They were fired from the Tongchang-ri region, near the North's border with China, the South Korean military said.
The type of missile is unclear but the North is banned from any missile or nuclear tests by the UN.
A South Korean military official said a launch had taken place at 07:36 local time Monday (22:36 GMT Sunday) and was being investigated to determine the type of projectile used.
The US military said later it had detected and tracked a launch but had determined that it did not pose a threat to North America.
State Department acting spokesperson Mark Toner said in a statement: "The United States strongly condemns the DPRK's ballistic missile launches tonight, which violate UN Security Council Resolutions explicitly prohibiting North Korea's launches using ballistic missile technology," using the official name of the country the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).
On Friday, Pyongyang threatened to fire missiles in response to the Foal Eagle military exercises under way between South Korea and the US. The North sees the annual drills as preparation for an invasion against it.
Map of North Korea, Japan
Monday's launches were just the latest in a long series of tests of North Korean missile technology, which experts say is likely to be improving with successive tests.
Should we expect any further response from the WH today or?
I'm gonna go with no.
It isn't the weekend, so he can't talk to key advisers with knowledge of the Sea of Japan like the couple who ordered sushi at table #3.
They were fired from the Tongchang-ri region, near the North's border with China, the South Korean military said.
The type of missile is unclear but the North is banned from any missile or nuclear tests by the UN.
A South Korean military official said a launch had taken place at 07:36 local time Monday (22:36 GMT Sunday) and was being investigated to determine the type of projectile used.
The US military said later it had detected and tracked a launch but had determined that it did not pose a threat to North America.
State Department acting spokesperson Mark Toner said in a statement: "The United States strongly condemns the DPRK's ballistic missile launches tonight, which violate UN Security Council Resolutions explicitly prohibiting North Korea's launches using ballistic missile technology," using the official name of the country the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).
On Friday, Pyongyang threatened to fire missiles in response to the Foal Eagle military exercises under way between South Korea and the US. The North sees the annual drills as preparation for an invasion against it.
Map of North Korea, Japan
Monday's launches were just the latest in a long series of tests of North Korean missile technology, which experts say is likely to be improving with successive tests.
Should we expect any further response from the WH today or?
I'm gonna go with no.
It's not Russia, so assuming Trump sees it on one of his morning shows or something I could expect some heavy handed garbage spewed on twitter about it.
Of course, it could just as easily be something very anti Japanese as well. Like, "Japan can't even protect themselves, USA taking care of them and they take advantage of us in trade so much. SAD!"
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Protip: The war with Korea is ongoing and never ended. We just glare at each other across the DMZ.
Literally! This guy's entire purpose is to stare across the room, fists clenched, like his NK counterpart on the other side of the table is eyeballin' his date in a bar.
(I assume that he actually has some other duties. But from what I've read of the DMZ, guards on the SK side are trained to stand there and look sorta-menacing for hours on end because that'll stave off a war.)
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Protip: The war with Korea is ongoing and never ended. We just glare at each other across the DMZ.
Literally! This guy's entire purpose is to stare across the room, fists clenched, like his NK counterpart on the other side of the table is eyeballin' his date in a bar.
(I assume that he actually has some other duties. But from what I've read of the DMZ, guards on the SK side are trained to stand there and look sorta-menacing for hours on end because that'll stave off a war.)
North Korea have decided to get in on the travel ban shenanigans. Following the furore over Kim Jong-Nam's death, they are now refusing to allow any Malaysians in North Korea to leave the country.
Maybe the extra carrier is Trump thinking forward. He (or somebody in the administration) knows that with the rate of him pissing nations off, there won't be anybody left that wants to host US aircraft.
They were fired from the Tongchang-ri region, near the North's border with China, the South Korean military said.
The type of missile is unclear but the North is banned from any missile or nuclear tests by the UN.
A South Korean military official said a launch had taken place at 07:36 local time Monday (22:36 GMT Sunday) and was being investigated to determine the type of projectile used.
The US military said later it had detected and tracked a launch but had determined that it did not pose a threat to North America.
State Department acting spokesperson Mark Toner said in a statement: "The United States strongly condemns the DPRK's ballistic missile launches tonight, which violate UN Security Council Resolutions explicitly prohibiting North Korea's launches using ballistic missile technology," using the official name of the country the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).
On Friday, Pyongyang threatened to fire missiles in response to the Foal Eagle military exercises under way between South Korea and the US. The North sees the annual drills as preparation for an invasion against it.
Map of North Korea, Japan
Monday's launches were just the latest in a long series of tests of North Korean missile technology, which experts say is likely to be improving with successive tests.
Should we expect any further response from the WH today or?
I'm gonna go with no.
They've sent anti-missile defense systems to South Korea, which has the added bonus of slightly heightening tensions in the region.
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I was with PATRIOT in the army, and I can tell you we already had a permanent presence there. THAAD is useless to SK (targets would be flying in at an inconveniently short range for that system), but it is useful to Japan.
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Protip: The war with Korea is ongoing and never ended. We just glare at each other across the DMZ.
Literally! This guy's entire purpose is to stare across the room, fists clenched, like his NK counterpart on the other side of the table is eyeballin' his date in a bar.
(I assume that he actually has some other duties. But from what I've read of the DMZ, guards on the SK side are trained to stand there and look sorta-menacing for hours on end because that'll stave off a war.)
But after years and years and years of doing this, each season passing, the same shift every day, they slowly cast furtive non-aggressive glances at each other until one day they both abandon their posts and kiss madly.
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Well, yes.
But Trump said everybody should have nukes. So, chalk up another promise kept!
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
It's the breakdown of the nuclear non-proliferation norm that is worrying more than any specific concern about Germany. And yes, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are definite could be nuclear powers whenever they want basically. There are probably some others. Italy would be if they hadn't closed their nuclear power plants.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
It's the breakdown of the nuclear non-proliferation norm that is worrying more than any specific concern about Germany. And yes, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are definite could be nuclear powers whenever they want basically. There are probably some others. Italy would be if they hadn't closed their nuclear power plants.
I think Canada is on that list as well. I doubt we'd ever bother though.
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
It's the breakdown of the nuclear non-proliferation norm that is worrying more than any specific concern about Germany. And yes, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are definite could be nuclear powers whenever they want basically. There are probably some others. Italy would be if they hadn't closed their nuclear power plants.
Germany also closed all of their nuke plants, though, so there might be a lagtime for them in getting the fissile material, unlike Japan who literally produces weapons-grade fuel as the waste from their plants. They could have a massive arsenal very quickly if they wanted.
Protip: The war with Korea is ongoing and never ended. We just glare at each other across the DMZ.
Literally! This guy's entire purpose is to stare across the room, fists clenched, like his NK counterpart on the other side of the table is eyeballin' his date in a bar.
(I assume that he actually has some other duties. But from what I've read of the DMZ, guards on the SK side are trained to stand there and look sorta-menacing for hours on end because that'll stave off a war.)
But after years and years and years of doing this, each season passing, the same shift every day, they slowly cast furtive non-aggressive glances at each other until one day they both abandon their posts and kiss madly.
No, everyone in the DMZ wears dark sunglasses regardless of weatherconditions, so that they can look menacing comfortably. Basically sleeping in class with googly-eyes.
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
It's the breakdown of the nuclear non-proliferation norm that is worrying more than any specific concern about Germany. And yes, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are definite could be nuclear powers whenever they want basically. There are probably some others. Italy would be if they hadn't closed their nuclear power plants.
Germany also closed all of their nuke plants, though, so there might be a lagtime for them in getting the fissile material, unlike Japan who literally produces weapons-grade fuel as the waste from their plants. They could have a massive arsenal very quickly if they wanted.
It's entirely possible they could get it relatively easily from other EU nations
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
It's the breakdown of the nuclear non-proliferation norm that is worrying more than any specific concern about Germany. And yes, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are definite could be nuclear powers whenever they want basically. There are probably some others. Italy would be if they hadn't closed their nuclear power plants.
Germany also closed all of their nuke plants, though, so there might be a lagtime for them in getting the fissile material, unlike Japan who literally produces weapons-grade fuel as the waste from their plants. They could have a massive arsenal very quickly if they wanted.
It's entirely possible they could get it relatively easily from other EU nations
Or from Japan. Like bum said, though, the main concern is the breakdown in nonproliferation. If Iran doesn't have a nuke within four years it'll be a miracle.
Japan might try to amend their self-defense clause to allow for nukes and mecha-godzilla deterents.
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
It's the breakdown of the nuclear non-proliferation norm that is worrying more than any specific concern about Germany. And yes, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are definite could be nuclear powers whenever they want basically. There are probably some others. Italy would be if they hadn't closed their nuclear power plants.
Germany also closed all of their nuke plants, though, so there might be a lagtime for them in getting the fissile material, unlike Japan who literally produces weapons-grade fuel as the waste from their plants. They could have a massive arsenal very quickly if they wanted.
It's entirely possible they could get it relatively easily from other EU nations
Or from Japan. Like bum said, though, the main concern is the breakdown in nonproliferation. If Iran doesn't have a nuke within four years it'll be a miracle.
Japan might try to amend their self-defense clause to allow for nukes and mecha-godzilla deterents.
Well, a miracle or a hulking crater with millions dead. One of those.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
It's the breakdown of the nuclear non-proliferation norm that is worrying more than any specific concern about Germany. And yes, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are definite could be nuclear powers whenever they want basically. There are probably some others. Italy would be if they hadn't closed their nuclear power plants.
I think Canada is on that list as well. I doubt we'd ever bother though.
In the case of Canada, any nuclear strike would be nearly indistinguishable from one on the US until the last second (assuming they're not aiming at the glaciers, anyways).
A significant change in European defence will likely be more catalysed by the UK leaving the EU than the worries about American commitments.
For a long time, Europeans have been interested in some common defence initiatives, but these have always been vetoed by the UK (partly at the behest of the US). The reason was that an EU army would undermine the purpose of NATO, and make the European nations less reliant on US protection.
It's going to be entertaining to see the right-wing salt when the newly armed and operational Europe stops doing whatever the US wants
Alt-Right doesn't care about other countries and the establishment right is too cowardly to stand up to this, so if there's any salt there, it'll all be behind the scenes where we can't see it.
It's going to be entertaining to see the right-wing salt when the newly armed and operational Europe stops doing whatever the US wants
Alt-Right doesn't care about other countries and the establishment right is too cowardly to stand up to this, so if there's any salt there, it'll all be behind the scenes where we can't see it.
Bannon wants the entire post-war international order destroyed. So a unified European military project would be a serious concern for him.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
The international right wing, historically, tends to be very chummy and on the same page until, quite suddenly, they aren't.
(Which happens whenever seeking their own advantage and appealing to their own base means it's convenient to go for the backstab. Sometimes this applies to more than one party at once, and one just happens to be the first to get the knife in.)
It's going to be entertaining to see the right-wing salt when the newly armed and operational Europe stops doing whatever the US wants
Alt-Right doesn't care about other countries and the establishment right is too cowardly to stand up to this, so if there's any salt there, it'll all be behind the scenes where we can't see it.
Oh hi there, it seems you're new to the concept of entitlement
I saw something over the last few days about a combined EU nuclear program. Is this connected to that or just a bunch of countries that now feel they want in on the MAD game?
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
It's the breakdown of the nuclear non-proliferation norm that is worrying more than any specific concern about Germany. And yes, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are definite could be nuclear powers whenever they want basically. There are probably some others. Italy would be if they hadn't closed their nuclear power plants.
Germany also closed all of their nuke plants, though, so there might be a lagtime for them in getting the fissile material, unlike Japan who literally produces weapons-grade fuel as the waste from their plants. They could have a massive arsenal very quickly if they wanted.
It's entirely possible they could get it relatively easily from other EU nations
Or from Japan. Like bum said, though, the main concern is the breakdown in nonproliferation. If Iran doesn't have a nuke within four years it'll be a miracle.
Japan might try to amend their self-defense clause to allow for nukes and mecha-godzilla deterents.
Well, a miracle or a hulking crater with millions dead. One of those.
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It isn't the weekend, so he can't talk to key advisers with knowledge of the Sea of Japan like the couple who ordered sushi at table #3.
It's not Russia, so assuming Trump sees it on one of his morning shows or something I could expect some heavy handed garbage spewed on twitter about it.
Of course, it could just as easily be something very anti Japanese as well. Like, "Japan can't even protect themselves, USA taking care of them and they take advantage of us in trade so much. SAD!"
Every other administration: "Don't respond, just contain, help our allies"
Trump: "Shoot their missiles out of the sky! Retaliate!"
I mean, yeah.. I know this is just keeping all options on the table, but starting a war with North Korea just seems like a really bad idea.
Literally! This guy's entire purpose is to stare across the room, fists clenched, like his NK counterpart on the other side of the table is eyeballin' his date in a bar.
(I assume that he actually has some other duties. But from what I've read of the DMZ, guards on the SK side are trained to stand there and look sorta-menacing for hours on end because that'll stave off a war.)
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Everything I learned about the DMZ, I learned from the Conan O'Brien Show: http://teamcoco.com/korea/conans-north-korea-show
They've sent anti-missile defense systems to South Korea, which has the added bonus of slightly heightening tensions in the region.
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Poland wants nuclear weapons for Europe
Germans are debating getting their own nuclear weapon
Fearing U.S. Withdrawal, Europe Considers Its Own Nuclear Deterrent
... France and the UK?
Addressed in the articles.
That idea was basically putting French nukes under an EU command structure to have a deterrent force against Russia if we don't back our European allies. Germans developing their own is different and worrying.
Well, yes.
But Trump said everybody should have nukes. So, chalk up another promise kept!
Is Germany not already in the "doesn't have nukes because they haven't felt like it" box though? Like, I'd imagine they only really need to put it together to have one more or less. Actually building them would be worrying though, since it would mean they no longer trusted NATO's threat of MAD to protect them.
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It's the breakdown of the nuclear non-proliferation norm that is worrying more than any specific concern about Germany. And yes, Germany, Japan, and South Korea are definite could be nuclear powers whenever they want basically. There are probably some others. Italy would be if they hadn't closed their nuclear power plants.
I think Canada is on that list as well. I doubt we'd ever bother though.
Germany also closed all of their nuke plants, though, so there might be a lagtime for them in getting the fissile material, unlike Japan who literally produces weapons-grade fuel as the waste from their plants. They could have a massive arsenal very quickly if they wanted.
Oil is not a goddamn step up.
No, everyone in the DMZ wears dark sunglasses regardless of weatherconditions, so that they can look menacing comfortably. Basically sleeping in class with googly-eyes.
It's entirely possible they could get it relatively easily from other EU nations
Or from Japan. Like bum said, though, the main concern is the breakdown in nonproliferation. If Iran doesn't have a nuke within four years it'll be a miracle.
Japan might try to amend their self-defense clause to allow for nukes and mecha-godzilla deterents.
Well, a miracle or a hulking crater with millions dead. One of those.
In the case of Canada, any nuclear strike would be nearly indistinguishable from one on the US until the last second (assuming they're not aiming at the glaciers, anyways).
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For a long time, Europeans have been interested in some common defence initiatives, but these have always been vetoed by the UK (partly at the behest of the US). The reason was that an EU army would undermine the purpose of NATO, and make the European nations less reliant on US protection.
I am angry beyond the ability to form rational sentences.
Alt-Right doesn't care about other countries and the establishment right is too cowardly to stand up to this, so if there's any salt there, it'll all be behind the scenes where we can't see it.
Bannon wants the entire post-war international order destroyed. So a unified European military project would be a serious concern for him.
(Which happens whenever seeking their own advantage and appealing to their own base means it's convenient to go for the backstab. Sometimes this applies to more than one party at once, and one just happens to be the first to get the knife in.)
Oh hi there, it seems you're new to the concept of entitlement
But probably not, because one of those two is a pro when it comes to thinking and waiting before talking.
cnbc.com/2017/03/13/merkel-flies-in-for-trump-meeting-flanked-by-german-ceos.html
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One is an experienced statesmen and the other is an irrational child that reacts to everything with emotional volatility and sheer pettiness.
Neville Chamberland Had a better chance of accomplishing things with Adolf Hitler then Merkel has with Trump.
The end of US hegemony and a more independent Europe may be a silver lining.