we don't have too many bike lanes around here, so if you insist on cycling anyway, you're kind of an asshole.
If you "insist" on cycling.
The ignorant privilege dripping off of this statement is sickening. I hope if you ever have a medical issue that makes operating an automobile unwise, or a financial status that makes it impossible, that the motorists you have to share the road with are kinder to you.
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we don't have too many bike lanes around here, so if you insist on cycling anyway, you're kind of an asshole.
If you "insist" on cycling.
The ignorant privilege dripping off of this statement is sickening. I hope if you ever have a medical issue that makes operating an automobile unwise, or a financial status that makes it impossible, that the motorists you have to share the road with are kinder to you.
I mean, if you don't own a car are you even really a person?
I throw my extra pair of Versace sunglasses at bicyclists out the window of my BMW every chance I get.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
we don't have too many bike lanes around here, so if you insist on cycling anyway, you're kind of an asshole.
If you "insist" on cycling.
The ignorant privilege dripping off of this statement is sickening. I hope if you ever have a medical issue that makes operating an automobile unwise, or a financial status that makes it impossible, that the motorists you have to share the road with are kinder to you.
right?!
The Cheat, like so many others, should always have to round a curve in a densely forested area and immediately slam on the brakes hoping that he can slow to 10mph in time to not hit that cyclist in the middle of the road!
Yeah, I mean, if you can't stop to not hit a bicycle going 10 MPH, then you are definitely going too fast to not his something going 0 MPH. Like a deer. Or a stalled car.
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and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
Yeah, I mean, if you can't stop to not hit a bicycle going 10 MPH, then you are definitely going too fast to not his something going 0 MPH. Like a deer. Or a stalled car.
If the posted speed limit is 40 and all of a sudden you're forced to go 10, it can get hairy fairly quickly
same for a deer or fallen tree or etc.
the only difference is that the cyclist can ride the shoulder or (if available) hit a trail or bike lane.
roads are 12' wide and have two layers of asphalt on 6-9" of compacted fill for a reason, and it isn't to support the weight of a bicycle
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I'm 100% down with cycling
Love it, and if I had one I'd ride as often as possible. But I'd also do the courtesy of sticking to trails, shoulders, and bike lanes.
Yeah, I mean, if you can't stop to not hit a bicycle going 10 MPH, then you are definitely going too fast to not his something going 0 MPH. Like a deer. Or a stalled car.
If the posted speed limit is 40 and all of a sudden you're forced to go 10, it can get hairy fairly quickly
same for a deer or fallen tree or etc.
the only difference is that the cyclist can ride the shoulder or (if available) hit a trail or bike lane.
roads are 12' wide and have two layers of asphalt on 6-9" of compacted fill for a reason, and it isn't to support the weight of a bicycle
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I'm 100% down with cycling
Love it, and if I had one I'd ride as often as possible. But I'd also do the courtesy of sticking to trails, shoulders, and bike lanes.
If you can't stop for an obstruction around a curve, then you are going too fast, regardless of the posted limit.
I do agree that it is common courtesy for a bicyclist to move over to the side and allow cars to pass, if it is safe to do so. Sometimes it is safer to be in the middle of the road. Best judgement should always be used, and everyone should relax a little.
That's my main pro-tip for everything though. Everyone relax. It will be okay.
Edit: On second thought, this argument's been had before, and it won't be resolved today.
Nah man, go for it. That's the point of this thread, to distill all the arguments down, into this thread, so we can talk about movies and interesting things in other threads. Do it for the team!
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and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
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Yeah, I mean, if you can't stop to not hit a bicycle going 10 MPH, then you are definitely going too fast to not his something going 0 MPH. Like a deer. Or a stalled car.
Yeah, I mean, if you can't stop to not hit a bicycle going 10 MPH, then you are definitely going too fast to not his something going 0 MPH. Like a deer. Or a stalled car.
I give cyclists the same courtesy as anyone else on the road. All i ask is they follow traffic laws as well. No running lights and stop signs and no riding up between cars and the curb where there isn't a bike lane.
Yeah, I mean, if you can't stop to not hit a bicycle going 10 MPH, then you are definitely going too fast to not his something going 0 MPH. Like a deer. Or a stalled car.
Or an ABANDONED ORPHAN!
Or some guy with a hook hand who will come back around in a year and murder all your high school friends. It's a real concern!
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
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Yeah, I mean, if you can't stop to not hit a bicycle going 10 MPH, then you are definitely going too fast to not his something going 0 MPH. Like a deer. Or a stalled car.
Or an ABANDONED ORPHAN!
Abandoned orphan is kinda redundant.
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Yeah, I mean, if you can't stop to not hit a bicycle going 10 MPH, then you are definitely going too fast to not his something going 0 MPH. Like a deer. Or a stalled car.
Or a GODDAMN LADDER THAT FELL OFF SOMEONE'S TRUCK.
...sorry, still really mad about my car being in the shop.
Some guy driving in front of me dropped about 1/4 of a load of cinderblocks off his truck. Luckily I used the sick driving skillz I learned from The Rock to maneuver my van around them in .5 seconds.
It was scary as hell though.
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
like if your parents were out cycling and are hogging the center of the road despite an 8' shoulder being present and they both get hit by a semi doing the speed limit
they didn't so much abandon their kids as make a foolish decision to hog up a perfectly good road
I give cyclists the same courtesy as anyone else on the road. All i ask is they follow traffic laws as well. No running lights and stop signs and no riding up between cars and the curb where there isn't a bike lane.
God, yesterday a motorcyclist went between the lanes and drove past like, 6 stopped cars so he could be at the front of the line when the light changed.
He also had about the goddamn loudest motorcycle I've ever heard. I could hear him gunning his engine long after he was out of sight over all the road noise and loud trucks next to me.
like if your parents were out cycling and are hogging the center of the road despite an 8' shoulder being present and they both get hit by a semi doing the speed limit
they didn't so much abandon their kids as make a foolish decision to hog up a perfectly good road
Maybe that semi shouldn't have been hogging the road either
Bicycles are vehicles like anything else, and should be treated exactly the same as vehicles in all respects
I can't speak to your area, but around here the shoulder / bike lane is often worse maintained, potholed, filled with broken glass, or within car door range to the point that yes it is sometimes safer to be in the middle of the road.
I can't speak to your area, but around here the shoulder / bike lane is often worse maintained, potholed, filled with broken glass, or within car door range to the point that yes it is sometimes safer to be in the middle of the road.
Yeah, where I grew up pulling to the shoulder would have meant essentially stopping your bike for a car to pass
If you wanted to actually ride a bike, you needed to ride in lane
like if your parents were out cycling and are hogging the center of the road despite an 8' shoulder being present and they both get hit by a semi doing the speed limit
they didn't so much abandon their kids as make a foolish decision to hog up a perfectly good road
Maybe that semi shouldn't have been hogging the road either
Bicycles are vehicles like anything else, and should be treated exactly the same as vehicles in all respects
Wut. Bicycles are quick pedestrians. They don't get to tool down the middle of a road 30 under like some sort of ridiculous strawman.
like if your parents were out cycling and are hogging the center of the road despite an 8' shoulder being present and they both get hit by a semi doing the speed limit
they didn't so much abandon their kids as make a foolish decision to hog up a perfectly good road
Maybe that semi shouldn't have been hogging the road either
Bicycles are vehicles like anything else, and should be treated exactly the same as vehicles in all respects
Wut. Bicycles are quick pedestrians. They don't get to tool down the middle of a road 30 under like some sort of ridiculous strawman.
I don't know where you're from, but in Ontario at least, bicycles are legally vehicles.
As such they are required to be afforded the same respect as you would afford any car, and they are required to obey all traffic laws as a car would unless otherwise specified.
like if your parents were out cycling and are hogging the center of the road despite an 8' shoulder being present and they both get hit by a semi doing the speed limit
they didn't so much abandon their kids as make a foolish decision to hog up a perfectly good road
Maybe that semi shouldn't have been hogging the road either
Bicycles are vehicles like anything else, and should be treated exactly the same as vehicles in all respects
Wut. Bicycles are quick pedestrians. They don't get to tool down the middle of a road 30 under like some sort of ridiculous strawman.
I don't know where you're from, but in Ontario at least, bicycles are legally vehicles.
As such they are required to be afforded the same respect as you would afford any car, and they are required to obey all traffic laws as a car would unless otherwise specified.
An important note is that there are traffic laws regarding impeding traffic, so if you're trying to putz down a two-lane highway at 20 MPH you are in the wrong.
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like if your parents were out cycling and are hogging the center of the road despite an 8' shoulder being present and they both get hit by a semi doing the speed limit
they didn't so much abandon their kids as make a foolish decision to hog up a perfectly good road
Maybe that semi shouldn't have been hogging the road either
Bicycles are vehicles like anything else, and should be treated exactly the same as vehicles in all respects
Wut. Bicycles are quick pedestrians. They don't get to tool down the middle of a road 30 under like some sort of ridiculous strawman.
I don't know where you're from, but in Ontario at least, bicycles are legally vehicles.
As such they are required to be afforded the same respect as you would afford any car, and they are required to obey all traffic laws as a car would unless otherwise specified.
An important note is that there are traffic laws regarding impeding traffic, so if you're trying to putz down a two-lane highway at 20 MPH you are in the wrong.
You can't ride a bike on the highway (one of the aforementioned "unless otherwise specified" exceptions to the normal traffic laws).
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like if your parents were out cycling and are hogging the center of the road despite an 8' shoulder being present and they both get hit by a semi doing the speed limit
they didn't so much abandon their kids as make a foolish decision to hog up a perfectly good road
Maybe that semi shouldn't have been hogging the road either
Bicycles are vehicles like anything else, and should be treated exactly the same as vehicles in all respects
Wut. Bicycles are quick pedestrians. They don't get to tool down the middle of a road 30 under like some sort of ridiculous strawman.
I don't know where you're from, but in Ontario at least, bicycles are legally vehicles.
As such they are required to be afforded the same respect as you would afford any car, and they are required to obey all traffic laws as a car would unless otherwise specified.
An important note is that there are traffic laws regarding impeding traffic, so if you're trying to putz down a two-lane highway at 20 MPH you are in the wrong.
Yes, but that certainly isn't cause to suggest that you should be hit and killed for doing so
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StraightziHere we may reign secure, and in my choice,To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered Userregular
like if your parents were out cycling and are hogging the center of the road despite an 8' shoulder being present and they both get hit by a semi doing the speed limit
they didn't so much abandon their kids as make a foolish decision to hog up a perfectly good road
Maybe that semi shouldn't have been hogging the road either
Bicycles are vehicles like anything else, and should be treated exactly the same as vehicles in all respects
Wut. Bicycles are quick pedestrians. They don't get to tool down the middle of a road 30 under like some sort of ridiculous strawman.
I don't know where you're from, but in Ontario at least, bicycles are legally vehicles.
As such they are required to be afforded the same respect as you would afford any car, and they are required to obey all traffic laws as a car would unless otherwise specified.
An important note is that there are traffic laws regarding impeding traffic, so if you're trying to putz down a two-lane highway at 20 MPH you are in the wrong.
You can't ride a bike on the highway (one of the aforementioned "unless otherwise specified" exceptions to the normal traffic laws).
Well, sort of
Generally, the law states that you can't ride a bike on a divided, multi-lane road
Which is colloquially called a highway frequently
But highway refers to a lot more roads than just those, and those other roads are generally kosher for bike riding
I prefer to use the distinction freeway and highway in order to maintain this (you can ride your bike on a highway, but not on a freeway)
unmarked bike lanes are bullshit and slow up traffic. this is annoying to me. perhaps my ire would be better directed at local government. at the same time... 'kind of an asshole' is not the most hurtful of insults, maybe chill a bit, guys.
unmarked bike lanes are bullshit and slow up traffic. this is annoying to me. perhaps my ire would be better directed at local government. at the same time... 'kind of an asshole' is not the most hurtful of insults, maybe chill a bit, guys.
Other things that slow up traffic:
People driving a full size car when they could just be riding a bike
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If you "insist" on cycling.
The ignorant privilege dripping off of this statement is sickening. I hope if you ever have a medical issue that makes operating an automobile unwise, or a financial status that makes it impossible, that the motorists you have to share the road with are kinder to you.
Well you know what they say, a two-tonne hydraulic gorilla can go where it wants.
... but for all other robots, please don't void the warranty by operating in a non-structured environment.
I mean, if you don't own a car are you even really a person?
I throw my extra pair of Versace sunglasses at bicyclists out the window of my BMW every chance I get.
but they're listening to every word I say
right?!
The Cheat, like so many others, should always have to round a curve in a densely forested area and immediately slam on the brakes hoping that he can slow to 10mph in time to not hit that cyclist in the middle of the road!
but they're listening to every word I say
If the posted speed limit is 40 and all of a sudden you're forced to go 10, it can get hairy fairly quickly
same for a deer or fallen tree or etc.
the only difference is that the cyclist can ride the shoulder or (if available) hit a trail or bike lane.
roads are 12' wide and have two layers of asphalt on 6-9" of compacted fill for a reason, and it isn't to support the weight of a bicycle
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I'm 100% down with cycling
Love it, and if I had one I'd ride as often as possible. But I'd also do the courtesy of sticking to trails, shoulders, and bike lanes.
If you can't stop for an obstruction around a curve, then you are going too fast, regardless of the posted limit.
I do agree that it is common courtesy for a bicyclist to move over to the side and allow cars to pass, if it is safe to do so. Sometimes it is safer to be in the middle of the road. Best judgement should always be used, and everyone should relax a little.
That's my main pro-tip for everything though. Everyone relax. It will be okay.
Nah man, go for it. That's the point of this thread, to distill all the arguments down, into this thread, so we can talk about movies and interesting things in other threads. Do it for the team!
but they're listening to every word I say
Or an ABANDONED ORPHAN!
It's like 2003 all over again!
Or some guy with a hook hand who will come back around in a year and murder all your high school friends. It's a real concern!
but they're listening to every word I say
...sorry, still really mad about my car being in the shop.
Abandoned orphan is kinda redundant.
So's your face!
Some guy driving in front of me dropped about 1/4 of a load of cinderblocks off his truck. Luckily I used the sick driving skillz I learned from The Rock to maneuver my van around them in .5 seconds.
It was scary as hell though.
but they're listening to every word I say
like if your parents were out cycling and are hogging the center of the road despite an 8' shoulder being present and they both get hit by a semi doing the speed limit
they didn't so much abandon their kids as make a foolish decision to hog up a perfectly good road
God, yesterday a motorcyclist went between the lanes and drove past like, 6 stopped cars so he could be at the front of the line when the light changed.
He also had about the goddamn loudest motorcycle I've ever heard. I could hear him gunning his engine long after he was out of sight over all the road noise and loud trucks next to me.
Watch Netflix and goof off?
but they're listening to every word I say
Maybe that semi shouldn't have been hogging the road either
Bicycles are vehicles like anything else, and should be treated exactly the same as vehicles in all respects
Yeah, where I grew up pulling to the shoulder would have meant essentially stopping your bike for a car to pass
If you wanted to actually ride a bike, you needed to ride in lane
but they're listening to every word I say
But it doesn't work so well when there's a bus stop in the middle of it
And given that buses tend to travel along the best commuter routes
Needs more crosswalks across the bike lane for people to ignore.
but they're listening to every word I say
Almost everything
Wut. Bicycles are quick pedestrians. They don't get to tool down the middle of a road 30 under like some sort of ridiculous strawman.
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I don't know where you're from, but in Ontario at least, bicycles are legally vehicles.
As such they are required to be afforded the same respect as you would afford any car, and they are required to obey all traffic laws as a car would unless otherwise specified.
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An important note is that there are traffic laws regarding impeding traffic, so if you're trying to putz down a two-lane highway at 20 MPH you are in the wrong.
You can't ride a bike on the highway (one of the aforementioned "unless otherwise specified" exceptions to the normal traffic laws).
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Yes, but that certainly isn't cause to suggest that you should be hit and killed for doing so
Well, sort of
Generally, the law states that you can't ride a bike on a divided, multi-lane road
Which is colloquially called a highway frequently
But highway refers to a lot more roads than just those, and those other roads are generally kosher for bike riding
I prefer to use the distinction freeway and highway in order to maintain this (you can ride your bike on a highway, but not on a freeway)
Other things that slow up traffic:
People driving a full size car when they could just be riding a bike
The conversation meandered right out into the street and was promptly hit by a bike. The name change car came by afterward and ran the bike over.
I hope a plane lands on the car now, it has been building up to this the whole time.
but they're listening to every word I say