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Untitled [Weeaboo] Thread: All according to plan.

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  • JaninJanin Registered User
    edited November 2008
    What so wrong about hating to see boobs constantly and think they're disgusting and distracting.

    Perhaps penises would be more your style

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous WALK 3X FASTER New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    What so wrong about hating to see boobs constantly and think they're disgusting and distracting.

    Perhaps penises would be more your style
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  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    What so wrong about hating to see boobs constantly and think they're disgusting and distracting.

    Perhaps penises would be more your style
    digimans
    God, you guys are acting incredibly childish. I just hate fanservice.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Joule wrote: »
    So is the fanservice being discussed here just sexual fanservice? I wouldn't say fanservice is inherently bad, it depends on how it's being done.

    Anyhow, Seto No Hanayome OVA is chocked full of awesome. Can't wait for the next episode. Season 2 fund it.
    Some people just find sex gross. and that it has no place in Mecha and they can just put it in the lol popular mainstream fight anime and be done with it.

    This explains so much about you Shrimpy
    What so wrong about hating to see boobs constantly and think they're disgusting and distracting.

    Ah, so you're into lolicon.

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  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Joule wrote: »
    So is the fanservice being discussed here just sexual fanservice? I wouldn't say fanservice is inherently bad, it depends on how it's being done.

    Anyhow, Seto No Hanayome OVA is chocked full of awesome. Can't wait for the next episode. Season 2 fund it.
    Some people just find sex gross. and that it has no place in Mecha and they can just put it in the lol popular mainstream fight anime and be done with it.

    This explains so much about you Shrimpy
    What so wrong about hating to see boobs constantly and think they're disgusting and distracting.

    Ah, so you're into lolicon.
    No, I'm not into ANYTHING sexual related. just give me my Monster of the Week and my giant robot fight and that's it!

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd take Strike Witches over Tim and Eric.

    Hilariously wrong anime is better than a show trying to piss people off.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Janin wrote: »
    What so wrong about hating to see boobs constantly and think they're disgusting and distracting.

    Perhaps penises would be more your style
    digimans
    God, you guys are acting incredibly childish. I just hate fanservice.

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  • Bad KittyBad Kitty Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Is there any actual feminist manga/anime?

    Yaoi doesn't count.

    A lot of Josei work has been trending more and more feminist. Kimi wa Pet and Hataraki-man both deal with the conflicting expectations of working professional women. Kimi was Pet has a drama, Hataraki-man has both a drama and anime (not very good). Erika Sakurazawa's entire work mostly features young professional women and the shitty heterosexual relationships they trap themselves with.

    Yuri work generally splits into school girl fluff and stuff that are more josei and "feminist", with seminal works like Maria-sama ga Miteru straddling the two. Yamaji Ebine is probably my favourite "mature yuri" author, and her work reflects a more bohemian free-love lifestyle. The best of school girl fluff is written by Takako Shimamura, who has a sensitivity to gender issues but presents it in an adorable slice-of-life manner, especially in Hourou Musuko (Gender Dysphoria) and Aoi Hana (well done school girl yuri). Anime works like Shoujo Kakumei Utena and Simoun aren't yuri per se, but do provide an interesting look at gender dynamics.

    Regardless Japan is still rather regressive in this area. I find popular female author Yu Watase's works to be terribly insulting and infantilizing. It's also the reason why I am automatically weary of any VN based anime. A lot of yuri work are also very anti-femist, or at least are shallow to the point of ridicule: I hold special disdain for Strawberry Panic and Kannazuki no Miko for being mind-numbingly stupid but especially popular. Yes I am kind of an elitist.

  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I like how CS implies he's talking only about in TV shows, yet everything he says reads flat out that he hates boobs in general.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    man, i totally missed that it's cowboy bebop's tenth anniversary!
    i actually just got done watching the second to last episode, been making my way through the series again all last and this week.
    still an amazing series, and some old episodes i hated now have new life :D
    tempted to do a thread on it now, actually...

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  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The hot springs episode in Fumoffu! shows that there is a place for hot springs episodes in mecha.

  • ErgandarErgandar Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Well, using shrimpy's logic in most of his discussions:

    1. Leonardo da Vinci was rumored to be asexual

    2. Shrimpy expresses no interest in sex

    3. Therefore, Shrimpy is as intelligent as Leonardo da Vinci

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  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Kelor wrote: »
    The hot springs episode in Fumoffu! shows that there is a place for hot springs episodes in mecha.
    No, because Full Metal Panic! is probably what stated this whole mess and is why shit like Code Geass got popular and the EPIC got forgotten:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uODpVhtH824

  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
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  • SlicerSlicer Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Kelor wrote: »
    The hot springs episode in Fumoffu! shows that there is a place for hot springs episodes in mecha.

    I need to rewatch Fumoffu sometime, though I'm not sure if I ever finished it (I can't remember). Damn good though.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Slicer wrote: »
    Kelor wrote: »
    The hot springs episode in Fumoffu! shows that there is a place for hot springs episodes in mecha.

    I need to rewatch Fumoffu sometime, though I'm not sure if I ever finished it (I can't remember). Damn good though.

    The football episode was the best one.

  • redxredx Bow Down! Before the power of Santa!Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    wow, 10 years. I should go and pay money for it. I'm deeply fond of pretty much every single episode, except the monkey virus episode and the one with coboy andy.

    It's kinda weird, I fell in love with the show when I first the mad peroit, because it's got kick ass action. Now it's probably something like Hard Luck Woman

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  • setrajonassetrajonas Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The very first episode I saw was on Adult Swim, the Feng Shui one. I don't even remember how long ago it was, must have been middle school or something. I loved it and promptly tracked down the rest.

  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.

  • OtakuD00DOtakuD00D Too stupid to feel pain. San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.
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    You're.... kidding. The entire movie pandered to Ruri fans. It was pure Ruri fanservice. It didn't have your typical signs of fanservice, but... The entire movie, and most of the promotional material related to it, whored her out so much it was unbelievable. It also completely did away with what made Nadesico so fun in the first place. Parody.

    Fuck. My brain hurts every time I read your posts. This is the second time I'm making it a point to just ignore them.

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  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Is there any actual feminist manga/anime?

    Yaoi doesn't count.

    Seirei no Moribito, which I think is called Moribito in the US, has no fanservice, and is a mature story about a female bodyguard. Her semi-partner is a herbalist, who copes well with her physically outclassing him in every way (their relationship isn't resolved in the anime, as an adaptation of part of a series of books).

    But that is a shining beacon of grown-up in a sea of crap.

    A lot of Ghibli stuff is fairly mature (family-oriented stuff, which to me is more mature than some shonen crap full of panty-shots). Gankutsuou and Mononoke are intelligent. There is plenty of manga which isn't about SF or fantasy at all - stuff like 'Darling wa Gaikokujin' or 'Sazae-san'.

    The one thing I would say is people should realise that this pedophilic undercurrent in Japanese male sexuality is something that many people are aware of and fighting against within Japan. One of the biggest mistakes people make is to take the shitty aspects of a country and assume everyone in the country is OK with it - like the British class system or US militarism.

    I had a great epiphany once I understood Japanese enough to enjoy stand-up comedy - loads of the Japanese comedians were complaining and laughing at the same things foreigners did! They didn't think pedophilia, overwork, sexism etc etc were all groovy and Japanese!

    Basically, Japanese comedians and many Japanese people go 'Oh Japan' plenty.

    I figure I could take a bear.
  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    @BadKitty - Yuri is either porn or romantic fiction, right? Why are you surprised it's so shallow? If you look at western porn or romance (e.g. Barbara Cartland) there's no reason to expect yuri or yaoi to have any depth.

    I figure I could take a bear.
  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.
    ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................

    You're.... kidding. The entire movie pandered to Ruri fans. It was pure Ruri fanservice. It didn't have your typical signs of fanservice, but... The entire movie, and most of the promotional material related to it, whored her out so much it was unbelievable. It also completely did away with what made Nadesico so fun in the first place. Parody.

    Fuck. My brain hurts every time I read your posts. This is the second time I'm making it a point to just ignore them.
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  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Isn't there a manga of Haken no Hinkaku? That was a pretty clearly feminist drama that was on TV last year.

    I figure I could take a bear.
  • JesuitsJesuits Registered User
    edited November 2008
    Clawshrimpy deserves at least a jailing for all the shit he's been doing since forever.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.
    ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................

    You're.... kidding. The entire movie pandered to Ruri fans. It was pure Ruri fanservice. It didn't have your typical signs of fanservice, but... The entire movie, and most of the promotional material related to it, whored her out so much it was unbelievable. It also completely did away with what made Nadesico so fun in the first place. Parody.

    Fuck. My brain hurts every time I read your posts. This is the second time I'm making it a point to just ignore them.
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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jesuits wrote: »
    Clawshrimpy deserves at least a jailing for all the shit he's been doing since forever.

    Well, we don't jail for stupid. And to be fair, he's been on topic.

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  • PikaPuffPikaPuff Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jesuits wrote: »
    Clawshrimpy deserves at least a jailing for all the shit he's been doing since forever.

    Well, we don't jail for stupid. And to be fair, he's been on topic.
    I was sure there's some rule in Glossolalia about constantly staying near the line without crossing it is enough to get jailed/banned, but I can't find my reference.

    Anyways, good thing there's no more Glossolalia anime thread anymore, or he'd have been reamed. Same for myself I suppose.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Jesuits wrote: »
    Clawshrimpy deserves at least a jailing for all the shit he's been doing since forever.

    Well, we don't jail for stupid. And to be fair, he's been on topic.

    And does anyone really want to have to explain to Jeffe or Elki exactly what he's doing wrong? He doesn't like the boobies isn't a very compelling argument. He's not actively trolling, he just has a very narrow point of view which he has no interest in enlarging.

  • JaninJanin Registered User
    edited November 2008
    PikaPuff wrote: »
    I was sure there's some rule in Glossolalia about constantly staying near the line without crossing it is enough to get jailed/banned, but I can't find my reference.

    Anyways, good thing there's no more Glossolalia anime thread anymore, or he'd have been reamed. Same for myself I suppose.

    Even SE++ mods don't jail people for 'spergin all over a thread

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  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.
    ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................

    You're.... kidding. The entire movie pandered to Ruri fans. It was pure Ruri fanservice. It didn't have your typical signs of fanservice, but... The entire movie, and most of the promotional material related to it, whored her out so much it was unbelievable. It also completely did away with what made Nadesico so fun in the first place. Parody.

    Fuck. My brain hurts every time I read your posts. This is the second time I'm making it a point to just ignore them.
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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.
    ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................

    You're.... kidding. The entire movie pandered to Ruri fans. It was pure Ruri fanservice. It didn't have your typical signs of fanservice, but... The entire movie, and most of the promotional material related to it, whored her out so much it was unbelievable. It also completely did away with what made Nadesico so fun in the first place. Parody.

    Fuck. My brain hurts every time I read your posts. This is the second time I'm making it a point to just ignore them.
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  • Bad KittyBad Kitty Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    poshniallo wrote: »
    @BadKitty - Yuri is either porn or romantic fiction, right? Why are you surprised it's so shallow? If you look at western porn or romance (e.g. Barbara Cartland) there's no reason to expect yuri or yaoi to have any depth.

    I don't subscribe to the distinction between "yuri" = sex and "shoujo ai" = no sex. It's largely a fan created distinction. "Yuri" to me are simply stories from a Japanese cultural perspective that focus in whole or in part on lesbian relationships. I'm hesitant to call any gay-oriented fiction a genre, and yuri can't be wholly contained to target demographic audience. It's very broad and can encompass something as utterly insipid as Strawberry Panic to a great work like Yamaji Ebine's Free Soul.

    It's not so much I'm suprised at the popularity of shallow shows, than I am disappointed by the ready acceptance to treat them as good shows. And the reason why I'm expecting more from yuri is that the concepts of sex, sexuality, and identity are rather intertwined. It's much easier to explore those themes in works in "deviant" relationships, but within anime it's more often relegated to "oh ho, lesbians". It's popular not because it focuses on the relationship in any meaningful way but because of the lesbian tease. Certain works like MakaMaka or Shoujo Sect really are nothing but lesbian sex, and I don't have a problem with that. In fact the angst-free stress-relieving sex romps in MakaMaka between the two leads results in probably one of the healthier relationships I've seen in manga.

    In the case of Kodomo no Jikan, whatever introspection the work actually has on pedophilia is loudly and painfully drowned out by Loli Hot For Teacher. If KnJ aspired to be anything more than creepy fanwank then it didn't do a very good job of it.

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Wait a second

    Are we talkin' about lesbians here?

    Because it's about time

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  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.
    ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................

    You're.... kidding. The entire movie pandered to Ruri fans. It was pure Ruri fanservice. It didn't have your typical signs of fanservice, but... The entire movie, and most of the promotional material related to it, whored her out so much it was unbelievable. It also completely did away with what made Nadesico so fun in the first place. Parody.

    Fuck. My brain hurts every time I read your posts. This is the second time I'm making it a point to just ignore them.
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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.
    ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................

    You're.... kidding. The entire movie pandered to Ruri fans. It was pure Ruri fanservice. It didn't have your typical signs of fanservice, but... The entire movie, and most of the promotional material related to it, whored her out so much it was unbelievable. It also completely did away with what made Nadesico so fun in the first place. Parody.

    Fuck. My brain hurts every time I read your posts. This is the second time I'm making it a point to just ignore them.
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  • Bad KittyBad Kitty Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Guys, don't be so hard on CS. I find his aversion to sex and insistence on the purity of mecha anime to be childish and immature, but Angel is right in that he's technically contributing to the discussion. Since I'm not interested in whatever mecha show CS is talking about, he's boring to me except when he gets you all to react. I don't think it's trolling since he seems to be earnest.

    I have to admit, though, I enjoyed Ketchum_Ash's complete and utter delusions so much more.

  • kdrudykdrudy Registered User
    edited November 2008
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.
    ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................

    You're.... kidding. The entire movie pandered to Ruri fans. It was pure Ruri fanservice. It didn't have your typical signs of fanservice, but... The entire movie, and most of the promotional material related to it, whored her out so much it was unbelievable. It also completely did away with what made Nadesico so fun in the first place. Parody.

    Fuck. My brain hurts every time I read your posts. This is the second time I'm making it a point to just ignore them.
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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    kdrudy wrote: »
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    Thank you.

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  • ClawshrimpyClawshrimpy Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    kdrudy wrote: »
    OtakuD00D wrote: »
    And to top off my argueent about Fanservice and Mecha:

    THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS was better than the Nadesico TV series. because they cut out the fanservice for more awesome and I approve of that. the Black Selena is one of the best Nadesico designs, too.
    ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................ ........................................................................................................................................................

    You're.... kidding. The entire movie pandered to Ruri fans. It was pure Ruri fanservice. It didn't have your typical signs of fanservice, but... The entire movie, and most of the promotional material related to it, whored her out so much it was unbelievable. It also completely did away with what made Nadesico so fun in the first place. Parody.

    Fuck. My brain hurts every time I read your posts. This is the second time I'm making it a point to just ignore them.
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