“So here’s the one tweet he put out, he put out a picture of me having makeup put on me at the debate, which is amazing me to me, that the guy with the worst spray tan in America is attacking me for putting on makeup. Donald Trump likes to sue people; he should sue whoever did that to his face.”
This guy is the real winner from contests... this guy, that tells jokes like Andrew Dice Clay respects women.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I honestly think their best bet would be to just cut ties with this race altogether and pour as much funding as possible into down-ticket races. Urge big donors to ignore the presidential race and give to contested congressional seats as much as possible. Part of the reason Obama has been so successful in his second term is that he kind of said 'fuck it' to needing political capital to do things, which I don't think Hillary could or would do if she makes it in, so keeping their current legislative stranglehold and trying to tie as many negative happenings on Clinton as they can over the next four years seems like the best way to rebuild.
While still hopeful that Mr. Rubio might prevail, Mr. McConnell has begun preparing senators for the prospect of a Trump nomination, assuring them that, if it threatened to harm them in the general election, they could run negative ads about Mr. Trump to create space between him and Republican senators seeking re-election. Mr. McConnell has raised the possibility of treating Mr. Trump’s loss as a given and describing a Republican Senate to voters as a necessary check on a President Hillary Clinton, according to senators at the lunches.
They obviously don't believe this too whole-heartedly, or they wouldn't be playing the SCOTUS game as they are
The SCOTUS game can work for them even if they all believe Trump cannot win. For the base, it is a reason to vote even for the people that don't like Trump. Candidates who are in areas where the SCOTUS game is harmful down ticket can make themselves look more moderate by openly attacking Trump while being safe in the knowledge that they won't have to actually walk the walk. Senators up for reelection can just talk about how the Republicans should allow for a nominee to make it to the Senate to be voted on while not having to worry about having to actually vote for a nominee before the election as long as the Senate judiciary committee won't let a nominee through before the elections. Once Trump fails, they could then cave.
The turnout game cuts both ways. It also sets a horrendous precedent which will bite the Rs in the ass eventually, should they be so lucky to exist as a party that long. It's also just plain poor governance, which apparently isn't much of a concern, but really, should be one.
The Senate R's are playing one move ahead, intead of three, which is a big mistake.
I am not sure how much it will help Democratic turnout anymore than the possibility of a Trump presidency will.
The Republican candidates, assuming they care more about surviving individually than the health of the party long term, can rationally be making decisions that will cause severe long term harm to the Republican party. At the risk of coming off as a social Darwinist, they could just be committing the political equivalent of evolutionary suicide, where the process of adaptation can cause the population to become extinct.
Irony: Evolution leading to extinction of those who do not believe in it.
I think a Hillary/Trump primary would be a huge turnout, between the unbridled hate the republicans have for Clinton and the terror at the thought of a Trump presidency democrats have.
It'd be amusing, at least, though I'd probably just get rid of my TV and newspaper subscriptions for eight years if either of those became our president. Oh well, burn it down!
The major banks, for their part, say they are leery of lending to him after having lost millions of dollars on past deals. Lawyers and contractors he has hired in the past say he is slow to pay his bills, and often shortchanges them. Even the few Wall Street executives who say privately that he is a friend are loath to speak publicly about him.
Besides the legal battles, the way Mr. Trump has managed business relationships has been a source of friction.
One contractor, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of being sued by Mr. Trump, said Mr. Trump underpaid on one large job, at one of his towers, by almost $100,000. The contractor opted not to sue, estimating the litigation would cost more than the losses. The two parties have not done business since.
Lawyers who spoke to The Times had similar stories.
Mr. Trump revels in his reputation, boasting about not paying some of his outstanding legal and construction bills. “If they do a bad job, they have to suffer,” he said. “If they overbill me or if they don’t do a good job, I take plenty of time to pay them and I negotiate with them.”
One New York institution Mr. Trump has been forced to deal with is Wall Street. Here bank executives are cautious, citing his previous bankruptcies and his propensity for litigation.
Most businesspeople are cheap and crooked, maybe america should realize this.
What worries me is that they do. It's not like Trump is some unknown quantity waiting for a shocking expose that he's a scumbag.
Trump has been in the headlines and tabloids for years. Movies were using Trump as a punchline before many people on this forum were born. This is his IMDB page.
I think the GOP is going to hit Donald Trump like he was a normal politician. They're going to be digging up stuff that half of his fans already read in the unauthorized biographies. For all that people say that Clinton has been vetted, this country has spent far more time starring into Donald's soul.
Most businesspeople are cheap and crooked, maybe america should realize this.
We will not rest until we have the cheapest and most crooked businesspeople in the world, America #1, wooooooo
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The turnout game cuts both ways. It also sets a horrendous precedent which will bite the Rs in the ass eventually, should they be so lucky to exist as a party that long.
No? I think you overestimate how little relationship there is between Republican policy and reality. They can do something that benefits them that is unprecedented and batshit insane and obviously bad governance and claim it was the Founding Father's idea and the way it has always been done and just plain normal. Then if it's ever done against them, they will claim it's undemocratic and unconstitutional and unamerican and something that has never been done or imagined in the history of the USA, completely obliviously to the fact they did it themselves not that long ago.
And the troops will eat it up, and the media won't challenge it, and the opponents will be called whiny and brushed aside for pointing it out.
Not sure it's been posted already, but there's a great article in the NYT today about how the GOP is flailing in the face of Trump. They're freaking the fuck out. Among other things, Mitch McConnell is trying to band together all the GOP congresspeople to get them to preemptively declare they won't work with The Donald, ever.
I mean... I know that Trump is ultimately terrible for the civics of the USA and it's pretty tragic that he's made it this far, but... it's just really gratifying to watch the karmic justice he's inflicting on the GOP.
Not sure it's been posted already, but there's a great article in the NYT today about how the GOP is flailing in the face of Trump. They're freaking the fuck out. Among other things, Mitch McConnell is trying to band together all the GOP congresspeople to get them to preemptively declare they won't work with The Donald, ever.
I mean... I know that Trump is ultimately terrible for the civics of the USA and it's pretty tragic that he's made it this bar, but... it's just really gratifying to watch the karmic justice he's inflicting on the GOP.
It would be kind of nice though to see them come up with some response other than "We won't work with X, ever"
The turnout game cuts both ways. It also sets a horrendous precedent which will bite the Rs in the ass eventually, should they be so lucky to exist as a party that long.
No? I think you overestimate how little relationship there is between Republican policy and reality. They can do something that benefits them that is unprecedented and batshit insane and obviously bad governance and claim it was the Founding Father's idea and the way it has always been done and just plain normal. Then if it's ever done against them, they will claim it's undemocratic and unconstitutional and unamerican and something that has never been done or imagined in the history of the USA, completely obliviously to the fact they did it themselves not that long ago.
And the troops will eat it up, and the media won't challenge it, and the opponents will be called whiny and brushed aside for pointing it out.
You'll have to be more specific than no. What are you disagreeing with?
“So here’s the one tweet he put out, he put out a picture of me having makeup put on me at the debate, which is amazing me to me, that the guy with the worst spray tan in America is attacking me for putting on makeup. Donald Trump likes to sue people; he should sue whoever did that to his face.”
This guy is the real winner from contests... this guy, that tells jokes like Andrew Dice Clay respects women.
In his defense, that's the kind of bullshit primary voters want. They want someone who will just be an overt dick, because lol alpha male.
I mean, he's awful at it - it reads like a shitty insult comic riff from the 80s - but I can't fault him for trying.
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“So here’s the one tweet he put out, he put out a picture of me having makeup put on me at the debate, which is amazing me to me, that the guy with the worst spray tan in America is attacking me for putting on makeup. Donald Trump likes to sue people; he should sue whoever did that to his face.”
This guy is the real winner from contests... this guy, that tells jokes like Andrew Dice Clay respects women.
In his defense, that's the kind of bullshit primary voters want. They want someone who will just be an overt dick, because lol alpha male.
I mean, he's awful at it - it reads like a shitty insult comic riff from the 80s - but I can't fault him for trying.
Rubio's whole vibe is suburban soccer dad who has finally had enough, dammit. He sounds like he just wants the refs to call Donald in violation so everyone can go back to the real primary.
The turnout game cuts both ways. It also sets a horrendous precedent which will bite the Rs in the ass eventually, should they be so lucky to exist as a party that long.
No? I think you overestimate how little relationship there is between Republican policy and reality. They can do something that benefits them that is unprecedented and batshit insane and obviously bad governance and claim it was the Founding Father's idea and the way it has always been done and just plain normal. Then if it's ever done against them, they will claim it's undemocratic and unconstitutional and unamerican and something that has never been done or imagined in the history of the USA, completely obliviously to the fact they did it themselves not that long ago.
And the troops will eat it up, and the media won't challenge it, and the opponents will be called whiny and brushed aside for pointing it out.
You'll have to be more specific than no. What are you disagreeing with?
That the SCOTUS game they're playing will come back to bite them in the ass next time they have the opportunity to appoint a judge and the Dems can block them. I thought that's what you were saying?
Not sure it's been posted already, but there's a great article in the NYT today about how the GOP is flailing in the face of Trump. They're freaking the fuck out. Among other things, Mitch McConnell is trying to band together all the GOP congresspeople to get them to preemptively declare they won't work with The Donald, ever.
I mean... I know that Trump is ultimately terrible for the civics of the USA and it's pretty tragic that he's made it this bar, but... it's just really gratifying to watch the karmic justice he's inflicting on the GOP.
At a meeting of Republican governors the next morning, Paul R. LePage of Maine called for action. Seated at a long boardroom table at the Willard Hotel, he erupted in frustration over the state of the 2016 race, saying Mr. Trump’s nomination would deeply wound the Republican Party. Mr. LePage urged the governors to draft an open letter “to the people,” disavowing Mr. Trump and his divisive brand of politics.
Not sure it's been posted already, but there's a great article in the NYT today about how the GOP is flailing in the face of Trump. They're freaking the fuck out. Among other things, Mitch McConnell is trying to band together all the GOP congresspeople to get them to preemptively declare they won't work with The Donald, ever.
I mean... I know that Trump is ultimately terrible for the civics of the USA and it's pretty tragic that he's made it this bar, but... it's just really gratifying to watch the karmic justice he's inflicting on the GOP.
At a meeting of Republican governors the next morning, Paul R. LePage of Maine called for action. Seated at a long boardroom table at the Willard Hotel, he erupted in frustration over the state of the 2016 race, saying Mr. Trump’s nomination would deeply wound the Republican Party. Mr. LePage urged the governors to draft an open letter “to the people,” disavowing Mr. Trump and his divisive brand of politics.
I'd love to see the thought process behind that pivot.
Not sure it's been posted already, but there's a great article in the NYT today about how the GOP is flailing in the face of Trump. They're freaking the fuck out. Among other things, Mitch McConnell is trying to band together all the GOP congresspeople to get them to preemptively declare they won't work with The Donald, ever.
I mean... I know that Trump is ultimately terrible for the civics of the USA and it's pretty tragic that he's made it this bar, but... it's just really gratifying to watch the karmic justice he's inflicting on the GOP.
At a meeting of Republican governors the next morning, Paul R. LePage of Maine called for action. Seated at a long boardroom table at the Willard Hotel, he erupted in frustration over the state of the 2016 race, saying Mr. Trump’s nomination would deeply wound the Republican Party. Mr. LePage urged the governors to draft an open letter “to the people,” disavowing Mr. Trump and his divisive brand of politics.
I'd love to see the thought process behind that pivot.
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Not sure it's been posted already, but there's a great article in the NYT today about how the GOP is flailing in the face of Trump. They're freaking the fuck out. Among other things, Mitch McConnell is trying to band together all the GOP congresspeople to get them to preemptively declare they won't work with The Donald, ever.
I mean... I know that Trump is ultimately terrible for the civics of the USA and it's pretty tragic that he's made it this bar, but... it's just really gratifying to watch the karmic justice he's inflicting on the GOP.
At a meeting of Republican governors the next morning, Paul R. LePage of Maine called for action. Seated at a long boardroom table at the Willard Hotel, he erupted in frustration over the state of the 2016 race, saying Mr. Trump’s nomination would deeply wound the Republican Party. Mr. LePage urged the governors to draft an open letter “to the people,” disavowing Mr. Trump and his divisive brand of politics.
I'd love to see the thought process behind that pivot.
Lepage is a terrible politician. Like beyond being an outward racist bully, he's more than a little bit an idiot. Maine should be embarrassed even if an independent was splitting the vote.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Not sure it's been posted already, but there's a great article in the NYT today about how the GOP is flailing in the face of Trump. They're freaking the fuck out. Among other things, Mitch McConnell is trying to band together all the GOP congresspeople to get them to preemptively declare they won't work with The Donald, ever.
I mean... I know that Trump is ultimately terrible for the civics of the USA and it's pretty tragic that he's made it this bar, but... it's just really gratifying to watch the karmic justice he's inflicting on the GOP.
At a meeting of Republican governors the next morning, Paul R. LePage of Maine called for action. Seated at a long boardroom table at the Willard Hotel, he erupted in frustration over the state of the 2016 race, saying Mr. Trump’s nomination would deeply wound the Republican Party. Mr. LePage urged the governors to draft an open letter “to the people,” disavowing Mr. Trump and his divisive brand of politics.
I'd love to see the thought process behind that pivot.
From what I know of LePage, I don't think any sane person wants to see any of his thought processes.
That being said, there's an interesting Vox mini-article mostly about him.
Take-away quotes:
LePage's flip-flop isn't necessarily a bellwether for other anti-Trump Republican figures like Karl Rove. LePage is a bit of a loose cannon, to say the least; it's actually more surprising that he ever opposed Trump than that he ultimately endorsed him.
and...
That's the most damning thing about the New York Times' LePage anecdote: he suggested that governors get together and write an open letter, but the other governors apparently weren't willing to go that far. If the person who is willing to stick his neck out to stop Trump defects to the pro-Trump side, who, exactly, do Republicans expect is going to stop him?
My guess is that experience led him to believe that the establishment is not going to effectively oppose Trump. Also, by getting behind Trump early when Trump actually needs endorsements, he sets himself up for a cabinet position or Ambassador to France if Trump wins.
For context, if it hasn't been brought up, LePen is the leader of a French White Nationalist group.
Is also an old trick for organizations and even countries. Let the ex-leadership say the controversial statements while the current leadership sounds as moderate as possible. That's why National Front isn't currently endorsing Trump, you see?
Front National has been lead by his daughter for a while now. JM Le Pen has gone increasingly crazy with age, and his daughter tried to sue him to prevent him from speaking at the Front National convention.
I mean, he's a famous French wingnut still, but he currently leads no party and is considered toxic as the party tries to not be openly racist.
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This guy is the real winner from contests... this guy, that tells jokes like Andrew Dice Clay respects women.
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Seriously, at times he makes Jeb! look competent.
Both of those two being elected florida politicians makes me think less of florida. Like I didn't think that was possible, but here we are.
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I think a Hillary/Trump primary would be a huge turnout, between the unbridled hate the republicans have for Clinton and the terror at the thought of a Trump presidency democrats have.
It'd be amusing, at least, though I'd probably just get rid of my TV and newspaper subscriptions for eight years if either of those became our president. Oh well, burn it down!
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/07/13/nyregion/trump-says-he-didn-t-know-he-employed-illegal-aliens.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/14/nyregion/after-15-years-in-court-workers-lawsuit-against-trump-faces-yet-another-delay.html?pagewanted=all
What makes the New York establishment not like him was on full display there.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/nyregion/donald-trump-nyc.html
What worries me is that they do. It's not like Trump is some unknown quantity waiting for a shocking expose that he's a scumbag.
Trump has been in the headlines and tabloids for years. Movies were using Trump as a punchline before many people on this forum were born. This is his IMDB page.
I think the GOP is going to hit Donald Trump like he was a normal politician. They're going to be digging up stuff that half of his fans already read in the unauthorized biographies. For all that people say that Clinton has been vetted, this country has spent far more time starring into Donald's soul.
We will not rest until we have the cheapest and most crooked businesspeople in the world, America #1, wooooooo
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So now they're going to do it harder or something. I mean, good luck with that, definition of insanity yadda yadda.
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Well when everything you do is a win its hard to know what losing is.
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God. He sounds so tired.
No, not really.
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No? I think you overestimate how little relationship there is between Republican policy and reality. They can do something that benefits them that is unprecedented and batshit insane and obviously bad governance and claim it was the Founding Father's idea and the way it has always been done and just plain normal. Then if it's ever done against them, they will claim it's undemocratic and unconstitutional and unamerican and something that has never been done or imagined in the history of the USA, completely obliviously to the fact they did it themselves not that long ago.
And the troops will eat it up, and the media won't challenge it, and the opponents will be called whiny and brushed aside for pointing it out.
I mean... I know that Trump is ultimately terrible for the civics of the USA and it's pretty tragic that he's made it this far, but... it's just really gratifying to watch the karmic justice he's inflicting on the GOP.
It would be kind of nice though to see them come up with some response other than "We won't work with X, ever"
We want to see Rubio and Cruz endorse Trump after he beats them
I want to see them forced to stand on that stage next to him, while he watches them, and endorse Donald J Trump for President. Then maybe hug him.
The look on everyone involved's faces will just be ..... magical.
Wow.
They should just hatefuck already.
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You'll have to be more specific than no. What are you disagreeing with?
In his defense, that's the kind of bullshit primary voters want. They want someone who will just be an overt dick, because lol alpha male.
I mean, he's awful at it - it reads like a shitty insult comic riff from the 80s - but I can't fault him for trying.
Rubio's whole vibe is suburban soccer dad who has finally had enough, dammit. He sounds like he just wants the refs to call Donald in violation so everyone can go back to the real primary.
That the SCOTUS game they're playing will come back to bite them in the ass next time they have the opportunity to appoint a judge and the Dems can block them. I thought that's what you were saying?
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Is that selfie of the teenager above Neil Turner's name Neil Turner?
I'd love to see the thought process behind that pivot.
"...You know, if the Night of the Long Knives is coming, I think I'd rather not get stabbed,"
Lepage is a terrible politician. Like beyond being an outward racist bully, he's more than a little bit an idiot. Maine should be embarrassed even if an independent was splitting the vote.
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From what I know of LePage, I don't think any sane person wants to see any of his thought processes.
That being said, there's an interesting Vox mini-article mostly about him.
Take-away quotes:
and...
My guess is that experience led him to believe that the establishment is not going to effectively oppose Trump. Also, by getting behind Trump early when Trump actually needs endorsements, he sets himself up for a cabinet position or Ambassador to France if Trump wins.
"If I was American, I would vote for Donald Trump...may God protect him!"
I mean, he's a famous French wingnut still, but he currently leads no party and is considered toxic as the party tries to not be openly racist.
Still, the sort of person a candidate for president should be actively avoiding an association with. In a rational world...