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The GOP Primary Thread: Beyond Thunderdome

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    What about Trump has indicated that he's willing to cross the aisle?

    He made a pretty big display about it during the debate this week. He was knocking Cruz for being so ideological that he'd rather fail than compromise.

    He also went moderate on Israel, criticized the GOP for wanting people to die in the streets for lack of health care, and has said nice things about Bernie Sanders views on free trade. One of the reasons the GOP is freaking out right now is that Trump is throwing a ton of their favorite ideas in the dumpster.

    There's a reason that "Trump is a Democrat!" remains one of Ted Cruz's attack lines.

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    I should add that for Hillary to lose PA she would have to pull a Milliband and the whole map would look pretty ugly.

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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    moniker wrote: »
    The Ender wrote: »
    Absalon wrote: »
    So if it is Clinton vs. Trump, she might now have Obama's turnout and support among black voters. Add a hefty advantage among latino/as to that.

    ...Does Mr. Trump care, though?

    If he has Team White People on board, and he is (probably) targeting Florida & Ohio... why give a shit about minority voters? He can count on a sizeable chunk of Latino voters in Florida anyway because there are a lot of shithead expats from Cuba and/or Venezuela that will vote straight ticket right wing regardless of any other considerations.

    It's not like he's trying to win NYC.

    What do you think his EC map is going to look like?

    The solid republican states and a few toss-ups in the midwest?

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    I should add that for Hillary to lose PA she would have to pull a Milliband and the whole map would look pretty ugly.

    The AFL-CIO declined to endorse Clinton, partially because the leadership were split between her and Sanders but mostly because the vast majority of the rank and file were for Trump. That's worrisome when it comes to Pennsylvania and Ohio.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    What about Trump has indicated that he's willing to cross the aisle?

    He made a pretty big display about it during the debate this week. He was knocking Cruz for being so ideological that he'd rather fail than compromise.

    He also went moderate on Israel, criticized the GOP for wanting people to die in the streets for lack of health care, and has said nice things about Bernie Sanders views on free trade. One of the reasons the GOP is freaking out right now is that Trump is throwing a ton of their favorite ideas in the dumpster.

    There's a reason that "Trump is a Democrat!" remains one of Ted Cruz's attack lines.

    Yep. The fact that the loud orange racist isn't the worst candidate on the stage should tell the GOP establishment something.

    It won't.

    But it should.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    2012 post-mortem: we need to appeal more to latinos, stop saying crazy shit about women, quit alienating monority voters, and offer viable legislative solutions

    2016:
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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    What has Trump said that should make anybody think anything he says can be trusted to mean more than only how he would like to be seen?

    On healthcare, he has the same nonsolutions as the rest of the party. On nearly everything, there is little consistency. Wanting to go to war to steal resources has been fairly constant, but the target shifts as shown by being for intervention in Libya before having always been against it.

    A lack of consistency on things other than tone does not actually indicate a good ability to compromise.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    What has Trump said that should make anybody think anything he says can be trusted to mean more than only how he would like to be seen?

    On healthcare, he has the same nonsolutions as the rest of the party. On nearly everything, there is little consistency. Wanting to go to war to steal resources has been fairly constant, but the target shifts as shown by being for intervention in Libya before having always been against it.

    A lack of consistency on things other than tone does not actually I dicate a good ability to compromise.

    I trust trump at the least to be cool with the things he supports that are outside the main talking points of the GOP

    if he wants to stand up for Planned Parenthood, healthcare, legislative compromise, and speak out against the Iraq War, that makes him automatically better than 100% of the people he ran against

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    He won't stand up for PP.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    What has Trump said that should make anybody think anything he says can be trusted to mean more than only how he would like to be seen?

    On healthcare, he has the same nonsolutions as the rest of the party. On nearly everything, there is little consistency. Wanting to go to war to steal resources has been fairly constant, but the target shifts as shown by being for intervention in Libya before having always been against it.

    A lack of consistency on things other than tone does not actually I dicate a good ability to compromise.

    You are preaching to the choir. We are just pointing out that Trump is making tactical decisions to appear moderate on key issues, and that seems to be both freaking out the GOP and making an impression on voters.

    The man is no shit, no hyperbole running as a fascist strongman. He's using the rhetoric, copying the mannerisms and bullying the shit out of his opponents. The important thing to realize about all of his moderate pronouncements are that they are in the first person - Trump is moderate and will make a deal with Israel and the Palestinians, Trump does not believe in free trade, Trump believes in good healthcare.

    He's never talking about compromise. He's simply signalling that, on some issues, his opinions are closer to the American public at large than the stock GOP line.

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    DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    2012 post-mortem: we need to appeal more to latinos, stop saying crazy shit about women, quit alienating monority voters, and offer viable legislative solutions

    2016:
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    This last bit is literally impossible. Even if they gave up ALL the culture war shit, the only remaining conservative position is "Tax cuts!" which doesn't actually solve problems.

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    scherbchenscherbchen Asgard (it is dead)Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    Tomanta wrote: »
    TryCatcher wrote: »
    Gator wrote: »
    Absalon wrote: »
    Am I a bad person if I'm both happy Trump is showing his true colors and a bit disappointed that he really screwed up somewhat too early in the primary to still be guaranteed to take the nomination?

    If Rubio takes it now, he can be the guy that kept the villain from getting close to the presidency after everyone else counted him out. His own brand of evil and demagoguery would look tame compared to Trump who has dominated the airwaves for several months.

    Dude. Trump's been practically nominated already. Him retweeting Mussolini will not change a thing.
    Also, is the man that got away with saying the opposite of his policy paper on a debate and then got to walk that back the next day without issue. Who's going to call him on it? The media sure won't, specially since Gawker is radioactive.

    We can learn something about why he is winning from this exchange with Chuck Todd:
    TODD: Do you want to be associated with a fascist?

    TRUMP: No, I want to be associated with interesting quotes, and people, I have almost fourteen million people between Instagram and Facebook and Twitter, and all of that and we do interesting things. And I sent it out, and it certainly got your attention didn’t it?

    He just wants to be associated with interesting quotes...

    Trump: "I know the best quotes."

    "I've got quotes so good they'll make your head spin! I know all the top quote guys! We're gonna have a list of quotes so amazing, it's gonna be yuge! You've never seen so many great quotes!"

    "I'm gonna have so many great quotes you are going to get bored with how great they are. And I'll make IMDB pay for them."

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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    edited February 2016
    He won't stand up for PP.
    Trump wrote:
    "As far as Planned Parenthood is concerned, I'm pro-life, I'm totally against abortion having to do with Planned Parenthood, but millions and millions of women – cervical cancer, breast cancer – are helped by Planned Parenthood.

    “So you can say whatever you want, but they have millions of women going through Planned Parenthood that are helped greatly."

    "And I wouldn't fund it. I would defund it because of the abortion factor, which they say is 3 percent – I don't know what percentage it is, but I would defund it because I'm pro-life. But millions of women are helped by Planned Parenthood."

    He appreciates that it helps women but he would defund it anyway because of abortion.

    So this is actually worse than most on the right, because he knows it helps women with all sorts of non-abortion things and wants to make it go away all the same.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    What has Trump said that should make anybody think anything he says can be trusted to mean more than only how he would like to be seen?

    On healthcare, he has the same nonsolutions as the rest of the party. On nearly everything, there is little consistency. Wanting to go to war to steal resources has been fairly constant, but the target shifts as shown by being for intervention in Libya before having always been against it.

    A lack of consistency on things other than tone does not actually I dicate a good ability to compromise.

    I trust trump at the least to be cool with the things he supports that are outside the main talking points of the GOP

    if he wants to stand up for Planned Parenthood, healthcare, legislative compromise, and speak out against the Iraq War, that makes him automatically better than 100% of the people he ran against

    He says he will defund PP, and the only thing he seems to dislike about the Iraq War is that the US did not steal the oil.

    Trump has shown he is willing to reverse himself on issues he is not concerned with. Assuming he is elected, he is not going to have to work with a Democratic Congress where he might shift again. Even with a Democratic Congress, he seems to be obsessed with being the alpha dog.

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    V1mV1m Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Christ, Glenn Beck is some kind of weird psychopath. I can't stand Donald Trump, but at least I'm reasonably sure Trump isn't a serial killer on the side.

    It seems like this is the electability threshold now: "Probably not a serial killer. Probably."

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    MillMill Registered User regular
    I sent my absentee ballot out for Virginia's primary yesterday. I didn't vote in the Republican one because I find all the candidates to vile. Now that Virginia has fixed it's bullshit primary rules, I can safely say, if we had a incumbent Democratic candidate, I would take part in the democratic primary, even if my vote was meaningless instead of the 2016 GOP primary because the candidates are just so fucking vile.
    I should add that for Hillary to lose PA she would have to pull a Milliband and the whole map would look pretty ugly.

    The AFL-CIO declined to endorse Clinton, partially because the leadership were split between her and Sanders but mostly because the vast majority of the rank and file were for Trump. That's worrisome when it comes to Pennsylvania and Ohio.

    I'm not entirely sure this is as troublesome as it sounds. I think those are votes that probably would have gone in 2016 and have been doing so for years. It's not like Trump has found some new reservoir of voters or gotten a chunk of democratic voters to switch to the GOP for him.

    Anyways, I probably wouldn't focus to hard on how things look until after super Tuesday, when the GOP primary will probably hit a point that we can confidently say X will be the candidate (It's most likely going to be Trump, but I'd prefer to wait for the delegate math to hit a point, where him imploding won't make a damn difference).

    I'm probably going to start hating parts of my job here pretty soon, since I work for an advertising company and I have to classify internet ads and primarily create accounts for ones that don't have them. Luckily, I'm high enough on the chain, that I won't see most of them since we essentially have accounts for most of them, but a few of the ones that do end up in my queue have already made my blood boil.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Honk wrote: »
    Is the white house protected legally like a landmark?

    Wondering in the if case that Trump would win if he'd build a tower there instead.

    The new Trump Tower.

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    What has Trump said that should make anybody think anything he says can be trusted to mean more than only how he would like to be seen?

    On healthcare, he has the same nonsolutions as the rest of the party. On nearly everything, there is little consistency. Wanting to go to war to steal resources has been fairly constant, but the target shifts as shown by being for intervention in Libya before having always been against it.

    A lack of consistency on things other than tone does not actually I dicate a good ability to compromise.

    I trust trump at the least to be cool with the things he supports that are outside the main talking points of the GOP

    if he wants to stand up for Planned Parenthood, healthcare, legislative compromise, and speak out against the Iraq War, that makes him automatically better than 100% of the people he ran against

    He says he will defund PP, and the only thing he seems to dislike about the Iraq War is that the US did not steal the oil.

    Trump has shown he is willing to reverse himself on issues he is not concerned with. Assuming he is elected, he is not going to have to work with a Democratic Congress where he might shift again. Even with a Democratic Congress, he seems to be obsessed with being the alpha dog.

    I remember seeing a link that I unfortunately didn't click that was supposed to be a video from 2003ish of him supporting the Iraq War

    it leads me to remember his response to Colbert offering him the opportunity to publicly accept that Obama is a citizen. Trump said "you know what I do with that? I don't talk about it anymore".

    he can't be wrong because he can't be tied to anything... you can't tie him to what he won't defend or doesn't care about, or you can but frankly it doesn't matter except to people who were already against him.

    point being, I don't think anyone can have half a clue what he's actually going to do if he officially becomes the nominee, let alone if he wins the office.

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    Funny people are starting to figure that anyone in the Atlantic City Casino business and New York real estate in the 80s might have done some business with the mob.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owgPCYGxjfE

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    He won't stand up for PP.
    Trump wrote:
    "As far as Planned Parenthood is concerned, I'm pro-life, I'm totally against abortion having to do with Planned Parenthood, but millions and millions of women – cervical cancer, breast cancer – are helped by Planned Parenthood.

    “So you can say whatever you want, but they have millions of women going through Planned Parenthood that are helped greatly."

    "And I wouldn't fund it. I would defund it because of the abortion factor, which they say is 3 percent – I don't know what percentage it is, but I would defund it because I'm pro-life. But millions of women are helped by Planned Parenthood."

    He appreciates that it helps women but he would defund it anyway because of abortion.

    So this is actually worse than most on the right, because he knows it helps women with all sorts of non-abortion things and wants to make it go away all the same.

    That may be true yet he at least pays lip service to the good it does to the country, which makes Trump a moderate on the issue rather than a typical zealot.

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    Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    It was interesting watching Trump get pushed so hard on his health care plan in the debate last week. Does anybody have some reality-based knowledge on his proposed solution? Well, not the part about repealing the ACA that's dumb, but what about the "let people buy insurance from other states" angle? I'm not familiar enough with the issue to dissect it.

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    It was interesting watching Trump get pushed so hard on his health care plan in the debate last week. Does anybody have some reality-based knowledge on his proposed solution? Well, not the part about repealing the ACA that's dumb, but what about the "let people buy insurance from other states" angle? I'm not familiar enough with the issue to dissect it.

    The entire industry is so regulated, I can't imagine high prices are due to states protecting incumbents and limiting competition. There might be some dollars in it but not enough to really matter.

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    KanaKana Registered User regular
    Trump in 2000
    The new interim head of the Reform Party, Pat Choate, described Mr. Trump as a "hustler" last night, and said he had never believed that Mr. Trump had any interest beyond promoting himself and a new book that happened to be published at exactly the time he started his light schedule of campaign travel.

    ....Mr. Trump painted a fairly dark picture of the Reform Party in his statement, noting the role of Mr. Buchanan, along with the roles of David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, and Lenora Fulani, the former standard-bearer of the New Alliance Party and an advocate of Marxist-Leninist politics. "The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," he said in his statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

    Trump February 28th, 2016
    TAPPER: Will you unequivocally condemn David Duke and say that you don't want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election?

    DONALD TRUMP: Well just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke, OK?....I know nothing about David Duke. I know nothing about white supremacists....

    TAPPER: Would you just say unequivocally you condemn them and you don't want their support?

    TRUMP: Well I have to look at the group. I don't know what group you are talking about, you wouldn't want me to condemn a group that I know nothing about....

    TAPPER: The Ku Klux Klan?....I mean I'm just talking about David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan here.

    TRUMP: I don't know any — honestly I don't know David Duke. I don't believe I've ever met him. I'm pretty sure I didn't meet him, and I just don't know anything about him.

    Donald Trump refuses to condemn the KKK

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    I should add that for Hillary to lose PA she would have to pull a Milliband and the whole map would look pretty ugly.

    The AFL-CIO declined to endorse Clinton, partially because the leadership were split between her and Sanders but mostly because the vast majority of the rank and file were for Trump. That's worrisome when it comes to Pennsylvania and Ohio.

    Yeah that's not true

    For one the AFL-CIO almost never endorses in the primary.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    It was interesting watching Trump get pushed so hard on his health care plan in the debate last week. Does anybody have some reality-based knowledge on his proposed solution? Well, not the part about repealing the ACA that's dumb, but what about the "let people buy insurance from other states" angle? I'm not familiar enough with the issue to dissect it.

    From a Matt Tabibi article on Trump:
    He talks, for instance, about the anti-trust exemption enjoyed by insurance companies, an atrocity dating back more than half a century, to the McCarran-Ferguson Act of 1945. This law, sponsored by one of the most notorious legislators in our history (Nevada Sen. Pat McCarran was thought to be the inspiration for the corrupt Sen. Pat Geary in The Godfather II), allows insurance companies to share information and collude to divvy up markets.

    Neither the Republicans nor the Democrats made a serious effort to overturn this indefensible loophole during the debate over the Affordable Care Act.

    Trump pounds home this theme in his speeches, explaining things from his perspective as an employer. "The insurance companies," he says, "they'd rather have monopolies in each state than hundreds of companies going all over the place bidding ...  It's so hard for me to make deals  ... because I can't get bids."

    He goes on to explain that prices would go down if the state-by-state insurance fiefdoms were eliminated, but that's impossible because of the influence of the industry. "I'm the only one that's self-funding ...  Everyone else is taking money from, I call them the bloodsuckers."

    Trump isn't lying about any of this.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    He won't stand up for PP.

    He said he didn't hate them and they served a valuable role

    Literally zero other GOP candidates would say that much

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    2012 post-mortem: we need to appeal more to latinos, stop saying crazy shit about women, quit alienating monority voters, and offer viable legislative solutions

    2016:
    977fc3a20913c283a3499e4d015e03e835f20d244da91cd4523bcc152b2febda.jpg

    This last bit is literally impossible. Even if they gave up ALL the culture war shit, the only remaining conservative position is "Tax cuts!" which doesn't actually solve problems.

    This is the GOP problem in a nutshell: Bad ideas, bad policy.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    I should add that for Hillary to lose PA she would have to pull a Milliband and the whole map would look pretty ugly.

    The AFL-CIO declined to endorse Clinton, partially because the leadership were split between her and Sanders but mostly because the vast majority of the rank and file were for Trump. That's worrisome when it comes to Pennsylvania and Ohio.

    Yeah that's not true

    For one the AFL-CIO almost never endorses in the primary.

    They were going to vote on making an endorsement, then decided not to. It was pretty big news last week.

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    Trump in 2000
    The new interim head of the Reform Party, Pat Choate, described Mr. Trump as a "hustler" last night, and said he had never believed that Mr. Trump had any interest beyond promoting himself and a new book that happened to be published at exactly the time he started his light schedule of campaign travel.

    ....Mr. Trump painted a fairly dark picture of the Reform Party in his statement, noting the role of Mr. Buchanan, along with the roles of David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, and Lenora Fulani, the former standard-bearer of the New Alliance Party and an advocate of Marxist-Leninist politics. "The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr. Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," he said in his statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

    Trump February 28th, 2016
    TAPPER: Will you unequivocally condemn David Duke and say that you don't want his vote or that of other white supremacists in this election?

    DONALD TRUMP: Well just so you understand, I don't know anything about David Duke, OK?....I know nothing about David Duke. I know nothing about white supremacists....

    TAPPER: Would you just say unequivocally you condemn them and you don't want their support?

    TRUMP: Well I have to look at the group. I don't know what group you are talking about, you wouldn't want me to condemn a group that I know nothing about....

    TAPPER: The Ku Klux Klan?....I mean I'm just talking about David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan here.

    TRUMP: I don't know any — honestly I don't know David Duke. I don't believe I've ever met him. I'm pretty sure I didn't meet him, and I just don't know anything about him.

    Donald Trump refuses to condemn the KKK

    People who like Trump read this as Donald Trump refuses to dance to Jake Tapper's tune.

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    Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    He won't stand up for PP.

    He said he didn't hate them and they served a valuable role

    Literally zero other GOP candidates would say that much

    You're right, he did admit that it helps millions of women, but then he said that he would just go ahead and defund it anyway in the next sentence because fuck it, I guess?

    Somehow, I'm not even sure if that's better or worse.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Isn't saying you do not know about the KKK like saying you do not know about the Nazis at least in America?

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    The KKK's got three-piece suits.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1lUhfsdeyo

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Isn't saying you do not know about the KKK like saying you do not know about the Nazis at least in America?

    They are alike in the sense that they are both obvious lies, yes

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    Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Couscous wrote: »
    Isn't saying you do not know about the KKK like saying you do not know about the Nazis at least in America?

    It's like saying you keep your head buried up your own ass you can't notice anything over the sound of your own farts.

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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Party solidarity is the main thing that keeps Republicans from crossing the aisle, at least for the congresscritters who are not ideologically bound to burn government to the ground (which is approximately 1/3 of GOP congresscritters).

    Trump has no party solidarity and has indicated that the GOP establishment can suck his dick, so it's not impossible that he'll compromise here and there with Democrats. Certainly more likely than Rubio or Cruz ever doing so (they will not).

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    themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    Party solidarity is the main thing that keeps Republicans from crossing the aisle, at least for the congresscritters who are not ideologically bound to burn government to the ground (which is approximately 1/3 of GOP congresscritters).

    Trump has no party solidarity and has indicated that the GOP establishment can suck his dick, so it's not impossible that he'll compromise here and there with Democrats. Certainly more likely than Rubio or Cruz ever doing so (they will not).

    This is why the Dems will win by the way. Obama is the first Dem since Carter to top 50% of the popular vote. It helps when the right is at war with themselves.

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    Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
    edited February 2016
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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Who knows what he'll do?

    I approve of him saying "Medicare and social security is cool" but that isn't a predictor of anything.

    I want him to be the nominee because I think Rubio could beat Clinton handily while Trump would likely lose and his taking the nomination would completely change US politics for the better, albeit after a period of chaos.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Party solidarity is the main thing that keeps Republicans from crossing the aisle, at least for the congresscritters who are not ideologically bound to burn government to the ground (which is approximately 1/3 of GOP congresscritters).

    Trump has no party solidarity and has indicated that the GOP establishment can suck his dick, so it's not impossible that he'll compromise here and there with Democrats. Certainly more likely than Rubio or Cruz ever doing so (they will not).

    This is why the Dems will win by the way. Obama is the first Dem since Carter to top 50% of the popular vote. It helps when the right is at war with themselves.

    I think that every American in this thread, no matter how they feel about the nominee, should investigate how they can donate their time to the Democratic presidential campaign when the general election rolls around. I feel like I am doomsaying a bit, but I do not have any of the confidence some do when it comes to the Democrats just rolling over the Trump campaign.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Who knows what he'll do?

    I approve of him saying "Medicare and social security is cool" but that isn't a predictor of anything.

    I want him to be the nominee because I think Rubio could beat Clinton handily while Trump would likely lose and his taking the nomination would completely change US politics for the better, albeit after a period of chaos.

    Hahaha yeah and Marco was the real winner of the primaries so far, come on Rubio trips on his dick about literally everything.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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