I noticed almost immediately that none of the machines outside the factory are really trying to fight you until you fight them.
I'm really curious to see where all this is going with YoRHa and people and the resistance and the machines.
My running theory, because of a broadcast mentioning only a few hundred thousand people on the moon, is that humans have been dead for a really long time and the androids are still fighting because of glitched out broadcasts that keep repeating themselves. There's no way after thousands of years that there's only a few hundred thousand people alive on the moon.
Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.
taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions
the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters
every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too
The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.
but he isn't though
the plan already failed
he's just being a selfish dickbag
It was temporarily halted by losing Grimoire Weiss. It wasn't truly dead-in-the-water until basically the end of the game.
Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.
taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions
the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters
every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too
The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.
but he isn't though
the plan already failed
he's just being a selfish dickbag
aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her
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Nier causes a whole lot of problems and inadvertently fucks up a lot of shit.
But from his point of view and with the limited knowledge he posses of the grander picture, everything he does is justified.
He really does not have another option available to him most of the time.
Yeah, I'm not pinning all the blame on him.
For example, Devola and Popola could have influenced things in a more positive direction if they had treated Nier as more than just a dumb guy they could manipulate.
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.
taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions
the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters
every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too
The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.
but he isn't though
the plan already failed
he's just being a selfish dickbag
aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her
shadowlord kidnapped a sentient being and crammed his daughter in her body, that is explicitly not the same thing as trying to find a cure
Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.
taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions
the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters
every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too
The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.
but he isn't though
the plan already failed
he's just being a selfish dickbag
aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her
shadowlord kidnapped a sentient being and crammed his daughter in her body, that is explicitly not the same thing as trying to find a cure
So you're saying that by the point in time the game shows, the only morally correct thing for humanity to do is let itself slowly go insane and die out as shades.
Basically self-inflicted xenocide.
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PiptheFairFrequently not in boats.Registered Userregular
Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.
taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions
the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters
every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too
The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.
but he isn't though
the plan already failed
he's just being a selfish dickbag
aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her
shadowlord kidnapped a sentient being and crammed his daughter in her body, that is explicitly not the same thing as trying to find a cure
So you're saying that by the point in time the game shows, the only morally correct thing for humanity to do is let itself slowly go insane and die out as shades.
Basically self-inflicted xenocide.
my ethical code prevents me from enslaving or subverting sentient beings
Remeber that the inspiration for Nier was 9/11. Dead serious.
taro wanted to explore the idea of how somebody could do something so completely monstrous while feeling justified in their actions
the big problem with that is that the shadowlord is a selfish piece of shit and shades with a small exception are mindless monsters
every sentient shade attacks the party on sight without question based solely on circumstance too
The Shadowlord is just trying to enact the plan to save humanity as it's supposed to go. It's not his fault the Gestalts developed sentience for some reason.
but he isn't though
the plan already failed
he's just being a selfish dickbag
aren't they both purely motivated by wanting to save their Yonahs, they have identical motivations, just one for the replicant version and one for the gestalt version of her
shadowlord kidnapped a sentient being and crammed his daughter in her body, that is explicitly not the same thing as trying to find a cure
I mean he was completely desperate so he was making evil choices, but I think that was just because he knew there was no other way that his Yonah would survive, no magic flower that would stop her obliteration. If replicant Nier's choices were boiled down to a clear 'kill someone else's daughter, or let Yonah die,' would he make the same choice as the shadowlord, or would he make the opposite choice? I think he might well choose to kill if he were put into the same situation as the shadowlord was.
note this does not preclude the shadowlord being a selfish dickbag, I just think Nier is just as capable of making those evil choices, the only thing that's different between them is their circumstances.
Also, like, the piss joke is probably the only piss joke I've ever liked?
It plays into the idea that Mikhail is basically a dog that can talk, and Zero treats him as such. So he does what dogs do and just goes wherever. And Zero reacts with an extremely relatable, "Really? You're gonna do this NOW?"
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Also, like, the piss joke is probably the only piss joke I've ever liked?
It plays into the idea that Mikhail is basically a dog that can talk, and Zero treats him as such. So he does what dogs do and just goes wherever. And Zero reacts with an extremely relatable, "Really? You're gonna do this NOW?"
Waypoint radio spoiled ending U today so I had to do that just to see it.
That was the first ending I got and it was completely by accident. "Huh, that sounds like an interesting mechanic. Lemme give that a whirl and... oh. Huh."
Seriously what is up with cooking mechanics in JRPGs though
the common (and perhaps accurate) perception is that otaku can't cook so they provide the ability to have that satisfaction without actually doing anything
it's like blue apron except slightly less hoity toity
Seriously what is up with cooking mechanics in JRPGs though
the common (and perhaps accurate) perception is that otaku can't cook so they provide the ability to have that satisfaction without actually doing anything
it's like blue apron except slightly less hoity toity
Oh man, that's actually pretty plausible, sadly
also lately I've been finding myself far more interested in JRPGs than WRPGs, and I dunno what's up with that
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I'm really curious to see where all this is going with YoRHa and people and the resistance and the machines.
My running theory, because of a broadcast mentioning only a few hundred thousand people on the moon, is that humans have been dead for a really long time and the androids are still fighting because of glitched out broadcasts that keep repeating themselves. There's no way after thousands of years that there's only a few hundred thousand people alive on the moon.
Note I'm only in the first path right now.
It was temporarily halted by losing Grimoire Weiss. It wasn't truly dead-in-the-water until basically the end of the game.
I kind of wonder if Automata is going to do anything interesting with 2B's design like Nier (apparently?) tried to do with Kaine's
But from his point of view and with the limited knowledge he posses of the grander picture, everything he does is justified.
He really does not have another option available to him most of the time.
he is the exact definition of the tragic hero as defined by antiquity
EDIT: his tragic flaw is ironically his stoicism
Yeah, I'm not pinning all the blame on him.
For example, Devola and Popola could have influenced things in a more positive direction if they had treated Nier as more than just a dumb guy they could manipulate.
Its Beepy!
He kinda ascended to godhood in a side book it turns out?
sure of course why not
Basically self-inflicted xenocide.
note this does not preclude the shadowlord being a selfish dickbag, I just think Nier is just as capable of making those evil choices, the only thing that's different between them is their circumstances.
yeah the creepy old guy following the emotionless girl around while constantly talking about how much he wanted to fuck her was quality scripting
and then you get piss jokes on top of it
the whole game is completely repulsive
Specifically because the girl he serves wants him to fuck that much.
The women hold all the power in Drak3.
seriously huge
A point is made of this
It plays into the idea that Mikhail is basically a dog that can talk, and Zero treats him as such. So he does what dogs do and just goes wherever. And Zero reacts with an extremely relatable, "Really? You're gonna do this NOW?"
He is also a child
Actually it's "I surrender"
For a minute there, I thought this was a crosspost from a Trump thread.
THERE IS BEAUTY IN THIS WORLD
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I love that both the winner and runner up for Anime Is For Jurps' JRPG of the generation are getting sequels
Square you have forever burned me.
we're finally being rewarded
That was the first ending I got and it was completely by accident. "Huh, that sounds like an interesting mechanic. Lemme give that a whirl and... oh. Huh."
I actually feel quite proud of that.
Steam ID XBL: JohnnyChopsocky PSN:Stud_Beefpile WiiU:JohnnyChopsocky
I would be totally cool with this
It's no FFX-3, but I'll fuckin' take it
OH SHIT.
Holy fuck yes please new Radiant Historia oh my god that's all i've ever wanted.
Please not switch only, please for the love of god not switch only.
vita only
the common (and perhaps accurate) perception is that otaku can't cook so they provide the ability to have that satisfaction without actually doing anything
it's like blue apron except slightly less hoity toity
Oh man, that's actually pretty plausible, sadly
also lately I've been finding myself far more interested in JRPGs than WRPGs, and I dunno what's up with that
// Switch: SW-5306-0651-6424 //
Fine with me, I actually own one of those.