casting news, but no word on who they're playing(spoilering anyway.)
Jim Broadbent will be joining the show next season. no word on who he'll play or how big a role he'll play but good news none the less. the man is an absolute delight to watch. haven't been this excited by casting news since they added Jonathan Pryce.
Click bait sites saying that winds of winter will be published next march. Nothing on grrm site
This is all traced back to french amazon and it's for the paperback edition. Almost certainly an error, probably of the sort where they put placeholder dates in the system that are much later than any plausible publishing date and forget to remove them when GRRM proves he is implausible.
I've been rewatching the show a fair bit recently, but what I've found has been grabbing me the most this time around is the costumes. It's downright crazy the amount of detail the costume designers have snuck in; from the three headed dragon pins on Dany's shoulders the first time she meets Drogo, to the subtle scale patterns that grow more prominent on her dresses over time as she grows in power, to the embroidered birds Cersei wears as Marcella leaves the nest, there's a whole other sort of writing going on that is virtually impossible to catch the first time around.
The wedding gowns are by far the most impressive. Sansa's gown when she marries Tyrion is a stiff, formal King's Landing style gown filled with elaborate detail showing the wolves of her birth House giving way to the lions of her new House. The embroidery pretty much tells her story up to that point. Meanwhile, Margaery's gown when she marries Joffrey is cut in an informal Reach style and decorated with roses on her train and rose vines climbing from her hem to her shoulders. The only acknowledgement that she's marrying into another house is the antler crown she wears in her hair, and even that is bedecked with roses. Her gown is a powerful statement of her independence, whereas Sansa's is a symbol of surrender.
Yeah the costuming is the best on tv, probably ever. It's so so good.
Personally, I find the Lannister mook uniforms to be the weak link in their portfolio.
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I have recently been rewatching from the start and up to the latter half of season 3.
I had actually forgotten how good this show used to be right out of the gate. So many good performances on top of all the production value, costumes, scenery and of course the stronger part (so far) of the story.
Leana Heady especially has me all giddy, she does the best shit-eating grin. Peter Dinklage is of course excellent and who does not like Emilia Clarke speaking made-up languages but what really gets me are the kid actors. Maisie Williams just hits it out of the park constantly.
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The scenes between Maisie Williams and Charles Dance were the real Emmy performances of Season 2, if you ask me.
They were also a fantastic example of great writing that didn't come from the books.
[Edit: Here's the scene! The end is the best part.]
The scenes between Maisie Williams and Charles Dance were the real Emmy performances of Season 2, if you ask me.
They were also a fantastic example of great writing that didn't come from the books.
[Edit: Here's the scene! The end is the best part.]
Also:
Which is why it was so bizarre that we got dah bad poo say when we know they can write good non-book scenes.
It's also why I get annoyed when people start saying that any criticism of the show is just vague hating of any deviation from the books. These scenes have great writing, and great acting besides. "Good girl bad pussy" is just atrocious, both from a dialogue standpoint but also in the sense of furthering the story or the setting.
The scenes between Maisie Williams and Charles Dance were the real Emmy performances of Season 2, if you ask me.
They were also a fantastic example of great writing that didn't come from the books.
[Edit: Here's the scene! The end is the best part.]
Also:
Which is why it was so bizarre that we got dah bad poo say when we know they can write good non-book scenes.
It's also why I get annoyed when people start saying that any criticism of the show is just vague hating of any deviation from the books. These scenes have great writing, and great acting besides. "Good girl bad pussy" is just atrocious, both from a dialogue standpoint but also in the sense of furthering the story or the setting.
Yeah, I'd say that's probably the worst line in the show and it's not even close.
I remember those Arya/Tywin scenes came in for some stick in the thread for 'not moving the story along' or something equally silly so the larger point of 'all TV show only scenes are rubbish in some way' could be vomited up.
I think the main guy saying it was banned for being an alt, but he wasn't the only one. The TV show has flaws, and also there are people who treat any deviation as a flaw.
The scenes between Maisie Williams and Charles Dance were the real Emmy performances of Season 2, if you ask me.
They were also a fantastic example of great writing that didn't come from the books.
[Edit: Here's the scene! The end is the best part.]
Also:
Which is why it was so bizarre that we got dah bad poo say when we know they can write good non-book scenes.
It's also why I get annoyed when people start saying that any criticism of the show is just vague hating of any deviation from the books. These scenes have great writing, and great acting besides. "Good girl bad pussy" is just atrocious, both from a dialogue standpoint but also in the sense of furthering the story or the setting.
Yeah, I'd say that's probably the worst line in the show and it's not even close.
Just...god what a terribly ill-conceived moment.
The 2nd sentence could go for everything Dorne apart from Oberyn.
The scenes between Maisie Williams and Charles Dance were the real Emmy performances of Season 2, if you ask me.
They were also a fantastic example of great writing that didn't come from the books.
[Edit: Here's the scene! The end is the best part.]
Also:
Which is why it was so bizarre that we got dah bad poo say when we know they can write good non-book scenes.
It's also why I get annoyed when people start saying that any criticism of the show is just vague hating of any deviation from the books. These scenes have great writing, and great acting besides. "Good girl bad pussy" is just atrocious, both from a dialogue standpoint but also in the sense of furthering the story or the setting.
Yeah, I'd say that's probably the worst line in the show and it's not even close.
Just...god what a terribly ill-conceived moment.
The 2nd sentence could go for everything Dorne apart from Oberyn.
Yeah, I really wanted to like the Dorne stuff, but boy did it fight me every step of the way. (And this is as a non-book reader.)
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
The weird thing with Dorne is that I was actually pretty excited for the show to go there. It has some problems in the book, but that's often what the show has been good at, understanding what didn't quite work in the book and revamping it so it flows better. And Dorne had a bunch of interesting raw material to work with, it's a much more egalitarian society, and although it takes a while to get there the way it ties into the other characters' plots and backstories is actually pretty interesting.
Aaaaand instead it didn't really touch any of that. Areo Hotah shows up but does nothing, they get a good actor for the prince of dorne and he does nothing either. Instead of confidently characterizing the sand snakes they just give them different goofy weapons. It just felt like they needed something for Jaime to do for a while, it was the kind of shuffling the pieces around sort of move that Game of Thrones (both book and show) has usually been so fantastic at avoiding, that tended to elevate its plotting above other multi-season TV stories.
(Another bit that was like that was the Hound's good buddy Septon I'm Just Here to Die.)
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
I remember those Arya/Tywin scenes came in for some stick in the thread for 'not moving the story along' or something equally silly so the larger point of 'all TV show only scenes are rubbish in some way' could be vomited up.
I think the main guy saying it was banned for being an alt, but he wasn't the only one. The TV show has flaws, and also there are people who treat any deviation as a flaw.
This is really disheartening. Those posts are still here, you can look them up. Nobody had nefarious reasons to dislike these scenes, they simply disagree with you.
I don't like those scenes because Tywin isn't consistent with his character from the rest of the show. This makes the scenes feel ancillary. It's like a bubble. Tywin is terrible to his kids, ruthless to his rivals (is kind to a potentially valuable hostage and never questions her parentage, even though he knows she's noble) plans the Red Wedding, is terrible to his kids some more, never says boo about the time he caught a girl fitting the description of runaway Arya, then he dies. I just don't think this is how Tywin would act in this situation.
The scenes between Maisie Williams and Charles Dance were the real Emmy performances of Season 2, if you ask me.
They were also a fantastic example of great writing that didn't come from the books.
[Edit: Here's the scene! The end is the best part.]
Also:
Which is why it was so bizarre that we got dah bad poo say when we know they can write good non-book scenes.
It's also why I get annoyed when people start saying that any criticism of the show is just vague hating of any deviation from the books. These scenes have great writing, and great acting besides. "Good girl bad pussy" is just atrocious, both from a dialogue standpoint but also in the sense of furthering the story or the setting.
I'm one of the people who think that the criticism of the show is over the top in here, but I have no qualms about denigrated the bad pussy line, and really Dorne as a whole. That legit sucked.
In my house, it's usually dead silent during Game of Thrones, except maybe gasps of shock and such, but that line brought out a groan and some comments from everyone in the room.
I remember those Arya/Tywin scenes came in for some stick in the thread for 'not moving the story along' or something equally silly so the larger point of 'all TV show only scenes are rubbish in some way' could be vomited up.
I think the main guy saying it was banned for being an alt, but he wasn't the only one. The TV show has flaws, and also there are people who treat any deviation as a flaw.
This is really disheartening. Those posts are still here, you can look them up. Nobody had nefarious reasons to dislike these scenes, they simply disagree with you.
I don't like those scenes because Tywin isn't consistent with his character from the rest of the show. This makes the scenes feel ancillary. It's like a bubble. Tywin is terrible to his kids, ruthless to his rivals (is kind to a potentially valuable hostage and never questions her parentage, even though he knows she's noble) plans the Red Wedding, is terrible to his kids some more, never says boo about the time he caught a girl fitting the description of runaway Arya, then he dies. I just don't think this is how Tywin would act in this situation.
Well, Arya amused him, and he's otherwise stuck in a castle with no amusements.
His brutality towards his kids isn't because he hates children, it's that they're HIS kids, the future of his dynasty, they're the family business. He has to drive them to greatness at all times, and that overwhelming pressure breaks them all in different ways. But for one of his servants he has no expectations, his enormous force of personality is never brought to bear on her.
Like, Tywin was not an innately evil man, not even really an innately cruel man, at least in the sense of taking any pleasure from it (not that he was an innately good man, either). And it helps fill in a bit of detail from the books that the show simply doesn't have the scope to show - that Tywin had qualities that inspired real loyalty in many of his followers. And that's what Arya finds out, that even though she wants him dead she also can't help but respect the guy.
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A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
I remember those Arya/Tywin scenes came in for some stick in the thread for 'not moving the story along' or something equally silly so the larger point of 'all TV show only scenes are rubbish in some way' could be vomited up.
I think the main guy saying it was banned for being an alt, but he wasn't the only one. The TV show has flaws, and also there are people who treat any deviation as a flaw.
This is really disheartening. Those posts are still here, you can look them up. Nobody had nefarious reasons to dislike these scenes, they simply disagree with you.
I don't like those scenes because Tywin isn't consistent with his character from the rest of the show. This makes the scenes feel ancillary. It's like a bubble. Tywin is terrible to his kids, ruthless to his rivals (is kind to a potentially valuable hostage and never questions her parentage, even though he knows she's noble) plans the Red Wedding, is terrible to his kids some more, never says boo about the time he caught a girl fitting the description of runaway Arya, then he dies. I just don't think this is how Tywin would act in this situation.
Well, Arya amused him, and he's otherwise stuck in a castle with no amusements.
His brutality towards his kids isn't because he hates children, it's that they're HIS kids, the future of his dynasty, they're the family business. He has to drive them to greatness at all times, and that overwhelming pressure breaks them all in different ways. But for one of his servants he has no expectations, his enormous force of personality is never brought to bear on her.
Like, Tywin was not an innately evil man, not even really an innately cruel man, at least in the sense of taking any pleasure from it (not that he was an innately good man, either). And it helps fill in a bit of detail from the books that the show simply doesn't have the scope to show - that Tywin had qualities that inspired real loyalty in many of his followers. And that's what Arya finds out, that even though she wants him dead she also can't help but respect the guy.
Yes. We've been through this. Multiple times. Maybe I wasn't clear. Bogart is claiming that we need to hate changes from book to show, like we're some form of mold on the forums. I don't like the thing he likes, that's not "vomiting up" anything, it's a differing opinion.
Like, Tywin was not an innately evil man, not even really an innately cruel man, at least in the sense of taking any pleasure from it (not that he was an innately good man, either).
Not an evil man, huh? I guess you've forgotten about Tysha (book, television), not to mention the Red Wedding.
Tywin was an awful ratfuck of a person. He was an evil man, he was a cruel man. Just because he showed some decency to a servant girl doesn't absolve him of sin.
Saw this today (a friend shared it from Peter Dinklage's FB page), and it seems pretty apt.
Yes the show will always just be skimming from the top of what the books are able to do. That will always the case with any adaptation. When examined on its own merits though, without just bemoaning the rest that isn't there, it can still be great (and occasionally, like the books I assume, very very bad).
Like, Tywin was not an innately evil man, not even really an innately cruel man, at least in the sense of taking any pleasure from it (not that he was an innately good man, either).
Not an evil man, huh? I guess you've forgotten about Tysha (book, television), not to mention the Red Wedding.
Tywin was an awful ratfuck of a person. He was an evil man, he was a cruel man. Just because he showed some decency to a servant girl doesn't absolve him of sin.
Tywin is a man who does the wrong things for the right reasons. The Red Wedding was in the interest of his family.
Tywin was acting well within the moral bounds of his setting, on a scale of 1 to 10 from good to evil he's probably a 6, with his prideful nature and shitty parenting. He thought the war was stupid but he was in a position where he had to fight it, the red wedding probably saved lives (or would have if everything didn't continue to go to shit).
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video because i can't find a fucking text article.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
No no no
Why would either of those people show up in an episode? This isn't Star Trek!
Harold Zidler and his infamous guards, they called them his Diamond Crows
meh, needs work
That'd be incredible.
Perfect for Starz or HBO.
That's supposed to be getting a tv show, haven't heard news about it for months.
It's okay, I always think of the Russian urban fantasy series
This is all traced back to french amazon and it's for the paperback edition. Almost certainly an error, probably of the sort where they put placeholder dates in the system that are much later than any plausible publishing date and forget to remove them when GRRM proves he is implausible.
The wedding gowns are by far the most impressive. Sansa's gown when she marries Tyrion is a stiff, formal King's Landing style gown filled with elaborate detail showing the wolves of her birth House giving way to the lions of her new House. The embroidery pretty much tells her story up to that point. Meanwhile, Margaery's gown when she marries Joffrey is cut in an informal Reach style and decorated with roses on her train and rose vines climbing from her hem to her shoulders. The only acknowledgement that she's marrying into another house is the antler crown she wears in her hair, and even that is bedecked with roses. Her gown is a powerful statement of her independence, whereas Sansa's is a symbol of surrender.
Personally, I find the Lannister mook uniforms to be the weak link in their portfolio.
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I had actually forgotten how good this show used to be right out of the gate. So many good performances on top of all the production value, costumes, scenery and of course the stronger part (so far) of the story.
Leana Heady especially has me all giddy, she does the best shit-eating grin. Peter Dinklage is of course excellent and who does not like Emilia Clarke speaking made-up languages but what really gets me are the kid actors. Maisie Williams just hits it out of the park constantly.
They were also a fantastic example of great writing that didn't come from the books.
[Edit: Here's the scene! The end is the best part.]
Also:
The Arya/Tywin scenes might still be my favorite part of the series to date.
"Anyone can be killed."
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMNNNNN
Which is why it was so bizarre that we got dah bad poo say when we know they can write good non-book scenes.
It's also why I get annoyed when people start saying that any criticism of the show is just vague hating of any deviation from the books. These scenes have great writing, and great acting besides. "Good girl bad pussy" is just atrocious, both from a dialogue standpoint but also in the sense of furthering the story or the setting.
Yeah, I'd say that's probably the worst line in the show and it's not even close.
Just...god what a terribly ill-conceived moment.
I think the main guy saying it was banned for being an alt, but he wasn't the only one. The TV show has flaws, and also there are people who treat any deviation as a flaw.
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The 2nd sentence could go for everything Dorne apart from Oberyn.
Yeah, I really wanted to like the Dorne stuff, but boy did it fight me every step of the way. (And this is as a non-book reader.)
Jesus, i hate TV!Littlefinger.
Aaaaand instead it didn't really touch any of that. Areo Hotah shows up but does nothing, they get a good actor for the prince of dorne and he does nothing either. Instead of confidently characterizing the sand snakes they just give them different goofy weapons. It just felt like they needed something for Jaime to do for a while, it was the kind of shuffling the pieces around sort of move that Game of Thrones (both book and show) has usually been so fantastic at avoiding, that tended to elevate its plotting above other multi-season TV stories.
(Another bit that was like that was the Hound's good buddy Septon I'm Just Here to Die.)
This is really disheartening. Those posts are still here, you can look them up. Nobody had nefarious reasons to dislike these scenes, they simply disagree with you.
I don't like those scenes because Tywin isn't consistent with his character from the rest of the show. This makes the scenes feel ancillary. It's like a bubble. Tywin is terrible to his kids, ruthless to his rivals (is kind to a potentially valuable hostage and never questions her parentage, even though he knows she's noble) plans the Red Wedding, is terrible to his kids some more, never says boo about the time he caught a girl fitting the description of runaway Arya, then he dies. I just don't think this is how Tywin would act in this situation.
I'm one of the people who think that the criticism of the show is over the top in here, but I have no qualms about denigrated the bad pussy line, and really Dorne as a whole. That legit sucked.
In my house, it's usually dead silent during Game of Thrones, except maybe gasps of shock and such, but that line brought out a groan and some comments from everyone in the room.
Well, Arya amused him, and he's otherwise stuck in a castle with no amusements.
His brutality towards his kids isn't because he hates children, it's that they're HIS kids, the future of his dynasty, they're the family business. He has to drive them to greatness at all times, and that overwhelming pressure breaks them all in different ways. But for one of his servants he has no expectations, his enormous force of personality is never brought to bear on her.
Like, Tywin was not an innately evil man, not even really an innately cruel man, at least in the sense of taking any pleasure from it (not that he was an innately good man, either). And it helps fill in a bit of detail from the books that the show simply doesn't have the scope to show - that Tywin had qualities that inspired real loyalty in many of his followers. And that's what Arya finds out, that even though she wants him dead she also can't help but respect the guy.
Yes. We've been through this. Multiple times. Maybe I wasn't clear. Bogart is claiming that we need to hate changes from book to show, like we're some form of mold on the forums. I don't like the thing he likes, that's not "vomiting up" anything, it's a differing opinion.
Tywin was an awful ratfuck of a person. He was an evil man, he was a cruel man. Just because he showed some decency to a servant girl doesn't absolve him of sin.
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Yes the show will always just be skimming from the top of what the books are able to do. That will always the case with any adaptation. When examined on its own merits though, without just bemoaning the rest that isn't there, it can still be great (and occasionally, like the books I assume, very very bad).
Tywin is a man who does the wrong things for the right reasons. The Red Wedding was in the interest of his family.