out in the fresh air enough.
Countercounterpoint: Be awesome at it and work on interesting projects and then it is more problem-solvey than drudgery. Engineering when I did it was mostly about reading mind-numbing regulations and making sure designs didn't break them.
Also my work is doing an experiment where everyone goes on weekly walks around the city for more fresh air, and also also there is a company trip to the Blue Mountains this weekend so that's pretty alright.
the work is ultra satisfying and also pays incredibly well out of the gate. It's tough but completely worth it.
As someone who has worked in engineering and software development, I don't like this advice at all.
Programming is way more fun and my grad salary (including bonus) is more than double what I ever made as an engineer.
Counterpoint: programming is horrible and tedious and doesn't get you out in the fresh air enough.
Countercounterpoint: Be awesome at it and work on interesting projects and then it is more problem-solvey than drudgery. Engineering when I did it was mostly about reading mind-numbing regulations and making sure designs didn't break them.
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Countercountercounterpoint: Be awesome at it and work on interesting projects and then it is more problem-solvey than drudgery
the work is ultra satisfying and also pays incredibly well out of the gate. It's tough but completely worth it.
As someone who has worked in engineering and software development, I don't like this advice at all.
Programming is way more fun and my grad salary (including bonus) is more than double what I ever made as an engineer.
Counterpoint: programming is horrible and tedious and doesn't get you out in the fresh air enough.
Countercounterpoint: Be awesome at it and work on interesting projects and then it is more problem-solvey than drudgery. Engineering when I did it was mostly about reading mind-numbing regulations and making sure designs didn't break them.
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Countercountercounterpoint: Be awesome at it and work on interesting projects and then it is more problem-solvey than drudgery
Countercountercountercounterpoint: I guess the hidden point here is do something you're awesome at and work on interesting projects and you'll probably do pretty well for yourself.
I mean jokes aside, I'm just not very into software. When I am (reluctantly) forced to develop tools or code in any serious way, the projects are definitely interesting! but the whole process of creation is not one I find very enjoyable.
It's always nice when something works though, in any arena!
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Math and Statistics, if you're willing to do a Master's, and move into finance work.
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FIREFIGHTER"
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VELOCIRAPTOR"
I was confused and slightly disappointed.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
Even I am disappointed now!
Manager: "Hey what do you think about people living on Mars and trying to repopulate the planet? There's no moon, so they wouldn't be able to do it right?"
Me: "uhhh, sure?"
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There's Phobos and Deimos, so they'll be able to repopulate the planet twice as fast.
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Computer science, which then leads into software development. But that varies on where you are. Here in the Boston area, there is a really high demand.
Speaking of, last day of business trip. Everyone is hungover and still six hours of solid talking and working left to go. I cannot wait to sleep properly. Still, I will miss the free food.
And booze.
...mostly the booze.
the work is ultra satisfying and also pays incredibly well out of the gate. It's tough but completely worth it.
If I ever get a steady schedule, this is actually what I intend on going back to school for. The hard part is trying to also get approved for some kind of tuition reimbursement at work.
As someone with a CS degree, you are probably better positioned for the job market with what you have.
Its a huge wide open field and I barely see anybody going into it, mostly because they don't know about it. I only stumbled on it through an internship in college. There's definitely openings in it from a IT/DBA angle, technical writing/documentation management besides just approaching it from EE or CS degree paths.
There are a lot of paths leading out from EE and CS degrees that aren't just, "Programmer" or "Software developer".
So actually, one of the really good ways to make money is to be a Systems/Software Tester. Because nobody goes into CS to become a tester and nobody likes testing but testing is critical, so demand easily outstrips supply. You might have to start out in a sucky entry-level testing position, but it's fairly easy to advance, AFAIK. Because again, nobody likes testing.
But yeah. There are lots of lines like systems administrations, network administrators, database administrators, business analysts, etc, that spin off of CS degrees, even though they're not really "taught" in CS programs, and getting onto those career tracks is often a matter of dumb luck and early exposure through summer jobs/internships/whathaveyou.
The way I explain it to undergraduates is the degree gets you the interview, but your experience and extracurriculars (relevant ones) are what get you the job.
That's only slightly over the average American household income, though. Granted, I'm making that as a single guy while a lot of households have two workers, but I'm surprised such a majority of the thread seems to see it as an unattainable goal, even the tech people? I know our company has basically never not being hiring as long as I've been here, though they also haven't been great at advertising it.
There is no way I'll EVER make sixty g's
And I'm ok with that
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I was wondering if anyone here would be willing and able to look over the essay for me? Not for grammar or spelling, my fiancee is all over that, but for content. It's for a position that is guaranteed to get over 1000 apps, and is only looking for ~20 people, so a critical eye from someone who's been on the hiring end would be greatly appreciated.
I can give more details in this thread or by PM, just let me know.
As someone who has worked in engineering and software development, I don't like this advice at all.
Programming is way more fun and my grad salary (including bonus) is more than double what I ever made as an engineer.
Fuck yeah.
I hit double what I started at when I started here a year and a half back. But that's only because I started so low straight out of university.
yeah I'm frankly flabbergasted that the company was like "yeah okay" when I told 'em how much I wanted to be paid
I'm pretty sure my first full-time job in games is supposed to be a shitty slog??? Not an incredibly comfortable place to learn and grow
Counterpoint: programming is horrible and tedious and doesn't get you out in the fresh air enough.
Seattle rents are so high that I'd need a raise to find a new place in the neighborhood, and even if the people who started this latest fire get caught, I worry about the property owners giving up and selling the lot to new developers.
Countercounterpoint: Be awesome at it and work on interesting projects and then it is more problem-solvey than drudgery. Engineering when I did it was mostly about reading mind-numbing regulations and making sure designs didn't break them.
Also my work is doing an experiment where everyone goes on weekly walks around the city for more fresh air, and also also there is a company trip to the Blue Mountains this weekend so that's pretty alright.
Countercountercounterpoint: Be awesome at it and work on interesting projects and then it is more problem-solvey than drudgery
Countercountercountercounterpoint: I guess the hidden point here is do something you're awesome at and work on interesting projects and you'll probably do pretty well for yourself.
I mean jokes aside, I'm just not very into software. When I am (reluctantly) forced to develop tools or code in any serious way, the projects are definitely interesting! but the whole process of creation is not one I find very enjoyable.
It's always nice when something works though, in any arena!
Bears for careers?