Things aren't "purchased" per se. Money is abstracted down into a "resources" score, which is one of your Backgrounds. You can generally be assumed to have most anything your Resources score can reasonably justify, assuming you have a way to get it.
IE, just because you have five million dollars in your bank account doesn't necessarily mean you know the right people to get ahold of a Trinary mainframe with proprietary anti-hack software that obliterates the processor of anyone who tries to get into your system after downloading everything they have to your computer.
You get it back, at least? Sucks to lose control of something like that.
The situation I've kept purposefully vague, since I don't want to drop any hints concerning your characters' first mission. For the most part, be discreet in how your character would normally be when he goes around town, but perhaps a little more prepared because now you're in a coterie to fight the Sabbat.
It's really just so I know what you all have available so we don't get confused and say 'well, I would have had this ... '
Just give me an initiative roll and you'll be good and ready.
On purchasing items, you don't need to really purchase it, just give me a list of things your character would have. Some items I'll question, especially if you don't have any dots in Streetwise or any fence/arms contacts, but for the most part I realize anyone competent enough can go out and find weapons.
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INeedNoSaltwith blood on my teethRegistered Userregular
edited January 2010
I hope the first scene is the police pulling you over on reports of a bunch of illegal firearms being carried by people wearing sunglasses (at night.)
It's likely that the sum total of your worth is significantly more than one month's disposable income.
It's equally likely that unless you're some sort of psychotic ex military mercenary sociopath NRA-Equals-Porn nutjob, an appreciable majority of that disposable income should not go to illegal weaponry.
Especially since such weaponry is what you might call ineffective versus vampires, typically. Sure, a shotgun blast to the head does nasty things even to a vampire with decent Fortitude, but there are always other options.
Especially since more commonly applicable and less legally complicating objects like flashlights, cellular telephones, "spy shop gear", and even simple things like a hundred dollars in your pocket to take someone out to a very nice dinner to pump them for information are all valid uses of Resources too.
Additionally, Salt makes a very good point. Social rolls are not magic unless you back them up with Disciplines. You can lie very convincingly all you want, an obvious weapon is an obvious weapon. You'll have to do better than "Oh no we totally don't have guns". Unless you're using Dominate for the Jedi Mind Trick type thing, that is.
Also, I have to question why in goodness name you're rolling d8s... But I'm hoping that was a typo.
All of that said, carrying a piece isn't at all impossible.
Getting a legal license to carry concealed firearms isn't that hard either as long as you're willing to owe a favor to whoever can expedite such paperwork in your favor. Most people think that owning the cops is all about sending SWAT teams to people's haven and putting pressure on people and whatnot. They tend to forget that you can get records from almost anywhere in the city and that you can do just as much to make your life easier as you can to make someone else's harder.
Getting a concealed weapons permit is to vampires what "fixing a ticket" is to Uncle Lenny who's known Officer Bob for thirty years, in a way.
Getting a concealed weapons permit is to vampires what "fixing a ticket" is to Uncle Lenny who's known Officer Bob for thirty years, in a way.
Getting a CCP isn't all that difficult regardless, assuming this isn't Wisconsin, Illinois, or DC.
Granted, I don't know how many gun stores / shows (for the legal purchase of firearms) and CCP classes are offered at night...
Well, there are also issues about not necessarily having a legal identity. Maintaining the Masquerade can be remarkably difficult when you're "in the system" so to speak. After all, if you're still using your legal birth certificate, eventually someone's going to want to know why a seventy year old man still looks twenty.
Not to mention dealing with the IRS can be hell at that point.
Getting issued a legal permit for anything can be hard when you're legally "dead". Of course, again, having a fake legal identity set up is a relatively simple matter if you're willing to owe some favors.
And circumventing the legal system entirely is also a possibility. Usually that means owing favors to a whole different set of people.
Mind you, it's in everyone's best interests to keep vampires out of jail. That whole "bursting into flames" thing can be a serious issue for the Masquerade. But if you end up there, while someone might go to the trouble of springing you, don't expect anyone to consider it anyone's fault but yours that the Masquerade almost went up in smoke with you.
Ditto for murdering policemen. The authorities tend to be very serious about investigating attacks on their own, and putting those investigations down is not easy. It also usually requires a frame job. Which means work for someone, which means best case scenario you owe them big, and worst case scenario you make an enemy out of them.
Cynic, you just described every Vampire ever who wanted to look inconspicuous on the street, especially Obfuscate Kindred.
Salt: It really depends. In a city like this, a bunch of guys in a truck aren't really a suspicious sight. As long as they're not waving things around like a bunch of nutjobs.
Krata's also got valid points. A lot of what you can access is dependent upon your different stats (Streetwise, Contacts, Allies) as much as how much you can spend. This is a city where getting a concealed weapons permit is certainly possible, if you exist in the system and aren't supposedly an elderly person. Even at night. Especially at night, considering the Kindred exist in the city.
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Getting a legal license to carry concealed firearms isn't that hard either as long as you're willing to owe a favor to whoever can expedite such paperwork in your favor. Most people think that owning the cops is all about sending SWAT teams to people's haven and putting pressure on people and whatnot. They tend to forget that you can get records from almost anywhere in the city and that you can do just as much to make your life easier as you can to make someone else's harder.
getting a concealed carry license is a lot harder if you're in one of the plenty of states where they don't really exist for private citizens
especially a 'concealed submachine gun' carry license
"I see you are applying for concealed submachine gun permit, Mr. Jensen...Can you care to elaborate what you would do with said license?"
"Well lets say I go driving out in the country.."
"Uh Huh"
"And my tires get punctured by a horde of super intelligent scorpions. They take me to their leader and plan to sacrifice me to their evil god. Well there you go.."
ok.....
anyway
I kinda wanted 2 magnums (so heavy revolvers ) on my persons. And a bowie knife or else a swiss army knife if the later would be more funny. Considering an anachronistic character having something with a potential laser light, and being endless fascinated with it - much to the confusion of modern kindred
The IC thread is up. Start posting when you're ready.
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Saint JusticeMercenaryMah-vel Baybee!!!Registered Userregular
edited February 2010
Nice intro, Drake. Perhaps we should change this title to OOC or create a new thread for OOC? And how do we know who's in the back of our truck? Is it determined by our initiative order? How many of us fit in the cab? Driver and one passenger?
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Nice intro, Drake. Perhaps we should change this title to OOC or create a new thread for OOC? And how do we know who's in the back of our truck? Is it determined by our initiative order? How many of us fit in the cab? Driver and one passenger?
Whups, I forgot to designate who was where. I'll go edit the post to show that. We can keep using this thread, I'll edit the title.
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IE, just because you have five million dollars in your bank account doesn't necessarily mean you know the right people to get ahold of a Trinary mainframe with proprietary anti-hack software that obliterates the processor of anyone who tries to get into your system after downloading everything they have to your computer.
For example.
The situation I've kept purposefully vague, since I don't want to drop any hints concerning your characters' first mission. For the most part, be discreet in how your character would normally be when he goes around town, but perhaps a little more prepared because now you're in a coterie to fight the Sabbat.
It's really just so I know what you all have available so we don't get confused and say 'well, I would have had this ... '
Just give me an initiative roll and you'll be good and ready.
On purchasing items, you don't need to really purchase it, just give me a list of things your character would have. Some items I'll question, especially if you don't have any dots in Streetwise or any fence/arms contacts, but for the most part I realize anyone competent enough can go out and find weapons.
It's equally likely that unless you're some sort of psychotic ex military mercenary sociopath NRA-Equals-Porn nutjob, an appreciable majority of that disposable income should not go to illegal weaponry.
Especially since such weaponry is what you might call ineffective versus vampires, typically. Sure, a shotgun blast to the head does nasty things even to a vampire with decent Fortitude, but there are always other options.
Especially since more commonly applicable and less legally complicating objects like flashlights, cellular telephones, "spy shop gear", and even simple things like a hundred dollars in your pocket to take someone out to a very nice dinner to pump them for information are all valid uses of Resources too.
Additionally, Salt makes a very good point. Social rolls are not magic unless you back them up with Disciplines. You can lie very convincingly all you want, an obvious weapon is an obvious weapon. You'll have to do better than "Oh no we totally don't have guns". Unless you're using Dominate for the Jedi Mind Trick type thing, that is.
Also, I have to question why in goodness name you're rolling d8s... But I'm hoping that was a typo.
All of that said, carrying a piece isn't at all impossible.
Getting a legal license to carry concealed firearms isn't that hard either as long as you're willing to owe a favor to whoever can expedite such paperwork in your favor. Most people think that owning the cops is all about sending SWAT teams to people's haven and putting pressure on people and whatnot. They tend to forget that you can get records from almost anywhere in the city and that you can do just as much to make your life easier as you can to make someone else's harder.
Getting a concealed weapons permit is to vampires what "fixing a ticket" is to Uncle Lenny who's known Officer Bob for thirty years, in a way.
Supernatural powers, not surprisingly, go a long, long way to easing mundane issues when properly used.
Well, there are also issues about not necessarily having a legal identity. Maintaining the Masquerade can be remarkably difficult when you're "in the system" so to speak. After all, if you're still using your legal birth certificate, eventually someone's going to want to know why a seventy year old man still looks twenty.
Not to mention dealing with the IRS can be hell at that point.
Getting issued a legal permit for anything can be hard when you're legally "dead". Of course, again, having a fake legal identity set up is a relatively simple matter if you're willing to owe some favors.
And circumventing the legal system entirely is also a possibility. Usually that means owing favors to a whole different set of people.
Mind you, it's in everyone's best interests to keep vampires out of jail. That whole "bursting into flames" thing can be a serious issue for the Masquerade. But if you end up there, while someone might go to the trouble of springing you, don't expect anyone to consider it anyone's fault but yours that the Masquerade almost went up in smoke with you.
Ditto for murdering policemen. The authorities tend to be very serious about investigating attacks on their own, and putting those investigations down is not easy. It also usually requires a frame job. Which means work for someone, which means best case scenario you owe them big, and worst case scenario you make an enemy out of them.
Salt: It really depends. In a city like this, a bunch of guys in a truck aren't really a suspicious sight. As long as they're not waving things around like a bunch of nutjobs.
Krata's also got valid points. A lot of what you can access is dependent upon your different stats (Streetwise, Contacts, Allies) as much as how much you can spend. This is a city where getting a concealed weapons permit is certainly possible, if you exist in the system and aren't supposedly an elderly person. Even at night. Especially at night, considering the Kindred exist in the city.
getting a concealed carry license is a lot harder if you're in one of the plenty of states where they don't really exist for private citizens
especially a 'concealed submachine gun' carry license
"Well lets say I go driving out in the country.."
"Uh Huh"
"And my tires get punctured by a horde of super intelligent scorpions. They take me to their leader and plan to sacrifice me to their evil god. Well there you go.."
ok.....
anyway
I kinda wanted 2 magnums (so heavy revolvers ) on my persons. And a bowie knife or else a swiss army knife if the later would be more funny. Considering an anachronistic character having something with a potential laser light, and being endless fascinated with it - much to the confusion of modern kindred
"My sawed off shotgun."
"And that hilt sticking out behind your neck?"
"That'd be my broadsword. But I have concealed carry licenses for both of them, don't you worry."
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My weapons on me include a Colt 1911A1 (Heavy Pistol) and a Combat Knife (Knife). I don't have any disciplines active at the moment.
Whups, I forgot to designate who was where. I'll go edit the post to show that. We can keep using this thread, I'll edit the title.